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MTS Women in Marine Technology and Science Ocean Decade Laboratories Virtual Event - Shared screen with speaker view
Joee Patterson
22:50
please give the code again
Amanda Johnston
23:33
Use Menti Code 52 47 718
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
26:24
This is a tough question without a clear definition.
Mary Williams
27:39
Frustrated!!!!!!
Amal Hussain
29:15
Yay Dr. Merchant!
Amanda Johnston
37:23
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Tiffany Straza
37:23
Wendy, your comment about the size/scale and the complexity of the ocean being the big attraction: I totally agree. When I started, I wanted room to explore and make an impact. I’m sure that is still a big draw for women and it’s thrilling that there is still so much ‘room’ in ocean research, tech, and more. Based on my listening in developing countries, young women need to know this but also their families need to know the career opportunities (to trust/support an educational path into marine careers).
Wendy Watson-Wright
40:52
thanks for that Tiffany!
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
42:18
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Narayan Kumar (He/His)
43:15
I am going to join École centrale de Nantes-France as a Master degree student - in Hydrodynamic of ocean Engineering .I am thrilled to know about Ocean and it's interaction through this webinarthank you
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
43:43
Thank you for joining us for the discussion
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
46:04
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Tiffany Straza
46:12
Exactly, like Dr Gibson just said: if you do well in school, you’re pushed to medicine, etc. People want to make an impact, doubly so if they are underrepresented (women, indigenous, and so many more intersecting factors). I’d love to hear more practical examples of how to support young people and their families in trusting the path to ocean careers. (For me, what I’ve seen work is mentorship, having ocean pros engage in school career days, sharing ocean pro’s stories in different fora… A lot of these have a time burden too so I know not all can do this.) Thanks so much for your comments, Dr Gibson!
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
48:39
I loved to fish. I figured out a way to get paid to study and catch fish. Currently, I study Pacific lamprey as biological indicators to marine and riverine health. My path was pretty directed.
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
50:16
Please feel free to drop a question you have for the panelists in the chat
Nikol Damato (she/her)
50:51
To our panelists: What role do you think women and nonbinary folks play in the intersection between ocean science and policy change?
Deidre Gibson
51:49
Thank you Tiffany.
CarolAnne Black
55:44
Thanks, Wendy! Here’s a link to the report: Gender equity in ocean science: amplifying voices, increasing impact https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z4EovFxRVMJzTIrPleSSSUS_SXw8hEnP/view
Zhen Sun
56:36
Thanks for an inspiring panel discussion! There are various studies in the private business sector where gender equality brings direct economic benefits. I wonder if there have been any studies in marine science to show what are the results for bringing more women scientists, especially for women in leadership. For example, how would gender equality improve the research work or decision-making? Thanks.
Dr. Mari Smultea
56:42
in response: promote by offering to present as guest speakers at universities to promote and educate the field and provide personal testimony that there ARE paid jobs and careers out there. So many people don't even know these jobs exist
Dr. Mari Smultea
57:16
especially at college career events
Starla Robinson
58:10
I love the comment about a champion.
Dr. Mari Smultea
58:46
yes, need to connect mentors with budding scientists
Reagan T Gibson
59:43
I love the idea of a support system with all types of marine science careers. It is so important to have an interdisciplinary understanding of the ocean because it is so vast and complicated!
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
01:00:02
Please consider joining our LinkedIn GroupWomen Leadership in Marine Technology and Science (https://www.linkedin.com/groups/8983927/)
Tiffany Straza
01:01:42
I worry about the burden of mentorship: asking underrepresented people to take on this extra work; also maintaining separation, in a way. Yes, we do need and want to connect with those ‘like us’. But I also want to see the highest-status people truly engage and mentor those different. For diversity to really serve, we need to make those cross-connections. But the potential mentors need to learn both why and how they must engage. Most mentoring initiatives I know fizzle due to lack of engagement. Do you think policies (national or institutional) and data-based measures (translation into parity numbers, financial costs, etc.) are the only way to engage those late-career experts into this ‘new’ topic for them?
Joee Patterson
01:02:54
This is an excellent point Tiffany!
Deidre Gibson
01:04:15
Good point. I do it because there are very few people, I don’t feel that it is a burden.
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
01:04:43
My graduate professor and CDFG boss told me if I going to make it in marine fisheries then I had better develop the hide of a rhino!
Narayan Kumar (He/His)
01:05:32
Bias existing but how we will mitigate at workplace without being affected by it ??
Dr. Mari Smultea
01:07:04
I mentor a few at a time, and make time. Every little bit counts I believe
Shakila Merchant
01:07:52
parents can be lifelong mentors in most cases!!
Joee Patterson
01:07:55
Cynthia : This in some ways reflects what Tiffany is getting at - Why do we teach the new generation to "have the hide of a rhino" rather than teaching the senior generation to accommodate the requirements of a changing culture?
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
01:08:30
Hopefully, we are...
Annie Biron
01:09:57
we need to make awareness that the baystander effect (not reacting) is negative. Everybody need to understand they are part of the solution, and speeking up in the moment is necessary.
Annie Biron
01:10:45
bystander not baystander...
Tiffany Straza
01:11:05
That’s a great point. Living this work out loud is itself a form of mentoring. (and in many cases, that alone takes bravery.)
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
01:12:17
BINGO, Deidre!
