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Israeli Literature with Rachel - Shared screen with speaker view
Murad Taqqu
40:02
Would you able to send me contact information
Murad Taqqu
42:02
about the French musicians hat performed so beautifully last Tuesady (violin and bass). Thanks,
Varda Farber
42:32
Mezmorizing. Beautiful music and vocals.
Elizabeth
43:21
So beautiful!
Dorothea Dorenz
43:31
haunting and beautiful!! Thanks So much!!
diane allan
43:33
So intimate, totally creative such beautiful music
Suzie Lampert
43:50
Beautiful - and so moving
Denah S Bookstein
44:14
very soulful, perfect and beautifully expressed musically and poetically
Sharon Packer
44:31
Thank you so much Asaf and Shira. Beautiful and very moving!
Yael Gott
50:00
I hear fine
Phyllis Steiner
50:08
I’m hearing everything
Ed Grossman
58:11
Israeli [Ethiopean] rap...listen to the rhymes..
Paul and Mazal Nisner
59:03
I recommend to see the film “live a and become” (תחיה ותהיה)
Frieda Robins
59:34
Very emotional!
Dorothea Dorenz
01:02:05
what is Jagna?
Claudia
01:02:22
please explain the magic in the legs
Varda Farber
01:03:16
Beautiful reading. Thank you.
Sarah Schachter
01:05:02
Very similar to the systemic racism in the US
diane allan
01:05:20
Sara,my thought xacty
Denah S Bookstein
01:05:56
a moving tribute to her Jewish/Ethiopian traditions and culture.
diane allan
01:06:11
Actually I meant our systemic racism
Linda Henry Goodman
01:06:34
Sarah you are correct. But in this case there are also the shockwaves of immigration that this community must navigate, now that there are at least two, and in some cases three generations in Israel.
Gail's iphone4105043416
01:06:57
what is Jagna?
Heather Silverman
01:07:15
It means crazy
Paul Slater
01:07:16
could it mean I will decapitate? אמלק
frona
01:08:02
thrilled to finally join again
Mj Levison
01:08:29
what is jag A?
Elisheva Edelson
01:08:47
Why does she let anyone who wanted to - to define her identity?
Mj Levison
01:08:49
jagna?
diane allan
01:09:33
Don’t many of us do that—define our identity?
Susan Spitz
01:09:40
Elisheva- because when she was younger ( she is still so young) she was not “woke”-now she is more aware. Like many people.
Phyllis Steiner
01:09:58
jag a?
Elisheva Edelson
01:10:14
Thank you Susan
Susan Spitz
01:11:14
my take on it-yw, Elisheva:)
rheadorn
01:11:14
“If I forget thee oh Jerusalem”. If I forget you Ethiopia
Violet
01:11:27
melting pot
Dorothea Dorenz
01:12:08
but you can’t deny the racism of Ashkenizaim
Jackie Ellenson
01:12:34
I agree but there is a strong Jewish textual/experiential pull in this text that shows how Jewish identity, which morphed into Israeli identity, becomes even bigger than the identity of the nation of origin of the immigrants.
Barbara Goldberg
01:12:45
what about the army? the great equalizer?
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
01:13:15
There is a double issue color And “proving her Jewishness”
Mj Levison
01:13:41
is this similar to what happened between ashkenazim and Sefaria when the sefardim came to israel?
rle.family@gmail.com
01:15:36
Orit Tashoma was born in Israel to Ethiopian parents who came to israel in 1984 as part of Operation Moses, one of the first airlifts of Ethiopian jews
Susan Shevitz
01:15:51
Don’t ignore the color. (oops, rachel just said that). They were never “assimilated” into Ethiopia. Lived separately i a mountainous part of the country, often in caves. Had only a few livelihoods that were allowed. So coming to Israel was going from being an outsider to insider (they assumed) to again being outsiders.
Elaine H.
01:15:57
Rabbis?
Karen Lakin
01:17:01
Gaza, I think.Not Egypt
elizabeth caplun
01:20:13
Exactly - second generation immigration, with all the trauma transmitted by parents and confusion of finding one's identity.
Mj Levison
01:26:03
in Hebrew it says you in plural. in English the YOU is capitalized. usually meaning GOD
Heather Rockman
01:26:04
is rav Kanievsky the same who refuses to wear a mask?
Harriet's iPhone
01:33:10
when the price or belonging is hating, the cost is too high
Ed Grossman
01:33:26
"Trees you did not plant"--Deut. 6:11.
Viktoria Dorosz
01:35:26
What does ‘I never woke up at dawn to the garden….” refer to?
Harriet
01:36:27
Reference to poem by poet Rachel
Viktoria Dorosz
01:37:35
Thank you, Harriet
Dorothea Dorenz
01:39:45
very upsetting poem:(
Violet
01:40:00
Wow. makes me so sad.
Ed Grossman
01:40:01
"Reeducation" looking at who is educating whom, and what are their messages (especially of hate for the "other")
stanleykay
01:40:18
Don’t forget, stoning ambulances- live-saving- on Shabbat!
Denah S Bookstein
01:40:19
Rachel, why does he stay within such a group within the observant community.
Ruth's iPad
01:40:54
this session is gut wrenching
stanleykay
01:41:27
Is the last line in some way saying he mocks all that hatred?
