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NOVA/NCVLI Regional Training - Day 3 - Shared screen with speaker view
Krista Calhoun
14:41
Hello
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
14:49
Welcome!
Claire Selib
15:26
Enjoy all!
Claire Selib
15:54
Stand by and we will break into groups very shortly!
Kristen Watson
27:37
I am going to go to another computer with a camera
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
27:49
Wonderful!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
30:38
box of kleenexfidget toymug or other item with logo from school you attendedsomething that you madesomething to freshen breathsock with a hole in itcoloring booklive plantcoffee beansnon-mechanical pencilpicture of a petself-care itemstuffed toy
K Watson
30:51
Can you add me to group 4
K Watson
31:39
Hi this is Kristen Watson I am supposed to be in group 4
LaMondt Sanders
36:25
Everything
Claudia Zaborsky
36:27
I think our group did!
Dejion Stevens
36:32
We did, I found a sock!
Lee McMillan 2
36:34
Yes, everything
Ashley Ruggerio
36:34
our group did!
Ashley Palochak
36:39
coffee bean
Lee McMillan 2
36:41
Picture of pet
rebostini iPad
36:42
I do not have the fidget
Claudia Zaborsky
36:46
coffee beanssss
Ashley Ruggerio
36:46
sock with hole in it
Arlene Miller (she,her)
36:50
everything
Dejion Stevens
36:54
we didn't get the coffee bean! I forgot
Paulina Ramirez
37:19
I don't think we found a sock with a hole in it
Ashley Palochak
38:02
no you're right paulina
Kayla Raker
41:22
I apologize. My internet keeps kicking me out
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
41:34
No worries at all.
Claire Selib
44:55
Hi all! Stand by-we are re-arranging the groups.
Claire Selib
45:54
Someone will be joining your group shortly!
Claire Selib
48:25
Hi everyone! Please stand by as we figure out the technology. Thanks, Claire
Ashley Palochak
54:28
emotional distress... causes?
Claudia Zaborsky
54:32
safety
Ashley Ruggerio
54:41
emotional distress- refer for individual therapy services
Kristen Watson
54:43
I have seen this a few times. There is something going on here with this alleged victim.
Christina Davis
54:44
def safety
Claudia Zaborsky
54:47
immediate crisis intervention to get additional information before referrals
Ashley Palochak
54:51
delusions? paranoia?
Claire Selib
54:52
Normalize feelings for her-she's not imaginging it
Arlene Miller (she,her)
54:53
fear
Claudia Zaborsky
54:53
SI
Nora Jeanne Hairston
54:55
get here to a safe room where she can be comfortable and feel protected
Christina Davis
54:56
depression
Turia Lott’s iPhone
55:10
abuse, safety
Nora Jeanne Hairston
56:05
we make sure our office does not state domestic violence sexual assault on the sign out front. in case they are seen going into our office
rebostini iPad
57:29
I work for Ormond Beach Police Department as an advocate
Nora Jeanne Hairston
58:55
wow just wow
Claudia Zaborsky
59:16
discuss with her about her phone. need to determine if there is a tracking device or if he is listening. if so, don't do anything that may increase her risk
Claudia Zaborsky
59:55
validate her experience- often stalking can look as if the person is not mentally well--from years of gaslighting
Dejion Stevens
01:00:02
He may also be gaslighting her.
NOVA Webinar
01:00:06
Wonderful Claudia! Technology safety is very important
Nora Jeanne Hairston
01:00:14
try to find a resource that will check her phone
rebostini iPad
01:00:21
I see that if he is in intelligence that he probably is listening to her and tracking her
Nora Jeanne Hairston
01:00:25
I don't know who exactly
Nora Jeanne Hairston
01:01:04
spying tracking is so advanced that it seems impossible to stay on top of it
rebostini iPad
01:01:26
I sent a victim recently to the auto dealer and they found the tracker and we arrested him
Dejion Stevens
01:01:32
I know we've helped with taking a car inspected previously for trackers, but I'm not sure about phones.
