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Archdeaconry Day - Shared screen with speaker view
Caroline Husband
36:03
I have dodgy internet today so will block video in the hope of getting better audio
Alison Sowton
38:32
Hi I AM STRUGGLING TO GET VOLUME TODAY. CAN SEE BUT NOT HEAR
Suzanne Pattle
40:35
Sound not great
Tony & Nicola Gilbert
40:36
Can't hear
Andrew Sinclair
40:48
Volume better now!
Tony & Nicola Gilbert
42:14
Which one of my churches?
Chalke Valley Churches
42:24
I have 13
George Moody
42:58
16 parishes, 17 buildings, maybe 20+ congregations
Cora Yarrien
42:58
Online fundraising
Mike Tufnell
59:59
Thank you Andrew - very helpful, would love your notes, my summary below of some highlights…
Pete Sainsbury
01:00:27
Also, thank you Andrew. Encouraging!
Lorraine Dobbins
01:00:44
Thanks Andrew!
Patches Chabala
01:01:23
Thank you Andrew, that’s very helpful.
Rob Thomas
01:01:39
Thanks very much, Andrew
Mike Tufnell
01:01:52
Model it - do it yourself // This is NOT about ‘paying share’, but the things share pays for… good message // that it ‘kills Mammon’, grip of money on us, about discipleship and freedom // the positive message, vision // about ownership and being a stakeholder in what God is doing // leveraging good progress and good news to create a culture of generosity and hope //
Mike Tufnell
01:01:55
Thank you
Richard Hancock
01:03:39
Do we not need to cast our nets on the other side. So often we preach or continue to ask the faithful for more money but unless there is a maintenance scheme we don’t ask the local community to contribute to the life and heritage of the church. A building they will use from time to time. I believe the key to the survival of our rural churches is not ask the faithful for more money but engaging with the wider community to support their heritage.
Andy Perry
01:03:46
Thanks for your openness too, Janice :)
Mike Tufnell
01:04:18
Thank you Janice
Simon Evans
01:04:42
Thanks Janice
Pete Sainsbury
01:04:48
Thank you Janice, appreciated that.
Rev Maria Shepherdson
01:04:57
Thanks Andrew and Janice
Colin Heber-Percy
01:08:06
Thank you, Kelvin - that was very wise and practical and helpful
Zoom user Taylor
01:08:08
thank you so much Kelvin
Suzanne Pattle
01:08:26
Thank you Andrew, Janice and Kelvin
Peter Breckwoldt
01:08:30
Some great words of encouragement from the speakers: Some encouragement from 2 Corinthians 8. We must begin by giving ourselves to the Lord (v 5) The Macedonians gave generously but ”they gave themselves first to the Lord”. In a sense our gifts are not acceptable to God until we have first given ourselves to Him (Proverbs 15:8 & Romans 12:1.
Mike Tufnell
01:09:06
Thank you Kelvin, some really helpful stuff there too… the importance of being transparently generous as a church, and saying thank you
Lucy Holt
01:09:16
Thank you Kelvin - like the emphasis on not holding on to the reserves but spending it - this links in with the culture of generosity.Thank you also Andrew and Janice
David Price
01:09:57
Thank you John for reminding us of the generosity of God
Andrew Rowland
01:09:59
Agree do not bury treasure (reserves) use them (prayerfully)
Lorraine Dobbins
01:10:41
I like that... Culture eats strategy for breakfast..
Ben Rundell-Evans
01:11:34
Worth remembering you can only use reserves once! Great for spending them on life giving activities or projects, but not necessarily the answer to fiscal stability.
Peter Homden
01:13:23
The theme of generosity is vital, some churches have used their reserves to bless the community, through giving to needs of people through this pandemic. Generosity is at the centre of who God is, he gave all, His son…
Rachma Abbott
01:13:25
those in multiparish benefices - how much energy do you give to chasing the parishes that don't get the vision and how much to concentrating on those that do get it. Some years back we were asked to do a survey on sermons and money - one church insisted I hadn't preached on money in the whole time, one church said I spoke about it regularly the difference seemed to me to be that the church that was struggling to pay its share was open to listening - that church has transformed its giving. But I'm not sure how much time I should be focussing on the churches that aren't 'with the programme' . Equally some people will insist they don't know where parish share goes even though other people in the same group do understand this.
