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Arch Cape Forest Town Hall March 12 2022 - Shared screen with speaker view
MDW
50:21
MDW is Rich Wollert
philsimmons
50:44
yes
Administrator
51:35
Your screen is not on, by the way.
Joe Sherman
55:36
Yes, let's hear the story, then have Q&A.
Admin
56:37
Hello- If you have questions, please send them via chat and questions will be answered when appropriate. Thank you!
T Merrell
01:08:54
WHY CANT WE SEE THE SPEAKERS
johnpiatt
01:09:58
Look at Phil chick’s window which shows the fire station and speaker in a small window.
Tim KE7TAC
01:13:57
As I understand it, the Forest Service Grant requires a local community match of 25%-how is this ~$1M going to be taken care of
johnpiatt
01:15:04
The county and state grants are viewed as matching funds to federal grants I believe.
Tim KE7TAC
01:17:05
I would like to hear Board Member response
Admin
01:18:43
Thanks for your question, Tim. We will be sure to answer this question for the group.
Dale Mosby
01:25:18
It is helpful for people on the Zoom meeting if the speaker stays near the room microphone - especially not turning away from that microphone when walking.
Admin
01:28:11
Thanks, Dale!
Joe Sherman
02:01:30
Rick, you mentioned "extensive logging". Is this consistent with the aims of a more natural forest?
Eeva Lantela
02:03:31
is all the logging that will be done be selective thinning and no clear cutting or spraying of chemicals
Jen Whaler
02:09:08
What entity is responsible for providing oversight during logging to ensure that the Plan is executed properly?
Joe Sherman
02:09:10
Thanks!
Bill Gaylord
02:13:43
What mechanism is there in the plan or the purchase agreements or elsewhere that binds future managers to the plans and limitations we are assuring each other about today?
Rosemary
02:13:48
Even if it isn’t “clearcutting”, when you remove 62% of this forest it was cause a rise in CO2 and dry out & heat up our remaining forest which will increase our wildfire risk.What are you planning on doing to counteract that?
Eeva Lantela
02:14:55
I have read reports from B.C. that chemical spraying in forests, which they have done heavily, dries out the soil and has contributed heavily to their forest fires in recent years. If it's decided that spraying may need to be done how is that decision made and will there be opportunity for the public input?
Rosemary
02:17:46
p.s. I have already read this…and a LOT of other info. about conservation, watershed protection, agroforestry & deforestation, etc… So, please don’t be condescending.
Jen Whaler
02:23:09
Does that include boots on the ground oversight?
Jen Whaler
02:23:24
… or just administrative oversight?
Amy Singh, ODF
02:23:33
In addition to what Ben just stated, ODF must approve the management plan and any future edits as well as annual reporting to oDF per Forest Legacy funding.
Linda Eyerman
02:24:30
Looking for clarification. If we can obtain more grant money or raise more private donations or both, how will this increased funding be used?
Joe Sherman
02:25:27
https://www.archcapewater.org/_files/ugd/ccbc7f_73ae230c04c94c77be5b53cb409bc32b.pdf
Joe Sherman
02:25:52
Thanks for the recommendation to read this doc - very clear.
Steve Pinger
02:26:54
as a ratepayer, I would support a surcharge on my bill to offset revenue logging.
Steve Pinger
02:29:43
it appears that such a surcharge would be $10/month or so; is that correct?
philsimmons
02:31:05
Lots of questions about what the cost is without logging. Can we get an answer to this question?
T Merrell
02:31:54
What are the immediate and future needs of the water and sanitary districts and what kind of rate increase i.e.. assessments, or bonds?
Mary Jo's iPad
02:36:09
I have a greater understanding now of why cutting is required beyond the need for the revenue to pay for forest maintenance costs. This is thanks to Katie V and Nadia G’s presentations Loved the carrot analogy!
johnpiatt
02:36:23
Are all community forests open to the public? Can it be for community use only?
Rosemary
02:39:18
So, the community has no say so as to whether you “extensively log this” or not?
Admin
02:39:30
We do see your questions and will get to them all. Please be patient, thank you!
Tim KE7TAC
02:41:19
As structured the five year plan, from their SS shows five year income from logging to be $1,096,850... if no logging and working with a five year time line then to match that loss each water hook up (~345) would have to cover ~ $636/year
Steve Pinger
02:42:49
but I am referring to covering the no-harvest expenses, not the desired income
Rosemary
02:42:53
Tim that’s $53 a month for how many years?
Tim KE7TAC
02:43:12
again, staying within the five year period
johnpiatt
02:45:29
Purchase of AC Forest was promoted to protect our watershed and reduce unnecessary expenses? From a ratepayer perspective, were we financially better off having a commercial owner of this forest, since it will cost more now than before?
Rosemary
02:52:22
Yes, it’s already damaged but, you’ll further disrupt that cycle of evaporation & rainfall with this large of a reduction. This is a drastic cut ie; your reference to 2 summers of extensive logging.So, if these “cuts” are only meant to benefit the forest, why not do much smaller, slower cuts?
Rosemary
03:00:42
The biggest question is: how much would it cost - per rate payer or through donations - to not log it at all?
iPhone503 768 4939
03:03:20
I am an Arch Cape property owner- I applaud this purchase and the proposed care of this property. I would hope that whatever is agreed on i hope the AC Water and Sewer would apply the plan to the property they already own and use for solid waste disposal. This property is next to Arch Cape Creek and it is wise to invest in maintaining this creek frontage as it directly affects the property across from the ACSW administration facility. Arch Cape Creek is really part of your property that needs oversight as a “good neighbor” it seems Arch Cape creek should be included in this new management plan. There is need to repair the stream set back areas upstream from the ACSW site and the neighbors who live along this stream. AC creek is having higher water events and we should include it in the total maintenance plan!Monica Moriarty and Bill Kwitman
Bill Gaylord
03:05:12
Comment: my previous question was not intended as hostile to the plan or the planners. i support both of these purchases and salute the visionaries who have made them possible. But the nature of politics and public opinions teaches me that some future board and management of the water district could decide to go a different way and manage this forest towards housing development or logging for profit. I appreciate the answers given, to the effect that these plans are subject to future monitoring by various oversight agencies. I propose that nevertheless, long term vigilance and involvement will be required by members of the community to keep the salutary goals currently at work in the fore. I am less concerned about about future loss of direction for the NCLC piece. And I have no doubts at all that the combined benefits of both purchases and their included careful harvesting components are major improvements over any alternative future for our big beautiful backyard.
Rosemary
03:10:10
Why are we not voting on this?I think many of us would rather pay a bit more in order to not have logging & spraying here
Steve Pinger
03:12:25
agree
CarolynN - New iPad
03:17:49
A sincere thank you to all who have dedicated significant time, passion, and expertise over many years towards the conservation and stewardship of this land.