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DEI Community Calls - Shared screen with speaker view
Vanessa Sims she/her/hers
00:50
Vanessa Sims, I&D with UMB Financial Svcs, Kansas City
Sanah Rizvi (She/Her)
00:55
Hi I'm Sanah, I'm a student at NYU! I'm excited to graduate in May!
Denise Reid she/her/hers
01:04
Denise Reid, Tulsa, OK - Key Personnel & DR Consulting. Happy last day of April!
Danielle Beltrao (she/her)
01:12
Hi everyone. Danielle BELTRAO, D&I Global Manager, Ferrero
Brian McComak (he/him)
01:20
Brian here. DEI consultant. In Provincetown, MA. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmccomak/
Judeline (she / her / hers)
01:23
Hello everyone - based in Windsor UK
Terry Falk (he/him/his)
01:26
Terry Falk, Sr Manager, HR, DEI Programs, Vulcan, Inc., Seattle
Ben Greene (he/him)
01:29
Hi! Ben Greene here. Transgender inclusion specialist and D&I enthusiast here! Happy to connect with anyone on LinkedIn!
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
01:29
Jared Karol (he/him/his) from Oakland, CA. Strategic DEIB Storytelling/Communications; Belonging and Inclusion Strategist
Candace
01:30
Candace from Materion, Campus and Diversity, She/Her
Dani they/them
01:31
Hi everyone, Dani here. Happy Thursday! hope ya’ll are okay (:
Evan Horisk
01:34
Evan Horisk, I specialize in video content production for the D&I space. He/Him/his
isobelpetersen
01:45
Hi, I’m Isobel (she/her), Senior Talent Manager for a comms consultancy, Milltown Partners joining from London. We also have an office in SF!
Kathleen Bolamba (she/her)
01:47
Hi everyone! Kathleen Bolamba, Program Manager with Embarc Chicago, relocating to Quad Cities in June. Happy Thursday!
Jae Requiro AEG Worldwide (she/her)
01:53
Aloha! Jae Requiro (she/her) from AEG Worldwide in Los Angeles
Erica Fuhr (she/her)
02:01
I am a certified D&I professional in Toronto, working for an airline for the last 15 years and specifically D&I for the last 10 years.
Victor Simmons (He/Him/His)
02:02
Hi All HR|D&I Specialist looking for my next adventure.
Ken Sanchez
02:11
Good morning from Los Angeles (West Hollywood) !!!
Joel Peterson (He | Him | His)
02:17
hello all! Joel Peterson, Associate Director of HR for Kohn Pedersen Fox (KPF for short), a global architecture firm.
Cynthia Chand (she / her)
02:21
Hi everyone! I’m Cynthia, HR Generalist (including D&I initiatives) at a remote-first SaaS company. Love these calls :) Happy to connect! www.linkedin.com/in/cynthia-chand
Lisa Harris
02:28
Hello! Lisa here from Toyota!
Celia Léctora
02:29
Hello everyone! Celia Lectora, (She/her) HR Compensation and D &I , Health New England, Massachusetts
Michelle CB
02:41
good afternoon:)
Chuck Privitera (he/him/his)
02:45
Hey everybody!! Chuck Privitera from North Jersey, waiting patiently and looking forward to a beautiful weekend in the New York Metro area! https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-chuck-privitera/
Xavier Cottle (he, him, his)
02:47
Hi all. I am a senior D&I advisor at a DOD agency in the DC metro. https://www.linkedin.com/in/xavier-cottle-63961b1a1/
Ralanda Nelson (She/Her/Hers)
02:47
Hi All, Ralanda Nelson CDO at Mathematica Policy Research
Joel Peterson (He | Him | His)
02:50
hello all! Joel Peterson, Associate Director of HR for Kohn Pedersen Fox (KPF for short), a global architecture firm based in NYC.
Shayna Walker (she/hers/her)
02:51
Hello- Shayna here in Harlem (NY), DEI Director at Horizon Media
Clarissa
03:13
Hello, Clarissa Pitts (she/her/hers), Talent Development Manager in Los Angeles
Ralanda Nelson (She/Her/Hers)
03:24
Also, if you attended the call on Tuesday, there are great COVID related numbers by state on the Data For Black Lives website
Murray Mann
03:33
Director, Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Coaching Center, The Forum on Workplace on Inclusionhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/murrayamann/
Kellie S.
03:42
Kellie S. (she/her) Dir. DE&I, Austin, TX
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
03:49
I am Andre- a graduate student in NY. So happy to join today.