Dejion Stevens
01:01:53
We had one give a child a tracking bracelet
Claire Selib
01:02:40
https://www.stalkingawareness.org/
Claire Selib
01:02:58
This is the website but can also share recording fo webinar. AEquitas' SPARC has a great stalking log and other resources.
Nora Jeanne Hairston
01:03:07
in home spy cameras are cheap and hard to find therefore can they truly ever find out if they are being watched listened to and then what can they do about it if he is abusive
Claire Selib
01:03:20
https://nnedv.org/content/technology-safety/
Kristen Watson
01:03:35
I have referred clients to their service providers to scan the phone. CID has assisted as well pulling information from phones.
Claudia Zaborsky
01:03:37
geo tracking
Claire Selib
01:03:41
This is NNEDV's Tech Safety site and they are doing a webinar with NOVA next Thursday, 10/15 if anyone wants to join!
Claire Selib
01:03:51
You can email Angela for information on this webinar.
NOVA Webinar
01:03:52
Your local police departments in Virginia will also help victims who believe they have tracking devices on their vehicles
NOVA Webinar
01:04:41
Please email me if you need any resources AngelaDuhon@trynova.org
Kristen Watson
01:06:13
Thank you
Ashley Palochak
01:06:26
gaslighting!
Claudia Zaborsky
01:07:06
Often hard times to also parcel out true SMI from stalking
Claire Selib
01:07:12
Yes on gaslighting!
Claire Selib
01:07:23
Agreed, Claudia.
Claudia Zaborsky
01:07:23
or stalking reactions/anxiety/depression, etc.
Claudia Zaborsky
01:10:21
I used to call it "crazy-making" but that's not strength based; very obvious emotional abuse. I have heard of abusers breaking into homes when there is a PO and moving things around, etc. Also, creating paranoia, changing the rules, etc. minimizing, etc.
Christy Mcmillan
01:12:57
legal referral
Kristen Watson
01:12:58
Why is there a need to take the step-daughter? Is there physical abuse of the children? Do we need CPS involved?
Claudia Zaborsky
01:13:15
Agree. ask about any previous CPS referrals on this home
Ashley Palochak
01:13:23
I agree Kristen. I think there is a need to gather more information about what is causing her to want to leave.
Kristen Watson
01:13:42
Look into SAFE Houses that can accommodate the family.
Claudia Zaborsky
01:13:44
I would discuss with her a safety plan and a "leaving plan"
Dejion Stevens
01:13:55
Yes
Christy Mcmillan
01:14:00
yes
Ashley Palochak
01:14:05
yes, mandatory reporter
Exzavia Lello
01:14:08
yes
Kristen Watson
01:14:13
I am a mandatory reporter. I make sure to say that first thing before they start to share.
Arlene Miller (she,her)
01:14:14
yes
rebostini iPad
01:14:15
yes
Lee McMillan 2
01:14:23
2 Roles (1 yes, 1 no)
Christy Mcmillan
01:14:25
even if suspected and wife does not disclose precise
Dejion Stevens
01:14:27
Any physical assault that occurs in front of the child also warrants a report
Turia Lott’s iPhone
01:14:29
yes
Ashley Palochak
01:15:46
what about disclosure of child abuse, though? does any role preclude you from reporting that?
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
01:17:36
Christy, which type of attorney(s) do you normally refer victims to for these or other legal issues?
rebostini iPad
01:18:03
family law I would think
Dejion Stevens
01:18:37
We refer clients to Legal Aid here, the Eastern VA office has resources for survivors.
Claudia Zaborsky
01:18:39
is exposure to DV a reportable call to DFS? It was in NoVA years ago
Kristen Watson
01:18:41
Jumping in here. I refer clients to Legal Aid society first to see if they qualify for free services. We have a good working relationship with our local society so they help out a lot.
Dejion Stevens
01:19:12
It if in Norfolk VA, exposure to DV is considered child abuse
Claudia Zaborsky
01:19:20
thank you Dejion
NOVA Webinar
01:19:49
Absolutely! Legal Aid was always my first call
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
01:20:29
Love the warm hand offs!
Susan Overton
01:21:19
What is SVC?
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
01:21:27
Special Victims' Counsel
Dejion Stevens
01:21:31
Oh okay
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
01:21:44
Victims/ Legal Counsel
Ashley Palochak
01:21:45
legal advocate, basically, right?
