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Embodying Binyanim (Fall 2022) - Shared screen with speaker view
Soup (they/them) - Tech
41:57
Welcome, and chag sameach! Here's a link where you can view and download the slides:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wVu1FVSO8u9vI2htXnn2cs0XVr0ka32Wm2hjDiHHyYM/edit?usp=sharing
Emmett Hartwin
42:08
Noah and Sarit, y'all always look so happy to be here, and it makes me smile. :)
Hadass Eviatar
42:13
Happy Hanukkah! Hadass here, she/they in freezing Winnipeg, Treaty 1 Territory, excited to be here.
Roan Boucher
43:22
Roan, tired and full!
Bridget (she/her)
43:24
Bridget here! My pronouns are she/her and I'm feeling tired, but in a good way. (Looking forward to getting a good night's rest a bit later)
Emmett (they/them)
43:40
Emmett, they/them, and I'm feeling kind of emotionally fragile tonight for no particular reason? But also very glad to be here.
Nat (they/them)
43:52
Nat, they/them, feeling relieved
Soup (they/them) - Tech
43:54
Welcome, and chag sameach! Here's a link where you can view and download the slides:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wVu1FVSO8u9vI2htXnn2cs0XVr0ka32Wm2hjDiHHyYM/edit?usp=sharing
molly block (they|she)
44:40
hiii — molly, she or they, feeling a bit scattered and bubbbly. Big love to facilitators and space holders <3
Laynie S. (they/them)
45:10
hi everyone! Laynie, they/them, I'm landing <3
Nicolia
45:14
nicolia, they/she, a little off kilter
Jules Weitz
45:32
Jules here (she/her) feeling like there aren’t enough versions of me to do everything that I want to do.
Emmett (they/them)
45:36
And with Noah's cat!
molly block (they|she)
46:03
“It wouldn’t be grammar class without a little bit of magic” sarit, you gem.
Emmett (they/them)
47:03
I'm gonna light candles with my partner later, but y'all can check out my awesome LED hanukkiah that a friend made for me!
Nat (they/them)
47:13
whoa emmett
debra (she/her)
47:48
Hello from debra, she/her, in Philly. Enjoying the solstice candle I lit along with my menorah tonight, and also sleepy
Emmett (they/them)
47:56
Full credit to Rain (my friend) for the idea, and for making one for me! :)
Emmett (they/them)
48:03
It's super cool though!
Bridget (she/her)
49:04
Dedicating my learning today to my Queer Talmud for Beginners' Mind class that just finished
Hadass Eviatar
49:59
We have an LED hanukkiah in the window along with the traditional ones too, Emmett. My spouse made it. So cool.
Hadass Eviatar
50:16
This is the night that Shammai and Hillel cross over …
Emmett (they/them)
50:36
So neat! Technology is super cool.
Emmett (they/them)
50:45
Also Noah your cat is perfect
Jack (he/they)
51:03
dedicating my learning to the healing of 3 of my chosen fam members: Shoshana Devorah bat Freda tzipia (surgery), asher feigaleh chaim mibet sara & Avraham (cold) and gavriel ben Sarah (COVID)and especially to my beloved alex barr who is waiting to hear back from a biopsy but likely has cancer for the 3rd timeso so much healing to these beloveds
Laynie S. (they/them)
52:37
amen amen amen <3
Hadass Eviatar
52:42
Amen!
molly block (they|she)
52:45
pssshhhhhh
Hadass Eviatar
53:09
Dedicating my learning to all the people of Treaty 1 territory, traditional territory of the Anishinaabeg, Cree, Oji-Cree, Dakota, and Dene Peoples, and the National Homeland of the Red River Métis.
Emmett (they/them)
53:31
Okay, sidebar, but if anybody hasn't looked up the root for "la'asok" yet, highly recommend it. It's a cool set of meanings.
Hadass Eviatar
54:56
Wait until you are my age, then nouns will REALLY confound you, LOL.
Soup (they/them) - Tech
59:38
How do we understand nouns? What are our associations with nouns? What do you feel when you think of nouns?
Nat (they/them)
01:03:32
Thanks, Bridget and Jason and Mayim! Never enough time!
Hadass Eviatar
01:03:34
OMG that was short! Thanks Emmett and Molly!
molly block (they|she)
01:03:49
💫💞
Hadass Eviatar
01:04:10
Can it be a phrase?
mayim (any/all)
01:04:14
Nouns exist outside of time!
Hadass Eviatar
01:04:20
Bad noun days are a thing.
Emmett (they/them)
01:04:21
"bad noun days"
Nat (they/them)
01:04:27
simpler
molly block (they|she)
01:04:50
grasp-able
Jason Butcher-Koehler (he/him)
01:04:53
nonspecific / lack of nuance?
debra (she/her)
01:04:54
usually concrete - and that can be comforting, or at least not confusing
Jules Weitz
01:04:54
Unpacking how words unveil colonial structures
Elana (she/they/זי)
01:05:04
אַצטאָרס
Nicolia
01:05:08
utilitarian
Elana (she/they/זי)
01:05:11
oops lol
Elana (she/they/זי)
01:05:13
actors*
Bridget (she/her)
01:06:03
"grounded" might be a more positive way to understand them as distinct from verbs maybe?
