
41:57
Welcome, and chag sameach! Here's a link where you can view and download the slides:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wVu1FVSO8u9vI2htXnn2cs0XVr0ka32Wm2hjDiHHyYM/edit?usp=sharing

42:08
Noah and Sarit, y'all always look so happy to be here, and it makes me smile. :)

42:13
Happy Hanukkah! Hadass here, she/they in freezing Winnipeg, Treaty 1 Territory, excited to be here.

43:22
Roan, tired and full!

43:24
Bridget here! My pronouns are she/her and I'm feeling tired, but in a good way. (Looking forward to getting a good night's rest a bit later)

43:40
Emmett, they/them, and I'm feeling kind of emotionally fragile tonight for no particular reason? But also very glad to be here.

43:52
Nat, they/them, feeling relieved

43:54
Welcome, and chag sameach! Here's a link where you can view and download the slides:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wVu1FVSO8u9vI2htXnn2cs0XVr0ka32Wm2hjDiHHyYM/edit?usp=sharing

44:40
hiii — molly, she or they, feeling a bit scattered and bubbbly. Big love to facilitators and space holders <3

45:10
hi everyone! Laynie, they/them, I'm landing <3

45:14
nicolia, they/she, a little off kilter

45:32
Jules here (she/her) feeling like there aren’t enough versions of me to do everything that I want to do.

45:36
And with Noah's cat!

46:03
“It wouldn’t be grammar class without a little bit of magic” sarit, you gem.

47:03
I'm gonna light candles with my partner later, but y'all can check out my awesome LED hanukkiah that a friend made for me!

47:13
whoa emmett

47:48
Hello from debra, she/her, in Philly. Enjoying the solstice candle I lit along with my menorah tonight, and also sleepy

47:56
Full credit to Rain (my friend) for the idea, and for making one for me! :)

48:03
It's super cool though!

49:04
Dedicating my learning today to my Queer Talmud for Beginners' Mind class that just finished

49:59
We have an LED hanukkiah in the window along with the traditional ones too, Emmett. My spouse made it. So cool.

50:16
This is the night that Shammai and Hillel cross over …

50:36
So neat! Technology is super cool.

50:45
Also Noah your cat is perfect

51:03
dedicating my learning to the healing of 3 of my chosen fam members: Shoshana Devorah bat Freda tzipia (surgery), asher feigaleh chaim mibet sara & Avraham (cold) and gavriel ben Sarah (COVID)and especially to my beloved alex barr who is waiting to hear back from a biopsy but likely has cancer for the 3rd timeso so much healing to these beloveds

52:37
amen amen amen <3

52:42
Amen!

52:45
pssshhhhhh

53:09
Dedicating my learning to all the people of Treaty 1 territory, traditional territory of the Anishinaabeg, Cree, Oji-Cree, Dakota, and Dene Peoples, and the National Homeland of the Red River Métis.

53:31
Okay, sidebar, but if anybody hasn't looked up the root for "la'asok" yet, highly recommend it. It's a cool set of meanings.

54:56
Wait until you are my age, then nouns will REALLY confound you, LOL.

59:38
How do we understand nouns? What are our associations with nouns? What do you feel when you think of nouns?

01:03:32
Thanks, Bridget and Jason and Mayim! Never enough time!

01:03:34
OMG that was short! Thanks Emmett and Molly!

01:03:49
💫💞

01:04:10
Can it be a phrase?

01:04:14
Nouns exist outside of time!

01:04:20
Bad noun days are a thing.

01:04:21
"bad noun days"

01:04:27
simpler

01:04:50
grasp-able

01:04:53
nonspecific / lack of nuance?

01:04:54
usually concrete - and that can be comforting, or at least not confusing

01:04:54
Unpacking how words unveil colonial structures

01:05:04
אַצטאָרס

01:05:08
utilitarian

01:05:11
oops lol

01:05:13
actors*

01:06:03
"grounded" might be a more positive way to understand them as distinct from verbs maybe?

