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Liberal Arts Colleges Racial Equity Leadership Alliance eConvening - Accountability and Incentives for Advancing Racial Equity - Shared screen with speaker view
Nina Nguyen
09:04
I am replacing at colleague at this session, thus can I change my name on the screen?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
11:11
Hello Wellesley colleagues!
Keith McIntosh
11:53
Hello from the University of Richmond and Commonwealth of Virginia!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
12:31
Hello from Wellesley College, another Commonwealth (MA)
Linda Boland
12:31
Hello Mac and colleagues near and far! Also zooming in from URichmond
Abdulbast Abushgra
12:45
Hello everyone from Utica College!
Nancy Chick
13:07
Hello from Rollins College in Winter Park, Florida!
Rachel Heiser
13:08
Hello from Bryn Mawr!
Martha O'Leary
13:11
Greetings from Skidmore College in Saratoga Springs, NY!
Brian Kurisky
13:12
Hello from VA Beach - Virginia Wesleyan (waving to U of R from down 64)
Schvalla Rivera
13:18
Hello from Grinnell College, Grinnell, IA
Catia Cecilia Confortini
13:23
Also, a special hello to my PhD alma mater USC!
Brian Cuzzolina
13:27
Hello from Haverford!
Lauren Greenberg
13:28
Hello from Goucher College in Baltimore, MD!
Alex Wirth-Cauchon
13:29
Hello from Mount Holyoke College in western Mass!
Rebecca Downing
13:29
Greetings from Colgate University in Hamilton, NY!
Meredith Bruner
13:30
Hello from Centre College in Danville, Kentucky!
Steve Willis
13:30
Hello from Randolph College in Lynchburg VA
sharon goto
13:33
Hello from Pomona College, Claremont, CA
Catia Cecilia Confortini
13:34
Missing So. Cal. every winter!
Ashlea Schad
13:35
Hi from Utica College in Utica, NY
Jessica Ford
13:37
Hello from NE Ohio! Oberlin College!!
Teresa Amott
13:37
Hello from Knox College, Galesburg, IL!
Anthony Pernell-McGee
13:38
Hello, greetings from Williams-’68 Center for Career Exploration
Rebecca Alexander
13:40
Hello from DePauw University in Greencastle, IN
JENNIFER MURRAY
13:40
Hello from Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, NY!
Marcella Runell Hall
13:50
Thank you so much Shaun! Also, hello from Mount Holyoke College!
Judith Manuel
13:50
Hello from Utica College OT Dept.
Kimberly Spang
13:51
Hi from Lafayette College, Easton, PA.
ISHITA SINHA ROY
13:52
Hello from Allegheny College in northwest Pennsylvania
Elizabeth Hamilton
13:54
Hello from Oberlin College!
LaRee Sugg
13:58
Greetings from University of Richmond...
Rosemarie Hunter
14:05
Hello from Gonzaga - Go Zags!!!
Arch Asawa
14:09
Greetings from Soka University of America in Aliso Viejo, CA!
Michael Gettings
14:18
Greetings from Hollins University in Virginia!
Carol Smith
14:21
Hello from DePauw University, Greencastle, IN!
Lisa Hill
14:25
Hi from Goucher College in Baltimore
Debbie Howell
14:29
Hello from Colorado College in Colorado Springs!
Skylar Bihl
14:33
Greetings from the University of Puget Sound!
Kathleen Murray
14:39
Greetings from Whitman College in Walla Walla, Washington.
Lauren Greenberg
14:41
Hi Lisa!
Angela Miranda-Clark
14:41
Hello from Trinity University in San Antonio!
Sharon Saunders
14:41
Hello from Randolph College in Lynchburg, VA
Ramona Kirsch
14:44
Hello from Hollins University in Roanoke, VA!
KAREN UNGER
14:45
Hello from Bard College
Sara Miller (she/her)
14:52
Good morning from Scripps in Claremont, CA!
Wendy-Marie Martin
14:56
Hello from Hollins University via Athens, OH.
Jamila Bookwala
15:08
Greetings from Lafayette College in Easton, PA!
Jenifer Ward
15:12
Hello from Luther College in Decorah, Iowa.
Sharon Parkinson
15:12
Good Day from Vassar College!
Toby Davis
15:15
Hello from Smith College!
Erik Thompson
15:17
Hello from Goucher College in Baltimore Co., MD
Cathy Gillis
15:17
Good morning from Colorado College!
Audrey Bilger
15:21
Greetings from Reed College!
Shanna Kirschner
15:25
Hi from Allegheny College in NW Pennsylvania!
Daniel Forbes
15:31
Hello and good morning from Whitman College.
V.S. (Raghu) Raghavan
15:34
Hello from Mount Holyoke College!
marjorie hass
15:40
Hello from Rhodes College.
Courtney Kelly
15:51
Hello from Haverford College in Pennsylvania!
Karen Sendler
16:04
Hello from Barnard College!
Guy Nave
16:50
All of these materials will be accessible later?
Roberta Hurley
17:09
Good Afternoon from Wofford College in Spartanburg, SC! Go Zags!
Shaun Harper
17:43
Yes, all the materials will be sent to each of you within 2-3 days following this session.
Guy Nave
18:02
Great!!!!
Marcella Runell Hall
18:18
Agree! Love that. Thank you.
DeResha Vaughan
18:29
Hello all
Steve Willis
18:32
Thank you!!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
18:35
We’re ahead of you :-)
Marcus Scales
18:36
Greetings from Bucknell University
Paul Bracke
18:38
Hello from Gonzaga!
Manu Raghav
18:42
Greetings from DePauw University, everyone!
Lyrae Williams
18:44
Hello from Colorado College
April Johnson
18:45
Hello from DePauw!
Peggy Torrance
18:48
Hello from Concordia College - Moorhead Minnesota
Rita Shaw
18:48
Good Morning from Pomona College in Claremont, CA!
Dorsey Spencer
18:49
Hello from Colgate!
