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DavidRockello(hey/you)
11:38
Hello all from David & Velinda Rockello
Jack Humphreville
27:30
I have a question
Leonard Shaffer
28:22
Prop 19 - How does ownership of a primary residence by a living trust work under prop 19
Steve Twining
30:25
There is Assembly Constitutional Amendment 9 which has been introduced to eliminate the Prop 19 elimination of transfer to heirs.
Michelle Chambers
30:40
www.assessor.lacounty.gov
Michelle Chambers
31:45
Here is link to join Assessor Prang's newsletter https://assessor.lacounty.gov/News-Information/newsletters
Robert Duarte
32:41
New construction added $8.8 Billion to the 2021 Assessment Roll. For more information visit our website - Newsroom
Adriana De La Cruz
33:33
PROP 19 Form: https://res.cloudinary.com/los-angeles-county-assessor/image/upload/v1622785182/Form/BOE-19B.pdf
Adriana De La Cruz
34:28
LA County Assessor Website: https://assessor.lacounty.gov
Jennifer Goodie
38:27
It is interesting that you switched to an agile sdlc
Jennifer Goodie
39:58
A lot of times it is more efficient, but an unscrupulous contractor can take advantage of an endless sprint cycle
Sam Nooshin
46:35
This is Sam Nooshin, Consultant for a proposed development in Arroyo Seco. After contacting Councilman's office and working with that office, I was referred to Michelle Lopez and Jackie Kim which consequently brings me to this meeting. I have requested to be included in agenda.
Sam Nooshin
47:34
Will I be able to present?
Terrence Gomes SORONC
48:15
Sam, If you send me an email, I can include you on the next agenda. terrencegomes@soronc.org
Adriana De La Cruz
50:34
https://www.lalgbtqalliance.org
Adriana De La Cruz
53:01
LGBTQ Plus Alliance Email:lalgbtqalliance@gmail.com
Glenn Bailey
53:36
SAM: LANCC considers citywide issues of interest to Neighborhood Councils. Please contact the Neighborhood Council in the project area. Thanks.
Adriana De La Cruz
01:04:17
Thank you you for the vote of confidence :)
Adriana De La Cruz
01:04:55
Link to today’s Agenda: http://www.lancc.org/resources/LANCC%20agenda%202021.08.07.pdf
Adriana De La Cruz
01:05:37
Whereas, the Board of Neighborhood Commissioners has before it consideration of amendments to the Code of Conduct Policy, that are extreme, anti-democratic, and un-American, andWhereas, these amendments include the following:“If a Board Member or Committee Member is alleged to have violated either the City’s Workplace Equity Policy or the Commission’s Code of Conduct, the Department, with written approval from the General Manager, may immediately suspend the Board Member or Committee Member for a period of up to 90 days.”
Adriana De La Cruz
01:05:56
andWhereas, punitive action should never be based on an allegation and occur only following due process involving investigation and a hearing and provide the accused the right to a presumption of innocence and opportunity to mount a defense, andWhereas, the following clause grants authority to arbitrarily impose suspensions at the sole discretion of an individual who is not accountable to anyone.“The Department shall be the sole decision-maker with respect to a suspension. The Board Member or Committee Member may not appeal the suspension decision.”
Adriana De La Cruz
01:06:13
andWhereas, this clause fails to provide adequate protections for the rights of individuals accused of misconduct and states that any board or committee member may be suspended solely on an allegation, andWhereas, this is a direct disenfranchisement of the voters who elected the board member and removing a board member without due process gives DONE the unilateral ability to overturn an election;
Adriana De La Cruz
01:06:29
Therefore, be it resolved that:The _____________________ Neighborhood Council expresses grave concern regarding proposed amendments to the Code of Conduct Policy submitted by the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment to the Board of Neighborhood Commissioners.
