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Joachim
35:26
What about racial representation?
Jani Hitchen
35:35
Race or ethnicity? Is that part of the criteria so that we have representation across?
Dylan (he/him)
35:51
^^^ and income?
Marcin Gerwin
36:31
Yes, could be also ethnicity a criterion.
Marcin Gerwin
36:43
I'll talk about income as well.
Ed Chadd, he/him
36:44
Yes, race/ethnicity will be a criterion. Marcin will go into Sortition in more detail during his presentation.
Maria Batayola EL Centro
37:03
robust access multilingual, culturally appraise? translatrors
Paul Chiyokten Wagner
37:37
Also demographics.. Indigenous and POC are adversely effected by Climate Disaster
Maria Batayola EL Centro
37:40
what constitutes experts - how about citizen scientists
Mary Smith
37:40
Which five legislators are supporting this citizens assembly and how did it get started?
Marcin Gerwin
37:54
Translation is also used, if needed.
Maria Batayola EL Centro
38:19
If you look at immigrant and refugee data, you definitely would need translation.
Marcin Gerwin
38:53
Maria, could be "witnesses" as well.
Marcin Gerwin
39:08
Not just academics.
Ed Chadd, he/him
39:38
Lots of information on some of these questions at https://www.climateassembly.us/
Maria Batayola EL Centro
39:54
Yes...
Bill McPherson
42:46
A practical question: given the opposition among some elites (you know who) to popular sovereignty, e.g. voting restrictions, rejection of mail ballots, what chance is there for a citizens’ assembly with real power?
Don
46:24
I work with the 29 sovereign tribal governments in Washington, how does the assembly acknowledge and engage sovereign tribal governments?
jolundahl
46:54
to Mary Smith's question, legislators Jake Fey, Joe Fitzgibbon, Zack Hudgins, Steve Kirby and Cindy Ryu have already endorsed the Citizen's Assembly.
Ed Chadd, he/him
47:03
Don, we're just organizing our outreach and would welcome your thoughts on that!
Bill McPherson
47:55
Thank you, Zuzanna, your answer addresses one of the criteria for effectiveness: concession of power from existing elites. That may be true in some cases such as the Irish law on abortion. The problem with climate change is no concession of power by elites.
Don
49:06
What are the benefits of participating in the assembly for tribal governments who have a govt to govt relationship with the US federal govt and WA state govt? These are questions tribal leadership will have before they would participate with the assembly. Thanks Don Sampson, Climate Change Project Director for the Affiliated Tribes of NW Indians
Ed Chadd, he/him
49:29
Bill, this is the first time a Climate Assembly has been tried in the U.S., and in that sense, it's a pilot. We can't know what the results will be, but there is a Theory of Change behind it that has some plausibility and seems worth the try, given the failure of our system to solve the problem so far.
Ed Chadd, he/him
50:36
Yes, Don, that is an important dialogue to have, and we would like to start that conversation ASAP.
Dylan (he/him)
50:55
Arguably, given the other presidential candidate’s new practice of listening (changing his goal from 2050 to 2035), a new president would mean more political power for this assembly
Bill McPherson
51:02
I agree with Ed, that a pilot project is a good start. I think that it will be effective if the climate crisis is sufficiently severe that it wakes up the people (and the elites) to the emergency we are in.
Rick Casault he/him
54:59
When you say randomly selected participants, how is the selection carried out?
Ed Chadd, he/him
55:34
It's a stratified random sample. Marcin can explain more.
Jani Hitchen
56:08
For Washington, is there intentional work to make sure that both sides of the mountain are involved? And are we intentional about making sure that it is not King County run?
Ed Chadd, he/him
56:36
Absolutely, Jani.
Maria Batayola EL Centro
58:13
“Ethnicity” representation does not reflect need for highly impacted climate immigrants and refugee voices
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
01:00:14
agree on immigrant/POC voices would be underrepresented and overly impacted.
jolundahl
01:00:15
the greatest impacted communities will be influential in designing the scoping question of the assembly, and will be asked to participate as important stakeholders, giving presentations to the assembly members, and making sure that their perspectives are front and centered.
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:01:10
Those important impacted communities' voices will be part of the presentations given to all Assembly participants as part of their educational process, as well as during the Proposal phase. But a key concept in the constitution of Assembly participants is to create a "mini-public" representing the state as a whole.
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
01:01:26
thanks, part of the education process
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:02:34
Consider using the states Health Disparities Map to identify impacted communities that need to have a voice.
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:03:28
Great suggestion--thanks. You might be a valuable Advisor to the Coordinating Team!
Dylan (he/him)
01:06:00
Where is there space for young voices?
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:09:33
Pedro: Those 5 key State House Committee Chairs will be at least mentioned in the participants' information letter, and it would be good if their signatures were on that letter as well.