Terri Ford (she/her/hers)
03:53
Terri from Nesco Resource, Corporate Recruiter and D&I Enthusiast! Excited to be part of this great group.
Tammy Still (she/her/hers)
03:56
Hello, Tammy Jones-Still, SR Director of Diversity & Inclusion, Dallas, TX
Tondra Richardson
03:57
Tondra Richardson, Director Diversity University of Phoenix https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardsontondra
Michelle CB
04:06
just published this week
Michelle CB
04:09
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/life-q-tips-resources-working-parents-michelle-birnbaum
desiree.dancy (she/her/hers)
04:13
Good afternoon everyone. Group VP, Talent & Inclusion, Sims Ltd (global recycling)
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
04:23
Recently read Stamped From the Beginning by Ibram Kendi––highly recommended.
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
04:46
Good morning from Los Angeles, CA! Alex Krantzler (she/they) here. Currently seeking EDI and L&D roles. Would love to connect with y’all! www.linkedin.com/in/akrantzler
Cecilia Wessinger (she/ her/ hers)
04:51
Hello from Tulsa, OK~ Cecilia Wessinger entrepreneurial ecosystem builder (nationally). |I've met some of the most fascinating people from these calls, thank you!!
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
05:02
Tosin Abiodun, Equity Coordinator, City of Portland (She/Hers/Her)
Erika McMullen
05:24
Hi everyone, I’m Erika McMullen (she/her/hers) Moxie Consulting Group in Virginia where I empower leaders to create high performing teams in inclusive workplaces.
Valerie Spain
05:59
Valerie Spain Coach and Consultant for Racial Equity-valeriespaincoach@gmail.com- background managing multi sector partnership health equity initiatives.
Lauren Boudreau she/her/hers
06:12
Hi from Lauren Chair of LGBTQ+ and Ally ERG @ Iron Mountain //////http://linkedin.com/in/lauren-boudreau-steeves-4194261
Michelle CB
07:19
how awesome. speaking of face masks ! https://www.designboom.com/design/student-creates-transparent-masks-deaf-hard-of-hearing-04-08-2020/
Katie Livornese (She/Her/Hers)
08:11
Michelle - thank you for sharing that.. so awesome!
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
08:17
Hi everyone, I'm Jenny Wong calling in from a stormy London. I'm a Senior Project Manager and Writing Mentor who is interested in working in the Diversity and Inclusion space full time.
Anna Cass (she/hers)
09:03
Hi everyone! Anna (she/hers), aspiring D&I, so glad I could join today. https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-cass-22994819b/
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
09:15
Congratulations!
Arti Bhatt (she/her/hers)
09:44
Hi all! Arti Bhatt, Chair of Diversity network @Converse. Boston Based...also a stormy day for us here :)
Michelle CB
10:16
https://www.designboom.com/design/student-creates-transparent-masks-deaf-hard-of-hearing-04-08-2020/
Lauren Boudreau she/her/hers
10:30
Question: How are companies helping employees deal with having less cycles to be productive. Any creative ideas out there to use Out Of Office message or email or communications models help to communicate the priorities of requests to help the folks that need to respond
Michelle CB
10:32
did you see this mask for hard of hearing ? also opportunity
Michelle CB
10:35
https://www.designboom.com/design/student-creates-transparent-masks-deaf-hard-of-hearing-04-08-2020/
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
11:00
Yes, face masks can make some people of colour become targeted with abuse.
Lori Muszynski (she/her)
11:53
They also make it harder to pick up on visual context clues to meaning, so people are going to have to become more clear and take more time to express what they are intending to communicate.
Dani they/them
12:03
Black men and wearing “masks/or bandanas” is a challenge
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
12:11
hmm
Dani they/them
12:12
from the perception of the world.
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
12:13
So true @Lori and @Dani @Jenny
Linda Jenkins (she/her/hers)
12:20
Hi all! Linda Jenkins (she/her/hers) with Jenkins Consulting Group in Tulsa, OK.
Vanessa Sims she/her/hers
12:29
I would love to hear specific guidance around face masks which will be required when we return to work.
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
12:56
OMG this is SO TRUE! Crips and Bloods
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
12:58
So true…I was not thrilled being a latino walking into the bank with a bandana…
Kellie S.
13:01
So true
Judeline (she / her / hers)
13:12
Newsfeeds from the States to the rest of the world where young Black men have been evicted from stores for wearing masks....
Tondra Richardson (she/her/hers)
13:35
Such a great point, its unfortunate but necessary to consider the perception when choosing a mask.