Andrew Sinclair
01:13:28
Surely we as a church should be challenging the national attitude to the Covid vaccination campaign by encouraging a more generous sharing of vaccines with poor countries. From outside, the UK must seem like a greedy country that puts itself before others.
Rachma Abbott
01:14:03
Amen Andrew
Daniel Ingles
01:14:15
Great stuff John. Many thanks
Peter Breckwoldt
01:14:16
Seek First the Kingdom … Thank you John for encouraging us with your stories and God's blessings! Open hands!
Gale
01:14:28
Thank you to all the speakers
Suzanne Pattle
01:14:29
Thank you John for your wisdom
Zoom user Taylor
01:14:31
brilliant..thank you John
Sarah Hillman
01:14:34
Would love to know the answer to your questions Rachma
Mike Tufnell
01:14:35
Yes John, thanks again, very helpful… this is a discipleship issue, not a giving issue… God doesn’t want people’s money, he wants their hearts - and if people aren’t giving from the heart, God doesn’t want it. It’s a discipleship issue. Our generosity blesses others, but it is also for OUR benefit. Our freedom, our joy. Thank you!
Chris Tebbutt
01:14:57
Thanks John, very helpful. I always say that giving is a spiritual thermometer...
Rob Thomas
01:15:17
Very helpful, John; thank you
Rachma Abbott
01:15:20
What answers do we give Christians who want to tithe but not to the parish church - people might see giving for ministries elsewhere in places of greater need e.g a mercy ships chaplain or missionary worrk
David Pain
01:15:21
thank you to our speakers, lots to take away and work on from those presentations
Peter Homden
01:15:59
Giving from the heart is vital..God does that..
Sarah Pix
01:16:14
really great input there. thanks to all the contributors
Pete Sainsbury
01:16:23
Thank you Kelvin for wise, practical advice and to John for opening up warm receiving and giving
Stephen Partridge
01:17:43
Thank you for your contributions Andrew, Janice, Kelvin and John, lots to think on and messages to take back to our parishes.
Lianne Howard-Dace
01:21:21
Thanks everyone for the comments and questions above - where we don’t address these across the rest of this morning we will take them away and use them to inform the follow up e.g. resources and other webinars etc
Alasdair CFC
01:23:20
Like the Mint Idea
Peter Breckwoldt
01:23:53
Good little film!
Cora Yarrien
01:24:24
Could we have the Webinars dates in the Chat?
Chris Martin
01:24:28
Are there plans to share all this good and valuable stuff with our church treasurers at some point? Or is this all fed down through incumbents?
Andy Perry
01:24:37
Yes, v accessible & memorable
Patches Chabala
01:25:35
Good video
Lianne Howard-Dace
01:25:43
The webinars are linked to here: www.churchofengland.org/generous-church-webinars
David Price
01:25:48
Can we download that helpful video to show people not online?
Lianne Howard-Dace
01:26:13
And the toolkit here: www.churchofengland.org/generosity-toolkit
Rachma Abbott
01:26:15
as well as thank yous which I know work well I'm aware that at Hilmarton that one of things that worked very well in stewardship at Hilmarton was saying very clearly that we recognised some people would need to reduce their giving - recognising that people need to review giving / not simply fix it once. Also I remember very powerfully in London being reminded that if you are wealthy tithing isn't enough can't remember the name of the preacher who talked about this
Lianne Howard-Dace
01:26:50
I will keep sharing the links but we’ll make sure everyone has access to them after today’s session including the video etc
john simmons
01:27:24
A professional fundraiser once said to me it is important to tell people how NOT to give!
Alasdair CFC
01:27:43
Can these cards be email to us after please ?
Mike Tufnell
01:28:22
Would love to know the best way to talk about legacies as well as regular giving… it at least used to be the case that by giving the right percentage of your inheritance to charity, you were actually able to leave MORE to family because the remainder after giving to charity was taxed at a lower rate… And since we can’t take our money with us, (and it’d be useless even if we could!) why not give it to something that invests in the eternal and will make a difference…!