Adriana De La Cruz
01:07:01
Be it further resolved that:1. BONC is strongly advised to immediately withdraw consideration of the proposed amendments to the Code of Conduct;2. In connection with future revisions of Neighborhood Council paperwork, DONE shall request the Neighborhood Councils appoint a group of representatives to consult with BONC, DONE and the City Attorney on an ad hoc basis;3. An aggregate majority of those meeting shall at all times be Neighborhood Council board members;4. The initial focus of this group shall be to develop and incorporate rules under the City's recently adopted Workplace Violence Policy into the existing Code of Conduct, including appropriate enforcement actions;
Adriana De La Cruz
01:07:17
5. Discussion about incorporating the proposed Workplace Equity Policy shall be deferred until such a policy is formally adopted by the City, if at all; and6. Any amendments to the Code of Conduct must take into account varying degrees of conduct when considering suspension and appropriate penalties, if warranted.7. At all times, policy should require that the minimum correction necessary to address any issue be used;8. No person shall be suspended or otherwise penalized for that which is protected political speech.9. No board member or Neighborhood Council affiliate shall be required to waive rights granted under theConstitution of the United States and the State of California, including but not limited to freedom of speech and assembly, probable cause and due process.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:08:50
Start from scratch... do it fairly!
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:14:14
I believe Len is a good Commissioner & Bob should not speak badly of him...
Bob Gelfand
01:14:52
I agree with Sid and point out that the idea of a negotiated MOU between no’s and the authorities has been proposed in the past and maybe LANCC should begin to talk about it
Bob Gelfand
01:17:00
Let’s not forget the Lisa Sarno report on disruptions in neighborhood councils which was largely rumor and innuendo — the idea of putting this amount of power in the hands of an appointed bureaucrat is terrible
Bob Gelfand
01:20:03
I would suggest that the city equity policy is still to be reviewed either by the city unions or by the courts. We are not city employees.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:22:03
Was the motion made & 2nded yet?
Liz Amsden
01:22:31
Perhaps this new policy Len mentioned should be shot down in flames if it also is in violation of First, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments of the US Constitution.
Bob Gelfand
01:22:54
There is another issue entirely, which is the authority of the DONE and BONC to sentence us to additional training (apparently 6 hours worth) without pay
Kay Hartman - Palms - She (her)
01:23:20
If there are other things going on that we're not aware of, we should be made aware. That's not a reasonable response.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:23:48
Wow... So is the motion moved?
Bob Gelfand
01:23:49
The whole argument is circular logic
Miho, HCNNC
01:24:04
At which meeting was this presented to BONC? July ??? Is it possible to post the actual amendment that is being proposed or does the amendment only include the two clauses within this motion?
Douglas Epperhart
01:24:51
July 19 BONC meeting
Danielle Davis, EPNC
01:25:55
Can the Grievance document be made available after the meeting?
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:26:36
Can you answer Miho's concern
Miho, HCNNC
01:26:45
Abstain
Miho, HCNNC
01:27:06
I would like my answer to be addressed before I vote
Adriana De La Cruz
01:27:20
Link to today’s Agenda: http://www.lancc.org/resources/LANCC%20agenda%202021.08.07.pdf
Danielle Davis, EPNC
01:28:26
Thank you
Adriana De La Cruz
01:28:43
https://empowerla.org/commission/policies-and-meetings/
Jennifer Goodie
01:28:51
https://empowerla.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/CODE-OF-CONDUCT-AMENDMENT-07162021.pdf
Jack Humphreville
01:29:00
Yes. Passing this motion sends a message to DONE and BONC that we have serious issues of trust.
Adriana De La Cruz
01:29:54
NC Budget Day 8/21/21, 9:30 am to 12:30 pm – Register www.BudgetAdvocates.org
Adriana De La Cruz
01:30:03
www.BudgetAdvocates.org
Adriana De La Cruz
01:30:48
https://www.budgetadvocates.com
Adriana De La Cruz
01:30:54
here is the hyperlink
Jennifer Goodie
01:31:51
Thank you Glenn. Context switching is not my friend this morning
Kay Hartman - Palms - She (her)
01:32:39
When you go to BudgetAdvocates.org, please note that we now have a new tab for Budget Day.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:32:41
Can everyone removed the ✔️ marks!