Clarissa Pitts (she/her/hers)
13:36
Wow, so trye
Clarissa Pitts (she/her/hers)
13:39
true
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
13:40
did you see this???
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
13:42
https://www.designboom.com/design/student-creates-transparent-masks-deaf-hard-of-hearing-04-08-2020/
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
13:51
Thank you @Michelle!
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
13:53
so amazing but not everyone can access
Shavondalyn Givens
14:04
Yeah so true. Even watching people with reactions to my tween son with his mask on is pretty worrisome
Carl Chambers (he/him/his)
14:08
Walking into the post office. Walking up to the ATM
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
14:44
We are actually creating harm.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
14:47
word!
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
14:50
what do you suggest as a way to change this issue ? some suggestions?
Brian McComak (he/him)
15:01
An innovate face mask for the deaf and hard of hearing:
Brian McComak (he/him)
15:04
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bmccomak_college-student-makes-masks-for-the-deaf-activity-6651330545307443200-ykyP
Tricia Myers
15:05
Great points! Need to ensure solutions are inclusive with different groups of people
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
15:29
linkedin.com/in/bernadettebeekman
Judeline (she / her / hers)
15:37
Have a diversity in the group making decisions / giving advice perhaps @Michelle
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
15:47
Some Chinese students left London because they faced racism because they were wearing masks https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/mar/17/chinese-students-flee-uk-after-maskaphobia-triggered-racist-attacks
Vanessa Sims she/her/hers
15:50
what solutions do you recommend to the issue of face masks and the unintended impact?
Liva Neyroud (she/her/hers)
15:58
Our masks design “fashion” choice could signal what cultural message we want to convey
Becca Barnett (she, her, hers)
15:58
And due to the lack of a unified approach. These are great and accessible tool for local businesses. Credit to them. But there needs to be a collective national thoughtful approach to serve every community and keep everyone safe.
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
16:14
some of this language assumes negative intent but need to be sensitive on how to suggest changes. this all happened so fast
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
16:57
In fact, in NYC some joggers seem to think they are exempt from facemasks. A friend was walking in Harlem yesterday and someone was running on the sidewalk and bumped into her.
Dani they/them
16:58
@Malcom can you share what are your thoughts on the Medical Industrial Complex we currently have in the US and how that impacts under served communities, specifically people of color, black folk, people with disabilities, & LGBTQ+ communities. And what is your take on how do we hold these institutions accountable and those financially contributing to said institutions?
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
16:58
challenge of small business is they don’t have the big corporate diversity teams
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
16:59
Good point about being more aware of people who are blind that need to navigate social distancing.
Judeline (she / her / hers)
17:08
Opportunity to educate communities / neighbours in what to expect when they see people who have a visual impairment / have guide dogs and how these dogs are trained...
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
17:09
Governor Cuomo got sued for not providing sign language/interpretations at the daily conference. Inclusivity is key
Judeline (she / her / hers)
17:29
We talked in a previous session about the ripple effect....
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
17:34
In terms of someone that can’t see, I see it as incumbent on me to recognize the need for social distancing and not to impose that on someone that can’t see
Judeline (she / her / hers)
18:06
Times of crisis sheds a light on just how diverse our circles of influence / networks are....or not
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
18:07
Great question Jennifer
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
18:09
yes Jennifer!!
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
19:20
@judeline definitely. It's also a reminder of who the world is designed for.
Judeline (she / her / hers)
20:03
@Jenny ….and who had the most influence on that design in the first place...
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
20:53
opportunity for companies to educate clients too
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
20:59
Great nuanced perspective, @malcolm
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
21:01
like small biz and credit card cos
Kellie S.
21:26
"palatable" - nicely stated
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
21:43
@judeline Exactly and who has the power to make those changes. If the world is made for those people in mind then they may be reluctant to make changes. Some people think that making that space more inclusive can seem like they are losing something.
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
22:26
How can the folx at the bottom, the ones who quite frequently are the most marginalized (POC, trans and non-binary folx, people with disabilities, lower set, etc.), be empowered to spark these conversations within larger orgs?
Judeline (she / her / hers)
22:31
@Jenny yes - slices of the pie have always been the issue
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
23:16
*lower SES
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
23:19
@judeline, yes, some people aren't very open to sharing power.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
23:33
As you climb, lift others
Judeline (she / her / hers)
24:03
@Jenny....when I work with groups I start from the point of 'what's in it for me' for them
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
24:12
@Tosin - that implies the privilege and capacity to climb
Sean Conner
24:21
I’ve found that there continues to be a deep need for “inside game” and “outside game.”. Our internal advocates must have the external validators and supports to help make the case.