Lianne Howard-Dace
01:28:38
Of course Alasdair, we will make sure everyone has access to the resources after today’s session
Rachma Abbott
01:28:44
There's some really good CofE material on legacies that helps
Rachma Abbott
01:28:59
and some stuff comes up through the gravetalk stuff
Mike Perry
01:36:29
Too short - we really need more time in the break outs
Suzanne Pattle
01:36:34
Not long enough for discussion - but possibly my fault as someone who engages through discussion
Pete Sainsbury
01:36:52
Not at all, Suzanne!
Andrew Sinclair
01:36:52
Agreed, Suzanne
Lorraine Dobbins
01:36:59
We keep running out of time in our breakout room too.
Andrew Gough
01:37:00
Enjoying the discussions can we have more time
Pete Sainsbury
01:37:41
More transparent information about national church assets and the place they play in our local life would be very helpful.
Tony Gilbert - Rector 3 Valleys Benefice
01:37:56
Agreed. More time please.
Mike Tufnell
01:39:51
Helpful little insights from my group… I expect wisdom to be mined in asking both those who don’t give generously, as well as those who do as to WHY they don’t/do… bold to do so, but the only way to really find out what is going on… an ‘anonymous survey’ perhaps leading into teaching on stewardship??? that will at the very least inform the questions you need to address, or appropriately challenge what you might be doing wrong that you need to amend… or RIGHT, that you need to amplify!
Philip
01:45:55
well done Admin team... you're doing a great job! Can't be easy
Rachma Abbott
01:49:21
In addition to Maria's comment for which I'm very grateful - I think we have to acknowledge that the safeguarding failures of the church are also something that rightly mean people's trust in the church as institution rather than body is diminished
Suzanne Pattle
01:50:54
Agree with Rachma and Maria that there are things that need to be named in order to move forward in a positive way
Alasdair CFC
01:52:08
Hey I used to be at the Bear in Deptford in the early days of the 90’s !! Great church great to meet you
Alasdair CFC
01:52:29
It was a derelict pub when I was there
Chine McDonald
01:53:57
Ah, glad someone's heard of it, Alasdair
Alasdair CFC
01:54:25
I was an Ichthus Networker there very happy memories
Richard Saint - St James, Devizes
01:55:27
What do you think the key things to include in an inspiring story to prompt giving / support?
Dan Doherty
01:56:50
Thanks David 👍🏻
Sarah Pix
01:57:02
not letting your right hand know what your left hand is doing
Richard Saint - St James, Devizes
01:57:26
Thinking of how best to include a request to support the mission of the church during a YouTube service?
Andy Perry
01:58:25
V moving illustrations Tim, thanks
Andrew Gough
01:59:04
Thanks Tim
Chris Grasske
01:59:11
How often is it that those with the least give the most
Rachma Abbott
01:59:15
How do we help treasurers who as people of probity and integrity may feel very pressured by being asked to give money that they can see is not available in the budget to have confidence and trust in the generosity of God. Worth saying in my 5 parishes I have two where we benefit from skills of coopted non church going treasurers and we couldn't do without them.
Rev Maria Shepherdson
01:59:21
How can we address the widely held view of the wealth held by the C of E centrally being withheld from the parishes- a very commonly held view locally here in Wiltshire -other than what we already do by way of education presentations and conversations
Peter Homden
01:59:36
Excellent, I am reminded of the fragrance filling the house, that is the sort giving..
Kelvin Inglis - St Thomas's Salisbury
01:59:42
We put a big QR code on our YouTube recorded services -and I've just started pointing it out...
Pete Sainsbury
01:59:44
Echoing Maria here…
Gaenor Hockey
01:59:51
Very true in my experience the poorest people are the most generous to others
Ben Rundell-Evans
02:00:05
I would echo Maria too...
Peter Breckwoldt
02:00:24
Yes Thanks for these contributions!
