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Shani (she-her)
15:43
You’re doing a great job lex!
Sarah Elise they&she
17:03
can we please turn off the bell?
Sarah Elise they&she
17:32
(in meeting settings)
shana
18:27
from the internet: "Click Manage Participants to view the participant list of the meeting.At the bottom of the participant list, select More.From the menu that appears, disable the Play Enter/Exit Chime option"
Rachel Albert, she/her/hers
18:28
Rachel Albert, Farm Coordinator at the Boulder JCC Milk & Honey Farm.
Dylan (he/him)
18:31
Hey I’m Dylan. I’m new to the food producing world. I don’t have any experience with Shmitah
Ella Schwarzbaum (she/her)
18:35
Ella (she/her), current veggie farmer, proud Jew but no real knowledge of Jewish farming practice
Tzomi Burkhart
18:39
tzomi, basic understanding of some of the principles of letting land go fallow but want to know more especially from a perspective where there is a lot of snow in winter
Shosh (she/they) & Jack (he/they)
18:47
Jack. spent many years obsessively thinking about shmitta. farm educator. farmer. jewish educator
Caleb Buchbinder_ North Carolonia/USA
18:50
Caleb-young farmer- no experience with shmita
scott
18:51
50 years old, 20 years veg farming. From Baltimore. I have heard Natti Schwartz talk about Schmitta several times. Tend to forget the key points.
Baruch Rock
18:54
I have studied about shmittah. Director of Jewish Learning at Irvine Hebrew day school.
leora (they/she) Jews on Ohlone Land, Lisjan Ohlone land
18:54
I work on Indigenous solidarity and land care as a Jew, was a farmer
Sam (they/them)
18:55
Hey y’all! I’m Sam, aspiring farmer, on Catawba and Sugaree land in NC. I attended a session on Shmita last year and that’s the extent of my knowledge lol
George Wilde (he/him)
18:55
George Wilde, backyard microfarm, learning about Shmita for the first time this year
Xena Becker (she/her)
18:57
Xena, librarian with aspirations of growing some things. No experience with Shmitah
Rebecca Goodwin
19:01
hi I am Rebecca Goodwin I am new to this topic. my husband and I are farmers in the mountains in western North Carolina
Rachel Albert, she/her/hers
19:05
Some basic knowledge of smita and so excited to learn more
Jennifer Grayson Libman (she/her)
19:06
Hi! I’m Jennifer Grayson, journalist/author and beginning farmer. Learned about Shmita this year.
Lexi Weintraub (she/they)
19:13
Lexi (she/they), i have experience in urban ag and hydroponic greenhouse work - new to shmitah!
Claire Friedrichsen (she/her)
19:21
Claire Friedrichsen- social scientist at University of Idaho studying connections between culture, well-being and soil health. No experience with Shmitah
Dylan Stein (he/him)
19:28
Dylan, full time farm manager in CA, shmita beginner
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
19:30
Hello. I am a queer, non-binary gardener, herbalist, owning class person of Jewish and Serbian descent, totally at beginner stages of learning about Shmitta. Want to dig in. On occupied Cherokee and Yuchi lands, so-called asheville, nc
jess clancy (she/her)
19:32
Jess here, veg grower, learned about shmita at the last JFN conference!
Jessie Zelisko (she/her)
19:44
Farmer at Grow Dat Youth Farm in New Orleans. I know about schmitta in a big sense, but am interested in learning about the text related to shmitta and its origins
Beth (they/them)
19:45
Beth (they/them), 5 years of farming experience split between CA and NY. Learned about schmitta the last shcmitta year! excited to integrate it into farming/project building this time around
Rachel Maureen (she/her)
19:48
Seed and food grower on Monacan land (central Virginia). Know only about as much as was in the conference description, been considering all year how I can honor this tradition, but very limited knowledge
lila she/her
19:49
Lila (she/her), aspiring cooperative land steward / questioning farmer, deep in shmita learning!
Alex Tuchman he/him/his
20:01
Zooming in from Spikenard Farm Honeybee Sanctuary on Tutelo land in Floyd, Virginia, farming and beekeeping for more than a decade, new to learning about incorporating Shmitah into ag. practice
Elliot Moonstone (they/them)
20:21
elliot they/them building relationships with sacred elementals .. learned about shmittah at first farming conference
Rachel Albert, she/her/hers
23:07
help with safety
George Wilde (he/him)
23:09
make it easier for cars
Jennifer Grayson Libman (she/her)
23:11
Prevents members of a society from getting hit by cars!