Dani they/them
24:56
@Alex great question I think an ever evolving one. Mostly I think providing spaces “by us, for us” for these specific communities with these experiences, offer healing and energy spaces to connect and be seen. And demand we have a seat at the table (often at a great personal risk, one that not many of might be able or willing to take)
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
25:12
It is challenging because there is something called white fragility. I have heard about using a strategy called "calling in and no calling out" but then I find that when you use both approaches, the person who did the harm ends up crying
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
25:16
Great point, @sean. I’d love to hear more about that. . .
Judeline (she / her / hers)
25:48
@Sean - an opportunity to support via coaching and mentoring?
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
25:49
@judeline, that's a great starting point.
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
25:53
no one knows. so many are into survival mode
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
26:09
@tosin - I think if someone ends up crying it’s probably because their intent wasn’t to do harm. So it’s about figuring out our messaging and how to have those difficult conversations
Dani they/them
26:31
@Alex I also think using our stories to call people in to reflect on THEIR own experiences of not belonging or feeling excluded at some point in their lives. Which gets them related to what people with marginalized experiences have
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
26:40
I think we need to clean in on the idea that most don’t want to do harm
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
26:44
lean not clean
Sean Conner
26:49
I think when pushing for more equitable hiring of black people, internally, ERGs are leading the fight and the outside orgs, like the national urban league, the NAACP and so many others are providing the outside voice to validate, challenge and push. external pressure must meet internal preparation!
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
26:49
@tosin yes, and the defences come up and you become accused of things instead... and the focus changes.
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
26:58
@Ken absolutely
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
27:00
The thing is they focus on their emotions instead of focusing on the harm they already caused.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
27:12
That is white fragility
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
27:13
Thanks, Sean!
Judeline (she / her / hers)
27:26
@Tosin - that would mean that people cry for the same reason / expression of emotion....but that's not the case - some are sad, some embarrassed, some angry...we need skilled application of emotional intelligence
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
27:53
don’t think people will forget for a while. almost like 9/11
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
28:03
difffere t but milestone moment
Kellie S.
28:12
I love Dooley's journalism quote that I take as a reminder of where my job sits: My job "is to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable." I am clear about this...
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
28:17
But that assumes that we are only talking to white folks and holding them accountable for harms that at times we as members of the under represented also contribute to and perpetuate
simonbaker
28:29
I love that you identified how having these conversations keeps hope alive, without engaging with these conversations , like you say, it’s easy to become despondent.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
28:34
I agree, emotional intelligence is key but I have also seen emotion used as a defensive mechanism. As a way to escape addressing the harm.
Dani they/them
28:55
I have to jump off leading a training for court officials on LGBTQ+ identities. Thank you everyone! Have an amazing weekend, much love<3
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
28:59
@Dani, totally. But what can we do as organizations do to make those spaces? But before those spaces exist, what can we do to seek safety while challenging systemic inequities?
Kellie S.
30:44
Great point. I have created a DEI Basics 101 session for those who are at the very start of their DEI learning journey.
Carl Chambers (he/him/his)
30:45
As a minority male, It is unrealistic for me to think that I will ever be treated with equity in corporate America.
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
31:14
Great article by Jesyka Simpson about leading with compassion when we “return to normal”: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/your-policy-welcome-jesyka-n-simpson-sphr-acc/
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
31:26
Thanks for sharing Jared.
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
31:36
You’re welcome, Tosin.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
32:15
Great strategy Malcolm!
Valerie Spain
32:21
Which is why we need more white people building resilience to step up and to be in partnership with- would love to see a critical examination of whiteness included in D&I initiatives, as well as part of the education of white D&I practitioners so they can lead difficult conversations with white leadership.
Brian McComak (he/him)
32:35
Maybe we can write QUESTION in caps for Jennifer and Malcolm to easily find our QUESTIONS in chat.
Cynthia Chand (she / her)
32:45
Great idea, Brian!
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
32:45
PDF copy of Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility- https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6q3zwc0jri1z5m/White%20Frigility.pdf?dl=0
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
32:52
We often say that it’s difficult to be a prophet in your own land …
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
33:08
Data helps
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
33:09
Thanks Andre
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
33:23
Disaggregated data.
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
33:37
You’re welcome, Jenny.
Brian McComak (he/him)
33:43
QUESTION: Is there a place Malcome would suggest we go for metrics/examples on the issues he’s highlighting?
Cecilia Wessinger (she/ her/ hers)
33:44
Crisis amplifies, necessitates and catalyzes action/reactions in and outside of systems.
