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Index Community Conversation: On Hope - Shared screen with speaker view
Ana Luisa
01:17
the more you know!
Ana Luisa
08:17
:world emoji:
katharinakorbjuhn
08:25
new york 🙂
Mavis/Yue Cao
08:30
Hi from the sunny LA
Ritik Dholakia
08:32
Hi, thanks for making it happen. Ritik from Studio Rodrigo in Brooklyn NY
Ryan Marvin
08:35
Hi. Ryan from Nairobi, Kenya
tilly glascodine
08:39
Melbourne australia :)
Zach Whitworth
08:40
Southern Oregon, USA
Taline
08:42
Hello, from Lisbon :)
rachel a
09:16
Hey from Edinburgh, Scotland
Mavis/Yue Cao
18:54
Sorry - Should we see the presentation changing? Since on my end it appears to be staying the first page
Elie Andersen
19:18
I think it’s just a listening thing!
Sam Taylor
19:28
Oh yeah maybe they haven’t clicked through a slide yet?
Mavis/Yue Cao
19:38
Thanks! Just making sure my zoom is okay
Sam Taylor
20:42
Oh wait I think they are clicking through something we just aren’t seeing it
tilly glascodine
21:57
Amazing thank you so much Ana!!
Taline
24:07
That was soo amazing! Thank you for sharing it with us Ana!
Mavis/Yue Cao
24:18
Thank you Ana!
tilly glascodine
25:01
Could we please see your question again? I want to screen shot <3
Sam Taylor
25:24
The last slide?
tilly glascodine
25:45
Thanks!
Taline
26:39
I'm curious on how we can create online communities to be hopeful together, specially when we hear so much noise from social media, and it is so easy to lose hope over things. Are there spaces like this? I want to be part of it lol
Elie Andersen
27:05
Welcome to index taline
Taline
28:10
Yeeees, that was such a great answer!
Taline
28:32
thinking of how we can use these tools for us, and not letting them use us
Elie Andersen
33:25
Thank you ana!!!
Ana Luisa
33:26
thank you sm!!
Taline
33:39
thank you!
Elie Andersen
40:13
Literal chills
Ana Luisa
40:22
same
Taline
40:55
im speechless
tilly glascodine
40:58
Sooo good!!!
Elie Andersen
41:02
I’m crying
Ana Luisa
41:12
Amazing thank you so much
tilly glascodine
41:27
Had never thought about placebos like this!!
Sam Taylor
41:34
Sameeee
rachel a
42:44
This is so great - I have to go as it’s pretty late here but thanks so much Index and speakers!
Elie Andersen
42:50
<3
cao ray
43:11
medicine has been given to a person, but hope (and its power) grow from him inside out
Elie Andersen
43:41
😍
Elie Andersen
43:49
Love that cao!
Ana Luisa
44:01
amazing
Ryan Marvin
44:10
❤️
Taline
44:18
This topic opens up to so much, and I think your work was so good in exposing what are the human needs in times of body vulnerability, thank you for sharing <3
cao ray
45:18
❤️❤️❤️
katharinakorbjuhn
46:16
hope = belief
Sam Taylor
46:25
Maybe it’s knowing?
Ana Luisa
46:45
I think HOPE is kind of a very specific feeling, a bit beyond expectations
tilly glascodine
47:00
Sooo true I love this answer
Sam Taylor
47:02
+1
katharinakorbjuhn
47:05
opposite of hope = nihilism, disconnectedness from self, common narrative ecetera
tilly glascodine
47:25
Such a beautiful answer
tilly glascodine
50:29
Haha fair enough!
katharinakorbjuhn
50:38
maybe it is about integrating eastern medicine into western medicine
katharinakorbjuhn
51:14
it is much more about a holistic approach including a connection to the patient with the practitioner -- fostering belief, trust, hope
Ana Luisa
51:33
exactly, feels like we’re a super long way from there ):
Sam Taylor
51:50
Gotta break down a lot of systems to get there for sure
Ana Luisa
52:35
Yeah, it is about changing the infrastructure of medicine in a certain wain
tilly glascodine
53:23
It seems like the placebo is a beginning point to question medical systems and I love what it means that you are presenting the placebo as a positive thing!
cao ray
53:28
To me Trust doesn’t equal to authority. Hope comes more from trust, and not necessary authority
katharinakorbjuhn
53:49
so true
Elie Andersen
58:27
I don’t really know what messianic means
Elie Andersen
58:30
Godlike?
Sam Taylor
58:40
Like Messiah
Ana Luisa
58:57
Mesianic is like related to the Messiah
Sam Taylor
59:04
A guardian or guide to peace/righteousness
Elie Andersen
59:05
Yeah but I’m not sure what the messiah is
Elie Andersen
59:07
ah!
katharinakorbjuhn
59:11
beautiful
katharinakorbjuhn
01:02:47
can you share the text after the call?
Anya S
01:02:58
“an ecological view of time” is so strong
Ritik Dholakia
01:03:04
Thank you all, apologies, have to drop.
Sam Taylor
01:03:57
Yeah a view of the text would be great!
Ryan Marvin
01:04:17
Have to go too. Thanks Ana, Mavis and Zach, this was insightful!
katharinakorbjuhn
01:06:52
so here hope is potential?
Elie Andersen
01:07:02
Time = hope?
Anya S
01:08:58
nature isn’t centralized
Elie Andersen
01:10:58
Never heard of that!
Elie Andersen
01:11:12
(The air pollution is not charming in cuba)
Ana Luisa
01:15:22
Yuk Hui
tilly glascodine
01:18:02
Makes me think of the dispossessed by Ursula le Guin and how for something to be utopian is has to be able to change and always be in contestation
Elie Andersen
01:18:39
Love that tilly
Elie Andersen
01:19:37
https://index-space.org/products/the-river-of-consciousness
Elie Andersen
01:19:40
Product plug!
Sam Taylor
01:19:50
wooo
Taline
01:19:57
Have to go, but it was so inspiring to hear from all of you. Looking forward to more of these talks. Thank you people from Index for bringing these humans together 💚
Elie Andersen
01:20:10
<3
Zach Whitworth
01:24:11
Catching up on chat: The messianic or the Messiah is a concept of a savior of humanity who will bring the world into a better age
tilly glascodine
01:25:46
No questions but this was so great thank you all!!
tilly glascodine
01:29:01
Got to go but ❤️❤️❤️
Anya S
01:33:02
Ty so much!
Zach Whitworth
01:33:20
I will drop the text I wrote in the Discord!
Ana Luisa
01:33:25
analuisaf.melo@gmail.com
Mavis/Yue Cao
01:33:26
Instagram: @helloyuecao
Zach Whitworth
01:33:29
zachwhitworth.com