Douglas Anderson
18:52
Hello from Allegheny College in PA
Kay Sanders
18:52
Hi everyone. Greetings from Whittier College in California
Lena Hill
18:52
Hello from W&L!
Tianna Cervantez
18:53
Hello from Knox College :)
Isabelle Barker
18:54
Greetings from Bryn Mawr!
Michelle Byrne
18:55
Hi from San Antonio--Trinity University!
Sherri Kimmel
18:55
Hello from Sherri Kimmel at Bucknell!
DENISE POWELL
18:56
Hello from University of Puget Sound, Tacoma WA
Patti Exster
18:57
Hi from Williams College.
Tina Brooks
18:57
Another Pomona College voice here: nice to be here today from Claremont, CA
Eric Trudel
18:58
Hello from Bard!
Abby Hollern
18:59
Hello from Rollins College in Winter Park, Florida!
Anthony Baird
18:59
Hello my Utica College Colleagues!
Shaun Harper (he/him)
18:59
Congratulations and best wishes, Gonzaga!
Jo Beld
19:07
Hello from St. Olaf!
Jamila Chambers
19:08
Greetings to all from Occidental College - Los Angeles, CA.
Jason Seward
19:08
Aloha from Virginia Wesleyan University in Virginia Beach, VA
Tara Bubble
19:10
Good afternoon from Colgate University!
Catherine Metz
19:12
Hello everyone from Wabash College, Crawfordsville, IN
Christen Deveney
19:15
Hello from Wellesley College in Wellesley, MA!
Umbreen Bhatti
19:18
Love these as goals for today. Feels so concrete!
melissM Racioppa
19:19
Hello from Utica College in Utica, NY
Clair Morrissey
19:22
Hello from Occidental in Los Angles, CA!
tessa peterson
19:23
Hello from Pitzer, SoCal Claremont Colleges
Denelle Brown
19:26
Hello all from Bucknell University! Happy to be here.
Adriane Leithauser
19:26
Good morning from Gonzaga University!
Umbreen Bhatti
19:28
(And hello from Barnard!)
Gerardo Marti
19:32
Hello from Davidson College, just north of Charlotte in North Carolina.
Toya Camacho
19:34
Hello from Williams College!
Barbara Junisbai
19:36
So excited to be here with you all from Pitzer College in Claremont, CA
Terry Martinez
19:39
Hello from Hamilton College!
Steve Hall
19:44
Hello from Knox College!
Sinda Nichols
19:46
Hello from Carleton College!
Jalaneya Marrero-Golden
19:46
Hi from Bryn Mawr College!
Alison Hart
20:07
Greetings from Skidmore!
Jennifer Foreman
20:07
Hello from Allegheny College
Deirdre Gonsalves-Jackson
20:08
Greetings from Virginia Wesleyan University!
Marquitte Starkey
20:10
Hello from Sewanee: The University of the South!
Lisa Van Riper
20:18
Hello from Knox College!
Paul Secord
21:07
Hello from Southwestern University, just north of Austin, TX in beautiful Georgetown.
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
21:07
Amen to that!
Marcella Runell Hall
21:33
Yes! Exactly.
Jennifer Foreman
23:15
#TruthBeTold
Catia Cecilia Confortini
23:17
Some institutions are more vulnerable and it’s more risky for their existence to ignore EOs
Catia Cecilia Confortini
25:04
Yes, accreditation is such a “gameable” game
Michael Gettings
25:19
We're in SACSCOC, and progress is slow, but we're finally paying attention to student achievement correlated with race.
Marcella Runell Hall
25:35
That is such a good point about accreditation.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
25:56
Also have to speak about how “rankings” reinforce white supremacy and patriarchy in institutions
Catia Cecilia Confortini
26:34
The Nested Egg!!!
Lauren Greenberg
27:05
@catia, yes! You are so right.
Ellen Goldey
27:48
I’m reminded of this article in the Chronicle in terms of external influence: https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-new-order?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in
Joi Dallas
28:37
Very discouraging for the students and alum to see the same demands being made year after year
Jenn Rossmann
28:49
+1 Joi
Rachel Heiser
28:50
^^^
Catia Cecilia Confortini
28:56
Yes, our students too!
Jennifer Foreman
28:57
^^^^
Marcella Runell Hall
29:03
Discouraging and demoralizing
Skylar Bihl
29:08
^^^
Catia Cecilia Confortini
29:45
And their frustrations sometimes also have unintended consequences of having impact on faculty who are already doing the work and are more vulnerable, end up reinforcing the systems they are trying to dismantle
Umbreen Bhatti
31:17
+1 Catia
Catia Cecilia Confortini
31:56
For a lot of small colleges departments are very small and in these times not hiring
Marcella Runell Hall
33:04
Responsibility for your own racial literacy
Catia Cecilia Confortini
33:11
+1
Andrew Fagon
33:18
Ownership is huge!
AJ Aronstein
33:41
Speaking to this point in relation to the previous one about accreditation: the current Middle States process at Barnard College has focused a great deal on DEI, and the process is a great instance in which individuals from so many of these stakeholder groups (faculty, students, alumnae, admin leaders, etc.) are all involved conversation about the institution. Accreditation has been a great cross-institutional moment to stage evaluative/educational/ future-looking conversation about collective “ownership” of DEI at the College.
Cathy Gillis
33:46
As a support person rather than a director, I find that my influence is pretty big!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
33:49
USC is a big university — I hope you can also speak to small colleges
Rebecca Downing
33:54
Yes, Marcella: Read, watch, discuss! So much great material to delve into!
Anene Ejikeme
33:54
Some of us aren’t able to keep up with the chat and listen too so it would be helpful if we can also get the chat if there is information there of us. If that’s already been addressed, sorry!
LaRee Sugg
33:54
One or two "bad actors" who are in the position of power can be so destructive even with the majority of the institution is committed to DEI work.
