Board members who chose to violate the Brpown Act might have personal responsibility for their actions in doing so.

Willful violation f the Brown Act is a misdemeqnor, is it not?

So the members of the City Council always pay attention at City Hall? Never disappear into chambers behind the dais?

Another potential consequence is Neighborhood Councils which knowingly violate the Brown Act will likely NOT be defended by the City Attorney

YES Glenn!

AB 2449, if I recall, only allows a member to be absent for TWO times in any year (three consecutive if goes over a year boundary)

City Councilmembers have tended to wander around, have side discussions between themselves, with staff and with unknown members of the public even in in-person meetings

At least have each NC board member's name shown on screen even if not using video.

None of this is a CITY decision. Most of us agree that online meetings for advisory bodies shou;ld be permitted as an option of the body. However, that requires STATE action, which will likely take 2 years. ((We have a 2-year legislature. What is proposed in year 1 can by rolled over into year 2.)

Hybrid Pilot program 14 NCs + 7 back up

The E\"EVG" virtual meetings will not solve the problem because of the limit on TWO times a year use for any board member.

I find it puzzling that 3 years down the pandemic road there has been no significant comprehensive modifications to the Brown Act. Seems like starting about a year or two ago it would have been a no-brainer.

Thanks, Pat. Goes to show some NC board members have more brains than those we send to City Hall and Sacto.

Pat, the City of LA obviously chose NOT to advocate on behalf of itsa NCs during the pandemic. I t5hink this determined avoidance of the issue means we will be better served by reaching out to our elected state representatives AS INDIVIDUALS. I have no fait that the city actually cares.

Tony I am shocked, shocked that the City would not advocate on NCs behalf

:)) We will always do better advocating for ourselves.

People bring their dogs, the homeless get to hang out and get some food if the NC provides...

Also we get to feed goat (puppet)

There is some possibility of NCs protecting their charter by meeting 4x a year (the minimum) and doing lots of other rabel rousing with neighborhoods on city issues as a separate private initiative until such time as we can meet online. In essence, crate a separate non-NC NC system.

Thank you for your input everybody

I recommend that LANCC propose a motion requesting the state pass emergency legislation to allow NC's to continue virtual meetings until a suitable solution is developed

Thanks for the shout out Raquel! Our newsletter can be viewed at https://hcnnc.org/newsletters/.

I personally think the city council action is crystal clear.

Constant contact is a contact issue - agree - so easy to be unsubscribed and not get notices

GM Beltran what is your preferred email so each Board member can get in touch to let you know directly on issues within the month so Glenn doesn’t have to let you know issues month to month at Lance as not all Board members attend this meeting? So no one gets left out

Sorry, my dog is sick, so I'm distracted

@Adriana @Glenn - can you please let us know what was discussed about the LANCC elections?

Website: www.BudgetAdvocates.org

I send emails to GM Beltran and they are almost always responded to. The email I use is Raquel Beltran <raquel.beltran@lacity.org>. Thank you GM Beltran and Commissioner Schaffer for joining us and providing an update!

Website: https://www.neighborhoodcongress.la

About us: https://www.neighborhoodcongress.la/planningcommittee

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I will post it again at adjournment

How was the outreach done for the Congress Elections?

Put the links to budget advocates and congress of neighborhoods on LANCC agendas

I would appreciate knowing how is on the LANCC Elections Committee. I had requested to be on the LANCC Elections Committee and emailed the LANCC Executive Committee about it but no one got back to me. I would appreciate more transparency on this issue.

CORRECTION: Two of the officers are Chair and Vice-Chair

***knowing who is on the....

1) Chair 2) Vice Chair 3) Secretary 4) Treasurer

If there is an open an transparent process for running for LANC office, I do not understand how the election committee can be an influencer of who runs or gets elected.

LANCC office

On the agenda it says that this is a Update on LANCC election report so how can any document be upload on a webpage if this is not approved by LANCC voting members?

I volunteered and I was not chosen to be on the Elections Committee.

I will not be posting any document until AFTER today's meeting ends and if it is a DRAFT, that will be so noted

Who is on the Elections Committee, Terrence/Glenn?

