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Campaign Update with Save the Boundary Waters Team - Shared screen with speaker view
Paul Hill
19:26
Hi Tom, Happy New Year to you. I’m currently living in Colorado enjoying my newborn granddaughter and the skiing.
Tom Landwehr
22:05
Hey, Paul, good to hear from you! Hope everyone is safe and having fun. Maybe keep the newborn off the skis for a bit, tho!
Tom Landwehr
22:37
Thanks for joining, Paul! Good to hear from you.
Paul Hill
23:30
What a difference an election makes huh?
Tom Landwehr
24:03
It is a whole new game; a much brighter future ahead of us. Feels like the night has ended…
Mary Fernstrum
24:23
I am not able this hear
Paul Hill
24:32
Yup. I feel like I’m breathing again for the first time in four years.
Michael S
24:58
Can't Biden just undo Trump's Executive Order, like he has already done for several other of Trump's E.O.'s ?
Tom Landwehr
25:26
Yes, he has done that on many EOs already.
Michael S
26:12
Why not the one relating to BWCA then?
Nate Clark
26:32
so dose this means that we can camp 🏕 up in bwca and enjoy wildlife
Matt Norton
26:47
Michael S.: Many of the environmental attacks during the last administration were carried out by the Trump Admin.’s executive branch agencies, not through Executive Orders.
Michael S
27:37
What does she mean by "climate velocity centrality"
Tom Landwehr
28:39
Trump didn’t do an EO on the BWCA; his administration reversed mineral leases.
Matt Norton
28:53
Michael S.: that means the speed with which climate change is changing habitats, and the speed with which plants and wildlife living there now will have to migrate to survive.
Kate Paul
29:01
What about Canada right across the border. IF we ban mining in MN, but Canada continues to mine in the same watershed, how is that fair?
Tom Landwehr
29:25
Nate: the mine will degrade water quality in the BWCA
Tom Landwehr
29:59
Kate: Canada’s mining is happening much further west, outside the watershed of the BWCA.
Nate Clark
30:26
Tom- so the mining won’t happen.
Matt Norton
30:35
Kate P.: Two points in response. 1. The inability of the U.S. to control everything does not mean we should not control what we can. 2. In the history of protecting the Quetico-Superior, often one country has moved first to provide a protection, and the other country has followed.
Michael S
31:06
Mining invariable is disastrous to water quality!
Tom Landwehr
31:07
Nate: Trump opened the possibility, but we are using all these tools to try to kill the project
Tom Landwehr
31:22
Mark:
Tom Landwehr
32:05
Mark: climate change is only one of the issues that relates to land conservation and protection of the BWCA. The Biden administration’s actions that will prevent mining happen to fall under his climate change EO
Tom Landwehr
32:28
Kate: Agreed!
Rikki Jean Jensen
33:01
All? Including iron mining?
Kate Paul
33:11
Minnesota has some of the worlds largest deposits of Copper and Nickel. We are looking at ramping up production of EVs, solar, & wind in the US. Other countries don't have the same stringent protections for miners & for the environment, but if we don't mine it in the US, it will have to mined elsewhere. Can you justify this?
Tom Landwehr
33:18
Rikki: No, not iron mining, gravel or granite
Rikki Jean Jensen
33:27
got it
Tom Landwehr
34:13
Kate: Yes, copper is abundant across the globe and there is no shortage. Just because the minerals are found in a place doesn’t mean that is where we should mine. Grand Canyon is a good example, BW as well.
Rikki Jean Jensen
34:41
what’s that legislation again?
Tom Landwehr
35:28
Mark: thanks, regrettably, it is these deeply bureaucratic actions that we must take and which will ultimately be the only successful path for us. Don’t take the jargon to doubt our determination!
Nate Clark
36:05
so if they fill out the application process would that protect us from mining
Tom Landwehr
36:25
Rikki: legislation in Congress (Rep. McCollum’s BW Protection and Pollution Prevention Act) and the Boundary Waters Permanent Protection bill to be soon introduced in MN legislature.
Rikki Jean Jensen
36:54
I meant the one passed in the 70s that he mentioned
Tom Landwehr
37:06
Note: If the application is filed, it puts a temporary moratorium on mining that gives us the time to pass the permanent protection bills.
Tom Landwehr
37:20
Mark: Endurance!
Nate Clark
37:56
thank you
Kate Paul
37:56
IT's more than Cu & Ni; MN has Colbalt & Palladium. Other places in the world may have these minerals, but then we become dependent on them. Our national security depends on these minerals.
Tom Landwehr
38:03
Rikki: I missed that one, probably the 1974 Wilderness Act.
Rikki Jean Jensen
38:45
wilderness act was passed in the 60s 😉
Deborah Huskins
38:45
Will you alert us to public comment periods?
Rikki Jean Jensen
39:06
he mentioned one about federal lands management.
Tom Landwehr
39:08
Kate: Twin Metals is owned by Chilean Antofagasta. All the ore they mine will be shipped out of the US. It doesn’t reduce our dependency on other countries one bit.
Tom Landwehr
39:30
BWCA was declared wilderness in 1974
Timothy Nelson
39:35
Are there any indications the Forest Service will make the application?
Tom Landwehr
39:44
Yes, absolutely.
Tom Landwehr
40:09
Probably FLPMA - Federal Lands Protection and Management Act
Rikki Jean Jensen
40:21
yes! that’s it!
Tom Landwehr
40:21
Yes, we are working on them.
