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2020 Philanthropy Debrief AF - Shared screen with speaker view
Jaime Jovanovich-Walker
23:23
Hi from Moscow, Idaho, Palouse Land Trust. Currently snowing and generally nasty.
Anna Nielsen
23:26
Anna Nielsen, Women's Empowerment in Sacramento, CA
Tina Meetran
23:26
Hello! Tina Meetran, Providence, RI, Painting with watercolor <3 <3
Allison Morris
23:29
Allison Morris (she/her). Good books make me happy
Ron Frick
23:31
Ron Frick at Lycoming County United Way, Williamsport, PA. Happy its nice out in central PA
Mikaela Levons
23:32
I'm Mikaela, in New Jersey, Princeton AlumniCorps and warm oatmilk lattes make me happy!
Danielle Kuhlmann
23:33
Hi! I’m Danielle Kuhlmann, in Seattle, and one thing that makes me happy is CATS
Maria Fumai Dietrich
23:33
This is Ria, Zooming in from Long Island, NY where the weather is AMAZING today. So, super grateful for that.
Gwenia Fiskevold Gould
23:33
Gwenia Fiskevold Gould/Bemidji, Minnesota/Food
Jina Freiberg
23:34
Hi! Jina here from the DC area / Public Welfare Foundation. Fall walks with my dog make me so happy!
Tabitha Gross
23:35
Tabitha from NeighborCare Health in Seattle. Love quality time with family!
Emily Bustos
23:36
Emily Bustos, Denver's Early Childhood Council, grilled cheese
Eric Jacobs
23:36
Hi! I’m Eric from Seattle, and dried chiles make me happy :)
Lee Heck
23:37
Lee, from Seattle, and Cheezits!
Emily Harting
23:38
Emily, Brooklyn/Bed-Stuy, Trump losing
Anna Nielsen
23:41
college basketball!
Casey Hansen
23:41
Casey from Rachel's Network in Happy Valley, OR. Democracy!
Brenda Ray Scott
23:41
Brenda Ray Scott (she / her / hers) in Portland, Oregon. Rainbows make me happy!
Mary Kimball
23:42
Mary Kimball, Executive Director of the Center for Land-Based Learning in Woodland CA. Fall is making me happy!
Emma Hoyle
23:44
Emma from Portland Homeless Family Solutions in Oregon! Reading makes me happy!
Caitlan Cole
23:44
This is Caitlan from Atlanta. Reading makes me happy!
Allison Fabara
23:46
Allison Fabara, Fundraising Consultant in Santa Fe, NM, snuggles with my three year old!
Erika VanDyke
23:48
Erika, Grand Rapids Community Foundation in Michigan- 30 second dance breaks make me happy :)
holley martens
23:48
holley fowler martens. cleveland its 80 degrees here today!
Gretchen Selfridge
23:50
Gretchen Selfridge, Truckee, CA. First snow of the season.
Tracy Lee
23:51
Hi from Washington, DC! Election!
Megan Lundquist
23:51
Hello from Megan at YouthCare in Seattle, WA :) My cat is making me happy this week
Gianna Rendina-Gobioff
23:52
Gianna Rendina-Gobioff, Tampa FL, running
Liliana (She/Her/Ella)
23:52
Liliana Mejía in Chicagoland - time connecting with people makes me happy
Sherre Cullen
23:52
Shere Cullen in Chicago. Biden is President Elect!
Savitha Pathi
23:54
Savitha from Seattle. Very happy about Vice President Auntie :)
sara lueben
23:54
Sara, Minnesota, eating anything delicious
Suki O'Kane
23:55
Suki O’Kane from Pier 27 in The Bay. I like my own pint of French onion dip.
Hannah Klaassen
23:56
Hello! Hannah from Spokane, and I'm happy to be working from home so I get to wear slippers on a snowy day!
Nicole Plastino
23:56
Hi! I'm Nicole Plastino, Tacoma Washington- Coast Salish and Duwamish land. :) I'm digging the rain today.
Marie Murphy
23:57
hi my name is Marie from San Francisco and I am happy for a new day!
Albertina Lopez
23:57
Hello all! My name is Albertina Lopez with the Center for Evaluation Innovation. I am in Pasadena, CA. Hiking makes me happy (and so does the Mandalorian!)