Rachma Abbott
02:00:58
and in mine too - amounts may seem more from wealthier churches but in terms of sacrificial giving often it is those who know how important it can be to be able to receive
Andrew Gough
02:01:10
I had a similar experiences while in Malawi
Andrew Rowland
02:02:37
I had the joy if living abroad in two different countries where generosity was a way of being
Mark Wood
02:02:43
One of the issues about clergy leading on giving is thatwe always says "share mainly funds clergy" - so it feels like we are asking for ourselves
Suzanne Pattle
02:03:14
Mark raises an important point - as if we are having to sing for our supper putting it a bit crudely.
John Rees
02:03:32
One of our Parish Councils, while recognising the good work done by the Benefice, 4 years ago declined to help with ground maintenance at a closed church/open churchyard because they see the national church as rich. How can we deal with this?
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:03:37
for me its because I am employed by the church and the impression of parish is that parish share is paying for my ministry also there is a concept that parish share should not be paid in interregnum and that parish share has increased again over the years
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:03:57
well said MArk- and some of my people here have articulated this very well and make a differentiation between preaching about first to the Lord including us and ' clergy begging their bread. And that's from a very trad congregation
Rachma Abbott
02:04:11
Yes and in some settings I've been in ministry (not here in this benefice!) I've been very aware of being wealthier and certainly more secure than many of those I'm called to serve. Whereas here I think I'm the only church member who doesn't own a home.
Ben Rundell-Evans
02:04:31
I would agree here with Mark and Becky about effectively raising money to pay for clergy stipend. Spending my time raising money for my own stipend feels profoundly lacking in benevolence for my congregation and community.
Richard Saint - St James, Devizes
02:04:40
Thank you Dan
Sue Rodd
02:05:15
So we ask for huge amounts of money for bespoke woodwork etc in buildings that we largely use just as "clubhouses for the holy huddle" - we're constantly saying " we need your help" rather than asking "what can we do for/with you? Yes, our buildings re important and precious", but Lockdown has shown us just how powerful it is when we are trying to meet needs "out there", rather than just expecting people to fit in with what we already do...
Chris Smith
02:05:31
Church Commissioners' Assets are £8.7 billion. They spend 2.75% of this on the church. But as they've been blessed with 8.5% returns for the last 30 years we could ask for a one off COVID gift. Even an extra .5% would be a £1 million one off to each diocese.
Pete Sainsbury
02:05:59
Thank you, Chris.
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:06:15
thank you Chris
Ben Rundell-Evans
02:06:20
Thank you Chris
Roger Powell
02:06:27
Thank you Chris
Andrew Gough
02:06:27
I agree too Chris
Colin Heber-Percy
02:06:28
Thank you, Chris!
Suzanne Pattle
02:06:45
Well said Chris!
Gaenor Hockey
02:06:48
Great point Chris
Peter Homden
02:07:32
That is very interesting Chris..
margaret higham
02:07:50
Thanks Chris
Alasdair CFC
02:07:58
Per haps one to put to our GS reps Chris ?
Tim Gomm (Portland)
02:08:05
good link here https://www.parishresources.org.uk/using-qr-codes-to-encourage-giving/
Andrew Sinclair
02:08:06
Thanks, Martha et al. for your contributions
Carol Green
02:08:13
Good point, thanks. This is the rainy day.
Antony MacRow-Wood
02:08:38
It costs over £2bn to run the CoE annually. The Church Commissioners’s money (much of it a pension fund) would be spent out in about 3 years - not a sustainable way to run the Church. Today’s church needs to pay for today.
Eleanor Ashton
02:08:46
I do rather feel that a 'fallow year' in all sorts of things would really help the diocese, so we could be held a little bit, and then plan for the future from a place of reasonable security.
Rachma Abbott
02:08:50
It certainly felt easier when I was in reader ministry when I could say very clearly that I benefitted from what was given to the Diocese (London) in terms of my training and ask for people to give including to support the excellent ministry of the priest! Also I get parishes saying we don't get a whole priest because we share you with 6 other churches - especially as when I first came they were sharing me with only 3 other ones... so sometimes tying giving to share can make people even less willing to help out their fellow churches - although I have to say that here one of the churches helped out another with a £1000 towards its share because they could afford it in past years (both in my time and before)
Bob Kenway
02:10:00
Thank you to our panel. Sorry I missed a bit as I had someone at the door bringing 2 months worth of giving envelopes. Quick answer to prayer!