Michele Ewing
34:05
B
Steve Willis
34:05
chair of sociology department
LaRee Sugg
34:14
Program
Cathy Gillis
34:31
Executive Admin Assist, and member of the Diversity Equity Advisory Board
Jessica Chisley
34:34
@LaRee - very true! Thank you for lifting that!
Lisa Hamiel
34:35
Great point, LaRee!
Shá Duncan Smith
34:38
We share the chat too Anene.
Steve Willis
35:36
How about at a small college, I am on the curriculum committee so I put college level
Catia Cecilia Confortini
35:41
For me in a small program individual and program are the same :-)
Lisa Hamiel
35:43
This is a difficult question to respond to. I am assessment specialist that oversees all institutional assessment and evaluation
Rebecca Downing
35:50
Catia, Me, too!
Skylar Bihl
36:13
Catia, same for me
Alison Hart
36:39
I'm tripping over the term "control" I would say I have influence at the department level, but I'm not in a position of authority.
Shanna Kirschner
37:13
Ditto on the complexity of this! I'm finishing up a term on the Faculty Review (tenure & promotion Cttee) but am also a dept chair...
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
37:29
Same for me,Alison. Difficult to know how much authority we have, and how much we have to rely on charisma
Catia Cecilia Confortini
37:32
A question: why equity and not justice?
DENISE POWELL
37:45
I agree with the comment about influence vs. control
Steve Willis
37:59
^^
Lauren Greenberg
38:18
How are "student outcomes" defined?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
39:34
+1 @Lauren’s question
Cathy Gillis
39:47
Equity mindedness is growth; not static. Having a listening, learning, and acting outlook is necessary.
Marcella Runell Hall
40:15
Evolving and critical reflection of our practices in DEI work-YES!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
40:26
+1 @ Cathy — self-reflexivity
Jennifer Foreman
40:36
@Laren & Catia - persistent issues with positivism defining these
Catia Cecilia Confortini
40:59
@Jennifer: yes! Hahaha humanities’ ethos
Catia Cecilia Confortini
42:09
If we take your definition of equity mindedness nobody can answer A :-)
Ashlea Schad
42:20
Agreed @Catia
Alex Wirth-Cauchon
43:23
The more I learn the more I know I still need to learn.
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
43:31
Yes, Alex!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
43:37
+1
Rita Shaw
43:41
Agree with Alex
Rob Straughan
43:43
I agree with Alex
Erik Thompson
43:43
@Alex - well said
Sharon Saunders
43:45
I try to be, but I know I miss the mark.
Guy Nave
43:46
Definitely, Alex!
Wendy-Marie Martin
43:48
@Alex - so true!
Patti Exster
43:48
Agreed, Alex
Nei. Albert
43:48
same here
Rob Straughan
43:59
Me as well, Alex
Rebecca Downing
43:59
I don’t know what I don’t know!
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
44:18
Sharon, that’s exactly what I was thinking
Catia Cecilia Confortini
44:47
+1
Guy Nave
44:56
Does +1 mean “me too”? I’m not up with social media abbreviations. Thanks.
Rosemarie Hunter
44:59
I agree with your statement Alex, I am constantly learning what I don’t know. If we are seriously growing in this way, the critical reflection must be ever present and intentional
Catia Cecilia Confortini
45:05
@Guy yes for me
DENISE POWELL
45:15
I'm a work in progress
Joi Dallas
45:15
I feel like I'm still learning the history and the nuances of that history at my specific college and then also the wider higher ed field
Marcella Runell Hall
45:23
Yes Rosemarie!
Nancy Chick
45:26
I appreciate this definition of "equity-minded" -- it's 1/2 about equity MINDED and 1/2 on equity ACTING/BEHAVIOR. The latter is harder because it gets into what he's calling our "local of control"/sphere of influence
Joi Dallas
45:38
I agree Nancy^
Guy Nave
45:41
Thanks @Catia
Lauren Greenberg
45:46
+1 Nancy
Catia Cecilia Confortini
46:08
@Guy: also ^^^
Rebecca Downing
47:43
This work has to be baked into everything we do, not something to do when “time allows”
Nikisha Williams
47:45
I'm in assessment and this failure to "close the loop" is a major challenge
Catia Cecilia Confortini
49:12
It’s also about criteria for measurement — indicators can be measurable but not significant to actually assess equity.
Jennifer Foreman
49:28
+!
Michelle Byrne
49:29
Nikisha, yes! The follow through is always a challenge
Patti Exster
49:34
Agreed, Rebecca.
V.S. (Raghu) Raghavan
49:49
Regarding # 4: Workplace activism threatens existing status quo and can impact career advancement.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
49:51
E.g., in my field, gender indicators that measure amount of women reached through a training rather than what that training actually accomplished for the women
Catia Cecilia Confortini
50:15
@Raghu: yes!
Stephanie Martin
50:21
the responsible employee is often missing due to a lack of institutional commitment of resources
Elizabeth Graves
50:32
underinvestment in staff who help students succeed
Rosemarie Hunter
50:32
I have found that it is also necessary to do an equity assessment before the plan…at times we jump into planning, without really examining our current policies and practices (and the outcome of these Pol and Practices) and critically examining what P & P are barriers and what is working.
Marcella Runell Hall
50:33
That is so true and so important.
Joi Dallas
50:49
#4 is really speaking to me
Jennifer Foreman
50:50
I think it’s easy to underestimate the complexity involved with social science measurement and its translation to what actually matters; plus the racism that is baked into psychometrics to begin with
Michele Ewing
51:11
+1 Rosemarie Hunter
DeResha Vaughan
51:11
Sometimes staff can get comments that invalidate their current skills and commitment as a reason for no advancement
Catia Cecilia Confortini
51:14
@Stephanie: yes and/or responsible employee not given the resources to succeed in job
Stephanie Martin
51:27
^^
Rosemarie Hunter
51:28
Good point Jennifer!!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
51:39
@Jennifer ^^^^^
Lauren Greenberg
51:41
Not just stagnation but the overextending and splitting of those superstar individuals.