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
01:21:52
Victims' Legal Counsel *
Nora Jeanne Hairston
01:21:54
if she has ever had sex through sexual coercion anytime in the relationship isn't that considered a victim of sexual assault
Kristen Watson
01:21:54
Christy good question.
Susan Overton
01:22:03
Thank you, I'm civilian so I'm pretty clueless to those
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
01:23:07
SVC and VLC are military attorneys that represent crime victims. The name differs based on service.
Claire Selib
01:23:16
Sexual assault in an intimate relationship is handled by FAP/domestic violence.
Ashley Palochak
01:23:51
I do have clients who have a SAPR advocate AND an SVC, though.
Claudia Zaborsky
01:26:26
this is jumping ahead but U or VAWA Visa
Dejion Stevens
01:26:32
Natalia doesn't have legal residency?
Ashley Palochak
01:27:01
is Cheyenne eligible for advocacy through SAPR on installation?
Dejion Stevens
01:27:03
Refer to VPLC in VA they may be able to help, but does Cheyenne want to report?
Ashley Palochak
01:27:18
she will need civilian service org, right?
Claudia Zaborsky
01:27:34
sorry, was she assaulted off base?
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
01:28:06
Claudia - share why that piece matters in your analysis. that helps
rebostini iPad
01:28:10
off base, jurisdiction
Claudia Zaborsky
01:28:20
will do :)
Arlene Miller (she,her)
01:28:40
If the assault was off base it would be civil
Dejion Stevens
01:28:50
Because she's a dependent does that impact restricted reports or anything?
Kristen Watson
01:28:56
SHARP
Claudia Zaborsky
01:29:03
wouldn't she be able to get help on and off base?
Claudia Zaborsky
01:29:11
if she so chooses? that may spark a report
Claudia Zaborsky
01:29:16
she is still a minor
Dejion Stevens
01:30:35
With her being 17 would you have to make a CPS report?
Dejion Stevens
01:31:16
That was my thought. She can chose to report if she wants, but then she may have to worry about repercussions from her father.
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
01:31:19
For each of you who would your client be - Natalia or Cheyenne
Ashley Palochak
01:31:20
CPS would be if the abuse were a caregiver
Ashley Palochak
01:31:57
date rape situations are law enforcement reports, not CPS
Dejion Stevens
01:31:59
For the YWCA we could offer services to both if they wanted. Natalia for DV, Cheyenne for SA
Claudia Zaborsky
01:32:00
Totally agree with you Dejion…
Claudia Zaborsky
01:32:48
my other concern is that i would def want to have a safety plan for the fam... the min that comes to dad, the risk goes way up
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
01:33:08
Those of you who are mandatory reporters can you share "how" you make the report. What are some victim-centered/victim-empowering way to do that
Dejion Stevens
01:34:30
When we make a report we tell the client we have to make a report and explain why. Then ask if they would like to make the report with or before us. Then we call.
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
01:34:51
@Dejion - love that you ask if they want to make the call with you!
rebostini iPad
01:35:18
Refer victim most definitely for counseling
Claire Selib
01:35:38
Agreed, Dejion! I think this is especially important given her age. Give victim control over release of information. So important!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
01:35:42
For second part of scenario would want a privileged place for Cheyenne so that her privacy and choices are as strong as possible. So loved learning YWCA could serve!
Ashley Palochak
01:35:42
civilian rape crisis center here … better partnership with FAP would be great, so we could provide wraparound services for both women
Kristen Watson
01:36:05
Our shelters here are so limited and we only have two in the immediate area. I WISH we had a partnership with local hotels to use to get victims to a safe place when in need.
rebostini iPad
01:36:32
I belong to victim Coalition which has over 50 partners, we refer to one another
Susan Overton
01:36:37
Definitely a more solid partnership the FAP
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
01:37:02
At NCVLI we are trying to build more partnerships with the schools because that is where disclosures happen a lot and working together can make that safer for survivors
Kristen Watson
01:37:11
Sorry I am in KY
Ashley Palochak
01:37:30
partnerships with schools! that has been such an obstacle for us.