Aaron Dorfman
23:57
Aaron Dorfman, NCRP, Hyattsville MD
Claire Sauvage-Mar
23:57
Hello! Claire Sauvage-Mar from Victoria, British Columbia! Shiny and or fluffy shoes make me extremely happy
Annie Stoneburner
23:59
Annie Stoneburner from Thornton, Colorado (land of the Cheyenne, Arapahoe, and Ute people), Vu's unicorns make me happy
Brie Foresman
23:59
Brie here from DC! The weather is so beautfiul
Angie Chen (she/her)
23:59
hi all! you can find captions at https://otter.ai/v/IBhq8VvYDH4NPtLOxsG9QW7zdbkgauXT
Lindsay Newman
23:59
Lindsay Newman: Crested Butte, CO Fresh cut flowers
Lucy Bernholz
23:59
Lucy, Muwekma Ohlone Land, you two make me happy
Laura Van Zandt
23:59
Laura from outside Boston outside!
Alex Toma (she/her)
24:00
Alex toma in D.C., finally free!
Ayushi Vig
24:02
Hi from the Bay Area! Grateful for time in the sun
Chuck Collins
24:02
Chuck Collins Georgetown Texas, The election!
Jonathas Meireles de Azevedo
24:03
Hi! Jonathas from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil!
Mikaela Levons
24:03
VICE PRESIDENT AUNTIE! Yess!
Hannah Albers
24:05
Hannah Albers (she/hers), Impact1890, Washington, DC -- the sunshine to celebrate a Biden/Harris victory!
Clarissa Unger
24:05
Clarissa from DC & the Students Learn Students Vote Coalition, she/her, Youth turnout!!
Nicole Kyauk
24:06
Nicole in CA! my family makes me happy ;)
Laura Rice
24:07
Hendersonville, NC and happy to be in a new office space! :-)
Danielle Acerra
24:08
Hi! I’m Danielle Acerra with the National Organization for Arts in health. Based in CA but I’m located in CO. Happy that fires are subsiding here and Biden will be our new president!!
Tiffany Roberts
24:09
Tiffany Roberts from Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region in Colorado Springs, CO. Puppies always make me happy!
Joshua Zmroczek
24:09
Josh Zmroczek from Denver, CO. Cocktails make me happy.
STEPHANIE HARRIS
24:10
Stephanie Harris, Bainbridge Chorale Bainbridge Island, WA. Just about everything is making me happy today!
Beth Tigay
24:13
Beth Tigay. ED of FIneshriber Family Foundation. Have been a huge fan of Vu LE since I was a non-profit ED. SO HAPPY THAT WE WON!!!!
Marc Gunther
24:17
Marc Gunther in Bethesda. Progress towards ending the war on drugs.
Brandi Collins-Calhoun
24:18
Brandi Collins-Calhoun (She/Her) National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy - Washington DC...Coffee is making me happy today
Kate Laubacher
24:20
Kate from Boulder, CO. Time spent outdoors makes me happy!
Vera Hoang
24:22
Vera Hoang (she/her/hers). Calling from Coast Salish, Duwamish, Suquamish land (Seattle, WA). Nature - fall leaves are so beautiful right now. :)
Anthony Chang
24:26
Anthony Chang, Kitchen Table Advisors, Northern California. Loved ones and good food.
Dana Vickers Shelley
24:28
Hi Everyone! Dana Vickers Shelley, ACLU of Maryland
Sandra Cisneros
24:32
Sandra, Los Angeles, Cooking a good meal!
Maia Blankenship
24:36
Hi Maia Blankenship here - I'm a Regional Site Entrepreneurs with Wildflower Schools in DC. My 3 year old daughter who has lots to say makes me laugh everyday and reminds me to live in the moment!
Alexa Culwell
24:37
Alexa Cortes Culwell and team at Open Impact
Laura Loe
24:39
Laura Loe (she/her) Share The Cities - Seattle — happy = nopales cactus tacos
Alexandra Taylor
24:49
Alex Taylor (she/her/hers) from Houston, Texas . . . friends are making me happy right now!
Kelly Costa
24:51
Kelly Costa in San Francisco; 
the Biden-Harris win! 
(and potstickers)
Vanyah Harrigan
24:53
Vanyah in Philly, PA! Sunshine and unseasonably good weather
Jill Ultan
24:55
Jill Ultan from Menlo Park, CA. Laughter makes me happy.
Emily Harting
25:07
Woot! Many seasons please.
Akemi Chan-Imai
25:13
Akemi Chan-Imai, Oakland, CA. coffee and warm socks are making me happy today
Angie Chen (she/her)
25:33
hi all, we have captions at this link: https://otter.ai/v/IBhq8VvYDH4NPtLOxsG9QW7zdbkgauXT
Eric Jacobs
25:46
stuffed unicorns make me very happy too!
Danielle Kuhlmann
26:04
YES, Eric!!
Jessie Roth
26:04
Thank you for the accessibility features for this event!