Shosh (she/they) & Jack (he/they)
23:11
Shaming pedestrians for mussing up car infrastructure
trella : she/they
23:12
protect pedestrians from
shana
23:17
keep people safe from being run over by cars
trella : she/they
23:19
being hit
Sam (they/them)
23:24
Giving the state more ways to arrest people
Lexi Weintraub (she/they)
23:29
jaywalking laws make pedestrians partly responsibility for their own safety
Shosh (she/they) & Jack (he/they)
23:46
Cars are priority
shana
24:57
cars need to check their privilege
Lexi Weintraub (she/they)
25:02
james scott (sociologist) describes jaywalking as an opportunity to practice anarchist calisthenics
lila she/her
25:18
^^^^^^^ yessssss
Shani (she-her)
25:25
Wear a garment with 4 corners
Shosh (she/they) & Jack (he/they)
25:27
wear it during the day
Shosh (she/they) & Jack (he/they)
25:49
to have a reminder/grounding of mitzvot
Elliot Moonstone (they/them)
26:42
protection
Lexi Weintraub (she/they)
27:32
g*ds arms embrace the margins
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
27:51
I love that
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
32:20
I am only looking down because of how many notes I am taking. This is amazing.
Rachel Maureen (she/her)
36:36
Or all the deer...
Alex (he/him)
36:45
Does shmita disproportionally affect farmers?
nina cardin she/her
38:09
usufruct
Shani (she-her)
38:56
7x7
K.Elyza HaLev She.Her
38:57
This is an indigenous understanding or our relationship to land.
leora (they/she) Jews on Ohlone Land, Lisjan Ohlone land
39:07
I’m thinking of how some Indigenous people relate to land through responsibilities rather than rights, and have certain trees or territories that their family or larger group has responsibility to care for and harvest
trella : she/they
39:49
^^
Rachel Maureen (she/her)
41:57
Was the property open to all peoples or only fellow Jews? Were all boundaries dropped or only within the Jewish community?
Tzomi Burkhart
43:19
it is also about debt
Tzomi Burkhart
43:27
all loans are forgiven
trella : she/they
43:28
i'm thinking and feeling into the binary nature of this practice...and how there feels to me, a calling to have a more collective relationship, all the time, much like indigenous folks do...
Tzomi Burkhart
43:42
also keep in mind that most people had crops no matter what their profession
Shani (she-her)
45:03
Like the mana in the desert
Jessie Zelisko (she/her) & Grace (she/her)
45:10
Just to clarify because I feel like this is very striking: So Judaism says that nobody has the right to own land? Even when it’s not Shmitta? It’s only a system of 14 year use rights?
lila she/her
46:33
makes me think about the role farmers hold in community and society to steward/embody/redefine equitable and sacred ways of being in relationship with land.. for others to learn from, both in ancient times and today
Shani (she-her)
46:43
Nina, will you explain what mana is? In case folks don’t know
Shoshana (she/they)
47:47
It's potent to remember that in that first year in that land, the Hebrews were eating food taken from violent displacement of the people who tended the land before them
Tzomi Burkhart
49:16
thank you shoshana
trella : she/they
50:32
^^^
Tamar Goldberg (she/her)
50:37
i wonder if living in such a fertile land set the ratio of 6 years to 1. if the israelites had been in the far ntrth, would they have had more years of working for a year of rest? is there something really universal about the seven year cycle? would they have even needed a reminder about our dependence on land?
Lexi Weintraub (she/they)
51:35
curious to know more in response to shoshanah’s comment about the encounter between jews arriving in israel with those living there already
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
52:30
Shoshana, are you saying the mana was food the Jews were taking from the original inhabitants of Israel, who were already displaced by the Jews??
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
52:39
Haha, yes Lexi
Rachel Maureen (she/her)
52:56
These original displaced peoples are also excluded from Jubilee, since clock is set after that.
lila she/her
53:22
does anyone know of people who have included that element (owning rights to harvest vs. owning the land) in legal agreements / documents for land stewards here?
Shani (she-her)
53:49
And we can hold some for the end too
Rachel Maureen (she/her)
55:05
I think conservation and other easements are one way people make distinction between uses and the land itself.
shana
56:00
its such a blessing to be able to read difficult things and acknowledge their difficulty but also see beauty in them at the same time
lila she/her
56:12
mmm good point, thanks Rachel :)
shana
56:13
something I struggle with
Qais K
57:12
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe shoshana is saying that the first year of shmita is food collected from the work of the farmers that were displaced by the israelites
Ella Schwarzbaum (she/her)
58:58
You touched on this briefly, but was there a means of community accountability?