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:10:18
Minimum age of participants might be as young as 12...there's also the possibility of a separate workshop for youth...Marcin has discussed this.
Dylan (he/him)
01:10:37
Thank you, Paul and PSS! We need to do better!
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:14:40
Sorry, I meant the Participants' Invitation letter...it will at least mention that these 5 key legislators have invited an Assembly.
Paul Chiyokten Wagner
01:15:21
I feel that a time proven system of governance, Indigenous natural law governance should be presented and considered as we First People’s have a road map to paradise and colonial government has a road map to the end of life on Mother Earth. We are not in Europe and we need to listen to the First People’s here to understand how we created wellness with every living being
Paul Chiyokten Wagner
01:15:54
America’s attempt a democracy was borrowed from the witnessing of our Indigenous democracy but they failed because the 3rd triad of decision making that became the Supreme Court did not use a council of Traditional elder indigenous women to guide society into life. So instead they put in old white men to insure their dominance upon all life on Mother Earth and this is another way that we got to the edge of the cliff with a dying planet
Bill McPherson
01:16:05
Johanna’s last point is one of the most significant: the politically polarizing nature of climate policy. Even with a good policy, there will be resistance from those with vested interests in fossil fuels.
Paul Chiyokten Wagner
01:16:24
Here on Turtle Island I feel we should be return to a proven system of governance and give the last voice spoken at every assembly meeting to Traditional elder indiigenous women. This is one of the most important ways that we co-created paradise here for 30 thousand years… time immemorial
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:16:28
Your voice is important, Paul, especially since you inspired this effort. Let's figure this out.
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
01:17:44
Is there a political outreach role focused on mayors and counties?
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:19:05
We are lucky to have a lot of wise women on our State Supreme Court. Changing the whole system will take more time if it's to be done non-violently, but certainly the Assembly could address larger issues of governance structure.
Barbara Lewy
01:19:58
Would the workgroup selecting the coordinating committee also include tribal reps?
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:20:10
The focus of this Assembly is on what the State government can do to address the climate crisis, but we welcome your input about outreach to Cities and Counties.
Linnea Lundahl
01:20:11
Inspiring! Great information Jo! I’ll attend then next info session to keep learning more
jolundahl
01:22:23
my email is media@climateassembly.us or info@climateassembly.us
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:24:17
Is Front and Centered involved in the selection of the coordinating org, on coordinating and design committee?
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:26:14
The Hiring Committee has not yet been formed, but a group such as Front and Centered would be extremely important to have as part of that committee. Can you help us make that connection?
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:26:36
Yes. El Centro is part of the founding orgs.
Linnea Lundahl
01:27:02
Absolutely! Time to make our government hear this!!!
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:27:17
Paul, I think your voice needs to be the first one to be presented to the Assembly...just my personal opinion...
Dylan (he/him)
01:27:18
I’d love to see young voices centered in this conversation, even if it means 18 and 20 year olds.
Linnea Lundahl
01:27:20
Never give up.
Dylan (he/him)
01:27:46
Ed, and the last.
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:27:53
A vision of decolonized climate agenda
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:29:37
Decolonization is at the heart of most of the solutions needed in our current society...it will not be an overnight task to decolonize...but we must work on this in every way we can, and this Assembly can provide one step toward that.
Linnea Lundahl
01:32:09
Honored to hear you speak out on this issue. Thank you. Your passion and strength shines through and what we need to make systemic change.
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
01:32:20
Climate Crisis is not true, it is world-wide Ecological Collapse. Listen to indigenous voices.
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:32:29
It's so important to begin from a place of love...and a well-run Assembly can create that atmosphere.
Rick Casault he/him
01:33:13
While it is important to act locally, in the state of Washington, but we must also act globally to stop this global disaster. How do we begin the international climate assembly?
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:33:40
Citizens refer to US Citizens - there are many many non-US citizens living in WA. Let’s consider WA Residents Assembly or Washingtonians Assembly
Dylan (he/him)
01:34:24
^^ second that
Ameya
01:34:59
Seems like there's some space to modify the European Citizens Assembly to include governmental styles like elder councils embraced here on our Continent. Paul's suggestion of having an elder say the last word seems smart...
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:34:59
We're hoping this Assembly will kick-start Assemblies across the country, and hopefully then a national one. There will be a presentation on the national level by the Citizens' Climate Assembly on July 21. I'll try to put a link in the chat. Lots of other countries have already created Assemblies...there's momentum...
Coleen Anderson
01:35:04
Thank you Paul for your words of wisdom and your passion. You are an amazing inspiration to us all!
Linnea Lundahl
01:35:30
You did create paradise. I know that.
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:35:32
Hear hear !!!
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:36:00
Good point about the word Citizens...citizenship will most definitely not be a factor in participation.
