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Dynamic Discussion: Being an Ally - Shared screen with speaker view
Stephanie Noblit
17:33
*Lab Week! whoops, still have my law brain on lol
Kim Von Ahsen
17:34
@Stephanie Law week....are you autocorrecting with your other passion
Sarah Beatty
17:50
lol @Stephanie
Deb Rodahl
19:58
Thanks for saying Yes!
Dana Baker (she/her/hers)
23:06
Cold lol
Maddie Josephs
23:06
cold
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
23:08
cold!
Stephanie Noblit
23:14
comfortable
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
23:17
comfortably cold
Cheyenne Reyes
23:18
comfortable
Kristen Croom
23:31
warm
Jaime Marshall
23:49
Comfortable
Kristen Croom
24:03
sorry wrong question, 68 is freezing
Melanie Giusti, EdD, MLS(ASCP)CM
24:05
comfy
Maddie Josephs
24:22
If I'm sleeping, I would want it cooler!
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
25:02
I would need 3 blankets at 68
Kyle Riding (he/him/his)
25:03
@Maddie, I am with you…night time needs the coolness with lots of blankets
Christen Diel
26:19
The humidity means EVERYTHING!!
Stephanie Noblit
28:33
I would say next to or behind
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
28:46
Experience frames one's perspective.
Christen Diel
28:49
joined with
Maddie Josephs
28:53
Next to or joined with
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
29:09
all
Sarah Taylor
29:12
All depending on the situation.
Jaime Marshall
29:15
I think it depends on the situation. I see them all as being possible.
Cheyenne Reyes
29:56
I also think it depends on the situation
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
30:09
It's however you as the ally can best support any of the communities.
Jaime Marshall
31:19
I think as long as you’re not speaking over the group you’re being an ally with.
Christen Diel
31:29
I agree with everything Kyle just said. Well spoken!
Kyle Riding (he/him/his)
32:16
@Cheyenne: Def situational as well!!
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
32:35
I think "in front of" functions best in the context of leveraging privilege to protect people from consequences of being against the system.
Stephanie Noblit
33:02
Good point @Sarah.
Jaime Marshall
33:10
Very good point!
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
33:42
Absolutely Kyle!
Maddie Josephs
35:14
I worry about that Dana....That I will do the wrong thing
Maddie Josephs
35:39
thank you
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
36:58
students in a classroom with activities
Stephanie Noblit
36:59
The children are doing arts and crafts at the table.
Dana Baker (she/her/hers)
37:04
Arts and crafts time for the young scholars!
Maddie Josephs
37:05
Classroom teacher, most likely an art teacher, with students
Jaime Marshall
37:07
A group of students are in a classroom doing arts and crafts.
Christen Diel
37:21
The children are interacting in a classroom with a teacher.
Maddie Josephs
37:53
I love that!
Jaime Marshall
37:55
A teacher is standing in front of a desk speaking to a student.
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
39:24
painter
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
39:42
jazz hands
Justin Hanenberg
39:55
LOL jazz hands YAS!
Kyle Riding (he/him/his)
40:42
I have a lot of feelings about this.
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
40:53
my penmanship is what my staff would say
Kyle Riding (he/him/his)
41:00
Lol @Abby
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
41:28
soooo what is the problem?
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
45:19
including health status, too
Jaime Marshall
45:58
Or having to make someone prove the legitimacy of their disability.
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
46:25
@jaime yes, it can be very demeaning and othering
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
46:54
we r big advocates for accommodating restrictions...
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
47:02
Allyship is supporting the person's experience - the seen and unseen
Justin Hanenberg
47:07
Do you feel people may downplay their needs to not "rock the boat" or seem "needy"?
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
47:32
it is in the leadership and the culture
Jaime Marshall
47:46
Yes, depending on their experiences with things before.
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
47:48
perhaps
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
48:22
but it is hard to accommodate those with hearing impairment with the use of masks...
Jaime Marshall
48:39
Definitely @Kyle
Lindsey Clark
49:05
I think people do downplay their needs. I have and sometimes still do. Partially because my diagnosis is fairly new, but also I don't want to put my job or career in jeopardy.
Kristen Croom
49:33
I agree Lindsey
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
49:45
examples?
Justin Hanenberg
50:44
@Abby, definitely an oversight in how to manage PPE and patient care. Same with video conferencing tech.
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
50:45
it's unfortunate when people assume you represent the entire group
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
51:16
idk..... if it is not work related or professional.... I just try to keep things at a safe distance..
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
53:08
but if it is outside of work... I ask questions , and profess my naitivity or ignorance and apologize upfront not to mean to of
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
53:13
offend
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
53:59
I tend to be more of a listener....
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
54:30
observer
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
55:27
I think understanding that the individual you ask a question of, has the right to not give you an answer and you need to be ready to accept and appreciate that.
Dana Baker (she/her/hers)
56:08
Absolutely @ Kim
Cheyenne Reyes
56:31
I try to be aware of the when/where I may be asking any questions as well. Environment is important. While a close friend of mine may be comfortable speaking in their viewpoint, that does not mean they want to discuss it in front of someone else
Stephanie Noblit
56:44
Yes, Kim makes a good point. It is important to respect boundaries
Jaime Marshall
56:51
@Kim absolutely! To also not expect the individual you ask a question of to do all the labor in educating you on a specific topic.
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
56:56
Do we have Leadership Academy topics on diversity and inclusion for the workplace?
Justin Hanenberg
57:30
@Abby I like to frame something as a "clumsy question" professing ignorance that I don't know the best way to ask. Hoping to convey positive intent for getting to know someone.
Cheyenne Reyes
57:59
Absolutely. No one has a right to an answer about someone else's experiences.
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
58:08
@Kim - I also think that it's okay to let the person know that you aren't sure how best to ask something but that you would like to further your understanding and personal growth.
