Running USA Virtual Race Camp: Developing new running event best practices post COVID-19 - Shared screen with speaker view
We can see you Paul. Leah will unmute you when it is your turn to speak
From laurie gestal to All panelists: (04:10 PM) Q: how would you deal with runner privacy asking for personal health data?
Ryan Callahan 04:11 PMCurious about liability and class action lawsuits. If we take a best practices approach but a flare up happens at our event, how do we protect ourselves from some kind of lawsuit? Are insurance underwriters willing to offer these protections for events that happen over the next 12 months?
So Berlin just cancelled, when will it be safe and who goes first and at what risk?
From Charlie Harr to All panelists and attendees: (04:12 PM) So Berlin just cancelled, when will it be safe and who goes first and at what risk?
@RyanCallahan, Insurance underwriters will without a doubt not be willing to cover that in the policy.
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:13 PM) How do you minimize false answers on Race Safe app?
From J to All panelists: (04:14 PM) Best practices on safety and runners health protects the host from liability - as well asking leading experts on their advices and working with authorities
Check again at Race Kit pickup.
From Albert Ngai to All panelists and attendees: (04:15 PM) Check again at Race Kit pickup.
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:20 PM) Concern about medical staff-- being available and willing to come, especially nurses.
Alan Whitehead 04:21 PMDo we offer masks, gloves and possibly fade shields to our race volunteers so both the participants and volunteers feel safe?
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:22 PM) This might be jumping the gun but any thoughts on presence/absence of cups at the water stops? Ultra races have been cupless for a while but that’s not feasible for a large road event.
@Francescaonte: something we plan to address...
Alan Whitehead 04:24 PMAt expo just limit amount of participants at one time or expand hours or dates
From jason libbert to All panelists: (04:24 PM) Thoughts on temperature scanners at start of race or corral area before people get "close" to everyone else?
From Dylan Hammon to All panelists: (04:24 PM) Do you have thoughts about Expo areas that are a part of the main race venue? Outdoor, in close proximity to registration, volunteers, etc.
Lots of great questions here. We encourage everyone to take any unanswered and new questions to the Running USA Campfire Facebook page and continue the dialogue if we do not get to your question here
From Anthony Luke to All panelists: (04:26 PM) For question about runner privacy asking for personal health data, the system should be secure. The standard is HIPAA compliant like hospital information. Explaining the security to participants is important. Also limiting the access to the data internally would be for medical team and key operations who need to know about safety. At end of day, the information is basic and similar to back of bib info. Its up to runners to be responsible and honest for safety of all. (Anthony Luke MD, RaceSafe)
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:28 PM) Will you address water points and food stations on race courses as well with ideas?
Michelle La Sala
Charlie - we will be getting to this next
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:29 PM) But doesn’t spreading out T-shirts or shuttle queues simply delay when we put large groups together. IE, if we spread out the line for the bus, we negate that once people board?
From Carolyn Redmond to All panelists: (04:30 PM) Any thoughts on how to best manage social distancing in corrals?
From Amy Marquez to All panelists: (04:34 PM) Thoughts on post race parties/activities/ awards and managing social distancing after the race.
Michelle La Sala
Amy, we will be addressing this as well.
6 square feet or 36 square feet?
Ill post on the FB page as well - but thoughts on bus transportation for point to point events? Hard to socially distance on a bus with 60 other people.
6 ft in each direction means 12x12 or 144 sq. ft per person. doesn’t seem possible
From Carly Samuelsonc to All panelists: (04:37 PM) Have any races investigated virtual event opportunities as an alternative given the fact that the future of large events is uncertain?
From Courtney Young to All panelists: (04:38 PM) How would having your own cup work for a trail run with a few thousand people? Does anyone have experience with that and not having it bottleneck?
From Gina Pharis to All panelists: (04:38 PM) Are we asking runners to run with a mask?
not sure how you distance runners especially at the early Water points-- will runners skip and then move the risk elsewhere?
From Sheila Sutton to All panelists: (04:39 PM) How is a running using a "self-serve" station safer than a volunteer with gloves on? I would think this would create a new problem.