Jamie Carter
26:31
Hey yall! Jamie from Justice Funders here on Ohlone land!
Tina Meetran
26:38
I love y’alls energy !!!!
Beth Tigay
26:52
I am so happy we are all here!
Sarah Ebe
26:55
Sarah Ebe from Patagonia, here in Santa Barbara, CA on Chumash land. Happy about making time for a lunchtime hike today!
Albertina Lopez
27:07
Loving the energy too! Thank you for the lightness :)
Beth Tigay
27:51
Love that show!
Tabitha Gross
27:53
YES - GBBO!!
Angie Chen (she/her)
27:57
if you have questions for vu and crystal, please share them in the q&a
Lee Heck
28:03
Watchmen is worth it, though Sex Education is fantastic!
Annie Stoneburner
28:08
Yas! Star Trek!
Lee Heck
28:08
Michael Burnham!!!
Emily Bustos
28:11
the Queen's Gambit!!!!
Lee Heck
28:21
Spore Drive
Liahann Bannerman
28:37
Great British bake-off totally relaxing but need to check out pottery throwdown!
Mikaela Levons
28:37
Queen's Gambit was great!
Tabitha Gross
28:56
Teenage Bounty Hunter is hilarious!!
Tracy Lee
29:05
Teenage Bounty Hunters is awesome!!!!
Jina Freiberg
29:37
Highly recommend a travel/food show called Somebody Feed Phil (Netflix). Makes me nostalgic of all the travel adventures right now, beautifully shot, funny and earnest!
HEATHER grant
30:22
+1 on Queen’s Gambit
Emily Harting
31:23
Highly recommend Travel Man (for those missing travel) and Peep Show (for those needing raunchy british laughs)
Albertina Lopez
31:41
Why do we have a narrative about it not being okay to converse about politics? It seems like that is making us more partisan. We have to be able to communicate with each other about our differences and similarities.
Suki O'Kane
32:25
^^ so true @albertina thx ^^
Tina Meetran
33:37
Yessssss !
Emily Harting
38:03
ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH LOGIC MODELS
Kimberly Tso
39:55
Great analogy!
Brenda Ray Scott
40:06
The gas analogy is so right!!!!
Courtney Bourns
40:14
Yes! Gas analogy
Jamie Carter
40:22
yesss and a lot of our most vital community members are like "eff it, I'll walk" lol
Becky Davis
40:59
Can someone type the name of that “affect”
Claire Sauvage-Mar
41:05
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Albertina Lopez
41:11
I think part of the issue may be at the field level too: the infusion of “strategic philanthropy” instituting a “norm” in how foundations practice which contributed to power-stealing from community organizations.
Becky Davis
41:14
thank you!
Lucy Bernholz
42:53
+1 Albertina
Jessie Roth
45:08
Yes! And will the reports and restricted funding come back when the pandemic is “over”?
Alexa Culwell
45:14
I love this description and it is apt:
Alexa Culwell
45:16
In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence.As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".[1] Colloquially, people experiencing this bias are said to be "on Mount Stupid".[2][3]
Becky Paugh
48:31
impact is racist bullshit. Why do we have to justify impact in black and brown communities but not when the money is for white orgs (who is asking the symphony for impact data?)
Mark Conley-Buchsieb
48:51
Thank you, Becky!!! YES!
Rosita Lucas
48:58
Still We Rise Fund https://www.commoncounsel.org/still-we-rise-fund/ is a rapid response fund to support weekly grant disbursements to frontline democracy defenders.
Becky Davis
48:58
the symphony! great analogy
Beth Tigay
49:36
Great example…the symphony
Sherre Cullen
50:27
spot on… such important words being spoken!
Jina Freiberg
50:29
!!!!
Alexandra Taylor
50:50
Yes to all of this!
Abby Laine Sienkiewicz
51:04
"I have a dream" "Do you have a logic model?" YES
Caitlan Cole
51:54
How do we convince foundations to adapt when we as grantees are at such a disadvantage in the power dynamic?
Becky Paugh
52:41
Caitlin Cole https://communitycentricfundraising.org/
Jessie Roth
52:54
Yes!! Pleasure activism! To what crystal is saying - recommend adrienne maree brown’s book on this
James Fitzpatrick
53:50
In the UK there are some positive examples of foundations and other funders beginning to change their practice in response to the pandemic (de-restricting funding, etc):https://londoncommunityresponsefund.org.uk/https://www.funderscollaborativehub.org.uk/Encouraged to, and being held accountable by, organisations led by minoritised communities and People of Colour within foundations such as:https://twitter.com/futurefoundsukhttps://twitter.com/CharitySoWhitehttps://www.ubele.org/Hopefully some of the better practices introduced in response to the pandemic will persist beyond it.
