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Lisa Heineman (she/her)
30:17
Lisa (she/her), feeling very laden with eye-strain
Virginia (she) in DC
30:37
Virginia (she). Grammarly-hopeful?
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
30:43
Simchah she/her headache-y
Olivia (she/her)
30:46
Olivia, she/her, stung
Oliver (no pronouns)
30:46
good afternoon/evening everyone! oli here, feeling the eye strain but also excited to dig into the grammar
sarah brooks
30:49
in DC
Leah (she/her)
30:50
Leah, she/they, exasperated
alex (they/them)
30:58
Alex, they/them, pumped despite some zoom fatigue
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
30:59
yikes, Olivia!
Yossi/Joey he, hu
31:12
Yossi, Joey, he/him, angry
Michael Alterman
31:21
Michael he/him ready
Jacob Richards (he/him)
31:23
Jacob, he/him, scattered
Melvin Lewis
31:27
Melvin, he/him, hanging in there
Tara Levy
31:31
Tara, she/they, hopeful!
Ana Rubinstein
31:42
Pooped from spending too much time in the heat but happy to be here.
Ari Monts (they/them)
31:44
ari, they them, sleepy-but-excited!
Ma'ayan Seligsohn
31:55
Maayan, they/them, Grateful
R'Cyn (they/them)
32:15
Cyn, they/them, grateful
Hadar (she/her)
32:15
Hadar (she/her) excited, tho tired!
Ana Rubinstein
32:41
I apologize. My video isn’t working… My very old computer is doing the best she can...
Melvin (he/him)
34:22
I dedicate my learning to my brother Kevin
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
34:26
in honor of my great uncle Lee z"l who passed away earlier today
Michael Alterman
34:32
to the land I am living on
Olivia (she/her)
34:35
I dedicate my learning to my Mom (healing and gratitude)
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
34:36
Dedicating with gratitude to the Philadelphia public schools that educated me
Oliver (no pronouns)
34:37
dedicating my learning tonight to my family for healing, resilience, and the space to release tension
R'Cyn (they/them)
34:39
my grandfather Nathan (Menachem Nuchem) on his yarzheit.
Virginia (she) in DC
34:39
lately I’ve been dedicating learning prayer and healing energy to families and friends of murder victims.
Ari Monts (they/them)
34:40
dedicating my learning to all of us! here! now! who are excited about grammar!
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
34:47
Dedicating to my Grandmother Esther Tucker z"l who gave me my love of etymology
Yossi/Joey he, hu
34:49
I'm dedicating this learning to people without electricity, especially my friend Noah who's so tickled to see me having found Judaism
Masha she/her
34:51
I dedicate my learning to my friends Steve and Ellie who lost a beloved child
alex (they/them)
34:52
I want to dedicate my learning to friends new and old but especially the old friends in this space both expected and unexpected!! Love you all.
Hadar (she/her)
34:59
I am dedicating my learning to my mom, who instilled in me a love of tradition, something we share even the gaps between us feel insurmountable
Tara (she/they)
35:14
dedicating my learning to my partner Criss who welcomes, honors, and encourages my jewish learning and practice <3
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
36:38
https://svara.org/community-norms/Being together in this spaceSVARA, as a yeshiva learning environment, is a home for queer and radical Torah where we are all learners and teachers (Thank G!d!). Our goal is to build a vibrant learning space that celebrates queer culture and reveals the deeply rooted radical queerness of the Jewish tradition.We aspire to create an intergenerational, radically inclusive, warm, open, and loving learning community.Comments in the bet midrash should—even in moments of disagreement—show respect for individuals' experiences and identities.This is a healing space and we should treat each other with kindness and love.If/when hurt or harm happens our teaching team is here for you.Make sure your name (and pronouns, if you’d like!) on your Zoom screen reflect what you’d like to be called.Read more about SVARA’s Community Norms in your learning portal!
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
36:53
https://svara.org/community-norms/
Ana Rubinstein (she/her/ella)
39:24
I want to be able to make meaning and better understand the siddur and Torah and Talmud.
