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Career Planning for Instructional Designers-Webinar - Shared screen with speaker view
Jennifer Marcolongo
35:21
Hi! Jennifer Marcolongo here, been in ISD and edtech for over a decade.
Amy Schack
35:32
Wecome GA & RI!
Heather Myers
35:32
Hi, I'm Heather Myers and I'm from MA. I work as an ID in RI.
Kristin Marengo
36:04
Good Afternoon - Kristin Marengo MA
Adam Nemeroff
36:27
Roughly a decade ago...
Stephanie Payzant
37:46
Hello from Delaware! I work remotely for Post University in CT as the Director of Instructional Design.
Edward O'Neill
38:48
Designers…became coders…of necessity.
Edward O'Neill
39:42
The context: higher ed. Different job titles…division of labor.
Edward O'Neill
42:21
Thanks Carole! Good lighting....
Adam Nemeroff
43:27
I don’t love that metaphor. Lots of embedded metaphors and power there. Realistically we’re collaborators on an even level.
Edward O'Neill
44:23
Which metaphor Adam? Surgeon and critical care nurse?
Edward O'Neill
45:20
Needs assessment!
Stephanie Payzant
46:06
Backward design skills
Jennifer Marcolongo
46:21
Flexibility, compassion, outside box thinking.... YES ON NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT
Edward O'Neill
46:23
Agreed, Stephanie.
Edward O'Neill
46:45
The backwards design goes to needs and assessment.
Jennifer Marcolongo
46:54
@stephanie - yes, and content/assessment mapping to outcomes
Stephanie Payzant
47:11
@Jennifer - exactly! That is one of the first steps in our design process
Edward O'Neill
47:30
And I hear people saying: alignment. Institutional goals, project goals, getting the data.
Jennifer Marcolongo
47:41
Same, @Stephanie! Course developers don't always love it, but it is necessary!
Stephanie Payzant
48:16
We can trace most of the issues with our designs back to that initial roadmap where the alignment was not correct.
Edward O'Neill
48:27
And analyzing data assumes you’ve got something you’re measuring….
Edward O'Neill
48:47
Exactly, @Stephanie.
Jennifer Marcolongo
49:19
Totally, and as we redevelop courses we start there as well. That, and time on task.... that is another big one, the ability to closely estimate time on task and then analyze that information to ensure there is an appropriate balance specific to that subject area, course level, program level, etc.
Stephanie Payzant
49:31
80% is building relationships!
Edward O'Neill
50:34
Building and managing relationships.
Edward O'Neill
51:30
And data goes to assessment and design. What will the learners do that shows they have learned?
Edward O'Neill
00:52:01
Building and managing relationships.
And data goes to assessment and design. What will the learners do that shows they have learned?
Edward O'Neill
52:21
And we’re doing this when some are saying “let’s stop grading.”
Edward O'Neill
52:31
I always say “listening is my power skill.”
Edward O'Neill
54:16
As ID’s we can always say ‘this is a good ONLINE course’—as if we’re not judging anyone’s on ground course....
Edward O'Neill
55:23
Jennifer: tracking one’s time is indeed a skill. It can take some time to get good at it. Let alone estimating how much time a given task will take.
Jennifer Marcolongo
56:35
We use the RICE University time on task estimator to help guide us, as well as Midterm Student Surveys which I developed in an effort to ask students midterm to tell us how much time they think they are spending per task to date.
Adam Nemeroff
57:39
I think a lot of those job descriptions related to a certain underlying professionalized body of knowledge where people are adaptive — and institutions have needs as well specific to their context.
Edward O'Neill
58:39
@Sribhagyam: If a course is designed for sync and async elements, some of the sync elements can be on-ground, if that possibility opens u.
Jennifer Marcolongo
59:18
How important is a graduate degree in ISD? I only have my BA (in Communication Arts and Psychology of course ;-) ) and have not had a need to pursue an MA. I find in the job searches, experience often outweighs degrees... is that accurate to say?
Heather Myers
59:19
My Master in ID is titled Learning Design & Technology
Edward O'Neill
59:31
Manulito: there are such certificates. If you look up “instructional design competencies” you might be able to show you’ve done all those things.
Jennifer Marcolongo
59:41
But I have been doing this for 10+ years.... at this point I am unsure if an MA would be worth it. ROI ?!? :-)
Edward O'Neill
01:00:02
I have a Ph.D. in the humanities—and not a grad degree in ID, just a single course.
Edward O'Neill
01:00:29
Some of those skills are not well paid, sadly.
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:01:57
Make a word cloud!
Edward O'Neill
01:02:26
@Manulito. Great! And online programs have jobs for academic resource managers.