Sherri Kimmel
52:09
Amen to that.
Jenifer Ward
52:17
A foundational barrier to accountability, in my view, is cultural: academe’s valorization of individual autonomy (even when the impact of decisions is on the community).
Catia Cecilia Confortini
52:54
@Jenifer: +1
Michelle Byrne
53:32
#7 seems so very critical.
Alex Wirth-Cauchon
53:33
+1 Jenifer
Catia Cecilia Confortini
53:37
@10!!!!!! Even faculty activists
Lindsay Johnson
54:21
Yes, #10!
Patti Exster
54:40
#10 is a huge problem
V.S. (Raghu) Raghavan
54:47
#10!
Jennifer Foreman
54:48
#8 is something our students are VERY aware of
Catia Cecilia Confortini
55:06
And re #10: call for “civility” is racially and gendered coded
Brooke Vick
55:09
^^ Yes Jennifer! #8 is huge.
Michelle Byrne
55:10
Yes to #10! Huge problem
Jennifer Foreman
55:21
@Catia - tone policing
Shaun Harper (he/him)
55:25
I don’t identify as URM or HUG, either. I identify as Black. We should use convenient acronyms less often.
Marcella Runell Hall
55:28
Activists tend to give us the answers.-YES
Kijua Sanders-McMurtry
55:32
#10 has been a longstanding issue in higher education. In fact, defensiveness is a huge issue of administrators at all levels particularly in times of crisis.
Stephanie Martin
55:33
the institution doesn't think the data should be available to all the stakeholders.
Lindsay Johnson
55:34
We teach our students to be critical consumers, until they choose our institutions
Skylar Bihl
55:47
^^^
Catia Cecilia Confortini
55:48
@Kijua +1
Nikisha Williams
55:50
Disaggregating the data is so important. Grouping marginalized groups together so often masks unique challenges of individual groups
Teresa Amott
56:14
Could you please put the top 10 slide back up?
Lauren Greenberg
56:35
#10 not so much at my institution, I feel like activists are marketed to make the college seem more equity-minded but change still happens slowly if at all
Rebecca Alexander
56:58
within or beyond?
Skylar Bihl
57:06
^^
Brooke Vick
57:06
Slide said "beyond"
Kijua Sanders-McMurtry
57:13
Also, true @Lauren in my experience, activists are often seen as important to make visible after they graduate
Lauren Greenberg
57:41
Yes, Kijua!
Nancy Chick
58:30
We can write in the chat
Catia Cecilia Confortini
58:33
@Kijua yes!
Toby Davis
58:51
This happened to me once when I had a giant group.
Andrew Voytek
01:14:57
mid conversation
Rachel Heiser
01:15:03
high five to Group 40!
ERIC TRUDEL
01:15:09
@Dave from Utica - sorry we didn’t hear the end of your comment
Fuji Lozada
01:15:10
Floyd was in mid-sentence - nice link!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:15:15
Hi five to #36!
Beth Severy-Hoven
01:15:29
Thanks to group 28!
Enrique Gonzalez-Salgado
01:15:39
Thanks to all in the group I participated in.
Wendy-Marie Martin
01:15:44
@Rachel - yes! High Five Group 40
Lindsay Johnson
01:15:46
Thanks to group #36!
Skylar Bihl
01:15:47
Thank you group 40!
Jeanne Eddy
01:15:48
I was suddenly out of group 10 and never got back in. Missed the group.
Lauren Greenberg
01:15:49
Thanks to my group!
José Rodriguez
01:15:50
Enjoyed conversing with group 23! - Reed College, Grinnell, Claremont, Rhodes…!
Jenifer Ward
01:15:52
The good news: we were having a great discussion!
ERIC TRUDEL
01:15:53
Thanks to group 27! From “Debra”
Farah Marks
01:15:53
Thanks Group 37!
Fuji Lozada
01:15:56
For group 43 - https://www.davidson.edu/about/commission-race-and-slavery/post-commission-initiatives-and-progress
Steve Willis
01:15:58
thanks to my group!! This is Danielle, not Steve! :)
Milyon Trulove
01:16:01
Same Jose!
ISHITA SINHA ROY
01:16:01
Thanks to everyone in my grouop
Lauren Greenberg
01:16:02
Hey Lindsay Johnson!
Patti Exster
01:16:06
Thanks to the group I was with. Good talking with you all.
Rebecca Downing
01:16:10
Thank you, Anthony B for leading our dialogue in Room 39!
Nancy Chick
01:16:21
Yes, thank you to my group as well -- very helpful to hear all of your thoughts!
Judith Manuel
01:16:53
Dorsey sorry we got cut off! Would like to hear your opinion!
Rachel Heiser
01:17:01
Thanks to our facilitators!- Breakout rooms are not easy!
Jennifer Foreman
01:17:07
Thanks to group #31 :)
KAREN UNGER
01:17:16
Thank you Group 5 — Carolee would love to hear what you were saying at the end
Umbreen Bhatti
01:17:22
@Jennifer, sorry we didn’t get to hear your full comment!
Martha O'Leary
01:17:31
great to connect with group 5. Thank you all!
Alison Hart
01:17:53
Loved my group! Thanks all!
Mary Hatcher-Skeers
01:19:29
Thank you group 23, I appreciate learning from you
Steven Jones
01:20:05
Partnerships are key!!!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:21:59
Yes on communication!!! And, relatedly, transparency
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:22:13
@Wellesley huge problems with that
Ellen Goldey
01:22:18
^^
Lisa Hamiel
01:22:24
it shows what people believe is priority
Patti Exster
01:22:39
We were discussing communication in our breakout room.
José Rodriguez
01:22:42
Communications is critical to Change Management - and racial equity work is culture-changing
Rachel Heiser
01:22:59
Consistent communication is so important
Guy Nave
01:23:10
Often times mission statements are SO broad and general that they hinder SPECIFIC targeted actions/strategies because specific targeted actions/strategies (e.g. increasing the number of black facutly) are often presented as “exclusionary” and not promoting “equality.”