Daniel Ingles
02:10:05
Thanks Martha, Chine , Tim and Dan.
Pete Sainsbury
02:10:15
Antony, I think we need some concise, clear, further information on this.
Suzanne Pattle
02:10:16
Thank you to the team for your contributions
Mike Tufnell
02:10:23
Thank you to all the contributors
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:10:23
thanks you Team Weatherhill!
Jo Haine
02:10:27
Thank you.
Gaenor Hockey
02:10:30
Amen Martha!
Stephen Partridge
02:10:30
Thank you Martha and your team.
Helen Simpkiss - National Giving Team
02:10:42
Amen Martha!
Deborah Matthews
02:10:48
Thank you all for your input
Tim Gomm (Portland)
02:10:53
thanks panel
Christine Brooks
02:10:57
thank you
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:11:09
the long work of God
Andrew Gough
02:11:37
Very useful - thanks panel
Peter Breckwoldt
02:11:54
Thank you for the this get together today.
Leslie Player
02:12:14
Just wondering how we moved from a paper for conversation and consultation last year to a campaign that we are all now apparently a part of (and indeed heading up) in our already extremely busy ministries?
Chris Tebbutt
02:12:30
Thanks for the tremendous effort put into this morning - very helpful to listen to other’s experiences.
Rachma Abbott
02:12:41
Thank you for this session interesting to have a balance between people within our diocese and from beyond.
Lorraine Dobbins
02:12:54
Sorry for the accidental unmute trying to get my 9year old to get on with his school work.
Daniel Ingles
02:13:28
It occurs to me that people will give to dynamic causes where they can see a real benefit. That seems very different from paying the church insurance and fabric costs which absorb large amounts of finance. Perhaps this is easier for churches to ask for money where they are directly and obviously able to bless the community
Suzanne Pattle
02:16:35
Agree Daniel
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:18:03
agree Daniel
Zoom user Taylor
02:18:52
my goodness I hope we have some energy to do all this!!
Mike Tufnell
02:19:02
There are clearly some very difficult circumstances for most of us at the moment in this area, and a lot of pressure in a time with so many other challenges as well. Challenges so many are rising to in amazing ways. Bless you all. You’re in my prayers… individually and our churches… praying that God will, each in our context, give us rest and renew our hope. (And wish I was where Alasdair CFC has in his background!)
Richard Curtis - Cannings and Redhorn Team
02:19:12
Will there be a follow up session for LWL and LPAs as they play a significant part in rural ministry?
Rachma Abbott
02:19:17
I find it a funny mix so we have had no trouble raising money for roofs (well not no trouble but I hope the emphasis is clear) because people see the value of the big projects but in often giving has been 'not for the diocese' or 'not for the ongoing ministry of the church'
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:19:53
Agree with Richard - TREASURERS need to be brought on board too
Jo Haine
02:20:05
I think there is still a lack of understanding what the Parish Share is. I know some Dioceses have produced really good videos explaining what the Share is and I wondered if Salisbury have a good quality video and if not can one please be done as part of this. Thanks
Rachma Abbott
02:20:07
and I think it is important that those in associate ministries are given an opportunity
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:20:09
agree treasurers need to be on board
Antony MacRow-Wood
02:20:29
YesJo a video is planned
Suzanne Pattle
02:20:33
I think there are some really useful resources for which I am grateful, but this feels very much a top down exercise and yes will be praying for energy and discernment to know how and what to engage.
Richard Curtis - Cannings and Redhorn Team
02:20:37
There are still a large number of people who think that clergy are paid for by them, often presumed as by the state. Many people don't believe that I'm not a civil servant.
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:20:37
A presentation on share for our PCCS is a matter of urgency from diocese
Daniel Ingles
02:20:45
Rachma, im not sure everyone agrees on what the ongoing mission of the Church is!