Sahar BH - they/them
43:18
Sorry to be late all! I didn’t get the link in my email, had to figure it out on the fly
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
43:29
glad you could make it!!
Sahar BH - they/them
43:40
Thanks :-)
Sahar BH - they/them
44:15
What has happened so far?
Virginia (she) in DC
44:59
@Sahar — welcome, dedication of our learning. Otherwise just now starting
Sahar BH - they/them
45:07
Great! thanks
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
45:27
we talked through why we learn grammar! for torah and Talmud study. you can see the ideas in the packet I think
Oliver (no pronouns)
45:37
prepositions?
Oliver (no pronouns)
46:45
pronouns
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
47:17
My mom taught me prepositions were any way a cat could interact with a box XD
Sahar BH - they/them
47:26
nouns
Cole Krawitz (he/him)
50:19
this made me curious if the bet prefix could be connected to the root for to go?
Oliver (no pronouns)
50:39
lipnei is a prefix meaning before right? that comes from al and pnei (face_, so that's two roots
alex (they/them)
50:55
Jastrow does not list a root for min (page796)
Cole Krawitz (he/him)
51:14
i’ve missed learning with you, amir! this is so great
Hadar (she/her)
51:43
Love it
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
54:28
it doesn't always list roots for roots though, does it? could mem nun be the root?
Oliver (no pronouns)
57:48
Binyan is on jastrow 177 1
Oliver (no pronouns)
58:05
1) building or structure 2) human frame, skeleton *
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
59:02
Binyan as root drag 💃🕺
Oliver (no pronouns)
59:14
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:01:02
moral intuition
Hadar (she/her)
01:13:25
Can you explain again what intensive or intuitive means?
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:13:49
Intensive was like how write becomes engrave
Sahar BH - they/them
01:13:52
It was my understanding that intensive is a more exaggerated form of the verb
Sahar BH - they/them
01:13:58
So like write vs. scrawl
Sahar BH - they/them
01:14:04
(Or engrave as was the example)
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:14:28
and there isn't an "intuitive" form of intensity
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:14:36
he hit himself
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:16:28
people do stick&poke tattoos to themselves - seems like we ought to have a word for it, you're right
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:17:57
We shouted at each other
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:22:16
I should never have paused it lol
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:22:27
sorry for the over talking @Molly
Amir Weg (he/him)
01:27:27
https://www.tyndalearchive.com/TABS/Jastrow/
alex (they/them)
01:27:34
page 679
Sahar BH - they/them
01:27:37
It’s page 679
Sahar BH - they/them
01:27:40
Jinx haha
alex (they/them)
01:27:43
*678
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:27:57
speedy searchers :)
alex (they/them)
01:28:24
got little tabs to mark out each letter in jastrow!
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:28:39
smarttttttt
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:28:52
me too! its so nice
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:29:58
….charamaric?? why ch?
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:29:59
It stands for Chaldean (which is Aramaic)
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:30:02
THANK YOU
Sahar BH - they/them
01:30:04
!!
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:30:19
lol cuz it's Charismatic #dndTalmud
alex (they/them)
01:30:29
charamander, amirite
Sahar BH - they/them
01:34:23
It’s a cool way to think about what letters do to create a word
Sahar BH - they/them
01:34:28
Joining signs together to spell
Sahar BH - they/them
01:34:34
Or words together to make a sentence
Ana Rubinstein (she/her/ella)
01:34:40
Also ketubah
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:34:42
yes!!!
Sahar BH - they/them
01:34:44
yes!!!