Jessica Ford
01:23:23
Communication was mentioned in my group! It is CRITICAL to give the same message to EVERYONE.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:24:38
@Jessica: YES!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:25:49
Why is that, you think? Can you explain by what mechanism starting from the outside in is better strategy for communication? Have I heard correctly?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:26:15
That is such a great idea!
Keesha Burke
01:26:32
SO NECESSARY!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:26:54
Yes because also different parts of the college use same words with different meanings!
Keesha Burke
01:27:28
And overuse of jargon without real meaning
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:27:38
@keesha ^^^
Jessica Chisley
01:27:52
I really like how that was articulated “we’re not talking past each other, we’re talking about the same kinds of things”
Nancy Chick
01:28:12
UGH.
Angela Miranda-Clark
01:28:30
yikes!
Debbie Howell
01:28:38
That happens too often - no consequences
Nikisha Williams
01:28:41
Also important to note the intersection of race and gender there
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:28:51
This is super helpful!!!
Patti Exster
01:28:59
Agreed, Nikisha.
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
01:29:05
That’s a tough one. If teaching evals are anonymous how do you track the student down?
Beth Severy-Hoven
01:29:07
Outcomes for faculty and staff need to be part of the conversation, too. Yes?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:29:09
@Nikisha +1
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
01:29:23
YES!!!
Rita Shaw
01:29:29
Yes!!
DENISE POWELL
01:29:34
Yes!!!
Veronica Ortiz
01:29:35
Totally!
Guy Nave
01:29:37
Right?!
Cathy Gillis
01:29:41
YES INDEED!
Nancy Chick
01:29:43
Hear hear
LaRee Sugg
01:29:43
Staff often has one standards and evaluation method and this will differ for faculty via the DEI lens.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:29:45
Or appointed to directorships of influential and moneyed institutes
DeResha Vaughan
01:29:55
or problematic people still participating in hiring of others
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:30:23
You are going to share these slides, yes?
Carl Sorensen
01:30:42
CUPA HR has an assessment tool as well.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:30:55
@Carl: spell out acronym pls?
Amer Ahmed
01:31:17
https://diversity.wfu.edu/realizing-inclusion-diversity-and-equity/
Catherine Metz
01:31:26
Important to communicate meanings prior to adding to Performance review questions, not all employees really understand what these mean.
Carl Sorensen
01:31:29
https://www.cupahr.org/surveys/dei-maturity-index/
Carl Sorensen
01:31:57
College and University Professional Association for HR
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:32:09
@Carl Thanks
Rita Shaw
01:32:22
Thank you for sharing!
Amer Ahmed
01:32:38
realizing-inclusion-diversity-and-equity (RIDE)
Shá Duncan Smith
01:36:15
Catia, we share the slides, recording and all resources via dropbox after the sessions.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:36:33
@Shá: Thanks
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
01:36:40
We’re having the conversation now on incorporation DEI contributions on tenure/promotion. Being met with some push-back …
AJ Aronstein
01:37:01
At Beyond Barnard (our College’s integrated career center), this summer we will begin reporting multi-year recent alumni career outcomes by race, ethnicity, and FLI status — tracking first career/graduate school/fellowship outcomes as a metric against which we will track our center’s performance (and using numbers to help understand how to mobilize advising resources).
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:37:13
@Kimberly: I was wondering about that. I think faculty at Wellesley would push back
Kimberly Flint-Hamilton
01:38:17
They were set to vote on it but it got postponed because of the strong feelings of some faculty. I think it will ultimately pass but it’s taking a lot of time
Angela Miranda-Clark
01:38:19
Love that!
Mary Hatcher-Skeers
01:39:11
We have a new proposal for de-b1asing searches that we will vote on this Spring
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:40:19
In these times hard to combine need for hiring with equity in mind and budget reductions
ERIC TRUDEL
01:40:50
Community relations are an important part of these efforts, especially in non-urban areas where institutions of higher education are often relative oases of diversity. Not just the institution, but the larger community needs to be supportive and welcoming. The larger community does not always understand their potential role here, and institutions of higher education may not realize how important community linkages can be to employee diversity. We've recently created a Community Relations working group on our Council for Inclusive Excellence to try to bring an institutional voice supporting our employees and students in their interactions with the local community. Some local leaders have welcomed this, while others refuse to engage. My experience is that community support of diversity increasingly factors into people's decisions about whether to take or remain in a job.
Kassandra Jolley
01:41:48
@eric -- ^^^^ yes! Increasingly on my mind.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:41:49
@Eric: super important! Wellesley is in very rich, very white town - and we are just starting community engagement there
Cathy Gillis
01:41:50
Eric, absolutely!
Tina Brooks
01:42:00
Really interesting, @Eric. Thanks for sharing.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:42:14
+ faculty (let alone staff) cannot really afford to live there
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:42:47
Yes on HR ignoring the data or collecting data in ways that suit their purposes and hide inequities!!!!
Patti Exster
01:43:00
Good point, Eric.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:43:06
YES YES YES on attrition for staff!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:43:18
And staff afraid of talking
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:43:25
Bc of possible retaliation
DeResha Vaughan
01:43:27
+1
V.S. (Raghu) Raghavan
01:43:43
Great point, ERic
Lauren Greenberg
01:44:19
Eric, absolutely
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:44:36
This incentivizing with money is super helpful!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:44:40
To know
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:45:15
Not only showcasing faculty success so as to “look good”
Floyd Cheung
01:46:09
The Faculty Record Sheet at Smith College tracks contributions to equity and inclusion. Merit increases are tied to this record
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:46:17
I think that in this we also need to consider ‘hidden labor’ often gendered — not easily measurable…how do we recognize this
Kijua Sanders-McMurtry
01:46:49
This is so important to name.