Heather Myers
01:04:29
I take courses on Adobe Education Exchange once or twice a year to learn new technology skills or new platforms. They are free and fun.
Edward O'Neill
01:05:28
Whatever you have done can also be persuasively packaged for a particular employer.
Stephanie Payzant
01:05:49
We require Masters degree in Education or Instructional Design
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:06:16
I am a Lead Instructional Designer for the college I work for, and only have the BA. But, again, I have been doing this for a decade. I have been developing, assessing online courses and training faculty for that amount of time as well. I just don't know at this point if it would be useful for me...
Edward O'Neill
01:06:38
@Jennifer Experience counts!
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:06:58
Thanks, @Edward!
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:08:05
Haha, yes, I started as a student support staff member for Blackboard.
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:08:19
Not for the Bb corp, for a small community college.
Edward O'Neill
01:11:47
@Manulito. I would look at job ads. But take it with a grain of salt.
Edward O'Neill
01:12:06
If you have experience working with faculty as a librarian and plugging electronic resources into the LMS, that’s an advantage.
Peter Shea
01:14:08
Carole, yes I felt the frustration of the isolation as well. It is often compounded by working with people who don't understand what it is exactly what we do.
Edward O'Neill
01:14:08
@Jennifer They’re probably underwater now.
Andrea Milligan
01:14:26
https://onlinelearningconsortium.org/
Peter Shea
01:14:57
Yes, the Serious Play Conference is virtual this summer.
Peter Shea
01:15:56
I also recommend the Immersive Learning Research Network Conference--its virtual in June.
Heather Myers
01:16:19
OLC accelerate in Nov.
Edward O'Neill
01:16:26
How often would you like to connect with fellow professionals?Synch or asynch?Some preferred tool? Email? Slack?
Peter Shea
01:16:45
Also my groups...
Peter Shea
01:16:56
Facebook Instructional Designers in Education
Mish McIntyre
01:16:58
Educause has a slack group
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:17:04
1 - Monthly, 2 - Both, by asynch is likely more doable, 3- no preference on how
Peter Shea
01:17:10
LinkedIn Data-Informed Instructional Design
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:17:24
*but not by
Edward O'Neill
01:17:26
NECOMP COP!
Edward O'Neill
01:17:31
topic-centric
Rachel Levin
01:18:03
Slack is preferred for me for asynch. Either monthly or quarterly for a more structured, synch connect time.
Edward O'Neill
01:18:14
Drop-in hours….
Kristin Marengo
01:18:25
Monthly, sync and having these COP meet ups
Heather Myers
01:18:37
Once or twice a month for connections either sync or asnyc. Slack if people are using it. My email gets overloaded.
Edward O'Neill
01:19:02
I hear you about email, @Heather....
Mish McIntyre
01:19:25
IDs in RI meet at RITL each month
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:20:05
Y cubed :-) (Yes to all!)
Edward O'Neill
01:20:23
Thanks, @Jennifer.
Rachel Levin
01:20:37
1. N 2. Y 3. Y
Heather Myers
01:21:00
How do you get involed with RIDDLE?
Mish McIntyre
01:21:08
RITL
Heather Myers
01:21:32
Thanks!
Edward O'Neill
01:21:47
There’s no arty origin story about Riddler!
Mish McIntyre
01:22:30
mmcintyre@ccri.edu
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:22:33
If one is thinking about starting some part time consulting, what would you recommend as the first, second, third top things they should do?
Edward O'Neill
01:22:38
Please connect with me on LinkedIn….https://www.linkedin.com/in/learningtech/
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:24:29
Thank you, @Edward! I have done a lot of volunteer for my kiddo's schools during this remote, haha :-) Hard not to "help"! Thank you @Peter!
Edward O'Neill
01:24:30
I’ve published on Educause.
Edward O'Neill
01:24:43
@Jennifer. That is much needed and valued.
Stephanie Payzant
01:26:06
We use Adjunct Designers periodically. Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn.
Edward O'Neill
01:26:35
I’m hitting up Stephanie P!
Jennifer Marcolongo
01:26:39
@Peter, I have been thinking about reaching out to the other school districts than mine... My son's teacher has suggested it as well because I am always offering her tons of support! Thank you for all these ideas!
Kristin Marengo
01:26:54
thank you
Amy Gentile
01:26:59
Thank you!
Heather Myers
01:27:41
Thank you all!
Edward O'Neill
01:27:41
Thank you for sharing your experiences and questions.
Mish McIntyre
01:27:53
Here’s Loop
Mish McIntyre
01:27:54
https://www.edsurge.com/higher-ed
Peter Shea
01:27:55
Thank you all for attending. :)
Kristopher Wiemer
01:28:19
Thank you!