Dejion Stevens
01:37:32
I like the idea about schools! That would be a great partnership to have
Arlene Miller (she,her)
01:37:57
I agree....schools would be great
NOVA Webinar
01:38:05
Kristen - I will ask around and see what I can find
Claire Selib
01:38:08
Encourage everyone to also think about partnering with animal control/humane societies.
Claire Selib
01:38:26
Thank you all!
Ashley Palochak
01:38:28
no, we definitely are working to build that partnership with local schools. it has been severely lacking in our community!
Christy Mcmillan
01:39:47
coming from military side I think it’s important for civilian agencies and partners to notify the installation FAP when they encounter military families where abuse is occurring. many times we find out that local hospitals, schools etc have not contacted us and we are unaware
Ashley Ruggerio
01:43:50
We have successfully partnered with a few of our local schools through our Youth and Family Advocate- Tamiko Burrell. I was not a part of these projects (I am one of the trauma therapists) but I am sure she would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. We work for Transitions Family Violence Services (TFVS) in Hampton, VA. Her email is tburrell@transitionsfvs.org. We have also successfully partnered with a few local hotels as well. If anyone is interested I can see which advocate would be the best for you to get into contact with about partnering with hotels.
NOVA Webinar
01:55:35
Thank you Ashley for your comments
Dejion Stevens
01:57:02
Marks on her neck my indicate a strangulation
Claudia Zaborsky
01:57:16
concerns re: strangulation. would highly encourage medical attention
Claudia Zaborsky
01:57:35
increase risk
Susan Overton
01:57:35
Is not the time to ask whether she wants to do a restricted or unrestricted report?
Susan Overton
01:57:43
**now
Claudia Zaborsky
01:58:52
good that she snapped a photo and texted, but for sure he is probably tracking and will now go to the friend, or start going to the friend. again, safety planning
Isis Morales
01:59:39
Ask her if she is sharing any of this with trusted friends or family to help her as part of her safety plan
Kristen Watson
01:59:42
I have gone through the lethality assessment with a client that is kind of on the fence. When they hear their own answers to the questions they then realize they need help.
Dejion Stevens
02:00:43
Oh that's good to know!
Isis Morales
02:00:53
Same. I did not know that.
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
02:00:54
@Kristen - love the idea of working through tools with a survivor and sometimes they reach a conclusion after that. This is definitely along the lines of some of what was shared during the safety planning session yesterday
NOVA Webinar
02:01:33
https://www.strangulationtraininginstitute.com/
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
02:02:01
So far she has not said he did this
Dejion Stevens
02:03:10
Is there a space where she can report it and it remains restricted?
Dejion Stevens
02:03:17
Oh never mind,
Isis Morales
02:03:56
Very true!
Dejion Stevens
02:05:42
Is this incident occurring 2 months after the sexual assault on Cheyenne? (Christy mentioned assessing things in the home)
Ashley Palochak
02:06:51
if a report must be made, how does safety planning change for her now? because she's going to be at risk now, possibly against her own determinations.
Claire Selib
02:09:03
Great question, Ashley! This should be explained by the VA as one of the positives with unrestricted-more options for safety including MPO, CPO, command separation, etc.
Ashley Palochak
02:09:38
*at greater risk, sorry -- obviously there was already risk
Dejion Stevens
02:11:18
She's in a civilian shelter also, but could she potentially be facing charges for taking his daughter with her?
Claire Selib
02:11:29
SPARC offers a very useful log for tracking stalking behavior: https://www.stalkingawareness.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SPARC_StalkingLogInstructions_2018_FINAL.pdf
Kristen Watson
02:12:03
Law Enforcement about the threats for posting the photos. I would encourage getting a civilian protective order, hoping a MPO is already in place so reporting to his leadership. Looking into a Safety Move or AER Grant. Referral to Legal Aid/Services.
Ashley Palochak
02:12:12
her residency rights could be a challenge for her, as well, depending on how long they have been married.
Arlene Miller (she,her)
02:12:13
civil shelters will also help relocate her to another shelter in another state or area
Susan Overton
02:12:35
Can you elaborate on the "Safety Move" I'm not familiar with that option. What if the Command is less than cooperative? This happens often where I'm at.
