
06:38
BTW Happy 5th Bday Ethereum ;-)

07:29
Happy Decentralized Birthday to you! Happy DAO Birthday to youuu! ...

07:35
Brb, still need to find out if Isaac from bloom signed things for us as a co. And happy bday to ETH!

08:04
At Eddie I will check for you now and let you know

08:13
Zexi is new?

08:32
Matt Angelucci?

09:12
hello, we are both just interested in the technology and are here to observe

09:29
The sybil bots are getting /really good/

09:35
Agenda/Attendance link: https://hackmd.io/R9qpmdk4QUuSjDHnU0OwPw

10:44
Eddie looks like Jace has signed the agreement, I will double check after this call though

11:30
Michael Sena rocks!!

12:38
Hey Andreas đź¤

15:18
I'd like to hear about the "downsides" of the EU view toward data sovereignty... as someone from the US, I find it interesting to know what the downsides are (as they're rarely talked about in the US)

15:42
Thanks tobiaslooker!

18:36
What does a My Data Operator operate? Software of some kind? Is there an accepted stack?

19:23
or accepted set of specs? (if not for encryption, but in general)

19:33
yes, +1 to what Dmitri said

19:41
Why would/should a business want to become a MyData operator?

20:28
+1 to Manu/Dmitri’s questions

20:47
Very curious to hear what’s being done today

20:52
Yeah +1 to Manu’s first question very interested to hear the other side of this coin

21:42
@Iain, a minor procedural reminder: these calls are recorded and often listened to without chat, so please read the questions before answering them if you can :D

23:51
What is under the hood of each of the of the 16 is in this link

26:17
ESSIF

26:32
or ESSIF-LAB?

26:38
SDS WG Use Cases document?

26:47
gah... rewriting.

26:58
q+

27:43
So would you say most of the issues are around GDP enforcement?

27:49
*GDPR

28:14
REPLICATION USE CASE addendum: Shrems II-compliant replication LOL

28:33
+100

28:55
@Juan / @Adrian -- have we scanned the My Data use cases that Iain displayed and ensured that we're covering them in our use cases?

29:18
he said he'd email it! I will definitely do this cross-check over the weekend

29:28
Thank you, @Juan! :)

29:39
@Manu No we have not scanned for the use cases

33:46
did someone say test suites?

33:57
bro

34:05
haha

34:45
q+

35:16
can you talk about the end points work/discussion is this how you are thinking about how “interoperability” will happen

37:43
q+ What seem to be the priorities right now for My Data? What are the next series of steps to get to a secure data storage location that interops?

41:15
Yes, that feels very valuable to this community.

41:31
Being able to get perspectives outside of the normal America/EU perspective.

42:02
Manu - I will send the MyData strategy; it is all in the public domain; necessarily so

42:12
great, thank you Iain!

42:24
That was what I wanted to talk about

42:46
did we skip over Juan? We skipped over Juan! :(

42:50
https://twitter.com/mydataorg/status/1245592211334385667

42:56
More to follow https://mydata.org/about/organisation/

44:55
yes, +1

47:12
Layer L, M, N, O, P...

47:15
Yes big +1

47:39
If we had to focus on one thing wrt. My Data coordination, what should it be?

47:57
Or return to my data every time a “instance provider” sees plaintext

48:00
q+ to state "technical specs", "interop tests"

48:04
Including “referenceId"

49:32
MyData coordinated funding cycle here:https://twitter.com/mydataorg/status/1245592211334385667Horizon2020 NextGenerationInternet - Data Portability Services Incubator

49:59
EDVs and Identity Hubs are BOTH data portability services :D

50:20
(indirectly)

50:46
^@Iain, this is what I want your help evangelizing to MyData (partic the DAPSI-involved folks)

51:10
we do have a fairly focused charter for the WG, though. Which I don’t think includes the aspect Adrian is talking about

51:13
That’s fine @juan, we can pick that up off;ine

51:59
Cf also DIF's Interoperability WG, where test suites get made!!!

52:06
(as of three hours ago, hehe)

52:46
CozyCloud and NextCloud are both involved heavily in MyData

52:51
Microsoft is here to eat our lunch :(

53:00
Jk :)

53:09
Good thing I already ate lunch today :)

53:09
Dark humor... :P

53:33
+1

53:39
+1

53:52
Yes, is there a person that would be willing to listen that has influence at My Data (this is probably not how My Data works) :P

54:58
It is not how MyData works; but as I said there are at least 30 MyData active members who are deep in the SSI/ VC Community. We have just not as yet built the bridge to the SDS part of it. That’s the piece they are not aware of.

55:32
ah... that helps

55:48
so, what is the best way to get that conversation started?

56:13
ok, that sounds concrete and actionable, thank you!

56:39
Kaliya, how was that different from the meeting yesterday? Report out?

56:44
This group needs a pitch deck :)

57:16
we have one great diagram

57:21
that's the first half of a pitch deck

58:20
Orie might say even more! I just started attending regularly two months ago :D

59:00
You want my rant about vendor lock in tactics now oe later?

59:11
ok, so concrete next steps are Iain sets up a time for us to chat w/ my data operators... we need to put together a brief pitch deck?

59:24
Where can we found the transscript of todays session URL ?

59:25
yup

59:27
manu: correct

59:48
Iain and I will chat directly, we're in same timezone and I am easy to find in MyData Slack :D

01:00:02
@Ralf - the transcripts get put onto https://dif.groups.io/g/sds-wg/wiki

01:00:35
+1, thank you Iain for talking us through all of this! :) Much appreciated.

01:00:58
Yes, thanks!

01:01:03
Thank you!

01:01:44
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a01GQVtZB7tDVcm9avS8zuYPHQzEEDtTOEh4Bqu-8Bs/edit

01:01:46
^Charter

01:01:58
Yes, sorry any wg members can come and then go to CCG / MyData and get work done.

01:02:04
Yes!

01:02:04
There.

01:02:08
Thanks all, I have high hopes that we can foster a good convergence here. Thanks for all your input.

01:02:34
Thanks