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Wednesday Webinar: Dr Emma Palmer on digital technology in prisons - Shared screen with speaker view
DMoffett
16:40
Hi, I am Deirdre from HMP Maghaberry.
Richard Booth
17:00
Afternoon All. Richard Booth, ILT Coordinator Shrewsbury Colleges Group and Project lead for Erasmus project developing Augmented Reality resources to support offender learners
Elena White
17:10
Hi everyone, I am Elena White a Social Enterprise Trainer at HMP Kirklevington Grange
maxine
17:11
Hi, I’m Maxine Deakin from HMPYOI Swinfen Hall.
Joanne Goodfellow
17:24
Hello. I’m Joanne, Northern Ireland Prison Service.
Lewis Anns
17:28
Hi, I am Lewis from Meganexus and manage/support the Virtual Campus 2 solution in Custody and Community.
Phil Abbas
17:51
Hi all Phil Abbas HMP Ranby & CRC DLNR. ST Giles Trust.
James Tweed
17:56
Hi everyone. James Tweed from Coracle Inside here. Be delighted to talk to anyone about the laptops we’ve got in-cell (across 19 prisons)
Karen
17:56
Hi from me, Karen from Shannon Trust
Jemma Watkiss
18:13
Hello. I'm Jemma from HMP Hewell.
jo_sharp
18:23
Hi Jo Sharp HMP Isis :)
Martin Woolven
18:47
Hi all,
Helena, Prisoner Learning Alliance
18:47
Hi all, Helena from Prisoner Learning Alliance here. It's great to have so many people joining us. If you would like to join our upcoming working group meeting on digital technology in prison education, please send me an email to info@prisonerlearningalliance.org.uk
P Jam
18:52
Hi Paul from HMP Pentonville
Mo Begum
18:58
Hi, I'm Mo from Novus- Lancaster Farms
MM McCabe
18:58
Hi, I’m MM McCabe from the charity Philosophy in Prison
Richard Wakelin
19:06
Afternoon all - Richard Wakelin here, Regional Quality Manager for Novus.
Alison Trueman
19:07
Hi everyone, I'm Alison, an IAG from HMP Leeds
James Levy
19:13
Hello, I’m James Levy of Socrates Software, we provide a locked down tablet platform for use in prisons.
Jayne Salford
19:14
Hi is it possible to record so I can share with other colleagues who are in prison today
Rosw
19:18
Hi I am Rose Carter from CXK IAG provider Kent Surrey Sussx
ANTOK KURNIYAWAN
19:22
Hello, I am Antok Kurniyawan from Correctional Academy, Indonesia.
Tom Schuller
19:23
Hello, I’m Tom, chair of PLA
Martin Woolven
19:23
Opps click return before I finished - I'm Martin from Novus
Gail
20:25
Hi ItsGail from HMP Liverpool
Patrick Traynor
20:36
Hi I'm Patrick the Maths Tutor at HMP Chelmsford
Dawn Bury
21:05
Hi Everyone, I'm Dawn, IT Tutor at HMP Low Newton
Elizabeth Catarino
21:19
Hi, I'm Liz from HMP YOI Isis
Michael M
21:43
Michael, from HMP Brixton
Paul R
21:52
Hello. I’m Paul teacher from HMPLiverpool
Karol Bak, Core Systems
21:55
Hi I'm Karol from Core Systems, we develop and deliver prisoner self-service technology
FOB
22:39
Hi Everyone, Nnamdi Efobi here Sector Expert
Ben Leapman - Inside Time
23:48
Hi, all of you. I'm Ben Leapman from Inside Time, the prisoners' newspaper
Jo
23:51
Hi im Jo, im a public health specialist and I have a loved one in prison
Gavin Rice
24:36
Hi everyone. I'm Gavin Rice from the Centre for Social Justice think tank, currently working on a policy paper on digital access in prisons.
Melanie Jameson
25:30
I'm Melanie Jameson, with a specialism in dyslexia and related ND conditions in CJS settings
Helena, Prisoner Learning Alliance
26:47
We will have time for questions, so please do post your questions here or send them to Ruth McFarlane directly throughout the webinar
Talat Khan
28:02
Hi, Talat Khan here, from AdvantageSEND consulting. I am SEND Consultant.