Emmett (they/them)
01:06:13
"outside of time" reminds me of Heschel's Sabbath (which admittedly I have still not read all of)
Hadass Eviatar
01:06:23
describing the world
Captioner | Corvyn
01:07:00
two types of nouns - maybe there's more! those are... nouns. [laughs] plain ol' nouns. and the other ones are participles
molly block (they|she)
01:09:11
“next year in knowledge of that” kein yehi ratson.
Sarit
01:09:24
Thanks, Nat!
Hadass Eviatar
01:10:39
s'michut
Lea Kissner (they/them)
01:12:18
it's a verb or a noun depending on how you use it
Lea Kissner (they/them)
01:12:33
in English you have more explicit patterns, but yes
Emmett (they/them)
01:12:41
In English I tend to think of it as a "noun form" of a verb
Nat (they/them)
01:12:45
in english are the noun versions always callled gerunds?
Lea Kissner (they/them)
01:12:47
like “ing" forrms
debra (she/her)
01:12:49
in Engish = ing ending
Nat (they/them)
01:12:53
or are participles also noun-y in english?
Lea Kissner (they/them)
01:13:13
(there are past participles, they end in -ed -en, etc. ing is present participles)
Nicolia
01:13:36
yes like “guard” guard = human who guards. or guard, as in I will guard the house (verb), or adjective (guard house)
Lea Kissner (they/them)
01:13:46
Nat "the grounding is slow", for example -- you can use them as nouns
Emmett (they/them)
01:13:53
According to Grammarly, they can work as an adjective or as a noun: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/participle/
Hadass Eviatar
01:14:32
"he who writes"
molly block (they|she)
01:14:38
Nicolia, or guard as a person :O ?
Nicolia
01:14:46
yeah exactly
Emmett (they/them)
01:15:38
Sarit! From our QTBM passage -- "hachoshesh bigrono"!
Sarit
01:15:49
Yes! <3
Hadass Eviatar
01:16:22
@Emmett is that someone who thinks they might be sick?
Soup (they/them) - Tech
01:16:41
The text/hint sheet is here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wnlG-mk8PhGh894PMM4BEz76l1bzvWR_z5OOCgeZ_ws/edit
Emmett (they/them)
01:16:45
"One who is sick in their throat" was approximately how we translated It I think?
Emmett (they/them)
01:17:17
This is the insert for the Amidah for winter, right?
Hadass Eviatar
01:17:21
In modern Hebrew choshesh would be fears, but it's the same root as feeling.
Noah R-B (he/him)
01:17:28
@Emmett, yes!
Hadass Eviatar
01:17:31
Don't think that's in the Amidah.
Hadass Eviatar
01:18:21
Oh never mind. You were talking about the doc. Yes, it is.
Soup (they/them) - Tech
01:19:09
The text/hint sheet is here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wnlG-mk8PhGh894PMM4BEz76l1bzvWR_z5OOCgeZ_ws/edit
Hadass Eviatar
01:41:14
Ah, we weren't done!
Hadass Eviatar
01:41:24
thanks Molly, that was totally amazing.
Noah R-B (he/him)
01:41:29
That's okay! Wherever you got to is perfect!
Nat (they/them)
01:41:31
very same, hadass!
Laynie S. (they/them)
01:41:46
that was so much fun!
Hadass Eviatar
01:41:47
It was just a shock, LOL. If there was a warning I didn't see it.
molly block (they|she)
01:41:52
🌦️ such dreamy juiciness, Hadass! I didn’t even realize we were closing
Hadass Eviatar
01:42:11
We were deeply engrossed in Jastrow!
Emmett (they/them)
01:42:13
Loved this! Thank you to Jason for chavruta-ing with me!
Noah R-B (he/him)
01:45:04
here are the first two words in block print:
Noah R-B (he/him)
01:45:06
מַשִּׁיב הָרוּחַ
Hadass Eviatar
01:45:12
vet
Hadass Eviatar
01:45:50
it is in Hebrew too
Krishna Alexandra
01:49:55
i meant reish yud chet sorry
Nat (they/them)
01:50:28
the root we got was resh-vav-vav-chet — a third option? or maybe we just wandered away
Krishna Alexandra
01:50:50
The
Emmett (they/them)
01:51:51
Okay, question. If mashiv is working as a verb, wouldn't it have to be "mashiv ET haruach" since "haruach" is definite? So does that mean mashiv has to be a noun here?
Jack (he/they)
01:52:22
^that's what we are about to get to Emmett (why we don't have "et")
Hadass Eviatar
01:52:34
I think Mashiv is definitely a noun here.
Jack (he/they)
01:52:52
chicken soupice creamspell book
Hadass Eviatar
01:53:23
sorry
mayim (any/all)
01:53:30
thanks to Annie Kaufman for teaching me about s’michut!