Dan Mathewson
01:46:57
@Floyd: same at Wofford, though this is the first year for our new Faculty Information Form.
LaRee Sugg
01:47:09
Budgets for DEI work are often not stand alone, but have to be taken out of budgets established for other areas... leading to resentment for the work...
Waller Dudley
01:47:25
We have had a community grants program for some years. Not a great deal of money annually but it really helps us. We also have a community based learning initiative and our students are significantly more involved in positive ways in the community than before
Ellen Goldey
01:47:30
Hidden labor needs to be recognized and celebrated within annual review.
Kijua Sanders-McMurtry
01:47:31
Often DEI work has to mitigate all of the racial harm and/or other forms of harm created.
Amer Ahmed
01:47:48
^^^
Shaun Harper (he/him)
01:47:56
Best wishes for an enjoyable and restorative break, everyone!
Dan Mathewson
01:48:16
I want to put a plug in for Oregon State University’s Search Advocate program. https://searchadvocate.oregonstate.edu/
Dan Mathewson
01:48:39
We have a search advocate on every hiring committee.
Fuji Lozada
01:50:19
We have this at Davidson, called "Equity Advisors."
Catia Cecilia Confortini
01:56:35
@Dan: this is a great idea and easily implemented — if there is money to fund the position
Fuji Lozada
02:00:11
@Catia - Equity Advisors are a "faculty committee" - counts for service.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:00:35
@Fuji: Thanks! This is helpful
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:02:35
This figure is so relatable…I have the sense that @Wellesley we would have similar results
Dan Mathewson
02:02:55
@Catia — At Wofford, serving as a search advocate counts as service.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:04:46
@Dan: Thanks!
Lauren Greenberg
02:05:11
Thinking about how difficult this can be when the student population is always changing
Erik Thompson
02:05:43
@lauren, very difficult
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:06:26
Also departmental action plans, reports etc….very difficult in small departments — all labor falling on one person/two
LaRee Sugg
02:06:46
@Catia so true...
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:07:05
Also measures not necessarily valid with one person where all the labor, admin, teaching falls on one person
Joi Dallas
02:07:09
@ Catia yes so many 1 and 2 person departments...
LaRee Sugg
02:07:14
@Catia... especially when these roles and assessments are add-ons to current roles.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:07:21
This seems more applicable to big institutions
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:07:28
@LaRee yes
DeResha Vaughan
02:08:10
I think it can work for smaller places too, also saying somewhere is too small for the work makes it easier to not fix propblems
Beth Severy-Hoven
02:08:11
Or what is the right level at smaller institutions -- divisional assessments?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:08:12
Can you speak a bit more of how small departments can implement measures without it adding on to the pile of extra labor?
Jennifer Foreman
02:08:17
I think we all need to make sure we’re aware of campbell’s law in thinking through accountability measures like as in k-12
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:08:45
@Jennifer: What is campbell’s law?
Jennifer Foreman
02:09:08
Campbell's Law is the observation that once a metric has been identified as a primary indicator for success, its ability to accurately measure success tends to be compromised.
DeResha Vaughan
02:09:13
Maybe the small department will need assistance from others in its division or combine departments to do the reviews
Kelly Jackson
02:09:24
Could we get specific examples of these tools?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:09:38
@DeResha: it is true. And I can also tell you that in my institution those small depts are also often the ones that teach the equity stuff, enroll more students of color etc.
Katherine Andrews
02:09:54
^^That would be very helpful to have examples of some of these tools available. Thank you!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:09:56
@DeResha: yes, that’s a great idea
Floyd Cheung
02:10:18
Smith is basing its departmental reviews on UC Berkeley’s model — with permission https://diversity.berkeley.edu/programs-services/diversity-planning
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:10:33
@Jennifer: Because tricks to make it look like it’s happening are devised?
Jennifer Foreman
02:10:48
Yes, like NCLB cheating scandals, etc.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:10:48
In Italian: Fatta la legge trovato l'inganno
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:13:01
Also true for non-binary and trans faculty
Cathy Gillis
02:13:51
^
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:13:55
And women — even in a women’s institution
Keesha Burke
02:13:56
Women of color in particular
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:14:03
Yes @Keesha!
Nikisha Williams
02:14:25
+ Catia and Keesha
Eric Trudel
02:14:50
The same applies to professional staff who support the learning process
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:15:24
@Eric: yes
Lauren Greenberg
02:15:28
Most trainings are geared towards teaching professionals equity, diversity, and inclusive, but it feels like theres little support for staff and faculty of color about how to navigate those things from students.
Meredith Bruner
02:15:59
HERC (Higher Education Recruitment Consortium)
Beth Severy-Hoven
02:16:15
Podcast series from Dr. Chavella Pitman, 'Teaching in Color' is helpful.
Brooke Vick
02:16:31
MMUF (Mellon Mays Fellows), Ford Foundation
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:16:32
How about strategies for locating candidates in historically underrepresented disciplines (candidates from underrepresented groups in a specific discipline that historically has been hostile to underrepresented groups)
Rebecca Downing
02:16:45
Consortium for Faculty Diversity (CFD), an association of liberal arts colleges that offers postdoctoral fellowships to scholars who would contribute to the diversity of its member institutions.
Fuji Lozada
02:16:50
+1 CFD
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:16:56
@Lauren: yes!!!
Keith McIntosh
02:17:00
Really like this resource
Lauren Greenberg
02:17:06
Thank you, Beth!
Brooke Vick
02:17:21
@Catia, look up the Diverse Top 100 for grad programs who are training lots of underrepresented faculty of color. Searchable database by field that gets updated each year.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:17:34
@Brooke: Super helpful, thanks!
Elizabeth Hamilton
02:17:43
CFD is an excellent consortium making a difference.
Joyce Burnette
02:17:57
The list of racial groups assumes applicants are American, and not international.
Justin Rose
02:18:02
Strongly agree re: CFD!!!
