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White Guilt, Gender, and the Current Wave of White Rage w/ Dr. Jacqueline Battalora - Shared screen with speaker view
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
27:26
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Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
27:47
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Erica Tai Gresham
29:50
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29:50
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Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
32:04
Greetings Amalia!! Wonderful to see you again. Hello everyone!
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Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
32:38
Will hop on cam shortly
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32:40
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Candis Smith
32:43
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Shell (she/her) Yokuts Land
33:01
Yokuts land
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33:09
Chochenyo Ohlone land aka Oakland CA. Greetings.
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33:14
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33:35
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33:47
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34:15
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34:20
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34:22
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34:31
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jean Caiani
36:21
Welcome Jackie! So glad to see you today.
Shell (she/her) Yokuts Land
44:18
Will we be able to listen to the recording of this presentation when available?
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
44:30
Yes
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
44:42
The recording will be sent out following the event.
Shell (she/her) Yokuts Land
44:48
Thank you!
Erica Tai Gresham
54:59
Wow! Thank you for that information
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
57:58
Erica I teach Black studies and Afrikan-American literature, and never are my white students emotionally distraught or guilt-ridden when they learn this history; instead, they're angry that they were never taught it.
Candis Smith
58:36
@Erica +1 I hear it all the time.
Erica Tai Gresham
01:00:39
I took a African American course in undergrad but some topics were not covered. I took the course in 2003/2004
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:02:05
It's shameful the amount of history that remains hidden to the vast majority of Americans, including Black and Brown folks, not even just white people.
Tye Smith
01:02:37
It's shameful and down right horrible.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:03:15
Tye, exactly. To call it shameful is an understatement.
Tye Smith
01:03:34
Exactly Elka
Nicola
01:04:56
Joining from England tonight and SUPER happy that is in the past :-)
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:05:25
We’ll see for how long!
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:05:46
Welcome!
Maryann McKenzie (she/her/hers)
01:05:53
White Male Power that afforded privilege, all grounded in capitalism
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:06:10
Nicola it's only in the past for folks who are centered and benefit from white supremacy. Welcome to the space.
Tye Smith
01:06:18
If things keep going the way they are..not much longer
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:07:24
Which Ida B Wells disproved in the Red Record (the myth of the rapacious Black man).
Tye Smith
01:07:36
This is blowing my mind.
Candis Smith
01:08:07
This is why Amy Cooper (2020) felt justified on calling the cops on the Black male birdwatcher.
NanetteDMassey.com
01:08:11
Welcome to the Rde Pill, Tye Smith.
NanetteDMassey.com
01:08:19
Red Pill
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:08:53
I would argue that race-based fear goes back even further to Bacon's Rebellion and the invention of "whiteness."
Tye Smith
01:09:05
Nanette I feel like I've fallen down the rabbit hole, but I am so thankful for this presentation.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:11:00
Lol Tye!! 😁
Shell (she/her) Yokuts Land
01:11:06
Sadly, none of this is “in the past”. The reverberations continue and renew as we speak. This is so important. We must also change k-12 school curriculum if we have any chance for sustained awareness, much less change.
Erica Tai Gresham
01:11:35
Agreed, Shell!
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:12:21
Well said Shell.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:13:13
As Malcolm X said, "Don't talk to me about the South. If you're anywhere south of the Canadian border, you're in the South."
Shell (she/her) Yokuts Land
01:13:59
This is such an important program. Please all, share other spaces for more education and personal development. I’d appreciated anything shared to continue my own education. Thank you!!!!
NanetteDMassey.com
01:14:32
Read about the "danger" of mixed race children https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/toaster-settings-killed-the-radio-star-kpkn/
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01:14:35
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Shell (she/her) Yokuts Land
01:14:56
I’ll contribute: https://educationforracialequity.com/
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:15:07
Also the SpeakOut Summer Institute next month: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/speakout-summer-institute-2022-tickets-310124660207
Krista Howard
01:15:22
Will we be able to get a copy of the comments and the resources shared here???
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:15:37
Yes!
Justin Fowler (he/him)
01:18:24
@Shell - I had a high school AP U.S. History teacher who assigned us "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn as an optional, supplemental textbook for the course. If you have not read it before, it covers some of the topics in this presentation, and I was grateful to learn about some of that history at the time which was not included in the normal curriculum.
