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Israeli Literature with Rachel - Shared screen with speaker view
Ilana Dubb
01:14:47
I know this is a work of fiction and so Emuna Elon can introduce whatever she wants to into the story. But it is interesting to wonder how Intisar got into the settlement. That is totally unrealistic. She would not have been able to pass through the gate at the entrance.
Ed Grossman
01:14:50
Here's where the poem (her smile and control) shifts the power relationship on a personal level..
Wendy Liebow
01:17:03
as to “what would you have done,” esp. in Holocaust context, cf. Nathan Englander’s short story, What We Talk About When We Talk about Anne Frank. In New Yorker and in book of same title.
Ed Grossman
01:18:16
The "wall" didn't exist then.
Ed Grossman
01:20:25
Are there any possible allusions to the "cities of refuge" in the Bible here?
Ed Grossman
01:22:17
So is the Jihad/Shabab the Abraham in this metaphor?
Ed Grossman
01:31:04
But here Sarit did not throw Adnan out of the house in this story...
robin
01:31:33
is the bread knife a reference to the machelet/knife in the akeda?
Ed Grossman
01:38:59
Sarit only needed her when she got into the new house..before that she was living in a trailer.
Ilana Dubb
01:44:32
What is the relevance of the breadknife - if it refers back to the Akedah story
Ed Grossman
01:46:02
Sarit (the Jews) comes out looking so much better at the end than the image of Sarah in the Bible
Ed Grossman
01:49:22
Intisar also is in a very awkward position--she can only shout in neutral territory because he could be accused as well of not being trustworthy--perhaps in both communities.
Ilana Dubb
01:50:24
Interesting the comment about her scratching her face. In the Tanach, that is something forbidden to Jews in mourning - it was a custom of the Cnnaanites
Ed Grossman
01:55:48
But doesn't the story end up as a commentary about the Arab culture in (compared with Abraham not sacrificing Issac) killing--and with a Holocaust reference "burning"--Adnan?
Ayala Weinberg
01:57:01
what age approx is emunah
Ed Grossman
01:57:38
She was born in 1955...
Ayala Weinberg
01:57:55
Todah
Ed Grossman
01:58:06
So depends on when the story was written/published...
Ed Grossman
02:03:09
And if you can give us any background on the use of pidgeons in the war of independence that would be interesting...
Ayala Weinberg
02:03:31
Todah
Ayala Weinberg
02:03:35
Lhitraot
Jerry Fenske
02:03:37
Thank you again
ctannen@tannen.co.uk
02:03:39
thank you and good night
Barbara Braverman
02:03:40
Thanks so much for a most provocative discussion
Heather Silverman
02:04:05
Thank you to everyone for such deep, provocative questions. Such a great group!
Barbara Taragan
02:04:24
Todah