Nikki Young
02:18:09
^^^^^
Eric Trudel
02:18:32
Are they being retained??? What is their experience when they arrive to campus?
Fuji Lozada
02:20:11
@Eric - I'm assuming you're talking about CFD postdocs - we have a track record (only 4-5 years, though) of our CFD postdocs getting a TT job or their preferred job post-Davidson.
Elizabeth Graves
02:20:13
If it's happening, I don't know it as a staff member.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:20:32
Sad that in my institution I had to give only one check
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:20:45
Basically just institutional action plan — and even there…sigh
Luke Vilelle
02:20:56
wish there was an option for "none of these" in the poll. some of this is happening in a scattered fashion, but not systematically yet.
Skylar Bihl
02:21:31
^^
Anthony Baird
02:21:34
Utica College would love additional resources on embedding accountability at the institution.
Erik Thompson
02:21:43
In order to participate on a position selection committee you must successfully completed a self bias training
Mary Hatcher-Skeers
02:21:52
We just started using a rubric for our searches that includes a statement of racial equity that counted equal to research and teaching. We had the best diversity outcomes we have ever seen in STEM and it resulted in hiring a woman of color
Anthony Pernell-McGee
02:22:46
The ’68 Center for Career Exploration is under going DEI assessment and evaluation, and we are including in the recommendations programmatic and performance goals and evaluations
Lyrae Williams
02:22:52
Colorado College is in the beginning of implementing our Antiracism Implementation Plan. An Oversight Committee is being formed this spring. https://www.coloradocollege.edu/other/antiracism-initiative/
Cathy Gillis
02:23:35
At Colorado College, we have a formal antiracism implementation plan. In the hiring processes, we have DEAB and the Office of Diversity and Inclusion review the listings. We ask new employees to commit to the core values of CC; antiracism, inclusion, equity. Faculty interviewees are asked to talk about their experience with DEI; and contributing to the college's antiracism goals is part of our the performance review questionnaire that employees complete.
Elma Benavides
02:24:50
Will the chat entries be included with the session materials?
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:25:15
^^^
Cathy Gillis
02:25:16
@Lyrae thank you
Tiffany Espinosa
02:25:26
The delta between people acting in pro-equity ways and actually institutional systems of accountability can be large.
Keesha Burke
02:25:32
Randolph College is developing its JEDI plan Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusiveness
Anene Ejikeme
02:25:35
Would love to hear how those who do implement and embed DEI at the departmental level
Jennifer Foreman
02:26:04
@Keesha - I love that acronym and the ORDER of the words
Shá Duncan Smith
02:26:07
The chat is included in the resources we provide in the dropbox several days after the session.
LaRee Sugg
02:26:16
When DEI work is being asked and evaluated in the hiring phase, often the individuals making up the committee do not have the skill set to evaluate the quality of the answer from the candidates.
Fuji Lozada
02:26:32
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfThSoYn0FCJ_TclqlR0hQ8n2-65h7F-QVVmySjacazMKHFvA/viewform
Shá Duncan Smith
02:26:53
www.uscrec.info/accountability
Shá Duncan Smith
02:27:25
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfThSoYn0FCJ_TclqlR0hQ8n2-65h7F-QVVmySjacazMKHFvA/viewform
mwoods@hamilton.edu
02:39:36
#2 The Best thing that administrators can do at any level is to be far better listeners. I find thatbthe more money an administrator makes, the less they listen to the little people underneath them. I also find that the more deeply embedded their position is in white supremacy the more they rationalize being the boss in every situation which does not allow the person of color a comfort zone at all. I also notice that if powerful, wealthy white people become fearful, many aspects of communication just shut down. They do not realize that people of color have a constant fear that we will not be understood or taken seriously. My biggest fear is that the things that I call technical skills will be written off as “natural talent” The realm of the subjective response is vital to people who have been traditionally left out of the main stream. To me the accomplishment of the subjective IS the objective. That makes things difficult to codify but I do not care if it is difficult. So what!!! life it self is difficult.
Ellen Goldey
02:39:55
^^^^
Peggy Torrance
02:43:06
I got kicked out
Maya Gunaseharan
02:59:30
Thank you group 20!!!!!!! Thank you Deirdre for helping us get real!!
Rachel Heiser
02:59:32
again, love to Group 40!
Patti Exster
02:59:37
Thanks to Room 5. Great discussion!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
02:59:39
Yay to group #36!
Rachel Heiser
02:59:42
also, thanks for the countdown!
Jessica Chisley
02:59:49
Shout out, group 29!! Great discussion!
Mary Jean Sullivan
02:59:49
Great countdown!
Patricia Langer
02:59:53
Thanks Group #28!!
Wendy-Marie Martin
02:59:55
Thanks again, Group 40. Appreciate your thoughts!
Rebecca Downing
02:59:57
Props to group 39!
ERIC TRUDEL
02:59:58
@Guy - congrats on the good work. Nice talking with group 27
Roberta Hurley
03:00:01
Yes great countdown
Katherine Andrews
03:00:08
Fantastic group - thank you!
Nikisha Williams
03:00:11
Thanks for the countdown and thank you to group 30 for a great discussion
Brooke Vick
03:00:18
Another action plan resource that I didn't see mentioned previously: https://www.holycross.edu/sites/default/files/files/diversity/antiracismactionplanguidebook.pdf
Kathryn Oleson
03:00:23
Thank you
Mary Hatcher-Skeers
03:00:23
I really appreciate my group and learned much from them
Carolee White
03:00:25
Group #5 was fantastic! Thanks to all
Daniel Forbes
03:01:00
I didn’t note my group’s number but you were all fantastic.
Guy Nave
03:01:01
Thanks, group #27. I appreciated hearing from people with a larger/broader locus of control/influence.
Rachel Heiser
03:01:21
Love the tools found here: https://www.cue-tools.usc.edu/
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:01:56
@Anthony: yes!!!
Paul Hanstedt
03:02:03
Yes!!!