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
33:45
Awesome. Thanks Malcom!
Evan Horisk (he/him/his)
34:12
I like this topic about bringing whole selves to work. What are some specific scenarios we need to see this happen in the investment banking industry, in particular? What are a few examples of what that would look like?
Brian McComak (he/him)
34:12
Malcom* (I will get the spelling right. Apologies Malcom.)
Judeline (she / her / hers)
34:17
Thanks @Andre
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
34:39
You’re welcome, Judeline
Kellie S.
34:53
The messenger is critical.
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
35:31
@Evan I have some thoughts about that. I didn’t work at an investment bank but worked at Bloomberg LP in NYC for almost 8 years. I helped start our LGBT ERG there, happy to discuss offline.
Judeline (she / her / hers)
35:36
Check out Messengers by Martin and Marks …..who we listen to, who we don't listen to, and why......would love your take on it
Carl Chambers (he/him/his)
35:52
Thinking about the messenger, I am reminded of the need for peer to peer instruction and mentoring.
JD Valladares-Williams
35:52
A new voice always has the advantage of novelty with folks and are likely to be actively listened to.
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
35:55
Even better when the "high-status" messenger points back to the marginalized person who brought it up in the first place.
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
35:56
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethmsanchez/
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
36:10
The more status we have, the more we need to use that power to ELEVATE others
Kellie S.
36:11
Thanks @Judeline
Xavier Cottle (he, him, his)
36:17
Right on Jennifer. Generally a message delivered by an messenger that is not respected and / or not seen as authentic will not be heard.
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
36:20
Yes, I've been in meetings where a woman will make a valid point but it's dismissed. Then a man will make the same point and people listen and are more receptive to it.
Shavondalyn Givens
36:31
Yes Amy!
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
36:37
Yes, Amy C: “The more status we have, the more we need to use that power to ELEVATE others”
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
36:46
Lift as you climb
Cynthia Chand (she / her)
37:48
Setting up our own support networks as D&I practitioners is really important. It’s a hard emotional hit to know that my voice may never be heard, even if my words are repeated. Being able to vent that personally to a network that understands, helps me to drop that ego and let someone in a position of power take that message further.
Irene Brank (she/her)
38:01
We all have an obligation as allies to "signal boost" those who are less privileged. In the meeting Jenny mentions; signal boosting might be "that's a good point man, let's ask woman what she meant by it when she brought it up earlier".
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
38:10
I learned from Minda Harts a new term that I like better than ally: success partner <––denotes more actionable expectations
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
38:12
@Irene - PERFECT!
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
38:22
Signal boosting. I like that
Liva Neyroud (she/her/hers)
38:22
Thanks @ Jennifer “Strategically Working Through others.” especially when they know how to communicate effectively. Seems thats why #metoo was coined much earlier but someone with greater communication skills could provoke bigger movement.
Evan Horisk (he/him/his)
38:27
“would be allies are looking for ways to help.” I concur, people are looking for meaning and altruistic endeavors right now to help be a part of the solution.
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
38:29
@Jared - love that!
Becca Barnett (she, her, hers)
38:39
I have 2 hours every 2 weeks with local leaders for a large org. How best to use these 2 hours during this time? This satellite location is much less progressive, with fewer resources for D&I, compared to our HQ. The leaders in this group were chosen because they were leaders, not because they are passionate about the cause. All white group, mostly male. Not representative of our associates, representative of the leadership. I am not sure I have control to expand the group. I am a Supply Chain MGR with a personal passion for inclusion, no formal training on D&I just extensive reading and an interest in bias and psychology.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
38:43
Minda Harts book is awesome
Becca Barnett (she, her, hers)
38:56
We are in early phases of Awareness.
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
39:05
Love Minda’s work - she’s been on my podcast FYI ….
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
39:11
@cynthia yes, having a network that will support, listen, empathise and amplify your message will really help as D&I work carries a heavy emotional impact.
Judeline (she / her / hers)
39:18
Dear all - you are very welcome to continue this support and resource sharing with the D & I professionals group on LI https://www.linkedin.com/groups/8928526/
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
39:20
Agreed @Becca and @Jenny
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
40:07
That happens to me all the time
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
40:09
@Malcom SO SO SO TRUE!
Irene Brank (she/her)
40:17
Wow, so true. In my work I'm see as the "Mom with a transgender daughter"; sometimes the other parts of me are missed.
Irene Brank (she/her)
40:42
Don't get me wrong, I love being the "cool" Mom! :-)
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
41:15
@malcolm yes, it's hard when people expect you to represent and speak on behalf of a whole race as if everyone in that race was the same.