Andrew Rowland
02:20:50
Good investment of 2 hours. Thank you Seeds sown....
Jo Haine
02:20:56
Great!
Rachma Abbott
02:20:57
exactly so Daniel!
Rachma Abbott
02:21:29
but exactly those words have been used to me when a legacy or special collection has been given.
Richard Curtis - Cannings and Redhorn Team
02:21:39
Yes there definitely needs to be a meeting for Treasurers and don't forget Benefice treasurers as they often have a particular over view and are often not as stressed by trying to keep the ship afloat.
Deb Smith
02:21:40
I wonder if there is space to think about the number of buildings we have and thinking the unthinkable about closing buildings
Alasdair CFC
02:21:41
Video would be very helpful and if this seminar could go to Treasurers and CW’s it would be very helpful
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:21:46
seeds sown its about how to prioritise amongst many priorities
Nick Clarke
02:21:47
Really good session this morning. Online giving is a need
Lorraine Dobbins
02:22:01
More chance to discuss with others would be great.
Peter Greenwood
02:22:03
Shorter zoom meetings please
Joanna Abecassis
02:22:07
Hope you're planning to share all this with Treasurers too? Would be good.
margaret higham
02:22:11
Video for PPC embers to look at.
Tony Gilbert - Rector 3 Valleys Benefice
02:22:12
Daniel I agree with you about the Mission.
Andrew Rowland
02:22:14
Video for treasurers needed
Liz Ashmead
02:22:15
Planning to arrange a Zoom meeting soon for all treasurers
Rachma Abbott
02:22:28
I agree with Deb but it needs not to seem like a punishment for not giving enough especially if churches feel like they're trying
Lorraine Dobbins
02:22:45
I have found it really helpful and would have preferred a longer zoom session it felt a bit rushed especially breakout rooms
Jeremy Brading
02:22:49
Excellent Archdeaconary day today
Sue Rodd
02:22:50
why, if all this material is already available, is it going to take seven months to get going? October is only 2 months away from year end....
Eleanor Ashton
02:22:58
please can DBF start to levy a single Share for a single incumbent post? It is enormously divisive within a small multi village community when they are divided up into even smaller sub groups to pay for the same ministry
Cora Yarrien
02:23:04
Please can we have in chat webinar dates
Cora Yarrien
02:23:19
from the national team
Janice Audibert
02:23:19
Found it a very useful session
Andrew Sinclair
02:23:23
We needed longer in chat rooms!
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:23:25
It would be helpful to know what the Diocese is doing to cut finances etc in a format that can be shared with pccs
Lesley
02:23:26
Thank you a very useful 2 hours
Rachma Abbott
02:23:27
Eleanor is exactly right
Andy Bousfield
02:23:30
I thought Henri Neuwen's leaflet was worth a read thanks for suggesting this.
Tim Gomm (Portland)
02:23:41
the thought of placing QR codes on videos and door ways quite an interesting idea
Tom Coopey
02:23:42
Big thank you to all contributors. Excellent session. Thanks!
John Rees
02:23:43
A useful start thank you!
Stuart Cocksedge
02:23:45
A really helpful and stimulating session this morning. Thank you to all involved
Patches Chabala
02:23:47
Very useful!! Thank you.
Colin Heber-Percy
02:23:48
I think it's very important that treasurers are engaged and on board and inspired. They often - very sensibly - err on the side of parsimony than generosity...
Jo Haine
02:23:48
Really helpful session. Thank you everyone.
Chris Smith
02:23:49
Useful session; thank you so much for organising.
Peter Greenwood
02:23:53
Thank you all very much
Rachma Abbott
02:23:53
although it was quite long to fit in among all the other bits of ministry
Caroline Husband
02:23:54
I can't really take part in the poll as I've had internet problems...I don't even know what we're being asked to do except run a course on generosity and look at the toolkit...?
Penny Draper
02:24:02
Very useful morning - thank you all.
Stephen Partridge
02:24:13
Thank you for this session, lots of hard work has led to a good reflection and plenty of thoughts to take away.