01:06:13
"outside of time" reminds me of Heschel's Sabbath (which admittedly I have still not read all of)

01:06:23
describing the world

01:07:00
two types of nouns - maybe there's more! those are... nouns. [laughs] plain ol' nouns. and the other ones are participles

01:09:11
“next year in knowledge of that” kein yehi ratson.

01:09:24
Thanks, Nat!

01:10:39
s'michut

01:12:18
it's a verb or a noun depending on how you use it

01:12:33
in English you have more explicit patterns, but yes

01:12:41
In English I tend to think of it as a "noun form" of a verb

01:12:45
in english are the noun versions always callled gerunds?

01:12:47
like “ing" forrms

01:12:49
in Engish = ing ending

01:12:53
or are participles also noun-y in english?

01:13:13
(there are past participles, they end in -ed -en, etc. ing is present participles)

01:13:36
yes like “guard” guard = human who guards. or guard, as in I will guard the house (verb), or adjective (guard house)

01:13:46
Nat "the grounding is slow", for example -- you can use them as nouns

01:13:53
According to Grammarly, they can work as an adjective or as a noun: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/participle/

01:14:32
"he who writes"

01:14:38
Nicolia, or guard as a person :O ?

01:14:46
yeah exactly

01:15:38
Sarit! From our QTBM passage -- "hachoshesh bigrono"!

01:15:49
Yes! <3

01:16:22
@Emmett is that someone who thinks they might be sick?

01:16:41
The text/hint sheet is here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wnlG-mk8PhGh894PMM4BEz76l1bzvWR_z5OOCgeZ_ws/edit

01:16:45
"One who is sick in their throat" was approximately how we translated It I think?

01:17:17
This is the insert for the Amidah for winter, right?

01:17:21
In modern Hebrew choshesh would be fears, but it's the same root as feeling.

01:17:28
@Emmett, yes!

01:17:31
Don't think that's in the Amidah.

01:18:21
Oh never mind. You were talking about the doc. Yes, it is.

01:19:09
The text/hint sheet is here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wnlG-mk8PhGh894PMM4BEz76l1bzvWR_z5OOCgeZ_ws/edit

01:41:14
Ah, we weren't done!

01:41:24
thanks Molly, that was totally amazing.

01:41:29
That's okay! Wherever you got to is perfect!

01:41:31
very same, hadass!

01:41:46
that was so much fun!

01:41:47
It was just a shock, LOL. If there was a warning I didn't see it.

01:41:52
🌦️ such dreamy juiciness, Hadass! I didn’t even realize we were closing

01:42:11
We were deeply engrossed in Jastrow!

01:42:13
Loved this! Thank you to Jason for chavruta-ing with me!

01:45:04
here are the first two words in block print:

01:45:06
מַשִּׁיב הָרוּחַ

01:45:12
vet

01:45:50
it is in Hebrew too

01:49:55
i meant reish yud chet sorry

01:50:28
the root we got was resh-vav-vav-chet — a third option? or maybe we just wandered away

01:50:50
The

01:51:51
Okay, question. If mashiv is working as a verb, wouldn't it have to be "mashiv ET haruach" since "haruach" is definite? So does that mean mashiv has to be a noun here?

01:52:22
^that's what we are about to get to Emmett (why we don't have "et")

01:52:34
I think Mashiv is definitely a noun here.

01:52:52
chicken soupice creamspell book

01:53:23
sorry

01:53:30
thanks to Annie Kaufman for teaching me about s’michut!

01:54:49
definite object marker :)

01:55:41
same, LOL

01:55:58
next 2 words in block print:וּמוֹרִיד הַגֶּשֶׁם

01:57:22
I think its so relevant! Rain as authority!

01:57:29
defenistrater

01:57:34
We wondered about the bit about Joseph causing the royal astronomers to be removed from authority ...