Adriana De La Cruz
01:34:05
Congress of Neighborhoods 2021 https://www.neighborhoodcongress.la
Adriana De La Cruz
01:34:20
There are early morning sessions as early as 8am
Adriana De La Cruz
01:35:06
Next planning meeting follows LANCC at 1:30 pm
Adriana De La Cruz
01:35:08
Join Us at Our Next MeetingJoin us at the August Planning Committee meeting this Saturday, August 7, 2021 starting at 1:30pm.Click here to view the agenda:https://info.neighborhoodcongress.la/8/7_agendaMeeting online via Zoom:https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4657525454Or dial in +1 669 900 6833Meeting ID: 465 752 5454#seeyouthere #NeighborhoodCongressLA #CongressLA21
Bob Gelfand
01:38:04
To Len: I think there should be a moratorium on invention by DONE and BONC — you really seem to be doing more harm than good
Adriana De La Cruz
01:38:54
JULY 19 meeting - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1utye58vREbwlc-0ZFtHw4eGgJTAHNYma/view
Adriana De La Cruz
01:39:29
https://empowerla.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Board-of-Neighborhood-Commissioners-Regular-Meeting-Agenda-07.19.2021-FINAL.pdf
Adriana De La Cruz
01:40:30
Discussion and possible action on Draft Communications Media Policy for Neighborhood Councils (07.01.2021 Draft and 09.29.2020 Draft)(20 minutes). (http://tiny.cc/DigitalCommunicationsPolicyReport - link to presentation & support materials, Feedback from the Neighborhood Council System on Digital Communications Policy , Department of Neighborhood Empowerment Report to Board of NeighborhoodCommissioners )13. Discussion and possible action regarding revisions to the Board of Neighborhood Commissioners Code of Conduct Policy. (See attachment)
David Uebersax
01:43:28
In the meantime, there will be an unprecedented systemwide ADA inspection, further pushing off Hybrid options.
Tony Wilkinson
01:44:03
The requirement for an ADA inspection is arbitrary. We should be able to follow state rule changes when the changes are made. We have ALWAYS enforced our own ADA access requirements. The mandatory inspections are one more "nanny state" excess.
Miho, HCNNC
01:44:30
Thanks Adriana for posting the proposed Code of Conduct Policy from the July 19 BONC meeeting. In the future, it would be helpful to include the actual proposed policy if there are motions referencing it. There are several clauses from the proposed policy that would have been helpful to have been included in the motion to ensure that we are making an informed vote. Also, it would have been helpful if a representative from DONE was invited to also partake in the discussion so that we have an opportunity to ask clarifying questions. Thanks!
Glenn Bailey
01:46:21
The next Board of Neighborhood Commissioners (BONC) meeting is scheduled for Monday, August 16th at 1:00 p.m.
Tony Wilkinson
01:46:59
Miho, they key and frightening document is the "Workpace EQUITY Policy". The new Code of Conduct is gutten of all be nice wording and instead it points to the "Equity" policy (as yet NOT adopted by the city).
Tony Wilkinson
01:47:07
gutted
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:48:49
If Stakeholders & Board members attend in person they get feed by the NC... if you attend by Zoom you have to feed yourself. that's the only inequity now that Zoom has been developed for use with NC's
Adriana De La Cruz
01:50:20
Here is the link Doug is referring to https://empowerla.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Draft-Digital-Media-Policy-for-BONC-on-7.1.2021.pdf
Adriana De La Cruz
01:51:17
The Brown Act gives the public a right to attend meetings of local legislative bodies and publicly comment on any item on the agenda or any item of interest to the public that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body
Adriana De La Cruz
01:51:54
On March 17, 2020, the Governor issued Executive Order N-29-20. This order allowed local agencies to address emergent pandemic conditions by allowing local officials, and the public, to participate in public meetings via virtual platforms. Ordinarily, board attendance via teleconference is regulated by certain provisions of California’s open meeting law, the Ralph M. Brown Act (Brown Act). With recent announcements anticipating the end of certain COVID-19 related restrictions, questions have arisen as to whether local officials will continue to have flexibility to attend public meetings virtually.On June 11, 2021, the Governor issued Executive Order N-08-21, which expressly extends the flexibility concerning the conduct of public meetings through September 30, 2021. Thus, all local government agencies can continue to conduct their public meetings online through September 30
Jennifer Goodie
01:51:58
It kind of feels like the powers that be want to keep us in a reactionary mode because it makes us less productive
Tony Wilkinson
01:52:04
Practically, an in-person meeting with every member having own lapton an camera/mic, is the best technical solution. Can see over the laptop to look at other members and the public.
Glenn Bailey
01:52:17
To subscribe to receive BONC agendas, visit https://www.lacity.org/government/subscribe-agendasnotifications/department-commissions-committees-boards and go down to "Neighborhood Empowerment, Department of"
Bob Gelfand
01:54:13
Miho — what has been said that is derogatory about Len? It’s legal to disagree over policy issues
Glenn Bailey
01:54:23
We cannot edit or censure Chat -- all we can do is ask everyone to be civil -- or turn of Chat entirely. Your choice....