Elie Porter Trubert
55:37
Thank you for acknowledging this.
Aaron Dorfman
55:40
Here's my take on some bright spots from philanthropy this year: https://www.ncrp.org/publication/responsive-philanthropy-november-2020/donors-and-foundations-are-increasingly-supporting-movements
Maria Fumai Dietrich
56:38
Thank you for that. <3
Teri McKenzie
58:16
I have been a lifelong activist (40+ years so far) and have taken a PAUSE the past couple of years. I feel guilty sometimes when there is so much work to be done (when isn’t there though?), but I also think it is essential to take time out to BREATHE, REFLECT, and LISTEN to what is being asked of myself/oneself. This is how I intend to be in the good fight for the long haul.
Elie Porter Trubert
01:02:43
Amen!
Andrea Fullerton
01:02:47
PREACH
Laura Loe
01:03:10
SNAPPING LOUDLY AT MY SCREEN
Abby Laine Sienkiewicz
01:03:18
snap snap!
Elie Porter Trubert
01:03:36
So done with grant applications!
Maria Fumai Dietrich
01:04:09
YES!!!!!!!!
Lucinda Mercer
01:04:19
General operating with every foundation using the same format!!!
Megan Francis
01:04:24
“we got 95% of food in the freezer and we are not giving it out” WELLLLLLLLLL
Jennifer Agmi
01:04:41
Such a great conversation! Check out the article Vu Le just referenced on anti-Blackness and CZI and way forward for philanthropy: https://www.ncrp.org/publication/responsive-philanthropy-november-2020/performative-philanthropy-and-the-cost-of-silence
Marjorie Fine
01:05:28
Yes! Increase payout!!!!
Emily Harting
01:05:48
How do we make trustees see this? If not trustees what is the block?
Hannah Albers
01:05:55
LOVE THAT!
Charlyn Anderson
01:06:59
Love this! I always send funders to our Instagram @startingwithtoday to see our programs in action.
Teri McKenzie
01:07:07
Yay Crystal! Yay Libra!
Haewon Asfaw
01:07:18
institutions and boards are buildings made of people. appreciate the note on complicating the way we understand systems change. thinking about the emergent strategy principle of building trust. how do we move people, repair relationships, and rebuild trust as a part of systems change... it would be interesting to see how systems transform themselves through this process
Lina Srivastava
01:07:20
That intellectual capital needs to be supported by resources, too. Philanthropic organizations take intellectual capital from BIPOC-led orgs all the time without financial support. Pay people for showing up to retreats, meetings, and for impact reports (which build the field).
Lucinda Mercer
01:07:23
F the sustainability question
Allison Fabara
01:07:37
AMEN
Molly Conrad
01:07:55
Can y'all start a podcast together?
Vanyah Harrigan
01:07:59
preach!!!
Beth Tigay
01:08:04
Yes to podcast!
Hannah Albers
01:08:08
I'd subscribe!
Molly Conrad
01:08:11
I could listen to hours of this. HOURS.
Marie Murphy
01:08:27
I can make the logo and visuals for the podcast!
Angie Chen | she/her | Libra
01:08:45
@danielle, we are recording! happy you were able to join us, and we can get you the link to catch up
Casey Hansen
01:08:51
Stop the DAF dodgers!
Angie Chen | she/her | Libra
01:08:59
@lindsey, yes! we’ll try to do a roundup of all the links that have been shared
Danielle Kempe
01:09:15
Thanks Angie!
Marjorie Fine
01:09:17
NNG tried. Would be good to learn from progressive philanthropy history.
Lucinda Mercer
01:09:49
I like the distinction between perpetuity and legacy.
Danielle Kempe
01:10:01
I'm originally from Peabody, MA. This is making me smile
Dan Petegorsky
01:10:33
Emergency Charity Stimulus page (to increase payout)https://ips-dc.org/congress-should-pass-an-emergency-charity-stimulus/
Danielle Kempe
01:10:34
I saw that ending coming. ;-)
Becky Paugh
01:11:54
But what feeds the desire to leave a legacy? What is the root of that?
Kelly Costa
01:12:02
Mary Peabody / Robert Hayling https://civilrights.flagler.edu/digital/collection/p16000coll3/search/searchterm/Arrest%20of%20Mary%20Peabody/field/subjec/mode/exact/conn/and
Mark Conley-Buchsieb
01:12:29
https://action.ips-dc.org/a/emergency-charity-stimulus-organizations
Maggie McGoldrick
01:12:33
https://www.ncfp.org/knowledge/death-legacy-and-leadership-transition/
Marjorie Fine
01:12:34
wait-legacy is a bad thing? always? why?