John Samuels
28:39
Welcome as this survey has been, I should like to hear to what extent MoJ have displayed similar interest in the facilitation of EDUCATION in prison through digital technology?
Ruth McFarlane
30:23
Great question, thank you
jo_sharp
35:03
I would also like to know how this will link to the impact of Education within the cells, in light of the last 6 months and support moving forward
Richard Booth
37:37
Increase of Digital Technology for educational use and in-cell use is much needed. I feel that the urgency for this by staff and for learners is very overdue
Jo
38:13
Are there prisoners who have phones but cant use them as their capacity to pay for them. Call rates are still very high. 40ppm to mobiles. Or 20ppm if you sign up to certain systems. Any thoughts about the investment in cheaper calls for mental health and relationship benefits
Richard Booth
38:59
Prisoner voice mail system certainly reduces the call expense for prisoners and families
John Taaffe
40:38
I take it that the laptops don't have internet access, is that correct?
Jo
41:25
Was this research done before or during covid restrictions (23. 5 hours lockup)?
Ruth McFarlane
41:46
Hi Jo, the research was done in 2018
Richard Booth
41:49
Laptops don't have internet access, just internal
Jo
42:33
Would be gkid tk co pare bt rates
John Taaffe
42:56
My experience is that learners who are doing distance learning would really appreciate access to a laptop with word and the VC if possible.
Jo
43:13
Sorry. Wihld be good to look at the bt call data in covid esp samaritans
Richard Booth
43:39
I think VC is available for those with in-cell laptops and software such as Word, etc.
Jayne Salford
44:41
VC is not available on in-cell laptops
John Taaffe
44:42
Again, I assume laptops would only be available in Cat C or D?
Gavin Rice
45:06
MoJ told me a problem is absence of broadband infrastructure in the state prisons (there is broadband in the private ones), so digital functionality mostly offline. Even staff don't have proper access to e.g. video conferencing. Video calls can only happen with laptops plugged into limited data points in the prison, not in-cell or in visiting area.
Richard Booth
45:31
I think VC is due to be available for in-cell laptops?
mbennett
45:44
Hello, would Emma be able to share her findings on use of laptops or chrome books for in-cell learning please? Maxine from Milton Keynes College
Richard Booth
46:50
With my project, I am trying to get mobile devices approved for use, longer-term in-cell. But first use in classrooms. WiFi and secure networks are needed for innovative uses of technologyin the long term.
Jayne Salford
46:52
Not to my knowledge Richard
John Taaffe
46:56
Access to video calls would be good for OU tutor contact.
John Taaffe
47:43
No Wifi in HMP Birmingham
John Taaffe
48:40
Kiosk is useful for CMS contact with prisoners.
John Taaffe
50:32
Many prisoners in HMP Birmingham are not allowed access to technology because of their offending history.
Jo
52:22
Is there a way to limit search/intenret access so it can only used for educational reasons? And opportunity for zoom type calls /webinars like this. In cells or in groups even.?
John Taaffe
53:24
Jo, there is the VC - cut down version of web.
Richard Booth
53:27
Hi Jo - There is a way to limit internet access, but using web security software, but needs introducing across prison institutions.
Lewis Anns
53:39
Hi Jo, there is certainly technology out there to manage these types of features.
Richard Wakelin
54:27
Examples of this are in the youth justice estate, at the STC's for example where there is white listed internet being tested.
John Taaffe
54:32
My concern is that trying to limit web access could be overcome by IT experts in the prison estate!
MM McCabe
54:51
It would be brilliant to be able to run zoom seminars in cell, for small groups. Lots of the security problems of running f2f courses would be circumvented, too.
Jo
55:29
Yes as well as covid risks
John Taaffe
56:03
There are people in prison with amazing levels of programming and hacking skills - that is why many are in there!
MM McCabe
56:04
Yes, quite. It would make such a difference, wouldn’t it, to the desperate conditions of lockdown?
Helena, Prisoner Learning Alliance
56:16
It's also possible to pre-download educational websites and materials and create an internet simulation - everything's offline (so only the downloaded web pages can be accessed) but it looks like you're using the internet
jo_sharp
56:30
What is the scope of Prisoners TV as a digital tool?