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
41:32
That's exactly it, Malcom: Listen to people who need your voice. Lift them up based on what they vocalize.
JD Valladares-Williams
41:33
great leadership adapts to the environment and our environment needs a focus on mental health. I was reading an article on how 70% of the population is feeling the toll the lockdown is having on mental health, and we will have to deal with PTSD even once we get back to re-opening.
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
41:43
*malcom
Judeline (she / her / hers)
41:51
@Jenny....and we have our own bias to work through too
Becca Barnett (she, her, hers)
42:11
I love that - we will be wrong sometimes. But we have to welcome the opportunity to learn.
Sean Conner
42:39
I’d love to stay connected I
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
42:40
@judeline yes, everyone has their own biases that they need to recognise and overcome.
Judeline (she / her / hers)
42:55
The Johari window in action perhaps...?
Cynthia Chand (she / her)
42:56
I use the term “intersectional individual”. Recognizing that we all have intersections of identity, and often that combination of identities and whole picture of who we are is uniquely ours.
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
42:59
We contain multitudes
Sean Conner
43:00
here’s my LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/seanlconner
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
43:11
Thanks, Sean!
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
43:52
Thanks, Sean. Sent you a connection request.
Judeline (she / her / hers)
44:16
Hope this links works - please get in touch to continue this amazing discussion https://www.linkedin.com/in/judeline-nicholas-fcipd-1013394/
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
44:59
I like to say one crisis a day one day at a time. However, that's not possible these days!
Liva Neyroud (she/her/hers)
44:59
*provoked a bigger movement (about#metoo) because oh finding the right way to communicate it. Communicating via art also important . Art for change making, whether writing, theater, visual arts
Irene Brank (she/her)
45:14
Perfect is the killer of good. Love one thing at a time.
Joel Peterson (He | Him | His)
45:18
There is such richness in bringing the wisdoms, stories, experiences, insights from our lives as an Other into our role as an ally for Others outside our realm of experience. (I hope I articulated that clearly enough!)
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
45:26
Yes, Irene.
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
45:30
“Don’t make perfect the enemy of the good”
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
45:33
yes!
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
45:43
@malcom yes, tackling one thing at a time is a good approach rather than being overwhelmed by how much needs to be done.
Irene Brank (she/her)
46:03
Enemy sounds so much better than killer :-)
Murray A. Mann (He/Him/His)
46:57
VUCA: Volatility – Uncertainty - Complexity - AmbiguityVUCA EQ: Vision - Understanding - Clarity – Agilityhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/leading-emotional-intelligence/202003/emotional-intelligence-leadership-needed-in-vuca-world
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
47:13
Stories are great!
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
47:17
It seems like some dominant group allies (i.e., White people) are genuinely afraid of the risks (i.e., losing their jobs) of challenging the status quo narrative perpetuated by people in power (ie., their boss). What strategies have people found to encourage that their voice is needed and not to give up?
Liva Neyroud (she/her/hers)
47:22
great question @Michelle Birnbaum AMybe also funding those story tellers . Hollywood is 90% male .Netflix could be same
Evan Horisk (he/him/his)
47:31
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/evanhorisk_covid19-activity-6658363848891912193-evFJ
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
47:57
@Evan I was totally thinking about that video when I just said that!!!
Ralanda Nelson (She/Her/Hers)
48:11
Claim it Evan! Manifest it.
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
48:29
love thisb
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
48:30
I think it depends on the culture of the organization. If it is a punitive or highly hierarchical organization, they we could unintentionally create harm.
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
48:39
would love to see if can share
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
48:52
or you end up in a situation where people hold back and only say what they want you folks to hear
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
48:58
TYSM
Shavondalyn Givens
49:00
Great idea.
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
49:04
But I strongly believe in story telling
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
49:13
please share link Evan :)
Shayna Walker (she/hers/her)
49:33
^^^
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
50:13
Please kindly share a link to where I can access the video.
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
50:28
It’s a bit further up in the chat
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
50:32
ok
JD Valladares-Williams
50:33
Great idea! I think something I’ve been more attuned to is the disabled community during this time. There are many struggles they are facing with the requests were are making as simple as washing hands.
Katie Livornese (She/Her/Hers)
50:38
Reposting what Evan shared here for convenience: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/evanhorisk_covid19-activity-6658363848891912193-evFJ
iPhone Marcella
50:47
thank you!
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
50:50
Thanks
Carl Chambers (he/him/his)
51:05
"A wealth of information creates a poverty of attention." The mind can only focus on one thing at a time.