Nadiyah Taylor
01:19:43
Unless of course that discomfort is experienced by a BIPOC person or other marginalized group
Candis Smith
01:19:59
Ronald Takaki's A DIFFERENT MIRROR is another fantastic resource. It presents American history from the perspective of the oppressed.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:20:30
Candie yaaas!! Takaki is a must-read.
Candis Smith
01:21:58
For sure, Elka. Takaki is required reading in my courses.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:22:56
That's awesome Candie, good for you, love it.
Candis Smith
01:24:00
Now, how do you teach about slavery and no one feel some shame. guilt, distress, etc. about it?If you don't, you don't have a pulse.
Erica Tai Gresham
01:24:58
Librarianship is overwhelming 80% white and female. The connections run deep
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:24:58
Candis exactly, and our role is not to protect or monitor feelings, it's to teach truth and impart knowledge.
Candis Smith
01:25:15
Amen, Elka!
Betsy Kaufman (she/her)
01:26:46
Exactly! Of course this makes me feel guilty. And also angry it's been stamped out. But it's still necessary. The point of teaching should not be to avoid guilt, but to impart truth and knowledge!!
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:28:28
The idea that this 80% white, majority suburban/, middle class population of American teachers are out here teaching CRT and making white kids feel bad is just laughable on its face. Jacqueline is absolutely right that these laws are meant to control the flow of information and protect white supremacist structures.
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:30:34
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Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:31:21
Exactly, we're ALL culturally conditioned to uphold white supremacy. As I tell my students, you don't have to be white to be a white supremacist.
Tye Smith
01:34:10
Yesss Elka
Candis Smith
01:34:26
Absolutely, Elka.
Valerie Striplin She/Her
01:35:14
Recognizing our role, not using guilt as an excuse but as a way to grow, and doing the work every day to better ourselves and help others learn.
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:35:51
https://centerforearthethics.org/the-story-of-how-humanity-fell-in-love-with-itself-once-again/
Tye Smith
01:36:03
Knowledge is power
Justin Fowler (he/him)
01:36:13
I recall my high school instructor directing us to push our desks aside and lay down on the floor in rows for his lecture one day while he described the conditions on trans-atlantic slave ships, and he asked us to imagine and empathize with those conditions. That wasn't a damaging experience that we needed protection from, it was valuable.
Candis Smith
01:37:15
Joy DeGruy speaks on this beautifully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9KfhemgUf4.
Tye Smith
01:37:46
Thanks Candis
Candis Smith
01:38:13
Joy DeGruy: About resolving trauma and how we can all BE the healing."
Anthony H
01:38:18
If I have made no error, here is that link:https://centerforearthethics.org/the-story-of-how-humanity-fell-in-love-with-itself-once-again/
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:38:23
Candis, Dr. DeGruy is going to be the featured speaker at our Juneteenth event!!
Tye Smith
01:38:38
This was AMAZING and eye opening
Katie Wainwright
01:38:44
Thank you so much. I have to leave early. I appreciated all of this!
Candis Smith
01:38:47
Thank you, Anthony.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:39:05
It's going to be virtual and free so if you're interested in attending hit me up! ejackson@centerfornv.org
Kathy Obear, she/they
01:39:07
so appreciated the data, facts, comparative analysis!!!
jean Caiani
01:39:35
Thank you Jackie! That was an amazing presentation.
Candis Smith
01:39:38
Wow, Elka! That is fantastic! I'd love to attend:)
Tye Smith
01:39:45
Elka I would love to attend. Tsmith@rappahannock.edu
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:40:05
Feel free to add questions here
Candis Smith
01:40:44
A wonderful presentation, Jackie. I loved the legal basis to white supremacy in America. SO eye-opening!
Nadiyah Taylor
01:40:46
Can you speak more about the white rage part of the story? Do you have suggestions for breaking through?
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:40:53
Or raise your hand if you would like to ask a question to Jacqueline
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:41:06
Those of you who are interested in the Dr. Joy DeGruy conference on racial healing, feel free to contact me. Just an FYI: the conference is geared toward people of Afrikan descent.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:41:45
Jacqueline, THAT part!
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:42:34
The American education system has been causing harm and trauma to Black and Brown children for generations and no one is writing legislation to stop that.
