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Jenn Stewart
17:54
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1LjYCVhl7wL0eAi1DFUOL27Q0BCxyjnh3yKwwjOB_yX0/edit?usp=sharing
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
18:51
We want to hear your voices and concerns about moving into/serving in these positions!
Darci Thoune
19:33
Thanks, Mark!
Michelle Lafrance
19:38
Hi everyone! My bandwidth won’t allow me to participate fully, but I’m hear listening and watching you be phenomenal! :)
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
19:51
Yes, it’s being recorded
Stephanie Liu-Rojas (she/her/hers)
20:05
I'm having difficult hearing the spearker, is anyone else getting choppy audio?
Nicole Weaver
20:10
audio cutting in and out for anyone else?
Amy Cicchino
20:11
Same
Stephanie Liu-Rojas (she/her/hers)
20:12
difficulty*
Sara Beam
20:13
Yes very choppy
Jennifer Wilson
20:13
yes
Terri Pantuso
20:13
same
Erick Piller
20:13
Same
Sarah Zurhellen
20:14
Yes
courtneyhoffman
20:14
Yes
Darci Thoune
20:14
Yeah, me too
dalyn
20:15
Yes, the audio is very choppy.
Joanna Johnson
20:15
Yes it’s choppy
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
20:15
yes
Lynn Russell
20:17
Super choppy
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
20:18
yes
Ashanka Kumari
20:18
Yes, same
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
20:33
That's better.
Ashanka Kumari
20:38
Much better! :)
Sara Beam
20:39
Better, thank you!
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
21:00
yes, thanks
CWPA President
26:00
Facial meta commentary! :)
Jenn Stewart
28:38
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tdu1tDEBPuRye4lImzziyIl0TF9KKBeU5XDjsnG4DSk/edit?usp=sharing
Darci Thoune
28:47
Thanks, Jean!
Darci Thoune
28:50
Jenn!!!
Ashanka Kumari
29:34
Yes, thanks Jenn! Much appreciate the thinking through who your local allies are.
Darci Thoune
31:48
This is such a stressful situation, but you’ve captured the real issues at stake, Duane.
CWPA President
41:26
Great book
Darci Thoune
41:43
An essential read, for sure
Kaitlin Clinnin
42:00
At one point in the past two months, a used copy of that book cost $971
CWPA President
42:09
!!!!!!!
Sarah Polo
42:12
Can someone list the title again?
Madelyn Fox-Defago
42:40
Kitchen Cooks, Plate Twirlers, and Troubadours
Lilian Mina
42:45
Duane is a phenomenal WPA mentor.
Sarah Polo
42:45
Thank you!
Darci Thoune
42:45
https://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Cooks-Twirlers-Troubadours-Crosscurrents/dp/0867094567
Jenn Stewart
43:24
WPA workshops cohorts are so important. If you can do it, DO IT.
Patti Poblete
43:39
You might also find the text rattling around your ILL system
Lilian Mina
43:50
Jenn, I can’t say enough about my CWPA workshop cohort.
Darci Thoune
44:11
Sherry’s right about the workshop—it changed my whole outlook about the job. SO GOOD.
CWPA President
44:21
We will have the workshop in Reno next year, with Darci, Michelle, and Mark McBeth facilitating!
Lilian Mina
46:06
Absolutely, Sherry.
Darci Thoune
46:14
*snaps*
Lilian Mina
46:15
Creative and resourceful
CWPA President
46:57
Maybe post that spreadsheet link again?
Jenn Stewart
47:01
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tdu1tDEBPuRye4lImzziyIl0TF9KKBeU5XDjsnG4DSk/edit?usp=sharing
CWPA President
47:04
Thanks!!
Sara Beam
47:12
yes
Sara Humphreys
47:19
Sounds good
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
47:43
Stuart Brown’s article “Apply Ethics: A Decision-Making Heuristic for Writing Program Administrators”
Darci Thoune
47:50
Thanks, Sherry!
Lilian Mina
48:10
Sherry, which year?
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
48:34
(2002)
Lilian Mina
48:46
Thanks
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
49:27
The "Problem/Situation/Concern" content disappeared
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
49:27
It’s inside the collection: The Writing Program Administrator’s Resources: A Guide to Reflective Institutional Practice
Sara Humphreys
49:29
I was late - are we supposed to be filling out the spreadsheet?
Sara Humphreys
49:37
I could probably fill every cell…
Darci Thoune
49:53
You can fill it out if you like, or use it later—up to you!
Jenn Stewart
51:43
Thanks, Traci. I'll fix and freeze those cells
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
52:06
Sounds good, Jenn
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
53:46
This is that part where no one in the class volunteers
CWPA President
54:22
Ha!
Jennifer Wilson
54:36
Part of our professional development this year is going to be funded by our Center for Teaching Excellence. Also, that center is going to provide some of our PD training for no charge.
Michelle Lafrance
54:40
Sherry is one of my favorites. :)
Jennifer Wilson
55:17
I went looking for allies/partners on campus, and our Center for Teaching Excellence was interested in working together, in part because we've supported some of their programming in the past, too.