Patti Exster
03:02:10
Agreed!
Ashlea Schad
03:02:10
Agree @Dr. Baird
DENISE POWELL
03:02:15
Yes!! Great discussion and resources
LaRee Sugg
03:02:24
Agreed Accountability discussion so valuable.
Marcella Runell Hall
03:02:26
Agree! Thank you all so much!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:02:36
It’s good to have action tools: as faculty, we might think and research, but action to implement is super helpful!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:03:14
I already wrote to one of my deans (the one that had the initiative to start us up with USC)
Ashlea Schad
03:03:32
https://www.ofbyforall.org/
Sharon Parkinson
03:04:20
YES!
Anthony Pernell-McGee
03:04:32
Thank you all. Have to sign off for an appointment!
Michael Gettings
03:04:32
another resource for systems change for equity: https://www.fsg.org/publications/water_of_systems_change
Stephanie Martin
03:04:52
Dismantle Capitalism
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:04:57
Also the Minnesota Science Museum’s IDEAL Center offers ***great*** training for teachers/educators in anti-racist, anti-patriarchal, anti-heteronormative pedagogies!
Patti Exster
03:05:05
Right on, Stephanie.
Cathy Gillis
03:05:05
Love it, thank you!
Nina Nguyen
03:05:08
Doc Woods. Great to hear from you!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:05:11
YES!!! NO to money worship/capitalism
Enrique Gonzalez-Salgado
03:05:14
Like that!Do folks know they are doing wrong?
Rebecca Downing
03:05:33
Thank you, Doctuh Woods!
Brooke Vick
03:05:40
Appreciate how this session has given us actionable tools AND prompted reflection on why we haven't been as successful with accountability in the past, so we can change that going forward. Thank you!
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:06:00
@Brooke ^^^
Kathryn Oleson
03:06:31
Yes - agree with Brooke
Elizabeth Graves
03:06:58
Thank you, Dr. Davis!
Stephanie Martin
03:06:59
https://www.facebook.com/groups/donefordidi.whitelaborcollective
DENISE POWELL
03:07:23
Thank you Ryan for a great presentation!
Michael Gettings
03:07:24
Thanks so much for providing guidance and resources - both presenters and colleagues participating!
Steven Jones
03:07:24
Great session! Time well spent...
Jennifer Foreman
03:07:27
Thank you very much to our facilitators. This has been very helpful.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:07:43
Thank you all! I loved this
Mary Hatcher-Skeers
03:07:50
thank you everyone for a great session!
Roberta Hurley
03:07:51
This session was very informative and helpful. Thank you. I look forward to receiving the slides.
Beth Severy-Hoven
03:07:55
Thanks so much for this opportunity!
Peggy Burge
03:08:00
Thank you so very much!
Eric Trudel
03:08:04
Thank you, all!
DeResha Vaughan
03:08:04
Thank you
Rebecca Downing
03:08:06
Thank you for such an enlightening session!
Wendy-Marie Martin
03:08:12
Thank you all!
Angela Miranda-Clark
03:08:13
-Thank you!
Sharon Parkinson
03:08:13
Thank, you, Ryan!
Lyrae Williams
03:08:18
Thank you Ryan, Shaun and everyone!
Alex Wirth-Cauchon
03:08:19
Thank you!
Virginia Halverson
03:08:19
Thank you!
JENNIFER MURRAY
03:08:20
Thank you!
Toya Camacho
03:08:21
Thank you, all!
Dorsey Spencer
03:08:22
Thank you, Ryan!
Skylar Bihl
03:08:23
Thank you!
Patti Exster
03:08:25
Thank you, Ryan and Shaun!
Carol Smith
03:08:25
Thank you to the facilitators! This was time well-spent for me today.
Martha O'Leary
03:08:26
THANK YOU!
Sherri Kimmel
03:08:27
VERY HELPFUL. Thanks
Diane Holmes
03:08:27
Thank you!
Daniel Forbes
03:08:28
Thank you so much for all your time, talents, and expertise.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:08:29
Thank you thank you thank you!
Rachel Stanley
03:08:29
Thank you!
José Rodriguez
03:08:33
Thanks so much Ryan and Shaun.
Enrique Gonzalez-Salgado
03:08:34
Thank you!
Lisa Broughman
03:08:34
Thank you so much!
Molly Magavern
03:08:34
Thank you, Ryan and everyone!
Ramona Kirsch
03:08:35
Thank you! Keep up the work!
Lisa Van Riper
03:08:35
Thank you! Time well spent, for sure!
Manu Raghav
03:08:36
Thank you, Ryan!
Rebecca Alexander
03:08:36
Thank you! This was great!
KAREN UNGER
03:08:37
Thank you — much that was valuable
V.S. (Raghu) Raghavan
03:08:38
Thank you Ryan, Shaun, Sha and everyone
Douglas Anderson
03:08:38
Thank you, Ryan and Shaun, and our breakout group!
Nei. Albert
03:08:39
thank you!
Andrew Fagon
03:08:40
Thanks you. Cheers.
sharon goto
03:08:40
thank you!
Marcella Runell Hall
03:08:44
Thank you Ryan & Shaun! Very grateful for this.
Shá Duncan Smith
03:08:44
Thank you for your presence!
Steve Hall
03:08:45
Can you make the slide stack available?
Megan Kohr
03:08:45
thank you so much Ryan! it has been so helpful!
Cathy Gillis
03:08:45
I am inspired and am grateful the opportunity to engage with learned minds. Great presentation, thank you very much.
Catherine Metz
03:08:46
Thank you!!
Rob Straughan
03:08:46
Thanks, all.
Catia Cecilia Confortini
03:08:48
Also Shaun: Love your talks on youtube
Candace Okello
03:08:53
Thank you!
Peggy Torrance
03:08:54
Thank you!
Ellen Goldey
03:08:59
It is empowering to bring so many of us at liberal arts colleges together to confront this challenging topic. Thank you.