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Running USA Virtual Race Camp: Developing new running event best practices post COVID-19 - Shared screen with speaker view
Stacy Embretson
34:35
We can see you Paul. Leah will unmute you when it is your turn to speak
Rich Harshbarger
43:01
From laurie gestal to All panelists: (04:10 PM)
Q: how would you deal with runner privacy asking for personal health data?
Rich Harshbarger
43:52
Ryan Callahan 04:11 PMCurious about liability and class action lawsuits. If we take a best practices approach but a flare up happens at our event, how do we protect ourselves from some kind of lawsuit? Are insurance underwriters willing to offer these protections for events that happen over the next 12 months?
Charlie Harr
43:52
So Berlin just cancelled, when will it be safe and who goes first and at what risk?
Rich Harshbarger
44:05
From Charlie Harr to All panelists and attendees: (04:12 PM)
So Berlin just cancelled, when will it be safe and who goes first and at what risk?
Albert Ngai
45:41
@RyanCallahan, Insurance underwriters will without a doubt not be willing to cover that in the policy.
Rich Harshbarger
46:05
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:13 PM)
How do you minimize false answers on Race Safe app?
Rich Harshbarger
46:35
From J to All panelists: (04:14 PM)
Best practices on safety and runners health protects the host from liability - as well asking leading experts on their advices and working with authorities
Albert Ngai
46:41
Check again at Race Kit pickup.
Rich Harshbarger
46:53
From Albert Ngai to All panelists and attendees: (04:15 PM)
Check again at Race Kit pickup.
Rich Harshbarger
52:47
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:20 PM)
Concern about medical staff-- being available and willing to come, especially nurses.
Rich Harshbarger
53:46
Alan Whitehead 04:21 PMDo we offer masks, gloves and possibly fade shields to our race volunteers so both the participants and volunteers feel safe?
Rich Harshbarger
54:22
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:22 PM)
This might be jumping the gun but any thoughts on presence/absence of cups at the water stops? Ultra races have been cupless for a while but that’s not feasible for a large road event.
Rich Harshbarger
55:05
@Francescaonte: something we plan to address...
Rich Harshbarger
56:02
Alan Whitehead 04:24 PMAt expo just limit amount of participants at one time or expand hours or dates
Rich Harshbarger
56:52
From jason libbert to All panelists: (04:24 PM)
Thoughts on temperature scanners at start of race or corral area before people get "close" to everyone else?
Rich Harshbarger
57:06
From Dylan Hammon to All panelists: (04:24 PM)
Do you have thoughts about Expo areas that are a part of the main race venue? Outdoor, in close proximity to registration, volunteers, etc.
Christine Bowen
57:28
Lots of great questions here. We encourage everyone to take any unanswered and new questions to the Running USA Campfire Facebook page and continue the dialogue if we do not get to your question here
Rich Harshbarger
58:54
From Anthony Luke to All panelists: (04:26 PM)
For question about runner privacy asking for personal health data, the system should be secure. The standard is HIPAA compliant like hospital information. Explaining the security to participants is important. Also limiting the access to the data internally would be for medical team and key operations who need to know about safety. At end of day, the information is basic and similar to back of bib info. Its up to runners to be responsible and honest for safety of all. (Anthony Luke MD, RaceSafe)
Rich Harshbarger
01:00:39
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:28 PM)
Will you address water points and food stations on race courses as well with ideas?
Michelle La Sala
01:00:46
yes
Stacy Embretson
01:00:54
Charlie - we will be getting to this next
Rich Harshbarger
01:01:30
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:29 PM)
But doesn’t spreading out T-shirts or shuttle queues simply delay when we put large groups together. IE, if we spread out the line for the bus, we negate that once people board?
Rich Harshbarger
01:02:24
From Carolyn Redmond to All panelists: (04:30 PM)
Any thoughts on how to best manage social distancing in corrals?
Rich Harshbarger
01:06:01
From Amy Marquez to All panelists: (04:34 PM)
Thoughts on post race parties/activities/ awards and managing social distancing after the race.
Michelle La Sala
01:06:23
Amy, we will be addressing this as well.
Bob Bickel
01:06:35
6 square feet or 36 square feet?
Stacey Todd
01:08:17
Ill post on the FB page as well - but thoughts on bus transportation for point to point events? Hard to socially distance on a bus with 60 other people.
chris weiler
01:08:44
6 ft in each direction means 12x12 or 144 sq. ft per person. doesn’t seem possible
Rich Harshbarger
01:09:39
From Carly Samuelsonc to All panelists: (04:37 PM)
Have any races investigated virtual event opportunities as an alternative given the fact that the future of large events is uncertain?
Rich Harshbarger
01:10:09
From Courtney Young to All panelists: (04:38 PM)
How would having your own cup work for a trail run with a few thousand people? Does anyone have experience with that and not having it bottleneck?
Rich Harshbarger
01:10:51
From Gina Pharis to All panelists: (04:38 PM)
Are we asking runners to run with a mask?
Charlie Harr
01:10:55
not sure how you distance runners especially at the early Water points-- will runners skip and then move the risk elsewhere?
Rich Harshbarger
01:11:50
From Sheila Sutton to All panelists: (04:39 PM)
How is a running using a "self-serve" station safer than a volunteer with gloves on? I would think this would create a new problem.
Rich Harshbarger
01:12:36
From Paul Brackey to All panelists: (04:40 PM)
For Shuttle buses, one corporate event in Chicago in August will only allow 50% capacity to allow space, but still is very close and thinking of 2X or 3X as many buses would be tough for us to be able to provide.