Maria Batayola EL Centro
01:36:04
Need to go. Please keep me in the loop.
jolundahl
01:36:45
Thank you for joining us Maria! We'll be in touch!
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
01:37:06
lets walk before we can run!
NICK MANNING
01:38:09
it would be nice to have an administration willing to at least symbolically sign on to building-block strategies from the paris agreement before we can think about collaborating internationally
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:39:07
Still, an international assembly could one day be convened by the United Nations.
jolundahl
01:39:15
True!
NICK MANNING
01:40:48
It kind of is already - we have had plenty of COPs since Kyoto. what would be different about this than what exists within the UNFCCC and other international frameworks?
Linnea Lundahl
01:40:50
I will be there! Let’s get everyone we know to join and learn!
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:41:17
21st info session: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/personal-and-political-power-citizens-assemblies-on-climate-registration-112687722010
jolundahl
01:41:48
https://www.climateassembly.us/personal-and-political-power
Dylan (he/him)
01:41:53
I have a question also.
Heidi J Vierthaler
01:42:17
I feel blessed to have been able to join you. I was in my Compassion Course and just joined!I am sending my condolences for all who we have lost to this Pandemic, and racial injustices and violence, and my love and prayers for everyone's health, happiness, and vitality, from Southern Maine in Wabanaki Territory.
Barbara Lewy
01:45:17
Please define scoping question
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:45:32
Dylan, if you'd like to pursue organizing the idea of a separate workshop for randomly-selected youth, let us know. It would take a separate effort.
Rick Casault he/him
01:45:59
I like the notion of sub-assemblies of stakeholder interests to send representatives to the main assembly. Respectful, effective and efficient.
Jason Stephens
01:47:25
oops! I just lowered someone's digital hand on accident. Please raise it again whoever you were. Sorry
Ed Chadd, he/him
01:47:45
Rick, this is an interesting idea...perhaps you can discuss this now with Marcin et al.
Ron and Deejah
01:48:10
We would like to reinforce that the "Citizens'" Assembly should include non-citizens, who are part of the community and are subjected to taxation without representation.
Dylan (he/him)
01:48:20
Thanks Heidi!
jolundahl
01:49:41
The "Citizen's Assembly" name is a holdover from the history of the model, which comes from ancient Greece, with the idea of the randomly selected participants coming together to deliberate and make policy proposals. BUt in modern day, it doesn
jolundahl
01:51:47
'... it doesn't have to be only CITIZEN'S who participate.
Heidi J Vierthaler
01:52:36
Thank you here's my email: HeidiJV@hotmail.com I so appreciate your answers, and look forward to hearing from you!Thank you so much for all of your endeavors!
jolundahl
01:52:53
Thank you for joining us!
Heidi J Vierthaler
01:55:20
I would like to propose a Panel Discussion regarding the Hydro-Quebec Issue!Please also find information about this on my Facebook Profile Photograph caption at Heidi J Vierthaler!
Marcin Gerwin
01:55:23
More about the global citizens' assembly:
Marcin Gerwin
01:55:24
https://www.globalca.org/
jolundahl
01:55:53
Reposting a great question from nick manning: we have had plenty of COPs since Kyoto. what would be different about this than what exists within the UNFCCC and other international frameworks?
NICK MANNING
01:57:48
thanks for the response
Heidi J Vierthaler
01:58:53
So many Governments seem to be lead by Corporate interests that tend to be tied to Fossil Fuel Companies. What can we do about that?
Paul Chiyokten Wagner
01:58:54
The UN should be renamed “United Colonial Nations” There is no Indigenous nations representation.
Rick Casault he/him
01:59:21
Thank you Zusana! (my apology if I misspell your name)
Dylan (he/him)
01:59:25
Click the 3 dots next to the chat to save it!
Paul Chiyokten Wagner
01:59:44
I pray that this assembly doesn’t become the the UCN
Heidi J Vierthaler
01:59:56
...lots of corruption, especially in Tacoma Washington's City Council!
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
02:01:49
we need more comprehension about what colonialism is, just as we misunderstand white supremacy we misunderstand colonialism. A deep dive into our souls!
Heidi J Vierthaler
02:03:29
So true Paul, thank you so much for your endeavors.Is this group from the state or Washington DC?
Courtney N Love her/she Tacoma
02:04:04
WA state
jolundahl
02:04:05
This group is based in Washington State. We are focused on the Citizen's Assembly on Climate in Washington State.
Dylan (he/him)
02:04:28
Thank you all!
Heidi J Vierthaler
02:04:42
Thanks, I am so homesick for our Pacific Northwest Cradle!!!!
Pam Kepford 350 Everett
02:05:23
invite communities of faith?
jolundahl
02:05:35
Yes, definitely
jolundahl
02:06:03
www.climateassembly.us