Dejion Stevens
02:12:55
Does she need command approval to move?
Ashley Palochak
02:13:12
she may have limited options for staying in the country, if she is not a citizen (separated from her husband)
Kristen Watson
02:13:47
Safety move is where the military cuts her separate orders for her and the children and relocate her.
Ashley Palochak
02:14:21
I have seen a client stay with an abusive partner because she needed to stay married for 5 years before she could get her permanent residency.
Kristen Watson
02:14:42
I have had to referral clients to immigration lawyers for that reason where their citizenship is an issue.
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
02:15:03
Note: The daughter disclosed SA to her father, who did not act.
Ashley Palochak
02:15:14
are they accessible through legal aid, Kristen?
Arlene Miller (she,her)
02:16:09
She has the option to stay in the country with the U-Visa
Kristen Watson
02:16:12
Our local Legal Aid has a relationship with Immigration Lawyers.
Dejion Stevens
02:16:12
Virginia Poverty Law Clinic in Richmond helps survivors file for VAWA self petitions. They may have other counterparts that are similar in other parts of the country
Claudia Zaborsky
02:16:51
U vIsa takes forever
Claudia Zaborsky
02:17:23
https://www.ayuda.com/
NOVA Webinar
02:18:02
Thank you Claudia for the resource.
NOVA Webinar
02:18:23
Deijon, thank you for providing that information
Dejion Stevens
02:19:28
They are also requiring proof of no income for the petition.
Claudia Zaborsky
02:20:06
https://www.tahirih.org/
Claire Selib
02:20:26
I started my work in victim assistance at Ayuda many years ago-great agency!
Claudia Zaborsky
02:20:36
Ayuda is wonderful!
Claire Selib
02:21:06
Agreed, Claudia! ASSISTA is also great: https://asistahelp.org/
Ashley Palochak
02:21:50
thank you for all those resources! that's so helpful.
Kristen Watson
02:24:46
I would also encourage her to speak to her doctor if experiencing anxiety and find a therapist to speak to for her, her step-daughter, kids.
Claire Selib
02:24:57
Great point, Kristen!
Kristen Watson
02:25:40
Family Support. AR608-99. I would be getting command involved, calling in an IG complaint.
Dejion Stevens
02:25:58
If she moves and he files for custody she'd have to return (civilian side)
Kristen Watson
02:27:39
They enacted the Enhanced Interim Financial Support as an amendment to AR 608-99.
Claudia Zaborsky
02:29:08
As far as $$ this would be a good time to check in with local churches for possible assistance-- or even community emergency funds. Although they are probably strapped right now due to covid
Kristen Watson
02:30:58
The bank should have required her signature to take name off account.
Claudia Zaborsky
02:31:12
what about address confidentiality program?
Kristen Watson
02:33:07
Love that video!
Ashley Palochak
02:33:44
can you give a source for that? I've never seen it
Claudia Zaborsky
02:33:57
yes, please send!
Claire Selib
02:34:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obk_Y03APo
Claire Selib
02:34:25
I LOVE this video for advocacy 101 training.
Paulina Ramirez
02:34:25
Thanks for sharing the video
Ashley Palochak
02:34:33
thank you!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
02:37:05
Absolutely critical the jurisdiction! Thanks for flagging that. SO -partners across state lines critical too! So could all of you type in the state you are in. We have a few cross state folks on now!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
02:37:20
NCVLI is in Oregon
Dejion Stevens
02:37:22
VA
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
02:38:42
Hi Eric, Bette and Ryan - we are giving them a 15 minute break and will start a little bit later.
Ryan Guilds
02:38:59
Gotcha
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
02:39:05
3:15 start
Bette Inch
02:39:46
Great! Thank you.
Eric Barreras
02:40:55
Sounds like a plan! Thank you!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
02:53:45
Thank you all so much for sharing all the great ideas in chat over the last 2 hours!
Isis Morales
03:03:10
Wow!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
03:03:57
Feel free to put questions in here for folks. One thing I am always amazed at is the different ways we think about serving!
