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Community Trusts and Cooperatives: What's the Connection? - Shared screen with speaker view
Kermit O
20:19
Kermit O, former teacher turned school abolitionist, working at intersection of land, food, climate; eager to connect CLT to broader vision
Lane Frazee (she/they)
20:45
Hi all, great to be here today! My name is Lane Frazee (she/they), and I’m a Community Partnerships Coordinator at Saul High School. No coop affiliation, just a strong interest in learning more and hopefully getting involved in the coop ecosystem
Deb Cooper (she/they)
21:21
Hi! I'm Deb (she/they), from Cambridge MA. Finding my place in the solidarity economy. Thinking a lot about relationship to land and interested in this topic.
Adriana Abizadeh
21:31
Hi! Adriana Abizadeh, she/her/ella, Kensington Corridor Trust, panelist today! Excited to share this space with all of you!
Rania
22:07
Rania Campbell-Bussiere, she/her, Friends Rehabilitation Program and iCloud 9 Community Farms. Interested in land trusts for housing affordability
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
23:18
Welcome to folks joining the space! As you are coming in, feel free to introduce yourselves in the chat—name, pronouns, location, organizational/co-op affiliation (if any), and what brought you here today!
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
23:58
Drop questions in the chat throughout today, and we’ll be sure to catch ‘em — whether in live-time, during the open Q&A section after the panel, or via follow-up resources.
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
24:40
Kensington Corridor Trust: https://kensingtoncorridortrust.org/
Frank Ortiz
26:34
Frank Ortiz here, he/him/his, Greys Ferry district in Philly, Serenity Soular Founder. I'm here as a Georgist (they focus on public control and benefaction of the commons) interested in hearing today's discussion.
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
29:12
Welcome to folks joining the space! As you are coming in, feel free to introduce yourselves in the chat—name, pronouns, location, organizational/co-op affiliation (if any), and what brought you here today!
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
29:18
Drop questions in the chat throughout today, and we’ll be sure to catch ‘em — whether in live-time, during the open Q&A section after the panel, or via follow-up resources.
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
29:48
That was Adriana Abizadeh, she/her/ella, of Kensington Corridor Trust: https://kensingtoncorridortrust.org/about
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
33:45
!!!!!!
Elizabeth Frantz (she/her), Reinvestment Fund
33:53
Hi all, Elizabeth Frantz, she/her, here in Philly, senior director/loan officer at Reinvestment Fund, a nonprofit lender to co-ops and CLTs, here to learn and support
Gabriel Reyes
42:26
Great point - although your land trust makes housing affordable and ownership possible, the surrounding economic structures aren’t sustainable
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
44:47
WHOA. That really landed for me… Unpacking the language of “trust”…
Adriana Abizadeh
45:54
That’s what we always ask: Who benefits when the neighborhood changes?
Nailah Frye (she/her), PACA
46:04
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Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
46:51
Check out the Life Center Association here - http://www.lca.coop/ - and the language of “member communities” all on the LCA Land Trust
Indy Shome
47:33
https://www.wcrpphila.org/cjlt
Indy Shome
47:34
http://phillyaffordablecommunities.org/
Kermit O
54:26
What I’m hearing in Brad and Diente and Adriana’s stories, as generic as this sounds, is the importance of collectivity. And I’m always struck by how so much important, radical, regenerative work is happening in silos (word of these better ways of living just not getting out)…
Nailah Frye (she/her), PACA
54:42
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Kermit O
57:17
@Adriana: How does KCT interact with NKCDC? Is there a relationship, or does your respective work conflict?
Peter Winslow
58:46
How are board members selected?
Kermit O
59:38
Or maybe the technology just isn’t that good. 🤷🏽
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:00:12
@Peter, is that question for Adriana, or all the panelists in general?
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:03:17
And Kermit - we’ve got your questions for Adriana! We’ll life that one up in open Q&A time, as well as Peter’s question about board member selection
Kermit O
01:06:06
Really, CLTs are closer to how people have lived for much longer than the current model……
Bithiah Coleman
01:06:39
Is this recording going to be shared?
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:06:44
Yes!
Bithiah Coleman
01:06:58
Thank you!
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:07:09
Of course - thanks for being here, Bithiah!
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:07:33
Those are some wild stats, in terms of how many folks are cost burdened
Gabriel Reyes
01:07:55
Yes! ^
Kermit O
01:08:00
Mapping is *critical* work.
