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Geoconservation in Scotland: Online Training Course - Shared screen with speaker view
Tom Challands
22:11
Congratualations Ian!
margaret
27:21
can the sound be turned up ?
Jason Gilchrist
28:15
Ian mentioned some weblinks at start. I can't see them in Chat. Thanks. Jason
Angus Miller
28:29
ok I'll repost them
Angus Miller
28:40
Site Condition Formhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1qPwoJpQiLbbKiKgVDiKxyS4Cwe15ffcX/view?usp=sharing
Angus Miller
28:52
Site Guidancehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nji89GSDKsXL7K0uRnVHMIdTv-fRUp9g/view?usp=sharing
Angus Miller
29:17
Example Monitoring Formhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1yIstG_-MoKxG-4hK7uZHh42fpAoGhDye/view?usp=sharing
Angus Miller
29:36
Keele site gigapans
Angus Miller
29:41
West Site: http://gigapan.com/gigapans/220202East Side: http://gigapan.com/gigapans/220203
Robert Wills
01:14:55
How often should sites be monitored?
Robert Wills
01:15:57
thanks
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:18:09
Although you could recommend for some that more often is needed. It would be a minority but some are in more sensitive areas. I usually end up with a couple that need looking at more often.
Alan Thompson
01:23:51
What happens to the form after it’s been completed?
Alison Tymon
01:24:39
Are there any LGS which are being condition monitored regularly by voluntary groups?
Robert Wills
01:27:35
presumably this would not require the same specialist knowledge as the designation process? i.e. could enthusiastic volunteers be trained up ?
Alan Thompson
01:27:36
I wondered if there was any sort of link to a database of GC sites?
Alison Tymon
01:28:53
In West Yorkshire, we completed the condition monitoring with enthusiastic volunteers, after a short training session on site.
Robert Wills
01:29:09
thanks Alison
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:29:53
Doing it with a group is really good as it builds confidence otherwise the form can be really daunting
Alison Tymon
01:32:20
We found the process daunting initially, but quickly understood how it should be done, after discussion within the group. Thereafter, the monitoring was a very positive and enjoyable exercise and, as Lesley says, good for the geodiversity group.
Roy Dunn
01:32:24
On the issue of see previous addition of form...A percentage of paperwork is disposed of every few years, so if the original goes, you lose the information. Even with electronic storage, file space has a cost, that someone might attempt to save.
Martin Blyth
01:32:33
Should damage by the public be considered as part of the monitoring? (A site local to me has been damaged by fossil hunters)
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:32:44
yes
Chris Alcorn
01:33:56
I think there is still an issue in that most sites may not be publically owned and private, so local planning authorities are most unlikely to have budget for LGS maintenance and if they do then focus is on public land. It would be most helpful if volunteers groups may want to raise with an owner to see if they could carry out the necessary maintenance although this can backfire - a sensitive one !
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:34:40
SSSi monitoring does include damage by collectors etc as well - NatureScot and the rock collecting/ fossil collecting codes help here
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:37:17
Answer to Chris - yes maintenance and monitoring can be problematic with private landowners and the group does need to make sure they are covered by insurance
Ian Stimpson
01:39:23
We have had to have very large levels of insurance cover for some site monitoring
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:39:46
Following on from Alison's comments Berkshire Geoconservation do regular monitoring using volunteers - we set up a system of 'site champions' so one or two people took on a site as theirs. But then there are only 25 LGS in Berkshire so it is not too onerous.
Alison Tymon
01:41:17
Thanks Lesley. In West Yorkshire we haven't monitored, except informally, by taking more recent photos. There are 80+ LGS.
Angus Miller
01:48:52
Just to let you know the recordings of the sessions will be available from the SGT website https://www.scottishgeologytrust.org/geoconservation-in-scotland-course/
Chris Alcorn
01:53:56
I'm sure Sainsburys, as a national corporate, would react positively, perhaps via their Corporate Social Responsibility and get their 'colleagues' to remove vegetation as part of a day volunteering that think they undertake annually if there were sent a plan by Lothian & Borders Geo-consevration Group indicating exactly what needed to be removed and a decade on from last 2012 maintenance that would gain another 1-2 decades of such an important LGS for the city.
Abigail Brook-Petty
01:54:45
Alison, would I be able to get involved in any geodiversity groups in West Yorkshire? I am in Bradford.
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
01:58:20
Good point Chris - I have worked with many organisations and other volunteer groups to clear sites. Quite often they just love going out doing something like that. We use the wildlife trust volunteers a lot
Alan Thompson
02:04:07
Do we ever decide to just let things grow over and be conserved that way? That happens with some archaeology eg rock art.
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
02:04:46
yes
Lesley Dunlop, GCUK
02:05:39
happens quite a lot with particularly Quaternary sites
Angus Miller
02:06:26
Just a wee follow-on from last week, Chris Alcorn of West Lothian Council sent me these links:West Lothian Council ‘Planning Guidance on Soils’ – adopted April 2021 (1st of its kind in Scotland I’m led to believe) -https://www.westlothian.gov.uk/media/48547/PG-Planning-Guidance-Soil-Management-After-Use-of-Soils-on-Development-Sites-Adopted-April-2021-/pdf/PG_-_Soil_Management___After_Use_of_Soils_on_Development_Sites_-__Adopted_Version_for_Web.pdf?m=637527818523870000‘The Shale Trail – pathway to Scotland’s Oil rush’ web site: https://shaletrail.co.uk/
Alan Thompson
02:07:29
Really nice example, thanks
Alison Tymon
02:08:30
We have recommended in several cases that brambles should not be cleared from the base of a cliff, to deter illegal climbing and potential accidents.
margaret
02:08:38
Strathclyde group would like more help too !
Jason Gilchrist
02:13:19
Thanks all.