Then why do we need a Treasurer then? I

neither Glenn or Terrence are on the Committee

It's like when I was in high school and was elected Treasurer of the Sons of the American Legion. There was no money to manange and the Legion was safe from me. The Treasurer has other duties (like running the website).

Lydia, why can't the members of LANCC know who is on the LANNC Elections Committee? The lack of transparency is this process is what is troublesome for many NCs

Do we have the roles and responsibilities of each Executive Committee?

We waited 8 months for the previous Election Committee to do what this Election Committee did in less than 1 month.

Can someone please type the names of the Election

emails can be sent to me: raquel.beltran@lacity.org. As a suggestion, when situations like the one described by Glenn occur, send your NEA an email advising that your board may not have received information distribution by other NEAs to their assigned NCs. Please cc their director and me. that will allow us to better drill down on the situation. It is difficult to respond

Can someone please type the names of the Election Committee members into this chat? I'm curious too.

otherwise with a solution. thank you

Adriana, I was in the same boat as you. Just because I mentioned that DONE was planning to meet with the Elections Committee, everyone got very defensive and decided to disban us

sharing an A&E promo about NCs that is airing on Channel 35. Share in your networks. :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMOSafHTV0&feature=youtu.be

Elections Committee - Cindy Cleghorn, Miran, Carol Hutchingson

What is the gmail for more election information

I was not emailed by Terrence and I would like to see be on the Elections Committee. This seems discriminatory

I think Miho points out the key issue in the reconstitution of the LANCC election committee (at least as I recall). The concern was over the report that the LANCC election committee was planning to meet with the General Manager of DONE. That rubbed a number of people the wrong way and they decided to disband a committee who (may or may not have been) planning to coordinate their work with DONE.

Cindy has run previous LANCC Elections

Tony, I believe the main problem was that they were formed in March and it was December and there was no work to show

Jennifer, yes, that was in fact a complaint the Miho registered repeatedly.

With no funding, currently the Treasurer contributes to LANCC by posting the agendas and related meeting documents on the website. During the past three years, the Treasurer has hosted these meetings on Zoom with the assistance of Vice-Chair David Uebersax as co-host.

Carol Hutchinson - Sunland-Tujunga NC, Cindy Cleghorn- Sunland-Tujunga NC; Mihran Kalaydjian - Woodland Hills Warner Center; It looks like all of the Elections Committee are from the same geographical location

https://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacityclerkconnect/index.cfm?fa=ccfi.viewrecord&cfnumber=18-0467

Please identify any motions on agenda with either a number or letter for easy reference during meeting.

a. Motion for each Neighborhood Council to review to what extent issues from CF 18-0467 https://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacityclerkconnect/index.cfm?fa=ccfi.viewrecord&cfnumber=18-0467 that affect them have been addressed and request that their councilmembers create a new Council File to address open concerns.

I recommend that LANCC propose a motion requesting and working with appropriate state representatives that the state pass emergency legislation to allow NC's to continue virtual meetings until a suitable solution is developed also LANCC request City council through its legislative policy request that the state pass such legislation

Need to head out for our Tenants' Rights Seminar to prep for the eviction moratorium ending. I hope that LANCC considers that we may have a new wave of those with housing insecurity in the coming months and how our NCS can prep. Thank you all!

It Sid is recognized for his motion, I will be happy to second is proposal.

his proposal

The fact that Terrence refuses to acknowledge that HCNNC would like to be involved in the LANCC Elections and acknowledges Glenn's comments that Carol showed interest in being on the Elections Committee last month and that he will follow up with her shows that he cannot be a neutral Chair and be open to allowing all who would like to participate to participate. My intent to be involved with LANCC is to create a more inclusive environment so that more NCs want to get involved with us. As I mentioned multiple times, there appears to only be representation at these monthly meetings by about 20 NCs even though we purport to represent all 99 NCs. I think it's important to ensure that when we are voting for the new officers that only one vote is given to each NC and that private chat function is disabled