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
03:09:42
SVCs and VLCs abide by what Ryan is noting. The American Bar Association says that lawyers are to act in a direct representation capacity to the greatest extent possible for child-victims. So long as a child has capacity to guide the representation than it is an attorney-client relationship. When a child cannot direct representation then a guardian ad litem can be appointed to share with the court the "best interests" of the minor. "Best interests" are supposed to be objective based on the guardian ad litem's expert opinion so it is not directed by the minor.
Kristen Watson
03:27:33
Thank you
Claudia Zaborsky
03:27:39
Thank you!
Nora Jeanne Hairston
03:27:50
thank you
Dionne T. Greenhill, M.S.W.
03:28:23
Thanks for a great 3-day presentation!
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
03:29:09
Thank you for attending and participating!
LaMondt Sanders
03:29:36
Thank you
Christina Davis
03:29:42
where do I see this?
Arlene Miller (she,her)
03:29:48
Thank you!
Christina Davis
03:29:54
I dont have it 'm sorry
Christy Mcmillan
03:32:37
explain the difference between MOU and MOA please
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
03:33:11
Great question, Christy.
Dejion Stevens
03:33:55
They are different? They aren't interchangeable?
Kristen Watson
03:34:48
101st Airborne Association
Claudia Zaborsky
03:35:11
Chaplains
Susan Overton
03:35:24
NCIS
Christy Mcmillan
03:36:07
local hotels that reserve rooms for us if we need to place victims in shelter
Isis Morales
03:36:20
court bailiffs
Nora Jeanne Hairston
03:36:46
hotels for safety as well
Claire Selib
03:37:14
I said it before but local animal shelter/animal control :)
Dejion Stevens
03:37:14
JDR court for protective orders
Nora Jeanne Hairston
03:37:15
local sane program hospital, calls for advocate on scene
Christina Davis
03:37:20
Mp's and community LEO
Nora Jeanne Hairston
03:37:38
colleges
Dejion Stevens
03:37:57
schools
Christina Davis
03:37:59
The local CAC
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
03:38:00
law enforcement
LaMondt Sanders
03:38:08
Department of Veterans Services
Christy Mcmillan
03:38:11
any agency that works with victims who are military
Susan Overton
03:38:12
Police
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
03:38:29
military and civilian prosecutors
Isis Morales
03:38:54
schools
Kristen Watson
03:39:06
Local civilian hospitals when our military family members go there for services instead of on base.
Claire Selib
03:39:10
CPS
Isis Morales
03:39:14
School counselors, in particular
NOVA Webinar
03:40:17
For Technical Assistance for NOVA - AngelaDuhon@trynova.org
Desiree - NCVLI (she/her)
03:40:51
For Technical Assistance for NCVLI (legal): https://law.lclark.edu/centers/national_crime_victim_law_institute/projects/advocating-for-military-victims/request-support/
Claire Selib
03:41:11
NOVA's webpage for this project: https://www.trynova.org/military-veterans-and-victim-advocacy-program/
Meg Garvin - NCVLI (she/her)
03:43:53
In addition to feedback on what worked/didn't about these 3 days - would any of you want to be a trainer? Would you want to be on the "expert panel"? Your expertise is invaluable so in addition to what can we do for you, let us know how you can help elevate other advocates!
Claire Selib
03:44:35
Yes, thank you for sharing this question, Meg! Please contact us if you want to be more involved or you have feedback or suggestions for us!
Claire Selib
03:44:47
My email is claireponderselib@trynova.org. Thanks!
Claire Selib
03:45:43
Thank you ALL for joining us and for all you do!
Christy Mcmillan
03:45:44
thank you all so much for the training.
Paulina Ramirez
03:45:46
Thank you for everything and thanks everyone for all you do!
Exzavia Lello
03:45:49
thank you :)
Claudia Zaborsky
03:45:51
Thank you!
Dejion Stevens
03:45:53
Thank you
Susan Overton
03:45:55
Thank you!
Kristen Watson
03:46:06
Thank you
LaMondt Sanders
03:46:14
Thank you again!
Nora Jeanne Hairston
03:46:15
thank you