Richard Booth
56:50
Thank you Emma!
sarah
56:57
thank you
jo_sharp
56:58
Thank you
John Taaffe
57:11
Yes Helena, that sounds like the VC.
MM McCabe
57:28
But in a webinar the interaction with the course leader is dynamic and responsive; and for lots of educational things that is essential.
Elena White
57:46
Thank you Emma :)
MM McCabe
58:00
Thank you Emma, that was really informative.
maki zaenudin 140651784
58:11
thank you Emma
nigel
01:00:07
Does this early implementation of digital technology within prisons pre-empt a re-think of the methodology of the delivery of prison education?
Jo
01:00:14
Agree John. We are wasting valuable time to support residents to improve their lives.
Phil Abbas
01:08:01
Thanks Emma
Gavin Rice
01:10:26
The CSJ is hoping to produce a piece of policy work that will shift the government in this area and we are very interested in any existing research, case studies, evidence, anecdotes and /or input from people with experience in this area that we can marshal. If you would like to get in touch my email is gavin.rice@centreforsocialjustice.org.uk
Jo
01:11:23
As a public health professional I would say the Public health england should be leading this work, is anyone working with them to raise the barriers. Its a classic case of early investment in broadband in lriosns would save money later down the line .
Steph Ellis
01:11:24
we have scanning pens within the prison which help those with low literacy but they are now with held by security
Helena, Prisoner Learning Alliance
01:11:27
As Ruth mentioned and I mentioned earlier, we're currently organising a working group meeting for the Prisoner Learning Alliance's digital technology working group. Please send an email to info@prisonerlearningalliance.org.uk if you would like to join.
MM McCabe
01:11:38
Perhaps the MOJ might reflect on the way that some of the health and security problems confronting the prison estate in ‘normal’ times would be made really a great deal easier (subject to getting the on-line security sorted) in these times.
Jo
01:14:15
Agreed
Patrick Traynor
01:14:27
As a prison maths tutor it will be great to see prisoners to have access to further and higher education, especially under the lockdown conditions. There's lots of free courses online to extend their learning,. when the internet security is in place.
Iran Duarte
01:14:46
If the word "cheaper" is emphasized, I'm sure MoJ will go with it
Jo
01:15:04
Its an invest to save argument
James Levy
01:15:30
Socrates provides secure offline tablets for interactive learning, only currently allowed in 3 HMP’s.
Helena, Prisoner Learning Alliance
01:18:12
I think that point's also supported by one of Emma's earlier slides on autonomy and personal responsibility
DMoffett
01:18:16
Thank you Emma
Jo
01:18:20
Effective adult education would be flexible as you describe donna..
Jo
01:18:23
Thanks everyone
sarah
01:18:32
thanks
Ben Leapman - Inside Time
01:18:34
Thank you Emma
jo_sharp
01:18:35
Thank you to everyone very informative.
Talat Khan
01:18:38
Thank you Helen, Ruth and Emma.
Rod Clark PET
01:18:38
Thank you Emma, Ruth and everyone joining in today
Jane Icke
01:18:43
thank you for your presentation today
Gavin Rice
01:18:52
Thank you, Emma.
John Taaffe
01:18:56
Unfortunately, most Governors are most interested in security, and so access to technology, and education in general, is low priority.
Jayne Salford
01:19:02
Where can we get a copy of the recording?
Elizabeth Catarino
01:19:03
Thank you
yosief negassi
01:19:06
Thanks
Patrick Traynor
01:19:09
That was great thanks to Emma and all.
markh
01:19:13
thanks very interesting
John Taaffe
01:19:15
Thank you!
Phil Abbas
01:19:20
Thanks also to Helena and Ruth.
Richard Booth
01:19:20
Thank you!
maxine
01:19:23
Thank you Emma, really interesting research findings.
Helena, Prisoner Learning Alliance
01:19:26
Thank you very much everyone for joining
Lewis Anns
01:19:30
Thank you to all.
MM McCabe
01:19:32
That was a really helpful session, thank you, PLA, for making it happen.
Gail
01:19:34
Thank you Gail HMP Liverpool
Alison Trueman
01:19:48
Thank you, Emma, Ruth and Helena, and to everyone else who made any comments. Very interesting and worthwhile.
Nnamdi Efobi
01:19:58
A great session. very interesting and informative