Brad Forbes (LCA Cooperative Land Trust, Sankofa House)
01:08:10
PCAC teach in 6pm!
nora lichtash
01:10:49
if you want to learn about the teach-ins or more about Philadelphia Coalition for Affordable Communities my email is nlichtash@wcrpphila.org
Bithiah Coleman
01:12:11
Thanks Norah. I want to do them hear in Denver.
Bithiah Coleman
01:13:22
*here
Kermit O
01:17:12
That’s the inherent fallacy of electoral politics…
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:17:30
Ooh! Curious to hear you say more about that, Kermit O
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:18:52
Redistribution via equitable contribution!
Kermit O
01:18:54
The implicit “trust” placed in political parties by pushing for systemic social change through the electoral process, as if any of these politicians is really about what’s good for their constituencies, as opposed to maintaining their seat and personal bottom lines, and those of their donors…
Kermit O
01:19:51
And people are so busy grinding, just to keep their heads above water, they don’t have room to vision other ways of living and working with each other (like CLTs)
Kermit O
01:20:42
We’re made to believe voting this way or that way will change that reality, and it literally *never* has. I think a ton of people already know this, which is why they don’t bother to vote. 🤷🏽
Kermit O
01:32:06
I mentioned earlier how so much in Philly happens in silos. So I’m particularly focused on coalition-building. After looking at PCAC’s 2021 Land Justice Report, I noticed how many “member” organizations are listed there, but I’m wondering what the actual internal dynamics of those coalitions are. Is it really one or two orgs driving the work and the others are signatories, or is it a fully participatory process with all orgs having equal voice?
Kermit O
01:33:14
(A sort of secondary question is…what do you all see as the main challenges in building/maintaining authentic coalitions?)
Kate
01:41:37
Question to allI’m interested about the relationship between the coop / trust and the city of Philadelphia. Is the city typically supportive, challenging, or disinterested when it comes to community owned organizations?
Indy Shome
01:41:43
In response to the needs of affordable healthy food, generating wealth / resource independence, and land use… are you thinking about collective efforts around connecting those? I know IF Lab has worked on Gather Food Hall, but I wonder if you are having these conversations.E.G. if the trust owned a grocery store, which sourced local healthy food. Other thoughts that come to mind are small-plot-intensive farming, using networks of backyards and roofs to organize growing. This could branch into other things, like a locally-sourced, sustainable necessities brand.Even an online marketplace for local goods. I try to avoid Amazon/Target, but often that is the move I have to make, and I would love a local community trust-owned alternative.
Indy Shome
01:42:44
(I know some of this work is happening all over the city, but I’m curious if there is overlap in the CLT / NLT convos you are having as leaders)
Brad Forbes (LCA Cooperative Land Trust, Sankofa House)
01:43:24
Indy yes that supply chain aspect is definitely a part of our plan at the LCA.. also using time/labor exchange to divest from capital and fuel the labor needs of such a thing
Brad Forbes (LCA Cooperative Land Trust, Sankofa House)
01:43:47
Land being a major component in securing resource the foundation of that ecosystem
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:44:14
@Kermit to those questions about PCAC and the dynamics of the coalition - we can invite PCAC folks to circle back on those! And if you’d like to check out the teach-in tonight, that may be a helpful space too :)
Adriana Abizadeh
01:44:21
@Indy - for clarity the KCT would steward the asset (real estate) but we would need to attract a grocery store operator (and in other spaced other operators like book stores, coffee shops, etc - prioritizing locally owned) into the space. We are actively considering co-op structures to meet some of the neighborhood business needs to be located on the Avenue - like a grocery store.
Brad Forbes (LCA Cooperative Land Trust, Sankofa House)
01:44:42
We wamt to strategically incubate generative, stakeholder-owned operations
Kermit O
01:45:13
@Emily: How do I get the link for that teach-in?
Adriana Abizadeh
01:45:19
adriana@kensingtoncorridortrust.org
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:45:21
I’ll drop it in one sec!
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:45:57
It’s here from 6-8pm today: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2585283067
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:46:04
Nora can share more!
Kermit O
01:46:06
Thanks.
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:46:18
Study Circles 2021 - https://philadelphia.coop/study-circles-2021-cooperatives-and-public-space/
Emily Wyner (she/her), PACA
01:46:21
Check ‘em out!