Darci Thoune
55:48
Magic words: retention and graduation rates.
Lilian Mina
56:01
And student success
Megan McIntyre
57:33
Having access, too, to the school and program data is super important.
Jennifer Wilson
57:44
Allies -- I've started make lunch or coffee dates with new program directors on campus as they're appointed. Some of these have been very fruitful, both for personal support as we navigate new positions and for professional partnerships that can benefit both of our programs. Some of the programs include teaching center, foreign language center, and office of faculty development.
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
57:44
Can someone cite a source on retention?
Darci Thoune
57:58
Make friends with your office if institutional research and your assessment human.
Darci Thoune
58:03
*of
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
58:07
Super smart, Jennifer!
Jennifer Wilson
58:27
Yes, institutional research has been a huge ally for us at Rice!
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
58:30
Andrea, Can you be more specific? What kind of sources on retention?
CWPA President
59:04
This was a great book, but challenges the retention idea: https://www.amazon.com/Retention-Resistance-Writing-Instruction-Students/dp/0874219302
Amy Cicchino
59:12
@Andrea, Ruecker, Shepherd, Estrem, and Brunk-Chavez have a 2017 book: Retention, Persistence, and Writing Programs
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
59:15
Sorry, sources/resources on student engagement? The kinds of things provosts are reading.
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
59:26
At small colleges we don't have these point people.
CWPA President
59:32
Yes, great advice from Amy, great advice from Duane
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
59:40
Yes, Amy, the Ruecker et al text
Joanna Johnson
01:00:00
ruecker text is great
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
01:00:08
Thank you, Amy!
Lilian Mina
01:00:13
Retention, Persistence, and Writing Programs, edited by Todd Ruecker et al., Utah State University Press
Sara Humphreys
01:00:29
Yes!
Michelle Lafrance
01:00:51
Absolutely; it’s not a given these offices will work with you. You just have to keep asking. Support from your Chiat and a dean may help.
Lilian Mina
01:01:13
Use your allies to get access to data
Michelle Lafrance
01:01:23
Sometimes they, too, are underfunded and understaffed.
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
01:01:30
I did, until I volunteered to help train other faculty on the new resources to help track data and do early alerts. Now, I have access to a lot of data.
Patti Poblete
01:02:19
Yes--my position is relatively new, so nobody knew it would be helpful. My chair was happy to hand over the data because he could offload some of the work/worry to me :)
Kristin Prins
01:02:31
Another tactic I’ve used is through advising
Megan McIntyre
01:02:39
Advising is such a good idea!
Joanna Johnson
01:02:48
Accreditation office
Kristin Prins
01:02:58
I’ve gotten super close to our University and College-level advising centers, and they’ve helped advocate for me getting database accsss
Michelle Lafrance
01:03:10
Agreed. We can’t help you solve problems if we don’t know the terrain we’re looking at.
Sara Humphreys
01:03:22
We got to oknow the registrar well.
Lydia Wilkes
01:03:41
The associate registrar is the data person here, along with the IR person.
Jennifer Wilson
01:03:49
Yes, we can request a lot of data (much more than you might expect) through a form on the registrar's website.
Kristin Prins
01:03:49
Registrar’s a good idea (ours is trash, but on another campus, that’s a good role to access)
Sara Humphreys
01:04:04
Our “data wizard” does not track anything for our program (!) but through the registrar has lots of power to ask for data
Megan McIntyre
01:04:12
We also have a brand new registrar.
Kristin Prins
01:04:19
Ack :/
Sara Humphreys
01:04:41
Ours was new too. We invited her to give a pro-d and she was really happy…relationship built!
Kristin Prins
01:04:57
That’s a great idea, Sara!
Megan McIntyre
01:05:03
@Sara: such a great idea.
Sara Humphreys
01:05:07
Yeah, lots of tough situations here….
Patti Poblete
01:05:10
Depending on institutional context, but one place I found the person who was literally in charge of giving people access to that data in the database--he was waiting for people to tell him who needed it!
Jennifer Wilson
01:05:18
I have found joining university committee has been helpful to meet people on campus (like senior people in registrar's office) and build those relationships.
Patti Poblete
01:05:38
Oh, if your campus has a Gen Ed program, they can be pretty helpful
Lilian Mina
01:05:47
I’ll be happy to talk about that maybe if people hang out here later.
Lydia Wilkes
01:06:02
We have a Gen Ed Assessment Committee that could be tapped for data, too.
Jessica Jorgenson Borchert
01:07:54
This has all been really great. I also want to add that I also have found it important to join committees. I know we are all very stretched, but that was the best way for me to meet with allies and other stakeholders.
Jenn Stewart
01:08:07
Regarding the spreadsheet, it was inspired by Katilin Clinnin's work at CWPA in 2018. This work is in “Professional Development for Research-Writing Instructors: A Collaborative Approach” by Melissa Bowles-Terry and Kaitlin Clinnin in Communications in Information Literacy December 2020. She's here if you want to poke at her for it. :)
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:08:12
Lydia's cat!