Tony Wilkinson
01:54:58
HCNNC may be a case of if DONE isn't doing anything, maybe BONC needs to take diret action. Personal opinion.
Glenn Bailey
01:55:02
...should have been turn OFF Chat
Bob Gelfand
01:56:24
Giving the chair complete control over the agenda is just bad policy and should be changed — even if it requires a bylaws change. That would solve one problem
Tony Wilkinson
01:56:33
Diff opinion from Glenn. I think we can be civil in the chat. Censoring the chat resource is not in the majority interest..
Jennifer Goodie
01:57:01
If you scroll up, the only thing I see said about Len is he's a good commissioner
David Uebersax
01:57:23
We only censure when you go off Tony!
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
01:57:43
No chat is very important for networking & as far as I see the chat is very civil... it's the talking where we have some issues... let's all be civil needs to be reminded over & over
Tony Wilkinson
01:57:43
I will try to be extra nice :))
Adriana De La Cruz
01:57:46
Leonard Shaffer Commissionerlenshaffer@gmail.com
Adriana De La Cruz
01:57:50
Commissionerlenshaffer@gmail.com
Glenn Bailey
01:58:04
Tony, please read what I wrote: "We cannot edit or censure Chat -- all we can do is ask everyone to be civil -- or turn off Chat entirely. Your choice...."
Adriana De La Cruz
01:58:27
Board of Neighborhood Commissioners Contact info: https://empowerla.org/commission/
Tony Wilkinson
01:58:41
Sry for not having read that, Glenn. Am incomplete agreement.
Tony Wilkinson
01:59:15
in (space) complete [makes a difference!]
Adriana De La Cruz
01:59:36
Per Glenn: We cannot edit or censure Chat -- all we can do is ask everyone to be civil -- or turn of Chat entirely. Your choice....
Adriana De La Cruz
02:00:47
Email the LANCC officers at LANCC@EmpowerLA.org
Adriana De La Cruz
02:00:55
LANCC@EmpowerLA.org
Jack Humphreville
02:01:05
who is the mayor's office is responsible for DONE?
Tony Wilkinson
02:01:27
More helpful to write or call the Mayor's office wth YOU OWN opinion, which may be that the revised code of conduct policy proposal needs to be withdrawn and reconsidered.
Douglas Epperhart
02:01:49
I have always been opposed to the grievance process on account of its complexity. I believe the best way to handle complaints is to create an ombudsman process. It would be quicker, more responsive and independent of DONE.
Adriana De La Cruz
02:02:22
About GM Beltran: https://empowerla.org/mayor-garcetti-nominates-raquel-beltran-as-general-manager-of-the-department-of-neighborhood-empowerment/
Tony Wilkinson
02:03:32
As I pointed out at the last meeting, Raquel Beltran should not be b lamed for the Grievance Policy. Didn't haapen on her watch. The CofC proposal WAS done on her watch, and I prefer to think that it was just not fully considered and would not have been out forward if there had been real Neighborhood Council input.
Bob Gelfand
02:03:46
It doesn’t matter whether Raquel Beltran originated the idea — She introduced it under her own signature and had an ethical responsibility to stand up for individual rights of board members
Jennifer Goodie
02:04:33
I think part of the problem is also how she receives input on matters such as this policy
Bob Gelfand
02:04:35
Everything is always vague when the authorities talk about the problem children. I’m still waiting for even one specific account including the names
Bob Gelfand
02:05:11
Giving DONE quasi-judicial authority (or BONC) is scary
Tony Wilkinson
02:05:26
Bib, we do have legal action, at least proposed, in West Hills.
Kay Hartman - Palms - She (her)
02:05:34
If there is a physical or threat of violence, why are we not calling the police instead of creating bad policy.
Tony Wilkinson
02:05:52
KAY!!! YES!!!
Bob Gelfand
02:06:10
Notice that there is no consideration of the stakeholders being brought in the way the state of California allows for recall elections
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
02:07:41
How can an appointed GM remove an Elected Official on mere allegations?