Sahar BH - they/them
01:34:52
Aw that’s nice <3
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:36:05
thinking about the line near the end of aleinu - Kakatuv betoratecha
alex (they/them)
01:38:13
if anyone hasn’t read the last paragraph of jastrow’s introduction, especially if you like victorian english, i highly recommend it
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:38:16
indite (v.)formerly also endite, late 14c., "put down in writing," from Old French enditer, enditier "dictate, write; draw up, draft; (legally) indict," from Vulgar Latin *indictare, from Latin in- "in, into, on, upon" (from PIE root *en "in") + dictare "to declare," frequentative of dicere "to say, speak" (from PIE root *deik- "to show," also "pronounce solemnly"). The same word as indict but retaining a French form. Related: Indited; inditing.https://www.etymonline.com/word/indite#etymonline_v_34870
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:38:36
conSIGN
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:38:47
mmm good one Finnigan! perfect
Olivia (she/her)
01:39:02
I’m still reeling; the minyanim that Jastrow lists for a given root are the ONLY minyanim for that root? Not all roots can exist in any Binyanim? Or is this more of “these are the only written examples have”?
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:39:03
sign to sign - CONnection
Sahar BH - they/them
01:39:07
This is so cool !! Love tracing all these connections
Olivia (she/her)
01:39:13
(binyanim)
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:39:43
thanks for sharing that etymology dot com tidbit Olivia!
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:40:18
tfw your understanding of an entire language is based on certain written fragments
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:40:39
like, i cannot imagine trying to figure out english from like…. moby dick
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:40:44
thinking about how many uncredited research assistants he must have had
Hadar (she/her)
01:40:58
^
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:41:06
finn that's incredible
alex (they/them)
01:43:16
lol imagine an english learner’s dictionary specifically for moby dick….
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:43:16
His niece was a classical archaeologist!
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:43:23
I love his conjectures about Protosemitic roots
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:43:30
There are difference in words across versions of Talmud, he'll usually note that in brackettes at the end of entries with asterisks
sarah brooks
01:43:41
J does actually credit several in his preface...
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:44:17
1. Find root2. explain to each other how it fits
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:55:37
Thanks Finnegan & Melvin!
Masha she/her
01:55:57
Felt profane to be looking up different words at the same time
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
01:56:01
:) :)
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:56:05
thanks so much ma'ayan and alex!!
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:56:06
haha!
Ana Rubinstein (she/her/ella)
01:56:08
My camera started magically working!
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
01:58:00
All materials are also on the Portal: https://svara.org/program-portals/2021-summer-cfl-portal/
Hadar (she/her)
01:58:38
Thank you!
Oliver (no pronouns)
01:59:02
thank you amir, olivia, rocky, and everyone!
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:59:30
I'd love to ask a question
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:02:07
queer word queer word love hir
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:02:19
❤️
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
02:02:43
look out for common gender nouns marked c. for more queer words
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:03:04
companion planting
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
02:03:55
! Finnegan - nice!
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
02:04:45
you can't raise livestock without a little mating-like interaction among the animals?
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:04:58
haha very true very true, reciprocal
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:05:32
thank you that was my question :) glad I stuck around, will do some digging too
Amir Weg (he/him)
02:06:05
Me too!
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
02:07:55
page IX of the intro
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:09:18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derived_stem
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:11:04
In each Semitic language, the number of derived stems is different. In Hebrew, both biblical and modern, there are seven common ones,[10] and in Arabic there are nine common forms and at least six rare ones;[11] Akkadian has thirteen common patterns, Ugaritic has ten, Syriac has six, Modern Aramaic has two,[4][3] and so on.
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:11:22
to google source the answer to our question about # of arabic binyanim
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
02:13:11
but we already use construct to translate smichut
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:13:22
true olivia ugh
Fairy Olivia (they/them)
02:15:21
A reminder for us all to slow down a bit so our captioners can keep up
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:15:27
ty!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:16:00
as a mute autist with a special interest in linguistics I really resonate with language anxiety
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
02:16:53
love that, oliver - i love how orthography represents language in a way that encodes speech but can’t be fully represented by speech or represent it
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:18:36
yes simchah!!!!!!!!!! yes!!!!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:22:27
:) thank you everyone!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:22:35
I'm alright, gonna tuck in
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:22:57
that's very understandable, thank you :) see you next week!