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Andreas Freund
06:38
BTW Happy 5th Bday Ethereum ;-)
Manu
07:29
Happy Decentralized Birthday to you! Happy DAO Birthday to youuu! ...
Eddie Hedges - Bloom
07:35
Brb, still need to find out if Isaac from bloom signed things for us as a co. And happy bday to ETH!
tobiaslooker
08:04
At Eddie I will check for you now and let you know
Manu
08:13
Zexi is new?
Manu
08:32
Matt Angelucci?
Matt Angelucci
09:12
hello, we are both just interested in the technology and are here to observe
Manu
09:29
The sybil bots are getting /really good/
Dmitri Zagidulin
09:35
Agenda/Attendance link: https://hackmd.io/R9qpmdk4QUuSjDHnU0OwPw
tobiaslooker
10:44
Eddie looks like Jace has signed the agreement, I will double check after this call though
Andreas Freund
11:30
Michael Sena rocks!!
Michael Sena
12:38
Hey Andreas 🤠
Manu
15:18
I'd like to hear about the "downsides" of the EU view toward data sovereignty... as someone from the US, I find it interesting to know what the downsides are (as they're rarely talked about in the US)
Eddie Hedges - Bloom
15:42
Thanks tobiaslooker!
Manu
18:36
What does a My Data Operator operate? Software of some kind? Is there an accepted stack?
Dmitri Zagidulin
19:23
or accepted set of specs? (if not for encryption, but in general)
Manu
19:33
yes, +1 to what Dmitri said
Eddie Hedges - Bloom
19:41
Why would/should a business want to become a MyData operator?
Kyle Den Hartog
20:28
+1 to Manu/Dmitri’s questions
Kyle Den Hartog
20:47
Very curious to hear what’s being done today
tobiaslooker
20:52
Yeah +1 to Manu’s first question very interested to hear the other side of this coin
Juan Caballero
21:42
@Iain, a minor procedural reminder: these calls are recorded and often listened to without chat, so please read the questions before answering them if you can :D
Iain Henderson
23:51
What is under the hood of each of the of the 16 is in this link
Juan Caballero
26:17
ESSIF
Juan Caballero
26:32
or ESSIF-LAB?
Manu
26:38
SDS WG Use Cases document?
Manu
26:47
gah... rewriting.
Dmitri Zagidulin
26:58
q+
tobiaslooker
27:43
So would you say most of the issues are around GDP enforcement?
tobiaslooker
27:49
*GDPR
Juan Caballero
28:14
REPLICATION USE CASE addendum: Shrems II-compliant replication LOL
Juan Caballero
28:33
+100
Manu
28:55
@Juan / @Adrian -- have we scanned the My Data use cases that Iain displayed and ensured that we're covering them in our use cases?
Juan Caballero
29:18
he said he'd email it! I will definitely do this cross-check over the weekend
Manu
29:28
Thank you, @Juan! :)
Adrian Gropper
29:39
@Manu No we have not scanned for the use cases
Juan Caballero
33:46
did someone say test suites?
Orie Steele (Transmute)
33:57
bro
Manu
34:05
haha
Juan Caballero
34:45
q+
Kaliya Identity Woman
35:16
can you talk about the end points work/discussion is this how you are thinking about how “interoperability” will happen
Manu
37:43
q+ What seem to be the priorities right now for My Data? What are the next series of steps to get to a secure data storage location that interops?
Manu
41:15
Yes, that feels very valuable to this community.
Manu
41:31
Being able to get perspectives outside of the normal America/EU perspective.
Iain Henderson
42:02
Manu - I will send the MyData strategy; it is all in the public domain; necessarily so
Manu
42:12
great, thank you Iain!
Juan Caballero
42:24
That was what I wanted to talk about
Manu
42:46
did we skip over Juan? We skipped over Juan! :(
Juan Caballero
42:50
https://twitter.com/mydataorg/status/1245592211334385667
Iain Henderson
42:56
More to follow https://mydata.org/about/organisation/
Manu
44:55
yes, +1
Manu
47:12
Layer L, M, N, O, P...