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
01:00:28
Can you talk about (and maybe you’re already heading there), but in present day contexts, if one is planning to observe Shmitta, how do Jews contend with the realities of these laws not being widely known? By goyish neighbors, indigenous neighbors, let alone fellow Jewish neighbors? I feel like, my animal neighbors and microbial friends may be the only ones who come? Maybe that’s ok? Is what it is for now?
shana
01:00:43
^ When the Israelites first entered the land of their ancient kingdom, they displaced people. I don't think they were regularly displacing people every seven years after that.
shana
01:01:36
true true, its really difficult to do shmita in modern day because doing and still surviving depends on everyone around you also doing it
Jennifer Grayson Libman (she/her)
01:02:06
Isn’t that the basis of modern bankruptcy law?
shana
01:02:07
it requires a whole ecosystem, a whole community, in it together
Sarah
01:07:52
I used to only see the beauty of schmita and now I’m wondering why did there have to be poor in the first place? how could shmita/ag practices be radically imagined to be done with the category of poor
Beth (they/them)
01:08:59
^^^!!!
Rachel Maureen (she/her)
01:10:23
Sarah, yes I have a similar response to the tradition of gleaning -- it is a way to provide for widows, etc. -- who don't otherwise have access to food because of social and legal structures, consolidation of wealth, etc.
Sarah
01:14:26
thanks for that connection rachel. makes me think of charity vs. justice
Tzomi Burkhart
01:14:51
it actually makes me think of how if you keep watering crops with irrigation and never let the land rest and don’t rotate what you are growing, the land will become salivated and depleted. “god removed us from the land for not observing shmita” could also mean that where we were farming became unusable because of poor agriculture, forcing us to migrate. there are many areas in mesopotamia where it is shown this happened thousands of years ago, in some places those lands are still too salinated to support crops
Tzomi Burkhart
01:15:08
salinated not salivated, darn autocorrect
Ella Schwarzbaum (she/her)
01:15:11
thank you for that answer!
Josh Weinstein (he/him)
01:15:49
thank you for the beautiful explanation and for teaching this. these concepts are transformative for how to think about a balanced society. I was wondering what role can shmitta play for thinking about practical near term as well as big picture steps for the United States food system?
Sarah
01:16:31
ooo thank you for this Tzomi
Sarah
01:16:43
wow so many good questions
Sarah
01:21:58
been learning torah my whole life and still so much I have never heard of! truly an ever flowing wellspring
Lex Berman (she/her)
01:22:35
Question from Leroy: Can you talk about (and maybe you’re already heading there), but in present day contexts, if one is planning to observe Shmitta, how do Jews contend with the realities of these laws not being widely known? By goyish neighbors, indigenous neighbors, let alone fellow Jewish neighbors? I feel like, my animal neighbors and microbial friends may be the only ones who come? Maybe that’s ok? Is what it is for now?
shana
01:23:49
yeah. and vice versa is true too- you cant look back on the biblical period and call it capitalism and stuff. it was a completely different framework.
Jennifer Grayson Libman (she/her)
01:26:10
What do we know about the history that led to the creation of Shmita? What did ancient Jews witness that led first to yishuvo shel olam and then the creation of this law?
Lex Berman (she/her)
01:26:17
thank you for the beautiful explanation and for teaching this. these concepts are transformative for how to think about a balanced society. I was wondering what role can shmitta play for thinking about practical near term as well as big picture steps for the United States food system?
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
01:26:19
Thank you
trella : she/they
01:29:28
i think there's possibility around honoring schmita with another cycle of 7- and integrating rotational grazing, gifting days, rotational crops etc....do every 7 days/weeks/months etc
Carole Caplan-Sosin
01:29:54
Thanks rabbi-this has been wonderful
shana
01:30:05
Shabbat as mini seventh-year-of-schmita
Rachel Albert, she/her/hers
01:30:08
This has been so wonderful. SO much to chew on and I’m so grateful
K.Elyza HaLev She.Her
01:30:09
Ya’asher Ko’ach, Nina!!
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
01:30:10
Truly!!!
K.Elyza HaLev She.Her
01:30:18
This has been wonderful!!
Leroy Kite Petunia (they or he)
01:30:21
Ya’asher Ko’ach!!!
Rebecca Goodwin
01:30:25
thank you! 💞
shana
01:30:53
maybe now would be a good time to stop the recording
Lexi Weintraub (she/they)
01:30:58
Yes, thank you, Rabbi Nina for laying the groundwork/ offering seeds for us to co-create a habitable world !
shana
01:31:02
unless its recording all day continuously