Rich Harshbarger
01:12:59
From Antonio Yamanaka to All panelists: (04:41 PM)
Curious about the safety concerns of BYOB which will lead to CamelBack style packs. That’s a lot of bags to search, tag and approve in corrals
Rich Harshbarger
01:13:21
From Steve Fleck to All panelists: (04:41 PM)
Some of the cycling Gran Fondos use the Water Monster water tanks, and ALL riders need to fill there own bottles when and as needed. Cuts WAY down on volunteers. Not ideal for running, but just an idea.
Rich Harshbarger
01:13:53
From Charlie Harr to All panelists: (04:42 PM)
Paul, not only are you looking at 2x or 3x but also slower movements
Rich Harshbarger
01:14:11
From Aletta Martin to All panelists: (04:41 PM)
Gloves don’t really help. They are for cross contamination. If a volunteer wears gloves and then touches their face it is no different than if they have no gloves on
Rich Harshbarger
01:15:30
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:43 PM)
Any thoughts on gels?
Rich Harshbarger
01:16:35
From Paul Brackey to All panelists: (04:44 PM)
Charlie - yes for sure it would slow down and require much more space to facilitate, but to your point earlier, if an event doesn’t space people out on a bus, then spacing out while they line up doesn’t make sense. It may be the best option is not providing transportation options if it creates crowding.
Rich Harshbarger
01:18:19
From Jim Furuya to All panelists: (04:46 PM)
Are there concerns that health officials would require events to treat used disposable cups, discarded gel packs as potential biohazard waste?
Rich Harshbarger
01:18:32
From francescaconte to All panelists: (04:46 PM)
Ultimately some of the changes should remain permanent as they will make events safer'
Rich Harshbarger
01:18:41
From Victoria Brumfield to All panelists: (04:46 PM)
How best to manage awards ceremonies
Rich Harshbarger
01:18:58
From Alexandra Weissner to All panelists: (04:46 PM)
If we have to cancel part of the experience, are we all willing to decrease the entry fees?
Charlie Harr
01:20:01
So are we mandating or encouraging wearing masks if we give them out instead of a t-shirt? again risks with wearing masks, need to really enhance the messaging
Rich Harshbarger
01:20:16
From Charlie Harr to All panelists and attendees: (04:48 PM)
So are we mandating or encouraging wearing masks if we give them out instead of a t-shirt? again risks with wearing masks, need to really enhance the messaging
Rich Harshbarger
01:20:57
ALL: If you have input or suggestions, please open the Participants window and click Raise My Hand
Rich Harshbarger
01:21:23
From Creigh Kelley to All panelists: (04:49 PM)
In this world of listening to doctors, it might be prudent for RUSA to invite 6 or 8 Running Event Medical Directors to have a group discussion to address many of these questions being posed. They could begin to develop new best practices to avoid our less than perfect opinion driven responses. Perhaps Dr. Luke could organize?
Rich Harshbarger
01:21:59
From Ryan Dawkins to All panelists: (04:50 PM)
Spot on Creigh
Rich Harshbarger
01:22:44
Thanks Anthony.
Rich Harshbarger
01:23:12
ALL: If you would like to add input, please open the Participants window and click Raise My Hand
Rich Harshbarger
01:23:57
From chris burch to All panelists: (04:52 PM)
Spectators. Discourage them from coming?
Rich Harshbarger
01:24:12
From Creigh Kelley to All panelists: (04:52 PM)
To my recommendation, they could try to advance a scalable list of best practices (under 500 entrants, 500-1000, 1000-5000)?
Rich Harshbarger
01:24:41
From Danette Felt to All panelists: (04:52 PM)
If switching to a virtual race, who do we best discourage people from gathering and running the course?
*how:)
Bob Bickel
01:25:19
Has anyone gotten insight into what the larger players are doing - like Professional sports spectators or Las Vegas?
Rich Harshbarger
01:25:24
@Danette: the BAA has done a good job of discouraging people from running the official course.
Steve Fleck
01:26:47
Thank you Creigh - yes. We can talk all we want about this, but really this is going to, and should come down to what Public Health and Medical professionals are saying!
Rich Harshbarger
01:27:03
From Aletta Martin to All panelists: (04:55 PM)
The professional baseball league in Taiwan is playing without spectators. And they are way ahead of the US in keeping their COVID-19 numbers down
Albert Ngai
01:27:16
A disclaimer would have to be written on the event website for spectators that they come at their own risk. Suggestions could be included: Avoid crowded zones downtown. Go to more open areas on the route. No high fives.
Bob Bickel
01:29:36
In case it is useful, here is a blog about the math you can do to calculate what your start line bottleneck would look like. It is just one aspect, but we will be publishing other thoughts as well and share them - https://runsignup.blog/2020/04/21/starting-line-bottleneck-analysis-post-covid-19/
Rich Harshbarger
01:30:42
From Pat McCloskey to All panelists: (04:58 PM)
we never talked about toilet issues
Christine Bowen
01:31:03
Please make sure to move your additional questions over to the Running USA Campfire Facebook page. Let’s keep the conversations moving.
Charlie Harr
01:31:32
Thanks for having these camps, chance to share, ask and learn
Bob Bickel
01:31:44
Thank you!
Lisa Reeves
01:31:53
Thank you!
Anthony Valentino
01:32:11
Thank you. Nice to see some of your faces and see some of your names in chat.
Albert Ngai
01:32:13
This was super.
Steve Fleck
01:32:14
Ounce again, thank you Rich and team