Orie Steele (Transmute)
47:15
Yes big +1
Manu
47:39
If we had to focus on one thing wrt. My Data coordination, what should it be?
Orie Steele (Transmute)
47:57
Or return to my data every time a “instance provider” sees plaintext
Manu
48:00
q+ to state "technical specs", "interop tests"
Orie Steele (Transmute)
48:04
Including “referenceId"
Juan Caballero
49:32
MyData coordinated funding cycle here:https://twitter.com/mydataorg/status/1245592211334385667Horizon2020 NextGenerationInternet - Data Portability Services Incubator
Juan Caballero
49:59
EDVs and Identity Hubs are BOTH data portability services :D
Juan Caballero
50:20
(indirectly)
Juan Caballero
50:46
^@Iain, this is what I want your help evangelizing to MyData (partic the DAPSI-involved folks)
Dmitri Zagidulin
51:10
we do have a fairly focused charter for the WG, though. Which I don’t think includes the aspect Adrian is talking about
Iain Henderson
51:13
That’s fine @juan, we can pick that up off;ine
Juan Caballero
51:59
Cf also DIF's Interoperability WG, where test suites get made!!!
Juan Caballero
52:06
(as of three hours ago, hehe)
Juan Caballero
52:46
CozyCloud and NextCloud are both involved heavily in MyData
Orie Steele (Transmute)
52:51
Microsoft is here to eat our lunch :(
Orie Steele (Transmute)
53:00
Jk :)
Kyle Den Hartog
53:09
Good thing I already ate lunch today :)
Manu
53:09
Dark humor... :P
Manu
53:33
+1
tobiaslooker
53:39
+1
Manu
53:52
Yes, is there a person that would be willing to listen that has influence at My Data (this is probably not how My Data works) :P
Iain Henderson
54:58
It is not how MyData works; but as I said there are at least 30 MyData active members who are deep in the SSI/ VC Community. We have just not as yet built the bridge to the SDS part of it. That’s the piece they are not aware of.
Manu
55:32
ah... that helps
Manu
55:48
so, what is the best way to get that conversation started?
Manu
56:13
ok, that sounds concrete and actionable, thank you!
Manu
56:39
Kaliya, how was that different from the meeting yesterday? Report out?
Manu
56:44
This group needs a pitch deck :)
Juan Caballero
57:16
we have one great diagram
Juan Caballero
57:21
that's the first half of a pitch deck
Juan Caballero
58:20
Orie might say even more! I just started attending regularly two months ago :D
Orie Steele (Transmute)
59:00
You want my rant about vendor lock in tactics now oe later?
Manu
59:11
ok, so concrete next steps are Iain sets up a time for us to chat w/ my data operators... we need to put together a brief pitch deck?
Ralf Knobloch
59:24
Where can we found the transscript of todays session URL ?
Iain Henderson
59:25
yup
Dmitri Zagidulin
59:27
manu: correct
Juan Caballero
59:48
Iain and I will chat directly, we're in same timezone and I am easy to find in MyData Slack :D
Dmitri Zagidulin
01:00:02
@Ralf - the transcripts get put onto https://dif.groups.io/g/sds-wg/wiki
Manu
01:00:35
+1, thank you Iain for talking us through all of this! :) Much appreciated.
Orie Steele (Transmute)
01:00:58
Yes, thanks!
Kaliya Identity Woman
01:01:03
Thank you!
Juan Caballero
01:01:44
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a01GQVtZB7tDVcm9avS8zuYPHQzEEDtTOEh4Bqu-8Bs/edit
Juan Caballero
01:01:46
^Charter
Orie Steele (Transmute)
01:01:58
Yes, sorry any wg members can come and then go to CCG / MyData and get work done.
Balazs Nemethi (DIF)
01:02:04
Yes!
Orie Steele (Transmute)
01:02:04
There.
Iain Henderson
01:02:08
Thanks all, I have high hopes that we can foster a good convergence here. Thanks for all your input.
Balazs Nemethi (DIF)
01:02:34
Thanks