Ben
03:18
The title plot points are pretty good but 2 and 3 are pretty lame
-αмιуα-
05:33
Hello
Ben
09:25
Wait, he suggested it?
Ben
09:33
i thought she made all of the side
Ben
09:41
slides*
Ben
10:15
zeus
Ben
10:18
Cause he always is
Patrick
10:28
Not always ben
Ben
11:17
Only except for the time his insides were ripped out of him
Patrick
11:49
When did that happen ben
Ben
11:51
ok
Ben
12:04
When the big storm monster tried to overthrow olymus
Ben
12:18
I forgot the name of it
Patrick
12:23
Oh ok
Patrick
12:30
Is that the movie, or an actual myth
Ben
12:32
im pretty sure we have already covered it
Ben
12:38
What movie
Patrick
12:42
Nvm
Ben
15:18
Its a sign of weakness
Ben
15:20
in his mind
Ben
15:25
To renounce a law
Ben
20:45
go to the dead person first, not the person who is probably starving
Patrick
21:09
Sarcasm ben
Ben
22:51
This story got really brutal very fast, I was very surprised the first time I read this
Patrick
22:59
Yeah ben
Jack
23:52
hi
Nathan
23:58
hi
Patrick
24:40
Yeah leah
Patrick
26:26
I’m eating so my camera is off
Ben
26:45
The messenger isn’t very sympathetic lol
Patrick
27:04
He tells the complete truth ben
Patrick
27:09
No details left out
Ben
27:39
eh, he pretty much stomps right in while he’s still grieving over his son and like “oh, and your wife is dead
Patrick
27:54
Yeah I guss
Patrick
28:06
Guess*
Patrick
28:30
Ad libbing luc
Leah K.
31:00
for sure
Patrick
31:11
Yes
Tristan
31:20
yes
Patrick
31:27
Yes
-αмιуα-
31:31
Mhm
Jordan j
31:33
he will
Ben
31:34
according to kreon, he became the god of grief
Ben
31:40
After his death
Ben
32:57
no
Tristan
32:58
no
Patrick
33:00
No
-αмιуα-
33:03
Probably not
Leah K.
33:05
maybe
Ben
33:05
Wife or life
Patrick
33:10
He is dead inside
Jack
33:16
no
Jordan j
33:25
Who knows
Jack
33:59
“i am grief”. means he will live with grief for the rest of his life. thus he can’t live with that grief
Leah K.
34:07
I say no, even if he does live. If that makes any sense
Ben
34:14
Thats contradictory jack
Patrick
34:22
Jack meant without I think
Tristan
34:26
He even said he doesn't want to see another day
Ben
34:29
not being dead doesn’t mean he lives
Patrick
34:33
Oh ok
Patrick
34:44
Yeah ben
Ben
34:59
Although I can imagine him committing suicide some point days, maybe hours from the end of the play
Patrick
35:08
Yeah
Patrick
35:16
Ben
Ben
36:22
I don’t think he would have the strength too
Ben
36:40
and in that case he felt like he sinned and needed punishment
Ben
36:52
maybe
-αмιуα-
36:59
Aren't Kreon and Oedipus brothers?
Ben
37:04
yes
Patrick
37:06
Yes
Ben
37:09
no
Leah K.
37:22
sister
Patrick
37:24
Yesn’t
Leah K.
37:30
Jocasta is his sister
Leah K.
37:39
wasn't it Antigone?
Leah K.
37:49
yeah
Ben
37:53
He meant antigone
Ben
37:59
no
Ben
38:21
The only think he has left is the empty void which is his body
Tristan
38:56
no
Leah K.
39:04
hung herself
Tristan
39:04
she hung herself
Patrick
39:06
Kermit sewer slide
Ben
39:06
Hanged herself
Jack
39:08
hung
Leah K.
39:33
I don't blame her... I would do the same thing, honestly...
Leah K.
39:40
I'd actually say Antigone
Ben
39:47
the best possible ending I could imagine is that he becomes an outcast and faces challenges to redeem himself, eventually rising to a god and becomes the god of grief, who helps mortals whenever they go through great gried
Jack
39:48
hmmm
Ben
39:48
no
-αмιуα-
39:50
Not exactly
Eric
39:53
uhh
Tristan
40:01
I would say nobody won
jordan
40:02
No one won
Ben
40:12
I thought you said live
Ben
40:15
yes she won
Henry
40:21
Idk
jason
40:24
yeah nobody won they almost all of them died
Nathan
40:37
no
Jack
40:41
maybe, i mean, she did die, but she got her point across in the end
Ben
41:30
Death won
Ben
41:32
which is a god
Ben
41:48
But I believe she won aswell
Leah K.
41:59
I would disagree...
Ben
42:06
yes
Patrick
42:27
Wedded in the house of death
Tristan
42:40
no
Ben
42:40
no
Leah K.
42:43
of course not!
Patrick
42:45
Nope
-αмιуα-
42:46
Nah
jordan
42:51
NO
jason
42:56
no
Patrick
43:01
A resounding no
Leah K.
43:03
actually, I'm changing to a maybe...
Nathan
43:09
no
Henry
43:10
no
Patrick
43:15
Probably not
Leah K.
43:20
Say what you might, but I think a maybe is fair
Patrick
43:27
Yeah maybe leah
Ben
43:58
Because kern refused to admit his wrong-doing
Patrick
44:07
Kreon*
Ben
44:18
Blame spellcheck
Patrick
44:26
Yeah oof
Ben
44:53
Yeah but the wording
Ben
45:02
she didn’t DESERVE it
Ben
45:05
But it was inevitable
Leah K.
45:31
exactly
Jack
45:40
not a bad point leah
jordan
47:06
justice shouldn’t be punished but sometimes it is?!
Ben
47:22
the point of the play was that she stood up for what she believed in
Leah K.
47:24
also, I think she HAD to die in the play. I knew it from the beginning. She was ready for death - she wanted it, she anticipated it, she knew it would come, she wasn't afraid to face it. I think the statement is "You do what's right, but sometimes it takes a good man (or woman :-)) to die to get that across to others"
Patrick
47:30
Yes
Leah K.
47:31
agreed?
Patrick
47:34
Big brain leah
Leah K.
47:39
lol
jason
47:59
so a quote?
jason
48:15
oh
Leah K.
48:21
Mr. Travers, did you see my message about the message? lol
Ben
48:25
Kern somewhat
Jack
48:26
proud… makes me think either kern or antigone
Leah K.
48:39
yeah, Creon
Leah K.
48:42
Antigone, too
Tristan
48:50
I agree with Kreon
Leah K.
48:51
Ismene, I would add
Ben
49:44
Bye! Thanks for clas
Tristan
49:46
bye