Sara Humphreys
01:08:26
I joined the union committees (if you have a union) - they can also be hcelfuland have a lot of access to data
Lilian Mina
01:08:33
Lydia, where’s the rest of your herd?
CWPA President
01:08:35
I really like the idea of joining committees—it’s work, but it brings you in contact with people from across campus
Lydia Wilkes
01:09:08
Henry the cat says hello and that he’s hungry. The others are napping.
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:09:47
Dear Henry, I have some tuna. Come on over. Hugs!
Patti Poblete
01:10:27
Find out who's on Faculty Senate--if they can't assist, they often know who can/will
MelvinBeavers
01:10:48
Good point, Duane
Kristin Prins
01:11:38
That’s a great idea, Patti!
Jennifer Wilson
01:11:50
We actually have an NTT faculty member who won a seat on the faculty senate, which has been a huge boon for our program.
Erick Piller
01:12:12
Have to step out, but thanks, everyone!
MelvinBeavers
01:12:13
Great discussion. Thanks for your time.
Amy Cicchino
01:12:16
Thank you, everyone!
courtneyhoffman
01:12:18
Thank you!
Jessica Jorgenson Borchert
01:12:18
Thank you, all!
Patti Poblete
01:12:18
Make friends with the student representative in Faculty Senate
Terri Pantuso
01:12:20
Thank you!
Katelynn DeLuca
01:12:21
Thank you so much, all!
Sara Beam
01:12:21
Thanks, everyone!
CWPA President
01:12:36
Ha ha!
Sara Humphreys
01:12:37
Really great discussion - is there a reading list available with the materials you’ve suggested?
Jennifer Wilson
01:12:39
Thank you!
Kristin Prins
01:12:43
Thanks, all!
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:12:58
Thank you, everyone. I have some students who need feedback, so I'm taking off
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
01:13:13
I’d love to hear more about that, Lilian
Sara Humphreys
01:13:39
Thanks!
Lilian Mina
01:13:48
Sure thing
Lydia Wilkes
01:14:14
Joanna, I was in that situation with my chair.
Sara Humphreys
01:14:25
Me too - very interested in this
Joanna Johnson
01:19:46
Colleagues here! Very helpful!
Michelle Lafrance
01:19:50
Hey, y’all—there is a hammock with my name on it and family drama to get back to. It was lovely to see you all! :)
Joanna Johnson
01:19:59
Such a support system through CWPA etc
Darci Thoune
01:20:00
Bye, Michelle!
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
01:20:02
Take care, Michelle
CWPA President
01:22:32
Remember, all, that the whole conference schedule is here: http://wpacouncil.org/aws/CWPA/pt/sp/virtual_conference
CWPA President
01:23:05
Amen!
Sarah Polo
01:23:13
I'm writing that down-- this is a JOB.
Joanna Johnson
01:23:32
Did anyone call the police?
Lydia Wilkes
01:23:33
Doug Hesse’s “What is a Personal Life?” Is one of my favorite takes on work-life balance.
Lydia Wilkes
01:23:41
It’s in A Rhetoric for Writing Program Admilnistrators
Megan McIntyre
01:24:28
AMTH!
Megan McIntyre
01:24:30
Math!
Lydia Wilkes
01:25:02
I helped a colleague in Business assess our Professional Writing courses for their majors.
Patti Poblete
01:25:20
If your campus has a dedicated tutoring center (not necessarily writing) they can be super helpful
Darci Thoune
01:26:24
Totally true, Patti.
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
01:26:57
The amount of service should be driven by your bylaws. Yep, Megan!
Darci Thoune
01:27:05
That’s the other thing I was going to suggest—when or if you have time, serving on your faculty senate is very enlightening.
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
01:27:08
Service will not get you tenure at my campus
Lydia Wilkes
01:27:52
Service was not going to be valued in my T&P dossier, either. I’m at an R3.
Lilian Mina
01:28:38
Service has little weight in my annual review and my T&P. Scholarship and teaching are the two major things.
Darci Thoune
01:28:45
Same here.
Lydia Wilkes
01:31:32
Teaching matters the most here, scholarship is a close second.
Lydia Wilkes
01:31:46
And service a distant, distant third
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
01:32:18
Right on!
CWPA President
01:33:42
Great advice in this session.
Joanna Johnson
01:33:51
Great advice, yes. thanks
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
01:34:02
Thank you all so much!
CWPA President
01:34:04
I will be posting the recording once I figure out how to do that. ;-)
Lydia Wilkes
01:34:04
Thanks, everyone! This session was great!
Sarah Polo
01:34:08
Thank you all!
Joanna Johnson
01:34:11
Thank Mark!
CWPA President
01:34:12
ha ha ha!
Joanna Johnson
01:34:15
And everyone
Kelly Moreland
01:34:19
Thank you all!!
Megan McIntyre
01:34:22
Please tell your kitties hi for me, Lydia.
Brooke Rollins
01:34:23
This has been so helpful! Thank you all so much!!