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
51:36
Excellent @Carl!
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
51:37
We’re (the LGBTQ+ community) still not the most inclusive…
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
51:58
And complex is sometimes and understatement for us in the LLGBTQ+ community
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
52:08
+1 Ken
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
53:03
In our struggle to gain acceptance we definitely didn’t always expand the tent
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
53:14
+111 @Ken!
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
53:15
Every community is complex once you peel back the façade of monolithic identity.
Erica Fuhr (she/her)
53:18
We have been encouraging 'Courageous Conversations' internally. Through our newsletter, trying to ignite conversations by talking about typically uncomfortable topics and encouraging employees to continue the conversation/learning. Our LGBT+ ERG created a Safe Spaces "podcast" and shared very personal stories, being vulnerable to help people learn.
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
53:33
Love that, Erica!
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
53:34
@Amy, very true
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
53:49
@Erica - How are you protecting the participants from backlash for their honesty in those interviews?
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
54:04
Check out the Code Switch podcast!!! Excellent
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
54:09
You made this linguistic anthropologist very happy with that
Irene Brank (she/her)
54:18
Best advice I've gotten on the inside is "go right to the edge and push, but don't go over it", because if you do you might not be here to keep up the good fight!
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
54:22
LOVE THE CODE SWITCH podccast
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
54:24
Code switching!
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
54:33
I will check out the podcast
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
54:36
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510312/codeswitch
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
54:58
Healthy tension
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
54:58
Also, check out Living Corporate's podcast: www.living-corporate.com
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
55:02
I participated in a webinar recently with the title code switching or soul switching?
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
55:25
Hi @jared this is a dropbox folder of research on allies & the White Fragility pdf I shared before. I hope this might help- https://www.dropbox.com/sh/umiwqrnlknpskj9/AABhlu_wWG4VE7MfKslVTDoda?dl=0
Valerie Spain
55:40
Big shoutout to Living Corporate! @Amy C.
Becca Barnett (she, her, hers)
55:48
@ Andre Thank you!
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
55:53
Love Code switch too. They are so good :)
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
55:58
https://jb-online.blog/2019/01/01/code-switching-vs-soul-switching/
Candace she/her/hers
55:59
@tosin can you share that link please
Valerie Spain
56:07
Thanks @Andre
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
56:12
YESSSSS, Jennifer!
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
56:15
You’re welcome, Becca
JD Valladares-Williams
56:23
I heard an executive (WOC) talk about how she code switched less and less and she progressed in her career. Trying to be the first to create the space for others to feel it is a place to be authentic. That they can stop doing it with her through her courage to be authentic.
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
56:31
You’re welcome, Valerie
Erika McMullen (she/her/hers)
56:42
Yes, the process of transformation
Irene Brank (she/her)
56:42
And, moving someone to a new place can never be taken away...such joyful work!
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
56:56
Its an old event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/code-switching-or-soul-switching-webinar-tickets-101469901206
iPhone Marcella
56:56
yes @jennifer!!! calling in instead of calling out
Andre Herring (He/Him/His)
57:03
Loving Livin Corporate podcast too
ericalynette
57:12
Thanks for sharing @JD, code switching is a burden
Arti Bhatt (she/her/hers)
57:18
thank you to this team for all the resources! Im overwhelmed....in a really positive way :)
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
57:42
One of the most impactful statements about language I heard while doing my research was “to be inclusive, you have to be creative.”
Arti Bhatt (she/her/hers)
57:47
would love to connect www.linkedin.com/in/artibhattkhan
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
57:52
Between zoom and podcasts I am up 20 hours a day...
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
57:56
Thanks Jennifer for your leadership. Keep shining Malcolm.
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
58:06
Share your contact info on here, everyone!
Judeline (she / her / hers)
58:07
Thank you all for your suggestions and comments ….who my learning curve!
Irene Brank (she/her)
58:13
This was wonderful.
Ken Sanchez (He/Him/His)
58:14
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethmsanchez/
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
58:16
https://linkedin.com/in/amycwaninger
Judeline (she / her / hers)
58:17
that was meant to be WOW
Michelle Birnbaum (she,hers,her)
58:27
another fantastic call! tysm
JD Valladares-Williams
58:27
Thank you as always for all of the insight. Would love to connect with anyone new: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdvawi/
Becca Barnett (she, her, hers)
58:28
Malcom - Thank you, thank you. This was such a wonderful learning experience. One of the quickest hours of my quarantine!