Amanda B Johnston
01:13:00
Yes. Thank you for sharing that. This is very important. Especially as a woman of color in this field
Mary Crawford
01:13:05
As an early woman in the Navy, I relate to all of the comments. I have seen mandated mentorships fail, have also been expected to develop "rhino hide", and saw my organization go through multiple iterations of learning to change our culture. In my 28 year career, I felt that finding my champions, doing my job to the best of my ability and asking for help when I needed more than I knew. Numbers do change the culture. I had the pleasure of seeing more younger women in important roles by the end of my career. I agree with Deidre Gibson.
Erin Keen
01:13:09
100% agree that the bystander effect is a huge issue in both field work and non-field work related ocean jobs.
Tiffany (she.her)
01:14:38
Yes hustle hustle. congrats to all of you. haters are your motivators. exactly!
Starla Robinson
01:15:37
<3
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
01:16:09
Menti.com52 47 71 8
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
01:16:13
Please consider joining our LinkedIn GroupWomen Leadership in Marine Technology and Science (https://www.linkedin.com/groups/8983927/)
Tiffany (she.her)
01:17:25
please place the code in the chat.
Amanda Johnston
01:17:52
5247718
Zhen Sun
01:22:53
From DFO-WMU Empowering Women for the Ocean Decade Programme: all are welcome:
Zhen Sun
01:22:56
https://www.wmu.se/events/webinar-the-people-we-need-for-the-ocean-we-want
Andi White
01:23:05
I actually added today's speakers (and you Zdenka) to the list of potential Wiki edits at the event tomorrow. Hope to see you all there!
Lindsey Loughry
01:23:51
Can you add the registration link for the edit-a-thon to the chat?
Amanda B Johnston
01:24:10
https://www.wmu.se/events/webinar-the-people-we-need-for-the-ocean-we-want
Amanda B Johnston
01:26:01
Sorry it is 7pm in Ireland and I have to pop out for another call. Thanks for a really interesting session. Best of luck with the rest of the meeting.
Tiffany Straza
02:08:40
Fantastic point about needing support mechanisms for people who come in if the ‘attraction mechanism’ to bring people into these fields works.
Aoh hill
02:08:55
sorry I was making a smoothie
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
02:11:05
If we don't see people that "look" like us or have our shared experience(s) then we don't see how to get there or if we can be there....
Lindsey Loughry
02:13:49
I will be compiling information from the breakout discussions for future events. If you have notes you’d like to share, please email them to Lindsey.Loughry@MTSociety.org
Joee Patterson
02:14:23
EXACTLY!
Tiffany (she.her)
02:14:32
EXACTLY!!!
Annie Biron
02:14:41
I agree!
Aoh hill
02:14:43
👆👆
Dr. Mari Smultea
02:16:19
I took an online course helping women recognize their strengths as leaders in a male-dominated setting and it really helped me. Here is the course I took but there are lots others out there. https://aveycoach.com/
Aoh hill
02:16:45
wow Kristin lookin sexy!
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
02:18:51
Please consider joining our LinkedIn GroupWomen Leadership in Marine Technology and Science (https://www.linkedin.com/groups/8983927/)
Aliya L Jamil
02:19:52
Not appropriate @Aoh
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
02:19:54
We will collect all the questions from the chat and post to the MTS site:https://www.mtsociety.org/women-leadership
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
02:20:56
And we will post summary notes from all the break out rooms on the site as well
Cheryl Peach
02:21:34
Aoh left. Thanks for flagging Aliya.
Liesl Hotaling (she/her)
02:21:59
Yes, was taking care of that in the background. Sorry to all.
Erin Keen
02:24:16
Thank you @LieslHotaling - sad that even webinars/virtual events can have issues pop up similar to issues most of us experience in our careers sometimes...
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
02:28:45
Dr. Wendy brought up the importance of "changing behaviors results in changes in altitudes". This is an actionable action.
Erin Keen
02:29:28
Before we close - could one of the speakers call out and publicly demonstrate verbally to the group that the action in the chat that occurred (while small it may be) is not okay?
Tiffany Straza
02:29:36
Be supportive of the choices that an individual makes: this is such a good point. This also links to my concern about telling young women that they have to be hard, have to hustle, have to repress parts of their identify that don’t work well in such-and-such field/situation. Let’s accept the diverse realities people are displaying within this work.
Shakila Merchant
02:30:51
Roberto thanks for joining - :)
Roberto A Arias
02:31:06
Thank you guys! The panel was very informative. :)
Deidre Gibson
02:31:17
I agree, we should be who we are, and not be driven to be hard, but how do we do that?
Carly Quisenberry
02:31:43
This was wonderful! Thank you so much!!
Cynthia Le Doux-Bloom
02:32:09
Thank you all.
Maya Canonizado
02:32:12
Thank you for the wonderful discussions and boost of confidence :)
Jess Ackerman
02:32:26
Many thanks!
Nafisa Furniturewala
02:32:30
This was so helpful! Thank you very much!
Erin Keen
02:32:38
Thank you!
Reagan T Gibson
02:32:38
Thank you!!
Mitchelle Agonsi
02:32:40
Thank you very much
Deidre Gibson
02:32:41
Thank you, it was a great panel.
Jamee Johnson She/Her
02:32:46
THanks for the opportunity to participate!
Jackie Veatch (she/her)
02:32:47
Thank you!!
Hannah James
02:32:48
Thank you everyone! This was wonderful, I look forward to future events!
Tiffany Straza
02:32:54
Thank you for today’s discussion!
Cheryl Peach
02:33:32
Thanks everyone!