Liz Amsden
02:08:02
It sounds like what Len talked about allowed for due process - appearing before the Board - and with input and discussion by a number of people and organizations. That is NOT what is stated in the current proposed revisions to the Code of Conduct.
Douglas Epperhart
02:08:08
The problem with COC amendments is the notion that DONE could act to suspend or remove individuals based on continuing behavior that is rude or unpleasant, but not necessarily a violation of the rules.
Bob Gelfand
02:09:01
Physical violence and direct threats are dealt with by 911 calls in every other place in the city. The idea of giving such authority to DONE is laughable
Kay Hartman - Palms - She (her)
02:10:06
Yay Cindy! Happy you're back.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
02:10:48
Velinda agrees with Cindy!
Miho, HCNNC
02:10:59
Just to be clear, I am NOT suggesting that we censure people here or turn off the chat. I just think that we should all be mindful of how we treat people and even if we disagree with each other, do it with respect.
Tony Wilkinson
02:12:11
Vote are allowed on anything! Anyone who questions votes did not take Democracy 101
Tony Wilkinson
02:14:30
We need to protect each other. However, we also need to realize that "city rules" are not going to solve these personal attack issues. Local collective action is the real answer.
Bob Gelfand
02:16:16
Tony and others: If I were to call the Saving San Pedro group a hate group, or refer to their racism and antisemitism, and call out one or more individuals, and in so doing show no respect to them, is that the sort of conduct you would be willing to punish? Or is this protected political speech?
Tony Wilkinson
02:17:51
You have a right to say those things. You may also have legal issues if the statements can be shown to be defamatory to individuals.
Tony Wilkinson
02:18:20
I am not an attorney
Miho, HCNNC
02:18:33
Is there a way to save the chat?
Jennifer Goodie
02:18:39
I participated (and helped with) a large-ish scale hybrid meeting and it went really well with very little technical know-how required and very little money spent, but it probably wasnt' Brown Act compliant because it didn't have to be.
Jennifer Goodie
02:18:49
It's a lot easier than it was even a year ago
Kathleen Edwards, NWNC
02:19:09
Bob: “microagression,”?
Tony Wilkinson
02:19:21
Miho, click on the three tiny dots to the right of "File" at the bottom of the screen. Click on the pop-up that appears to save the chat to your local computer
Tony Wilkinson
02:20:40
If someone joined late (as I did) you will need to get the complete chat from others who have it from the start.
Bob Gelfand
02:21:22
Kathleen: I agree that micro aggressions exist all over, all the time, particularly from the MAGA people who seem to live to do them — But I disagree that the city of Los Angeles can try to force me to change my personality enough to avoid each and every act, gesture, or tone of voice that might be interpreted as a micro aggression by some person
Kay Hartman - Palms - She (her)
02:22:12
I started taking the survey. I stopped because it was clear that the questions were formulated in a way to give the answer they want. I closed the window.
Bob Gelfand
02:24:30
Tony: these are opinions and applied to public personages and are therefore not actionable. Any legal action or lawyer letter would be thrown out of court on a motion
David Uebersax
02:24:30
Yup...
Tony Wilkinson
02:24:47
Micro aggressions, by definition, are determined by what the RECIPIENT believes or says they believe they are. As such, they are hard to prosecute "legally". There is a world of polite or abusive behavior that, in my opinion, should not themselves be the subject of official sanctions. Collectively, they may create a "hostile work environment". Again, I am not an attorney.
Glenn Bailey
02:25:19
From DONE's August Monthly Profile: The Department will be hosting virtual workshop meetings on the proposed Code of Conduct policy onMonday, August 30 at 6:30 pm and Saturday, September 11 at 1 pm. Please join us to provide feedback andinput on the proposed Code of Conduct policy. (Please note the Calendar page indicates a start time of 6:00 p.m.)
Miho, HCNNC
02:26:00
Thanks Tony but for some reason I don't have the three dots on this netbook/zoom. Not sure why. Someone graciously agreed to send it to me.
Tony Wilkinson
02:26:46
By the way, all sorts of stuff gets written and buried in the Monthly Profile. Someone on every board needs to actually READ the stuff and call out issues to colleagues.