01:57:47
Omg debra that’s so good

01:58:11
opening the window of heaven!

01:59:17
gashmiut means physicality in Hassidic literature. I never made the connection before. So cool.

01:59:56
the one who causes the rain to fall

02:01:12
<3

02:01:59
@hadass -- gashmiut … So would that parse as, like … "down-edness" or "groundedness" in the physicality sense?

02:03:18
@mayim, I love your excitement. :)

02:03:25
Im screaming!!!! the verb ‘to be’ frozen in time!!

02:04:19
http://www.jewishlights.com/page/product/978-1-58023-213-5

02:04:24
I see this category (mosheev and moreed) as... the noun is defined by the verb that it is currently (or regularly) engaged in-- but ultimately it is still a noun --we are talking about that being/object/et ceteraI'm curious if it's possible to know if the noun is reffering to something that regularly does the action or is doing it now. Is that one binyan versus another?

02:04:41
also sorry for interrupted in the chat earlier! and noticing that my native English speaking mind want to make this a simple verb noun verb noun but it's actually blurrier than that

02:04:46
While learning my body felt so invigorated. Like truly bubby/buzzy and full of potential. My mind had a hard time grasping the noun/verb which is it both it is, and returning to the conversation and jastrow and my body positionality as ground

02:05:15
Gashmi'ut, @Molly!

02:05:18
Can we please continue this class? Part 2?

02:05:25
what 40-page article?

02:05:32
incidentally, I've been trying to think of a single English verb that could translate "cause to blow" as distinct from "blow" and I can't!

02:05:33
Is the one offered in the spring zman a continuation or the same?

02:05:46
@hadass <3 oof that’s so good.

02:07:35
This is Korra, my licker-of-faces

02:07:49
She causes the face to be licked

02:07:56
She does indeed. :)

02:07:57
lolz

02:11:36
mine was digital! </3

02:11:41
danced naked under the stars, with vigor and slowness

02:11:44
I don't have work of my own, but if you like my background, check out Maimonides Nutz on IG and Twitter.

02:12:01
LOL molly it's too freaking cold!

02:12:23
I failed to draw a thing because I was distracted by my dog licking my face … But I imagined like quick changes during a musical? Like where the verbs are the actors who do quick changes to play different characters in the play.

02:13:42
https://www.instagram.com/maimonides_nutz/?hl=en

02:14:03
Thanks to both of you, I wish you were doing a 10 week zman! Maybe next year??

02:14:13
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfXCpfwuATDzr2PF2nLHnRbz-L6ra6JLQTQjSnYophQRPI54Q/viewform

02:14:21
^ feedback form!!

02:14:21
Also here:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfXCpfwuATDzr2PF2nLHnRbz-L6ra6JLQTQjSnYophQRPI54Q/viewform

02:14:25
Thank you both (all) so much!!

02:14:28
oh jinx :)

02:14:36
Registration for SVARA's spring 2023 zman (semester) is open! These classes are a great opportunity to deepen your learning by going in depth on a text over several weeks. We have several classes geared toward beginners so don't worry if you're new to Talmud study!https://svara.org/start-learning/Also, this week at the Mishnah Collective, learn a special Chanukah sugya with amazing guest teachers!https://svara.org/mishnah-collective/

02:14:38
Thank you! Thank you!

02:14:42
Thank you so much <3

02:14:46
thank you all so much!!!

02:14:56
thank you Noah, thank you Sarit! I am so enlivened by learning with and from all of y'all

02:14:59
thank you so much. truly lovely

02:15:09
basking and reveling in gratitude. 💫

02:15:13
thanks to all my chevrusa partners :)

02:15:24
amen!!!

02:15:24
thank you. this is a really lovely way to learn and absorb these verb forms and their possibilities. I feel soul nourished <3

02:15:28
Thanks so much to everyone!

02:15:52
thanks so much, y'all! lovely and powerful and at the edges of where I can think - just where I need to be <3