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:42:55
Dr. Joy DeGruy is a SpeakOut Speaker as well For more info (including how to bring her to speak) https://www.speakoutnow.org/speaker/degruy-joy
Anthony H
01:45:43
I appreciate Ms. Taylor's question. I have had that too
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:47:23
If you have a question you can raise your virtual hand or put it in the chat
Candis Smith
01:48:26
Thank you for your question, Lucy. Capitalism is so intertwined with (if not the basis of) racism.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:48:28
Lucy to your point, I highly recommend "The Half Has Never Been Told," which examines enslavement and white supremacy as the root of American capitalism.
Anthony H
01:48:38
Seconded
Candis Smith
01:48:46
Whoo---thank you, Elka!
Amalia Mesa (SpeakOut) - she/they)
01:49:43
https://centerforearthethics.org/the-story-of-how-humanity-fell-in-love-with-itself-once-again/
Karen (she/her)
01:50:48
Interested in your thoughts and the intersection of white women’s internalized patriarchy and racism.
Terre O'Malley
01:51:01
Thank you Jacqueline and SpeakOut!
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:51:23
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Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:51:55
Omg Jacqueline, I literally just said that to my students yesterday as we vented together about what's happening with Roe.
Maryann McKenzie (she/her/hers)
01:51:56
'Success is never final,' Freeman Hrabowski
Jen Peterson
01:52:13
I appreciate all of the modeling done through Jacqueline's talk and the event itself. May we rise to this challenge.
TSW Board
01:52:58
Thank you SpeakOut and Jacqueline and team! Great sessions.
Lucy McLaughlin
01:53:02
Thank you Candis and Elka
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:53:29
Lucy you're so welcome!
Lucy McLaughlin
01:53:58
I am not anti capitalism, just unrestrained capitalism. We can do better. We need to tie that history along with this discussion as well.
Kathy Obear, she/they
01:54:38
I pray you are right …..
Nadiyah Taylor
01:55:23
That is a hopeful message. My mentor says that we can't make change without hope. 🧡 I'm sorry to run to a meeting, thank you for this Speak Out and Jacqueline
Lucy McLaughlin
01:55:54
The only way out is in!!!
Lucy McLaughlin
01:56:07
Gotta go. Great presentation
Erica Tai Gresham
01:56:09
YES!! Lucy
Kathy Obear, she/they
01:56:26
great comparison with not guilty men, thank you!
Rob Sjoberg (he/him)
01:56:51
Thanks, everyone! I'm off to teach my next class.
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:57:08
Have a good night Rob!
Regan Brashear
01:57:49
Thank you!!!
Valerie Striplin She/Her
01:57:51
Thank you!
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:57:51
Thank you all!
Yehudit Lieberman (she/her)
01:57:51
White women in particular feel guilt, I think.
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:57:54
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Lauren Thomas (she/her) | E3 Alliance
01:57:57
Thank you!!
Kathy Obear, she/they
01:57:57
I wonder if white men feel as much guilt as white women related to whites and racism…
Krista Howard
01:57:59
thank you thank you!!!
Thamina Jaferi
01:58:01
thank you!
Lara Hayden (she-they)
01:58:02
Thank you! I enjoyed being in this space tonight!
Cynthia Pesantez
01:58:03
Thanks Jackie!
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:58:07
For more info on Jacqueline Battalora (including how to bring her to speak): https://www.speakoutnow.org/speaker/jacqueline-battalora
Kirsten Downs (she/her)
01:58:10
Thank you so much!
Angelica Rackow (she/her)
01:58:12
Thank you! This was a great session and conversation :)
Betsy Kaufman (she/her)
01:58:12
question for another time...It strikes me that so much harm has been done by the white "God" As you said the guardians of the law claim to use God's will towards whatever end they want. The white god has done so much harm. How can we separate "religious morals / family values" from racial progress?
Candis Smith
01:58:14
Thank you Jackie and SpeakOut!
Anita Roberts
01:58:15
thank you!
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:58:17
Register for SpeakOut’s Summer Institute Building Power for Political and Personal Change on Campus June 27- 30 9:00 AM – 12:00 PM PDT. More details and tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/speakout-summer-institute-2022-tickets-310124660207
Elka Jackson-Center for Nonviolence
01:58:17
Great session Jacqueline and SpeakOut, thank you!! Nice to have been in the space with all of you!
Susie Coffman-King
01:58:21
Thanks so much for this powerful talk and conversation!
Anthony H
01:58:22
Thanks
Shavonnee (SpeakOut) - She/Her
01:58:24
Take care everyone!