Bob Gelfand
02:26:50
Tony: I tend to agree with you that it is possible to have a hostile work environment. I tend to disagree that I am a city employee or even subject to the city’s rules regarding its employees. There are plenty of other rules that already apply to me
Liz Amsden
02:27:17
The Brown Act needs to be updated. There are issues of health and security but also logistics and equity. People who work in Santa Monica but live in Lincoln Heights can't realistically make a 6 pm meeting. In rural areas people may live 45 to 90 miles from their seats of government. And there are costs involved (childcare, gas, parking, etc.) which are of concern to some stakeholders.
Bob Gelfand
02:28:14
Liz: I don’t think the Brown Act was intended to provide perfect equality of access, but rather to prevent secret agreements prior to city council meetings
Tony Wilkinson
02:28:53
If I were the GM, I would always send a spy. :))
Jennifer Goodie
02:30:35
Yes, ethics and transparency are the concern of the Brown Act, it was not created with equity of access in mind
Jennifer Goodie
02:31:53
I'm 20+ days behind on my trainings and wasn't listed as a bad girl
Miho, HCNNC
02:31:57
Also, it's important to note that when considering micro aggression, people need to consider perspectives from different cultures and ethnicities. For example, in my culture, if you look at your boss/teacher in their eyes when they are speaking, it is considered disrespectful and intrusive/aggressive, but I had to learn that in the US if I don't do this it can be interpreted as a sign of disrespect.
Tony Wilkinson
02:31:58
Personally, I would always get a Code of Conduct certificate and send it by email to rosters@empowerla.org.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
02:34:25
The Unions killed C4C!
Miho, HCNNC
02:34:48
I am from Japan but here are other countries that view eye contact as an aggressive behavior
Miho, HCNNC
02:34:52
https://www.thetravel.com/10-places-where-eye-contact-is-not-recommended-10-places-where-the-locals-are-friendly/
Tony Wilkinson
02:35:30
Thank you Miho. That is an excellent example of why I think we will all be better off if things like microaggressions are dealt with on the basis of expecting god faith but not cultural awareness. I think that the philosophy that expects microaggressions and looks actively for them is not helpful to any of us. We can all learn from each other.
Tony Wilkinson
02:35:46
good faith
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
02:36:56
This is a great chat thread... freedom of expression is very important to this forum
Kathleen Edwards, NWNC
02:37:21
When I was doxxed, threatened, and stalked online by a politically motivated group, the City Attorney said that unless they threatened to kill me, there was nothing the city would do.
heather s. michaels
02:37:37
Great dialogue. Thank you to everyone who voiced their concerns.
heather s. michaels
02:38:00
Kathleen, that’s concerning.
Miho, HCNNC
02:38:12
When does the working group meet?
Sherry Brown
02:38:42
What happened to me was more than language
Sherry Brown
02:38:54
I moved away from them, they came towards me
Sherry Brown
02:39:01
over and over again
Sherry Brown
02:39:08
I had to get the police
Tony Wilkinson
02:39:16
We are still looking for YOUR input on how the city may unnecessarily DISempower your ability to operate. Tony Wilkinson, tonyw.civic@gmail.com, 818-212-5384 (mobile) Feel free to drop me a line.
Adriana De La Cruz
02:39:28
Thank you for the share Sherry and for being here today
Sherry Brown
02:39:29
they were asked to leave the park
heather s. michaels
02:39:33
Cindy, good to see you here. So glad you’re back 🙏
Bob Gelfand
02:39:36
Sherry Brown: were these you’re nc people?
Sherry Brown
02:39:39
thanks
Jennifer Goodie
02:39:58
Do you really think DONE would have been better at dealing with that issue than the police if you were afraid of physical harm?
Sherry Brown
02:40:07
They were sent by them-family
heather s. michaels
02:40:27
Sherry, so sorry to hear you had this awful experience.
Sherry Brown
02:40:29
I had never met or spoken to them but they came at me knew me
Sherry Brown
02:40:41
I had to ask who they were
Glenn Bailey
02:40:45
We need the detailed job description of the NEAs
Sherry Brown
02:40:48
And then it all started
Sherry Brown
02:40:51
horrible
Tony Wilkinson
02:40:54
We used to get an email response from Gracie Liu in a day or so. In fairness, I have always received a response from Raquel Beltran.
DavidRockelloRVNC(hey/you)
02:40:55
Please keep coming back to LANCC
Adriana De La Cruz
02:41:03
Meeting Adjourned: 12:36Pm
Sherry Brown
02:41:05
thanks have a good week