Abstain = HCNNC

b. Motion for each Neighborhood Council to review the revised report-back from DONE on CF 21-0407, determine if it accurately reflects Neighborhood Council’s understanding of what was requested, and bring their concerns to the February LANCC meeting to address with the Arts, Parks, Health, Education and Neighborhoods Committee (or subsequent committee dealing with the Neighborhoods)

In a completely separate and perhaps now irrelevant issue, I think Zoom should enable a registry setting to disable all provate chat. In Brown Act meetings (which this is not) I think private chat is a Brown Act violation.

c. Motion that Neighborhood Councils request that the City Council mandate that the new Ad Hoc Committee on City Governance Reform act with full transparency on its slate of issues and involve stakeholders and Neighborhood Councils from this point forward on: (1) expanding the size of the city council and reducing the size of each district so each Councilmember represents a more manageable number of Angelenos; (2) the creation and operation of a new redistricting commission; (3) taking steps as needed to ensure districts are more competitive and that there is ore grass-roots participation and more equitable representation; (4) establishing barriers to ensure Councilmembers are no longer able to abuse their position; (5) promptly addressing reform of the Ethics Commission, campaign finance and municipal lobbying; and (6) other issues taken up by the Committee as they are formulated.

Council President has their committe chair and member recommendations to the City Clerk. Those recommendations will be presented toCty Council for a vote.

Motion A: i. Moved by Liz, Second by Terrenceii. Vote: 14,1,3

Motion B: i. Moved by Liz, Second by Glennii. Vote: 17,0,2

Do we have a Second?

Amendment to strike (6) other issues taken up by the Committee as they are formulated.

Moved Len Seconded Lauren

c. Motion that Neighborhood Councils request that the City Council mandate that the new Ad Hoc Committee on City Governance Reform act with full transparency on its slate of issues and involve stakeholders and Neighborhood Councils from this point forward on: (1) expanding the size of the city council and reducing the size of each district so each Councilmember represents a more manageable number of Angelenos; (2) the creation and operation of a new redistricting commission; (3) taking steps as needed to ensure districts are more competitive and that there is ore grass-roots participation and more equitable representation; (4) establishing barriers to ensure Councilmembers are no longer able to abuse their position; (5) promptly addressing reform of the Ethics Commission, campaign finance and municipal lobbying; as amended.

#4 could include the 245 issue

Greetings everyone,Sorry I am late to the meeting. I was Hiking at Echo Mountain. — What Agenda item are we discussing?

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We are on 5C.

Thanks!

@Lionel, agenda items 6, 7, 8, and 9 have already been discussed

including but not limited to

Thanks, Miho.

Motion that Neighborhood Councils request that the City Council mandate that the new Ad Hoc Committee on City Governance Reform act with full transparency on its slate of issues and involve stakeholders and Neighborhood Councils from this point forward on: (1) expanding the size of the city council and reducing the size of each district so each Councilmember represents a more manageable number of Angelenos; (2) the creation and operation of a new independent redistricting commission; (3) taking steps as needed to ensure districts are more competitive and that there is more grass-roots participation and more equitable representation; (4) establishing barriers to ensure Councilmembers are no longer able to abuse their position; and (5) promptly addressing reform of the Ethics Commission, campaign finance and municipal lobbying.

Motion that Neighborhood Councils request that the City Council mandate that the new Ad Hoc Committee on City Governance Reform act with full transparency on its slate of issues and involve stakeholders and Neighborhood Councils from this point forward on: (1) expanding the size of the city council and reducing the size of each district so each Councilmember represents a more manageable number of Angelenos; (2) the creation and operation of a new, independent redistricting commission; (3) taking steps as needed to ensure districts are more competitive and that there is ore grass-roots participation and more equitable representation; (4) establishing barriers to ensure Councilmembers are no longer able to abuse their position; and (5) promptly addressing reform of the Ethics Commission, campaign finance and municipal lobbying;

yes hcnnc

d. Motion to establish a LANCC committee to discuss and formulate a shared effort to pool knowledge and resources to offer more assistance to our communities with regards to stakeholder concerns including, but not limited to, issues affecting the elderly, the disabled, those still impacted at any level by Covid, those suffering from depression, homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, the intersection of public safety and social service needs, best practices when local officials refuse to take action on neighborhood problems, and any additional concerns they may wish to take on.

