BTW Happy 5th Bday Ethereum ;-)

Happy Decentralized Birthday to you! Happy DAO Birthday to youuu! ...

Brb, still need to find out if Isaac from bloom signed things for us as a co. And happy bday to ETH!

At Eddie I will check for you now and let you know

Zexi is new?

Matt Angelucci?

hello, we are both just interested in the technology and are here to observe

The sybil bots are getting /really good/

Agenda/Attendance link: https://hackmd.io/R9qpmdk4QUuSjDHnU0OwPw

Eddie looks like Jace has signed the agreement, I will double check after this call though

Michael Sena rocks!!

Hey Andreas 🤠

I'd like to hear about the "downsides" of the EU view toward data sovereignty... as someone from the US, I find it interesting to know what the downsides are (as they're rarely talked about in the US)

Thanks tobiaslooker!

What does a My Data Operator operate? Software of some kind? Is there an accepted stack?

or accepted set of specs? (if not for encryption, but in general)

yes, +1 to what Dmitri said

Why would/should a business want to become a MyData operator?

+1 to Manu/Dmitri’s questions

Very curious to hear what’s being done today

Yeah +1 to Manu’s first question very interested to hear the other side of this coin

@Iain, a minor procedural reminder: these calls are recorded and often listened to without chat, so please read the questions before answering them if you can :D

What is under the hood of each of the of the 16 is in this link

ESSIF

or ESSIF-LAB?

SDS WG Use Cases document?

gah... rewriting.

q+

So would you say most of the issues are around GDP enforcement?

*GDPR

REPLICATION USE CASE addendum: Shrems II-compliant replication LOL

+100

@Juan / @Adrian -- have we scanned the My Data use cases that Iain displayed and ensured that we're covering them in our use cases?

he said he'd email it! I will definitely do this cross-check over the weekend

Thank you, @Juan! :)

@Manu No we have not scanned for the use cases

did someone say test suites?

bro

haha

q+

can you talk about the end points work/discussion is this how you are thinking about how “interoperability” will happen

q+ What seem to be the priorities right now for My Data? What are the next series of steps to get to a secure data storage location that interops?

Yes, that feels very valuable to this community.

Being able to get perspectives outside of the normal America/EU perspective.

Manu - I will send the MyData strategy; it is all in the public domain; necessarily so

great, thank you Iain!

That was what I wanted to talk about

did we skip over Juan? We skipped over Juan! :(

https://twitter.com/mydataorg/status/1245592211334385667

More to follow https://mydata.org/about/organisation/

yes, +1

Layer L, M, N, O, P...

Yes big +1

If we had to focus on one thing wrt. My Data coordination, what should it be?

Or return to my data every time a “instance provider” sees plaintext

q+ to state "technical specs", "interop tests"

Including “referenceId"

MyData coordinated funding cycle here:https://twitter.com/mydataorg/status/1245592211334385667Horizon2020 NextGenerationInternet - Data Portability Services Incubator

EDVs and Identity Hubs are BOTH data portability services :D

(indirectly)

^@Iain, this is what I want your help evangelizing to MyData (partic the DAPSI-involved folks)

we do have a fairly focused charter for the WG, though. Which I don’t think includes the aspect Adrian is talking about

That’s fine @juan, we can pick that up off;ine

Cf also DIF's Interoperability WG, where test suites get made!!!

(as of three hours ago, hehe)

CozyCloud and NextCloud are both involved heavily in MyData

Microsoft is here to eat our lunch :(

Jk :)

Good thing I already ate lunch today :)

Dark humor... :P

+1

+1

Yes, is there a person that would be willing to listen that has influence at My Data (this is probably not how My Data works) :P

It is not how MyData works; but as I said there are at least 30 MyData active members who are deep in the SSI/ VC Community. We have just not as yet built the bridge to the SDS part of it. That’s the piece they are not aware of.

ah... that helps

so, what is the best way to get that conversation started?

ok, that sounds concrete and actionable, thank you!

Kaliya, how was that different from the meeting yesterday? Report out?

This group needs a pitch deck :)

we have one great diagram

that's the first half of a pitch deck

Orie might say even more! I just started attending regularly two months ago :D

You want my rant about vendor lock in tactics now oe later?

ok, so concrete next steps are Iain sets up a time for us to chat w/ my data operators... we need to put together a brief pitch deck?

Where can we found the transscript of todays session URL ?

yup

manu: correct

Iain and I will chat directly, we're in same timezone and I am easy to find in MyData Slack :D

@Ralf - the transcripts get put onto https://dif.groups.io/g/sds-wg/wiki

+1, thank you Iain for talking us through all of this! :) Much appreciated.

Yes, thanks!

Thank you!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a01GQVtZB7tDVcm9avS8zuYPHQzEEDtTOEh4Bqu-8Bs/edit

^Charter

Yes, sorry any wg members can come and then go to CCG / MyData and get work done.

Yes!

There.

Thanks all, I have high hopes that we can foster a good convergence here. Thanks for all your input.

Thanks