From Paul Brackey to All panelists: (04:40 PM) For Shuttle buses, one corporate event in Chicago in August will only allow 50% capacity to allow space, but still is very close and thinking of 2X or 3X as many buses would be tough for us to be able to provide.
From Antonio Yamanaka to All panelists: (04:41 PM) Curious about the safety concerns of BYOB which will lead to CamelBack style packs. That’s a lot of bags to search, tag and approve in corrals
From Steve Fleck to All panelists: (04:41 PM) Some of the cycling Gran Fondos use the Water Monster water tanks, and ALL riders need to fill there own bottles when and as needed. Cuts WAY down on volunteers. Not ideal for running, but just an idea.
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:42 PM) Paul, not only are you looking at 2x or 3x but also slower movements
From Aletta Martin to All panelists: (04:41 PM) Gloves don’t really help. They are for cross contamination. If a volunteer wears gloves and then touches their face it is no different than if they have no gloves on
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:43 PM) Any thoughts on gels?
From Paul Brackey to All panelists: (04:44 PM) Charlie - yes for sure it would slow down and require much more space to facilitate, but to your point earlier, if an event doesn’t space people out on a bus, then spacing out while they line up doesn’t make sense. It may be the best option is not providing transportation options if it creates crowding.
From Jim Furuya to All panelists: (04:46 PM) Are there concerns that health officials would require events to treat used disposable cups, discarded gel packs as potential biohazard waste?
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:46 PM) Ultimately some of the changes should remain permanent as they will make events safer'
From Victoria Brumfield to All panelists: (04:46 PM) How best to manage awards ceremonies
From Alexandra Weissner to All panelists: (04:46 PM) If we have to cancel part of the experience, are we all willing to decrease the entry fees?
So are we mandating or encouraging wearing masks if we give them out instead of a t-shirt? again risks with wearing masks, need to really enhance the messaging
From Charlie Harr to All panelists and attendees: (04:48 PM) So are we mandating or encouraging wearing masks if we give them out instead of a t-shirt? again risks with wearing masks, need to really enhance the messaging
ALL: If you have input or suggestions, please open the Participants window and click Raise My Hand
From Creigh Kelley to All panelists: (04:49 PM) In this world of listening to doctors, it might be prudent for RUSA to invite 6 or 8 Running Event Medical Directors to have a group discussion to address many of these questions being posed. They could begin to develop new best practices to avoid our less than perfect opinion driven responses. Perhaps Dr. Luke could organize?
From Ryan Dawkins to All panelists: (04:50 PM) Spot on Creigh
ALL: If you would like to add input, please open the Participants window and click Raise My Hand
From chris burch to All panelists: (04:52 PM) Spectators. Discourage them from coming?
From Creigh Kelley to All panelists: (04:52 PM) To my recommendation, they could try to advance a scalable list of best practices (under 500 entrants, 500-1000, 1000-5000)?
From Danette Felt to All panelists: (04:52 PM) If switching to a virtual race, who do we best discourage people from gathering and running the course? *how:)
Has anyone gotten insight into what the larger players are doing - like Professional sports spectators or Las Vegas?
@Danette: the BAA has done a good job of discouraging people from running the official course.
Thank you Creigh - yes. We can talk all we want about this, but really this is going to, and should come down to what Public Health and Medical professionals are saying!
From Aletta Martin to All panelists: (04:55 PM) The professional baseball league in Taiwan is playing without spectators. And they are way ahead of the US in keeping their COVID-19 numbers down
A disclaimer would have to be written on the event website for spectators that they come at their own risk. Suggestions could be included: Avoid crowded zones downtown. Go to more open areas on the route. No high fives.
In case it is useful, here is a blog about the math you can do to calculate what your start line bottleneck would look like. It is just one aspect, but we will be publishing other thoughts as well and share them - https://runsignup.blog/2020/04/21/starting-line-bottleneck-analysis-post-covid-19/
From Pat McCloskey to All panelists: (04:58 PM) we never talked about toilet issues
Please make sure to move your additional questions over to the Running USA Campfire Facebook page. Let’s keep the conversations moving.
Thanks for having these camps, chance to share, ask and learn
Thank you. Nice to see some of your faces and see some of your names in chat.
This was super.
Ounce again, thank you Rich and team