As a suggestion, can the minutes distinguish between attendees and voting members. May the minutes also include which NC the voting members represent and when their terms end?

Liaisons serve at the pleasure of their NCs, there are not terms on liaisons

From the motion (22-1197) to form the ad hoc committee on city governance reform: To move forward, the City Council must respond to this crisis by seriously engaging withproposals for the reform of our City government that have long been circulating, but which theCouncil has yet to take deliberative action to pursue. Among these are the possibility ofexpanding the number of City Councilmembers, removing City Councilmembers' directdiscretionary power over land use decisions in their districts, reforming City rules concerninglobbyists (as proposed by the City Ethics Commission in C.F. 22-0560), and establishing a trulyindependent redistricting commission (as called for in C.F. 21-1472).

d. Motion to establish a LANCC committee to discuss and formulate a shared effort to pool knowledge and resources to offer more assistance to our communities with regards to stakeholder concerns including, but not limited to, issues affecting the elderly, the disabled, immigrants, children and transitional aged youth and those still impacted at any level by Covid, those suffering from depression, homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, the intersection of public safety and social service needs, best practices when local officials refuse to take action on neighborhood problems, and any additional concerns they may wish to take on.

I will second Lauren's amendment if needed. I think it is very good.

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What was the vote for 5. c.?

d. Motion to establish a LANCC committee to discuss and formulate a shared effort to pool knowledge and resources to offer more assistance to our communities with regards to stakeholder concerns including, but not limited to, issues affecting the elderly, the disabled, immigrants, children and transitional aged youth and those still impacted at any level by Covid, those suffering from depression, homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, better educational opportunities at an acceptable level, the intersection of public safety and social service needs, best practices when local officials refuse to take action on neighborhood problems, and any additional concerns they may wish to take on.

5c i. Moved by Liz, Second by Tony1. Amendment by Len Shaffer to strike Item 6, Second by Lauren2. Accepted with no objectiona. Update by Liz, Second by Jack.b. Accepted with no objection3. Vote: 18,0,0

d. Motion to establish a LANCC committee to discuss and formulate a shared effort to pool knowledge and resources to offer more assistance to our communities with regards to stakeholder concerns including, but not limited to, issues affecting the elderly, the disabled, immigrants, children and transitional aged youth and those still impacted at any level by Covid, those suffering from depression, homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, better public educational opportunities at an acceptable level, the intersection of public safety and social service needs, best practices when local officials refuse to take action on neighborhood problems, and any additional concerns they may wish to take on.

This motion did not come from the LANCC Working Group so should not have agendized as if it had....

refer back to working group for approval

^^Yes to Sharon's suggestion

Sry, my laptop got indigestion.

Yes to Miho's editing suggestions.

Can't it just be a motion from the floor, not the workgroup?

Floor would be gtreat. We wanted to bring to LANCC an issue that was expressed to us in the working group

I recommend that LANCC propose a motion requesting the state pass emergency legislation to allow NC's to continue virtual meetings until a suitable solution is developed

Motion to establish a LANCC committee to discuss and formulate a shared effort to pool knowledge and resources to offer more assistance to our communities with regards to stakeholder concerns including, but not limited to, issues affecting the elderly, the disabled, immigrants, children and transitional aged youth and those still impacted at any level by Covid, those suffering from depression, homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, advancing educational opportunities for all students and creating an inclusive environment, the intersection of public safety and social service needs, best practices when local officials refuse to take action on neighborhood problems, and any additional concerns they may wish to take on.

I recommend that LANCC propose a motion requesting and working with appropriate state representatives that the state pass emergency legislation to allow NC's to continue virtual meetings until a suitable solution is developed also LANCC request City council through its legislative policy request that the state pass such legislation

Next Motion Motion to establish a LANCC committee to discuss and formulate a shared effort to pool knowledge and resources to offer more assistance to our communities with regards to stakeholder concerns including, but not limited to, issues affecting the elderly, the disabled, immigrants, children and transitional aged youth and those still impacted at any level by Covid, those suffering from depression, homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, advancing educational opportunities for all students and creating an inclusive environment, the intersection of public safety and social service needs, best practices when local officials refuse to take action on neighborhood problems, and any additional concerns they may wish to take on.