Richard Curtis - Cannings and Redhorn Team
02:24:14
We need to keep drip feeding information to everyone. There is so much on PCCs plates at the moment and so much worry about the future. We need to go gently on this and this needs to be seen as support and not work imposed upon people.
Rob Thomas
02:24:15
Useful session. Thanks very much
Jonathan Plows
02:24:15
I would like to see much greater joined up thinking on this between clergy and Treasurers - I have 8 to discuss this with and need to have some control of the discussion - otherwise it could be counterproductive
Andrew Sinclair
02:24:20
Thanks, everyone. One of the more useful Archdeaconry Days!
Sarah Pix
02:24:24
thank you. really interesting morning, and good to be together!
Deb Smith
02:24:26
Agree with Eleanor's point too
Lorraine Dobbins
02:24:27
Thank you, very useful day.
Colin Heber-Percy
02:24:28
Very good session. Thank you.
Chris Tebbutt
02:24:31
Interesting how the pandemic’s given us new ways like Zoom to communicate. God can use even the cursed virus.
Tim Gomm (Portland)
02:24:32
thanks for all your hard work. Is the toolkit free?
Jonathan Plows
02:24:33
Thank you very much everyone
Suzanne Pattle
02:24:35
Thank you. This has been stimulating but would have valued more time in chat to respond to information and share with colleagues. A good Archdeaconry Day.
Wellsprings Benefice
02:24:36
Thank you lots to reflect on here !
Gaenor Hockey
02:24:37
Thankyou all.
Rachma Abbott
02:24:41
Agree Richard and Jonathan - it takes a long time to get through multiple PCCs
Craig Ryalls (St Paul's Salisbury)
02:24:42
I think that the Diocese needs to have the same approach of the vision and a communication strategy of explaining parish share and telling stories - so there is consistency with what is being asked of us within our local context.
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:24:52
agree craig
Andy Perry
02:24:52
Huge thanks to Antony M-W and the whole team who put this together
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:24:55
agree with elanors comment
Alison Sowton
02:24:56
Thanks for this session. A useful focused day. Great tech.
Richard Hancock
02:24:57
Many Thanks
Daniel Ingles
02:24:57
Agree Crsaig
Peter Ostli-East
02:24:58
Thank you 😊 everyone, including all contributors
David Pain
02:24:59
thanks for all the thoughts shared in chat- really useful morning!
Wellsprings Benefice
02:25:00
Agree with Craig
Juliette Hulme
02:25:00
Thankyou for all the hard work that has gone into this morning.
Rev Maria Shepherdson
02:25:01
ADMIN TEAM WELL DONE
Lorraine Dobbins
02:25:05
Agree Craig.
Mike Perry
02:25:30
I think you do need to spend time on helping us to buy into this. Having a starting point that clergy are a bit rubbish at stewardship was not a good start, neither was the assumption that we would obviously buy into the Diocesan stewardship campaign. Very happy to have resources - all that is positive, but I know a lot of colleagues who are very tired and rather irritated that we are rather rubbish at stewardship.
Kelvin Inglis - St Thomas's Salisbury
02:25:36
Excellent thank you
Pete Sainsbury
02:25:42
Challenging times - we serve a good God. Let’s keep going! Thank you all who contributed!
Revd Becky, Harnham
02:25:47
Holding on to a generous life giving God Thank you all
Ruth Schofield
02:25:47
Thank you to all the contributors and for good chat.
Craig Ryalls (St Paul's Salisbury)
02:25:57
Very helpful session this morning thank you to all who organised it.
Tim Laundon
02:26:00
One of my treasurers and many of my church members are feeling very confused by what I have shared with them about the 2020 Budget because they say that only a few years ago they were told that the Diocese was in a very good place financially. So they don’t understand how things can have changed so much and so quickly. Please can we help them to understand
Rhona Floate
02:26:03
Thank you to all
Beth Hutton
02:26:06
Thanks to all involved - a useful morning.
Rachma Abbott
02:26:06
Thank you Mike - I agree it has been premised on the idea that we aren't doing any of this already