Jennifer Brown (she/her/hers)
58:30
Next guest is John Basile most recently CDO at Fidelity
Tammy Still (she/her/hers)
58:35
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammy-jones-still-722a0b
Dorothy Kalksma - She/Her/Her's
58:35
Thank you Jennifer and Malcom! Dorothy Kalksma linkedin.com/in/dorothykalksma
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
58:38
I'd love to connect with folks one-on-one: FindTimeWithAmy.com
Jared Karol (he/him/his)
58:39
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredkarol/
Kellie S.
58:49
Thanks all - these Tue/Thur community calls are so critical to my week being positive and motivated.
Macauley Rybar
58:59
Thanks, All! Would love the opportunity to connect.https://www.linkedin.com/in/macauley-rybar-8855b479/
Alex Krantzler (she/they)
59:00
Thanks Jennifer and Malcom for a phenomenal call. Always such a wonderful and impactful part of my week. Would love to connect with y’all! www.linkedin.com/in/akrantzler
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
59:04
Thank you, Malcom and Jennifer. This has been a fantastic discussion
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
59:10
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tosinabiodun/
Justine Lewis
59:10
These are great - the conversations, insights and resources provided are a tremendous help.
Jenny Wong (She/Her/Hers)
59:12
Thanks very much Malcom and Jennifer. This was a great discussion.
Clarissa Pitts (she/her/hers)
59:13
www.linkedin.com/in/clarissacpitts
Erica Fuhr (she/her)
59:14
these are the best D&I conversations that I've come across!
Justine Lewis
59:15
Thank you!
Valerie Spain
59:15
Podcasts: Scene on Radio, Throughline, Come Through, Teaching Hard History
Murray A. Mann (He/Him/His)
59:16
Thank you Jennifer, Malcom and everyone for sharing your amazing insights. Director, Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Coaching Center, The Forum on Workplace on Inclusionhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/murrayamann/
iPhone Marcella
59:19
Marcella Hall - hope to connect with everyone here! http://linkedin.com/in/hallmarcella
Terri Ford (she/her/hers)
59:26
I'm happy to connect with you all! https://www.linkedin.com/in/terri-ford-056baa19/
Arti Bhatt (she/her/hers)
59:27
QUESTION THE SYSTEM --- that part!
Veronica Pirillo (she/her/hers)
59:36
Some news & notes:This Friday, May 1st: Better Man Movement: Getting Real: Authenticity with Jennifer Brown, CEO of Jennifer Brown Consulting 11 am PT / 1 pm CT / 2 pm ET; bit.ly/Authenticity_BMM
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
59:37
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tosinabiodun/
ericalynette
59:43
https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-lynette/
Victor Simmons (He/Him/His)
59:44
Another great call thanks Malcom and Jennifer. https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorsimmons/
Tom Vincent (he/him/his)
01:00:07
I appreciate everyone’s contributions and perspective today! www.linkedin.com/in/tom-vincent-99b2b71b/
Martha Higgins (She, her, hers)
01:00:10
Thank you! I came in late but really enjoyed the conversation.
Celia Léctora
01:00:17
Amazing! Thank you all!! Be safe !
Liva Neyroud (she/her/hers)
01:00:23
Find me on Linkedin liva neyroud Rajaonah
Tosin Abiodun (She, Hers and Her)
01:00:26
Bye everyone
Kathleen Bolamba (she/her)
01:00:28
A wonderful call Jennifer and Malcom. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleen-bolamba-3a128671/
Veronica Pirillo (she/her/hers)
01:00:43
Lesbians Who Tech and Allies are hosting a Master Class: How to Lead ERGs Virtually with Google and Adobe with Mistral Myers, Executive & Internal Communications Manager and LGBTQ ERG Chair at Google, and Carita Marrow, Diversity & Inclusion Talent Program Manager at AdobeDate: Friday, May 1Time: 12pm PST / 3pm EST; Register at: https://lesbianswhotech.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=462fbe24158b95dfd7bd2a2a8&id=1b5aa696c8&e=fcb5fcdc8e
Nika White
01:00:49
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikawhite/
Clarissa Pitts (she/her/hers)
01:01:02
Thank you for a great call!
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
01:01:32
thanks again!
Veronica Pirillo (she/her/hers)
01:01:37
IAC now has a DEI job board; http://www.inclusioncoalition.info/d-i-career-opportunities.html
Amy C. Waninger (Lead at Any Level)
01:01:40
Thank you, Veronica! I'm passing that one on
Bernadette (she/her/hers)
01:01:45
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Isobel Petersen (she/her/hers)
01:01:46
Thank you!
Michael Baptiste
01:02:06
Thank you! This outlet is so helpful!