15/0/1 passed

Motion D as amended multiple times (15/1/1) motion passed

I have to leave for another appointment. I hope everyone has a good New Year.

enjoyed your meeting, thank you and happy New Year good people

Final vote with multiple amendments on this motion (distillation of all amendments). 15/0/2

Can all of the motions voted on at this meeting be e-mailed out to everyone?

https://www.ladwp.com/ladwp/faces/ladwp/aboutus/a-whoweare/a-wwa-boardofcommissioners

It would be helpful to list how and which NC members voted for each motion too

Tony, do we need to do it this weekend or a different weekend?

For e-comment to LADWP Board re renewal of NC-DWP MOU at meeting on Tuesday, January 24. Opens 10 am Sat, closed 6 pm M on

https://www.ladwp.com/ladwp/faces/ladwp/aboutus/a-whoweare/a-wwa-boardofcommissioners

So Jan 21st-23rd

HCNNC, is making a motion to move the elections to June. Rather than keep going backwards about what didn't happen, I think we should focus on having an election where we can do outreach and invite other NCs to be a part of LANNC. Again, we have only 20 NCs represented in LANNC

We have always allowed the NC to decide on its own how their reps are selected.

And we have been beating this drum for over a year

All interested candidates must submit their name, the board seat they are running for and a maximum 250word candidate statement. Upon receipt and verification of NC representative status by the LANCCElection Committee, you are a candidate. Submit, via e-mail only to lanccelection@gmail.com no laterthan February 1, 2023. No phone calls or late submissions will be accepted. Candidate's names, positionrunning for and statements will be compiled by the LANCC Election Committee and sent out to theLANCC e-mail list no later than February 3, 2023. This same candidate list will also be posted to theLANCC web site. Elections .are on March 4, 2023

You do not need to be a board member to be a liaison

Should the people running for office not be up for election in 2023?

If a person becomes ineligible for an office, LANCC can hold an election to fill the vacancy.

I agree with Lauren. We should wait until after the elections for NCs to have the LANNC elections.

Not just stepping up as officer/victims, but as Elections Committee...

I think we can adopt these Elections Rules but I would still suggest postponing the LANCC Elections until after the NC Elections.

I will accept Adriana's amendment to my motion to postpone the election to April (instead of June)

Can Miho withdraw her motion?

Sooner is better than later re new board members

Sure, I can withdraw my motion or just agree to Adriana's amendment

With no objections, we have updated your original motion...we're ready to vote for April

Kay is right. That is why SOONER is better.

Great idea Sid!

Ours was much smaller, but we had a lot of comments about how things like it never happen in our neighborhood

The neighbors and kids had a great time

One of the dumbest projects I have ever hear of. Thanks for bringing it up!

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Can't it go also to the Griffith Park Pleasure Pier?

There was a gondola proposed for Griffith Park that was beat back, but who knows if that proposal will be revived?

Right...Mt Hollywood if I remember correctly...

I think the target land was secured, limiting the likelihood of such uses.

Check Eventbrite for CERT - I am starting one in woodland hills thursday

PSA: CicLAvia - The Valley is next month!!! Bike 🚲

You always keep on top of all the events, Lionel. I don't know how you have the energy.

https://www.eventbrite.com/o/lafd-cert-program-7803155391

Looks like a $300 to $400 million gondola, although they are still not providing a funding plan or any budget.

And that is to go 1.2 miles.

Until a small lot with house by a famous architect--within Tom's CD4--was slipped through by the developer not admitting its significance. Then he joined the bandwagon in fighting it, unsuccessfully.

Thanks, Jennifer!

LOL, Glenn. They do not want to hear from us. It is on purpose.

https://dpw.lacity.org/commissioners-boardroom/community-forest-advisory-committee

And there is also the "e-comment" opportunity that is allowed by the LADWP Board. Both the visible online meeting and acceptance of "e-comments" are good practices. Npte that an "e-comment" is NOT the same as the in-person, rfeal time pub;ic comment under theBrown Act.

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