Lina Srivastava
01:12:48
Term limits for foundations? Or move the assets into community-led trusts?
Kimberly Tso
01:12:57
It was never their money to begin with. It should have been taxed and gone through the democratic process for redistribution
Emily Harting
01:13:09
++++++++++++++Kimberly
Caitlan Cole
01:13:21
+1 Kimberly Tso
Marjorie Fine
01:13:29
YAY NCRP. Proud to have been a board member.
Angie Chen | she/her | Libra
01:13:52
here
Lina Srivastava
01:13:52
+1 to Kimberly
Angie Chen | she/her | Libra
01:14:06
here’s the link to that article again: https://www.ncrp.org/publication/responsive-philanthropy-november-2020/performative-philanthropy-and-the-cost-of-silence
Molly Conrad
01:14:08
Yes Kimberly! And how much of this wealth is generationally built on exploitation/land stealing/slavery
Lina Srivastava
01:14:18
Can’t have this conversation fully without talking about extraction or taxation
Becky Paugh
01:14:22
I am not saying the concept of legacy is bad - but it is complex. Especially when white people talk about their “legacy” as it sits with power and influence
Marjorie Fine
01:14:37
Yes!
Becky Paugh
01:15:25
YES. White people have to do the WORK.
Marjorie Fine
01:15:26
North Star Fund iin NYC does this.
Johnny Jenkins
01:16:30
Reposting for attendees... Yes. Another Fascist/Authoritarian leaning leader is coming with a better playbook. Conservative philanthropist and strategist see something that works politically. Progressive funders and activist need to be prepared. We're not.
Maria Fumai Dietrich
01:16:33
Thank you. <3 Thank you. <3
Beth Tigay
01:16:40
Great conversation!
Elie Porter Trubert
01:16:55
Thank you - so refreshing!
Dan Petegorsky
01:17:02
Here's the open letter:https://bipoclednonprofits.org/
Marjorie Fine
01:17:09
Amen!
Beth Hatfield
01:17:38
Love your impromptu conversation! Less prep, more presence! (adrienne maree brown)
Andrea Holthouser
01:17:41
if this is what an impromptu webinar sounds like...it is officially my favorite format!
Courtney Bourns
01:17:56
Thanks for letting us listen to you!
Morgan Whaley
01:19:27
Thank you so much for this conversation!
Lucienne Aggarwal
01:20:47
Thank you for your insight, and informative conversation Vu and Crystal.
Akemi Chan-Imai
01:21:09
Listening to you both actually cured my headache today. Unicorn power is for real!!
Becky Paugh
01:21:14
Bravo Crystal!
Jessie Roth
01:21:16
so much brilliance, thank you! Start the podcast!!
Kimberly Tso
01:21:22
Thanks so much for this discussion!
Teri McKenzie
01:21:23
thank you everyone
Emily Harting
01:21:24
ThANK YOU!
Jonathas Meireles de Azevedo
01:21:25
Thank you so much!
Albertina Lopez
01:21:29
You are both inspiring and energetic. Thank you!!!!
Mark Conley-Buchsieb
01:21:30
Thank you both!
Teri McKenzie
01:21:33
Power to the ppl!
Catherine Schumacher
01:21:34
so grateful, y’all.
Rosita Lucas
01:21:35
You give us hope!
Claire Honsinger
01:21:40
THank you!
Lindsay Newman
01:21:42
Appreciate you.
Laura Van Zandt
01:21:45
incredible conversation. Find joy.
kristen engberg
01:21:46
can’t thank you enough for this!
Suki O'Kane
01:21:46
Thx y’all :: thx attendees!
Beth Tigay
01:21:47
You’re fabulous!
Allison Fabara
01:21:48
Thanks for this conversation! Appreciate you both.
Marjorie Fine
01:21:50
funders make a wellness fund
HEATHER grant
01:21:50
Thank you!!!
Danielle Kempe
01:21:52
Thanks again!
Charlotte Brandin
01:21:57
Thank you!
Savitha Pathi
01:21:59
thank you!
Gianna Rendina-Gobioff
01:22:00
Thank you
Johnny Jenkins
01:22:02
Thank You!!!
Jamie Carter
01:22:02
Thank you so much!!!
Vera Hoang
01:22:05
Thank you!!
Marjorie Fine
01:22:07
Thanky ou to both of you!
Dan Petegorsky
01:22:07
Yay!
Kate Schaffer
01:22:08
Thank you both so much!
Laura Loe
01:22:08
THANK YOU
Emma Hoyle
01:22:11
Thank you !!!