Emmett (they/them)
01:54:49
definite object marker :)
Hadass Eviatar
01:55:41
same, LOL
Noah R-B (he/him)
01:55:58
next 2 words in block print:וּמוֹרִיד הַגֶּשֶׁם
molly block (they|she)
01:57:22
I think its so relevant! Rain as authority!
debra (she/her)
01:57:29
defenistrater
Hadass Eviatar
01:57:34
We wondered about the bit about Joseph causing the royal astronomers to be removed from authority ...
mayim (any/all)
01:57:47
Omg debra that’s so good
debra (she/her)
01:58:11
opening the window of heaven!
Hadass Eviatar
01:59:17
gashmiut means physicality in Hassidic literature. I never made the connection before. So cool.
Hadass Eviatar
01:59:56
the one who causes the rain to fall
Lea Kissner (they/them)
02:01:12
<3
Emmett (they/them)
02:01:59
@hadass -- gashmiut … So would that parse as, like … "down-edness" or "groundedness" in the physicality sense?
Emmett (they/them)
02:03:18
@mayim, I love your excitement. :)
mayim (any/all)
02:03:25
Im screaming!!!! the verb ‘to be’ frozen in time!!
Hadass Eviatar
02:04:19
http://www.jewishlights.com/page/product/978-1-58023-213-5
Jack (he/they)
02:04:24
I see this category (mosheev and moreed) as... the noun is defined by the verb that it is currently (or regularly) engaged in-- but ultimately it is still a noun --we are talking about that being/object/et ceteraI'm curious if it's possible to know if the noun is reffering to something that regularly does the action or is doing it now. Is that one binyan versus another?
debra (she/her)
02:04:41
also sorry for interrupted in the chat earlier! and noticing that my native English speaking mind want to make this a simple verb noun verb noun but it's actually blurrier than that
molly block (they|she)
02:04:46
While learning my body felt so invigorated. Like truly bubby/buzzy and full of potential. My mind had a hard time grasping the noun/verb which is it both it is, and returning to the conversation and jastrow and my body positionality as ground
Hadass Eviatar
02:05:15
Gashmi'ut, @Molly!
Jules Weitz
02:05:18
Can we please continue this class? Part 2?
Jason Butcher-Koehler (he/him)
02:05:25
what 40-page article?
Bridget (she/her)
02:05:32
incidentally, I've been trying to think of a single English verb that could translate "cause to blow" as distinct from "blow" and I can't!
Hadass Eviatar
02:05:33
Is the one offered in the spring zman a continuation or the same?
molly block (they|she)
02:05:46
@hadass <3 oof that’s so good.
Emmett (they/them)
02:07:35
This is Korra, my licker-of-faces
Hadass Eviatar
02:07:49
She causes the face to be licked
Emmett (they/them)
02:07:56
She does indeed. :)
Sarit
02:07:57
lolz
mayim (any/all)
02:11:36
mine was digital! </3
molly block (they|she)
02:11:41
danced naked under the stars, with vigor and slowness
Hadass Eviatar
02:11:44
I don't have work of my own, but if you like my background, check out Maimonides Nutz on IG and Twitter.
Hadass Eviatar
02:12:01
LOL molly it's too freaking cold!
Emmett (they/them)
02:12:23
I failed to draw a thing because I was distracted by my dog licking my face … But I imagined like quick changes during a musical? Like where the verbs are the actors who do quick changes to play different characters in the play.
Hadass Eviatar
02:13:42
https://www.instagram.com/maimonides_nutz/?hl=en
Hadass Eviatar
02:14:03
Thanks to both of you, I wish you were doing a 10 week zman! Maybe next year??
Noah R-B (he/him)
02:14:13
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Noah R-B (he/him)
02:14:21
^ feedback form!!
Soup (they/them) - Tech
02:14:21
Also here:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfXCpfwuATDzr2PF2nLHnRbz-L6ra6JLQTQjSnYophQRPI54Q/viewform
Roan Boucher
02:14:25
Thank you both (all) so much!!
Soup (they/them) - Tech
02:14:28
oh jinx :)
Soup (they/them) - Tech
02:14:36
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Jules Weitz
02:14:38
Thank you! Thank you!
mayim (any/all)
02:14:42
Thank you so much <3
Nat (they/them)
02:14:46
thank you all so much!!!
Laynie S. (they/them)
02:14:56
thank you Noah, thank you Sarit! I am so enlivened by learning with and from all of y'all
Jack (he/they)
02:14:59
thank you so much. truly lovely
molly block (they|she)
02:15:09
basking and reveling in gratitude. 💫
Elana (she/they/זי)
02:15:13
thanks to all my chevrusa partners :)
Sarit
02:15:24
amen!!!
Nicolia
02:15:24
thank you. this is a really lovely way to learn and absorb these verb forms and their possibilities. I feel soul nourished <3
Hadass Eviatar
02:15:28
Thanks so much to everyone!
debra (she/her)
02:15:52
thanks so much, y'all! lovely and powerful and at the edges of where I can think - just where I need to be <3