William Welke
40:33
Can a 20-year withdrawal be overturned by a subsequent secretary of the interior if Congress does not make it permanent? Does the existing rights limitation apply to current mining proposals?
Rikki Jean Jensen
40:47
And yes. But The Wilderness Act was passed in 1964.
Tom Landwehr
40:47
My bad; Lauren caught me!
Kate Paul
41:05
All? Would you mind giving sources please?
Tom Landwehr
41:12
Yes, which is why we have to get the legislation
William Welke
41:25
Thanks
Tom Landwehr
41:46
Twin Metals Mine Plan of Operations and Antofagasta’s 2019 Annual Report.
William Welke
42:07
Do Minnesota’s senators support the McCollum bill?
Tom Landwehr
42:29
We are working to get them to support
Dana Boyle
42:48
Does permanent protection cover all forms of mining adjacent to the BWCA?
Tom Landwehr
43:12
No, iron mining, gravel mining and granite would still be allowed.
patrick frisbie
43:35
Please explain the status of the two Twin Metals mineral leases. Isn't one of them further along?
Tom Seibert
44:21
I agree with the popularity of the bill but I continue to be miffed at the lack of support from Klobuchar and Smith. They need to get on-board
Craig Zarley
44:30
Where does Senator Klobuchar stand on the bill?
Kate Paul
44:45
IF you do the 20-year ban. Couldn't the next president just reverse that?
patrick frisbie
44:55
What is Amy Klobuchar's stance on copper-nickel mining?
Christine Popowski
45:46
Great Presentation gotta go Christine Popowski
Michael Reinemer
46:19
Would love to get this slide deck for use by Izaak Walton League. mreinemer@iwla.org
Deborah Huskins
46:32
The federal legislation will apply to federal land--what about the state lands? Do we need separate legislation to prevent mining on state lands, or will a federal ban be sufficient to make a mine unworkable on state lands?
Matt Norton
47:01
Deb Huskins:
Matt Norton
48:57
A state equivalent is needed to cover state lands, but yes, the federal and state public lands are so intermixed that barring new leasing on federal lands will effectively block the Twin Metals and other sulfide-ore copper-nickel mining proposals.
Rikki Jean Jensen
51:05
Good info. thank you.
Matt Norton
51:11
https://www.savetheboundarywaters.org/updates/science-desk-critical-minerals-offers-poor-justification-twin-metals-mine
Michael Darling
51:32
Could you share the name of the study/report that designated the BWCA as a “High Importance protection area across all three models?”
Rikki Jean Jensen
53:35
Do we have a new Secretary of Agriculture yet?
Paul Hill
56:26
I am so grateful for all your efforts. Thank you so much and please keep up the great work!
Save the BWCA
56:54
Michael, this came from The Wilderness Society.
Save the BWCA
58:41
Thanks for the feedback, Mark!
Save the BWCA
01:00:07
Michael, I’ll email you after this presentation. Thanks for your interest!
Molly Mikan
01:01:52
Thank you for your work. It's so critical to have talented, knowledgeable staff devoted to preserving this national treasure
Michael S
01:05:31
Is Antofagasta a Chilean company? Antofagasta is a city in northern Chile.
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:05:38
yes
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:06:00
thanks Matt. great info.
Tom Seibert
01:06:10
Matt - great comment on the product going to China for processing and then us needing to purchase it. This point needs to be more publicized!
Save the BWCA
01:06:34
Antofagasta is both a city and a mining company with a terrible track record in Chile.
Michael S
01:07:10
Are they a Chilean firm?
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:07:27
yes. they’re Chilean.
Save the BWCA
01:08:38
Yes, Antofagasta is Chilean.
Save the BWCA
01:09:23
Take Action Here: https://www.savetheboundarywaters.org/action
Annika Bergen
01:12:02
Thank you so much for this session!
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:12:04
can’t wait til Covid is over. I’d love to do outreach via tabling at locals events.
Save the BWCA
01:12:09
If you’d like to send a message to your Representative, you can do that here: https://www.savetheboundarywaters.org/bwca-action-national-jan-2020
Alex Falconer
01:12:38
info@savetheboundarywaters.org and I would be happy to help you reach out to your members of congress, write a letter to the editor, host your own online gathering for friends and family, etc. lots we can do together!
Lincoln Fetcher
01:13:00
Antofagasta is a Chilean company.
Alex Falconer
01:13:56
Ricki: We have ways you could host a socially distanced/online event as well. Please reach out and a member of our team will work with you!
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:14:08
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Alex Falconer
01:14:17
*Rikki* - sorry for name misspelling
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:14:25
lord knows, I’ve got the time!
Debbie Nelson
01:16:59
what about a copper recycling plant up der
Save the BWCA
01:17:13
You can check out Northeastern Minnesotans for Wilderness at BoundaryWaters.org
Debbie Nelson
01:18:33
Stauber will vote against her
Nate Clark
01:19:02
thank you for share the info. I have to go know I will check out the website today. thank you for all you do
Rikki Jean Jensen
01:19:24
So excited about Deb Haaland
Save the BWCA
01:20:17
Thanks to everyone for attending! We can’t wait to work with you to save our favorite wild place!!!
William Welke
01:20:40
Thank you for this presentation. Informative.
Paul Hill
01:20:52
Don’t feel bad about asking for money. What you are doing is noble and true. Ask early and often.
Dennis Avery
01:20:55
thank you for this opportunity
Tom Seibert
01:21:04
Keep up the good fight! Thanks You!