
01:33:39
For those just joining - we are recording

01:35:01
Welcome all. If you could just change your name on the screen to say if you are a union member and which area you are from. Thanks.

01:38:30
Welcome Rich, we've only just started.

01:40:34
Welcome Jim - Carla has only just started speaking - we are recording.

01:40:38
Welcome Jim. Our first speaker, Carla, has just started her presentation.

01:43:17
I got involved in divestment through Quakers also

01:45:36
Welcome Fi. Our first speaker is giving her presentation. We are recording the session. If you could change your name to say if you are a union member and which area that would be great. thanks.

01:50:51
The percentage is low in part because the shares have fallen so far in value over the past decade... )-:

01:51:36
(NB relatively)

01:56:02
Engagement has two meanings in this conversation:1. Workers engaging with their pension fund and employers.2. The pension fund engaging with companies, particularly with fossil fuel companies.1. WORKS 2. DOESN'T

02:01:43
desperate skills shortage in green jobs

02:08:02
BUT Disinvestment was critical in stopping Apartheid in SA, including from companies. What would the fallout be if we simply explained that chosing where we, including through corporations is a moral and legal act? Is that wrong?

02:08:33
would be good to use anti russian feeling to get off gas full stop (UK gas prices are determined by global markets)

02:10:15
Pin to Gareth's video to see him

02:11:03
Sorry I have to nip off to my next meeting. Apologies to you all and the other speakers particularly those I have not been able to hear in full. Solidarity to you all.

02:11:12
or go to gallery

02:11:23
thank you Roger

02:11:35
thank you roger!

02:21:17
Link to Unite's dedicated microsite: https://www.learnwithunite.org/environment/

02:21:55
How we can change the economy through green investment decisions, maximising job creation and putting workers front and centre:https://www.unitetheunion.org/media/3659/9358_plan-for-green_a4_6-4.pdf

02:38:29
Thanks to all speakers for this interesting and thought-provoking meeting. Apologies for having to leave early.

02:38:47
I've got to head off now - thanks Roger, Gareth and Joel - excellent talks, and thanks to the organisers!

02:38:53
Thanks Jenny, good you could come.

02:38:58
See you Carla!

02:39:01
Sorry i have to go but thank you SO much everyone

02:39:07
Thanks Carla -

02:39:17
Thanks to all who need to leave early

02:43:28
https://dtaction.co.uk/swap/ here is the link to the website

02:43:37
Thanks, Julie

02:43:47
Julie-ann! ;-)

02:47:09
Just to be clear the financial arguments are strong for fossil fuel companies and airports (compared to engagement) but might not be as strong when it comes to other high carbon sectors, eg, some utilities have switched from coal to renewables successfully.

02:49:37
Has the Environment Agency pension fund fully divested already?

02:50:06
I am sure Bristol Greens would be happy to talk to councillors elsewhere about submitting council motions on it - as they have so much experience !

02:50:51
Just going along to committee meetings and submitting questions is also good.

02:51:31
You need to check your pensions web site to see what process is for submitting a question and being allowed to attend - do it as a group - it is fun !

02:52:47
Yes, worth going to Pensions Committee, AND (oversight)Board which keeps an eye on processes in decision-making

02:54:37
You can also just submit statements to committees - just tell them how you feel and why you are angry about the investments - you don’t have to be an expert.

02:55:05
A really thought provoking session, thank you - sorry but I must leave now, but would like to be keep informed please

02:55:11
Many thanks for the interesting discussion. Sorry I need to leave.

02:55:14
See you, Marlene and Sarah

02:55:46
The amount invested is not a firm number because it depends on definitions. Is a mining company that has only 10% coal that it is winding down a fossil fuel company? Particularly if it is mostly copper and other materials needed for the transition. It is often easier to focus on Exxon, Shell and BP.

02:56:10
… if they have a policy to divest those three then it probably covers most of them.