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
58:46
@Sarah I don't believe the current curriculum has DEI but it is something that as the Board works on the strategic planning is aware we need to add more DEI to programs such as the Leadership Academy
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
59:05
@Melanie with the caveat that it shouldn't be used to say a slur or other offensive things
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
59:17
@Sarah - there is a module coming soon to Labucate on this topic!!!
Christen Diel
59:23
Tone of curiosity is important
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
59:49
@Melanie I'm in the LA committee and I don't recall anything in the curriculum in particular
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
59:52
stay away from social media
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
59:52
@Melanie great news! Assuming that will be for all ASCLS members?
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:00:14
agree with the apology
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
01:00:44
@Kim - yes - it is a module/course that the LDC has been working on.
Jaime Marshall
01:01:06
Absolutely! Is the apology followed by actions? Have you educated yourself and done the work to back that up.
Christen Diel
01:01:14
Accountability to ignorance or poor choice
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:02:02
agree
Jaime Marshall
01:02:27
Agree! @Kyle
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:02:31
Regarding the workplace, it's important to foster a safe environment. I've found that when the environment is safe, people will reach out and let you know how you can help as an ally.
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:02:47
@ Kyle and Dana...agree
Stephanie Noblit
01:03:00
Also important to remember that only the person you offended gets to accept the apology.
Dana Baker (she/her/hers)
01:03:01
Yes I agree @ Sarah!
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:03:15
ughhhh with the labels....
Maddie Josephs
01:04:16
That is passive agressive
Jaime Marshall
01:04:30
The conditional aspect of the apology shifts the apology from what’s happened to the person to dealing with the emotions of the individual giving that conditional apology.
Maddie Josephs
01:04:35
What Justin said is P-A
Dana Baker (she/her/hers)
01:04:45
Borderline gaslighting...yes
Stephanie Noblit
01:04:57
yes total gaslighting
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:05:56
melting pot
Deb Rodahl
01:05:59
Salad please
Stephanie Noblit
01:06:03
Salad
Lindsey Clark
01:06:07
Salad
Christen Diel
01:06:08
you can't separate a soup well, a salad can be picked a part
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
01:06:28
salad - we can be separate but part of a larger whole
Stephanie Noblit
01:06:39
With salad everyone keeps their own identity, but they form something better together.
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:06:48
Okay, so I never thought about it like that. But def. need to shift my thinking towards a salad.
Christen Diel
01:06:49
agreed stephanie
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:07:10
Instead of the melting pot assimilating everyone
Cheyenne Reyes
01:07:18
I like the idea of salad having different, separate components. However, being a second generation immigrant, I fully embrace the mix of both my cultures.
Cheyenne Reyes
01:08:25
Can it be a soup? haha. The mixing of different flavors cooking together, but certain components also keep their own.
Miles Tompkins
01:08:36
Stew
Stephanie Noblit
01:08:44
yes, like a nice stew
Miles Tompkins
01:08:45
Goulash?
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
01:09:03
I heard someone say it's like a box of crayons - you don't really appreciate all the colors until they are all next to each other. But if you melted them together, it's just not the same.
Stephanie Noblit
01:09:25
I like that @melanie
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
01:09:26
@Dana mushroom analogy is mind expanding!
Justin Hanenberg
01:09:35
I was just thinking goulash - my nana made it. Flavors all mix together and blend but make something completely different together.
Maddie Josephs
01:09:50
While I like food, I use term patchwork. Like a quilt. Pieces are sewn together
Deb Rodahl
01:10:48
great slide
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:11:01
I love this slide
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:11:34
shout out to @wanda taking notes
Stephanie Noblit
01:12:02
Yes, good point @Miles.
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:12:38
seriously who greenlit that movie
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:14:28
@Kyle reading that right now
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:14:44
It's already changed so much of my worldview
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:16:01
equity not equality
Justin Hanenberg
01:16:14
I'm having a mind blow moment right now...
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:17:19
How to be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi is the book we're talking about
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:18:00
respect
Miles Tompkins
01:18:55
👍
Maddie Josephs
01:19:10
Thank you to the DAC and participants for this great evening.
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
01:19:19
Preordered my paperback (for me) and a hardcopy (to donate)!
Stephanie Noblit
01:19:26
Looking forward to reading this next book!
Deb Rodahl
01:19:43
Thanks for sharing tonight!
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
01:19:47
Wonderful discussion!!
Cheyenne Reyes
01:19:49
thank you all!
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:19:49
great talk everyone!
Kim Von Ahsen (she/her/hers)
01:19:53
Thank you Kyle, Dana, Justin, and Miles!
Jaime Marshall
01:19:59
Great talk!
Lindsey Clark
01:20:00
Great discussion tonight. Thank you all for putting this together. Looking forward to more discussions!
Kristen Croom
01:20:01
Thank you!! This was awesome!!
Jean Bauer
01:20:18
Thank you for a great discussion!
Maddie Josephs
01:20:34
YES Dana!!
Sarah Beatty (she/her/hers)
01:21:17
#word
Kyle Riding (he/him/his)
01:21:20
DAC Rocks!
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:21:33
👍
Melanie Giusti (she/her/hers)
01:21:58
Happy Medical Laboratory Professionals Week!!
Dana Baker (she/her/hers)
01:21:58
Happy #LabWeek to all!!!
Maddie Josephs
01:22:02
Thank you Justin!
Maddie Josephs
01:22:08
Yes, Happy Lab Week to all
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:22:09
🙏
Kyle Riding (he/him/his)
01:22:11
Hope to see you all at JAM!!! :)
Heather Patton
01:22:28
thank you
Abby Estilong- UF Health Shands
01:22:29
thanks Everyone. happy lab week!