Sharon Heim
01:41:32
Why the term “Frank” to refer to Sephardim? I thought it referred to Anne Frank. Frank is not a Sephardi name.
A Ginsburg
01:41:55
When will this be posted online so we can listen to it again?
Ayala Weinberg
01:42:36
great song!!!
Erica Sokoloff
01:42:46
Sharon - it refers to Mizrachim - those from Mid East countries. Many of which were colonized but the French.
Mona Fishbane
01:42:48
This is magnificent!
wendy
01:42:57
so different from Rabbis like Rav Kook and Arieh Levine whose lives were devoted to their love of every single Jew regardless
Denah S Bookstein
01:44:31
The composer singer’s name ?
Ed Grossman
01:44:43
These poems challenge the hypocrisy of those in power--the "right-eous".
Dorothea Dorenz
01:44:49
great singing and great song!!!
Erica Sokoloff
01:44:54
Gorgeous!
Suzie Lampert
01:44:57
Awesome!!! Thanks so much!
Joan Borkow
01:44:58
Nice!
Michal
01:45:12
Beautiful!!!
Elizabeth
01:45:26
Asaf and Shira Lovely-Y off!
Mj Levison
01:46:15
weren’t the Franks like shabetai Zvi messianism?
Asaf Rabi
01:46:22
Yes please. shirakerner@gmail.com
Mj Levison
01:46:31
messianists
Asaf Rabi
01:46:36
rabassaf@gmail.com
diane allan
01:47:04
This is beyond beautiful—reminiscent of Negro Spirituals
Asaf Rabi
01:47:11
Shira Kerner
judyhurvitz
01:47:11
Beautiful intertwining of different styles of music
Mona Fishbane
01:48:02
In the poem, etched is translated as You, as if ‘God’; but it’s plural, you, the group...
Rosemary Linsider
01:48:13
So beautiful! Thank you! Shabbat Shalom!
Phyllis Steiner- Chicago
01:48:33
you’ve already answered my question
Mona Fishbane
01:48:36
etchem is translated as You, singular; it’s plural, the group, not God
muriel wolf
01:48:40
Please send me your emails muriel wolf my email is murieldubrow@gmail.com That should be muriel wolf
rheadorn
01:49:18
Such hatred! In Learn Haredi Nobility
Yael Gott
01:50:33
He's speaking to himself
Harriet's iPhone
01:50:42
perhaps sorrow, not venom
rheadorn
01:51:10
A confessional
stanleykay
01:51:26
Muriel- I’d suggest email Rachel directly! She can’t go thru all these chats and keep track of requests
Sharon Heim
01:52:00
he sounds like he is trying to do teshuva
Diane Tickton Schuster
01:54:34
How does Yosef Ozer answer his own question: What did you teach me to love? How is this challenge responded to by the Ultra Orthodox world?
stanleykay
01:55:12
The “holier than thou” can be problems in many countries, in different ways!
Linda Henry Goodman
01:55:54
Diane Tickton Schuster - An interesting paradox - Teshuvah from a Hozer Bit'shuvah!
stanleykay
01:56:50
Does he still consider himself part of the Haredi community now?
diane allan
02:01:34
If we separate, there will be no chance for Jewish unity!
Yael Gott
02:01:40
Some of the Orthodox serve in the army
Bill Novak
02:02:03
ozer
Lynnie Mirvis
02:02:25
Orthodox is a very diverse term —
Sharon Packer
02:02:43
Rachel, thank you for this challenging class. Shabbat Shalom
Audrey Asher
02:04:07
He could be an observant Jew and not Haredi e.g. modern Orthodox, Masorti.
Violet
02:04:35
Has ultra-orthodoxy changed in the years since he joined?
Sharon Packer
02:05:24
The polarity exists in every religion- extremists in every religion are hateful and dangerous.
Bill Novak
02:06:07
I can understand why he remains ultra-Orthodox, but what about their reaction to him? Is he tolerated? Ignored? Argued with? Hated?
rle.family@gmail.com
02:08:31
People who are not "orthodox" are making a lot of generalizations about orthodoxy . Its not right to criticize orthodox Jews on a universal general basisl Everyone is an individual.
Paul Slater
02:08:48
some Israeli charedi men serve in Israeli intelligence. They are allowed to go to service in civilian clothes, so as not to arouse animosity within the charedi community.
Suzie Lampert
02:09:07
Thanks for a great session, Shabbat Shalom
Heather Silverman
02:09:27
See the TV show “Commandments” that deals with this issue
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
02:10:01
Shabbat Shalom and Shana Tovah to all!
Jon Tepper in Tucson
02:10:06
thanks for another great class. these poems give us all a lot to chew on.
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
02:10:12
Thank you so much Rachel!
Elizabeth
02:11:55
Another incredible and eye opening class. Shabbat Shalom!
Dorothea Dorenz
02:13:13
Name of Ayelet Tzabari’s book???
A Ginsburg
02:13:57
One wonders if his children affected this change in his views.
Sharon Packer
02:16:10
The name of the book is The Art of Leaving: a Memoir
nily sofer
02:16:50
The Art of Leaving: A Memoir: Tsabari, Ayelet ... - Amazon.com
Linda Cedarbaum, New Haven, CT
02:17:44
Great class! And early Shabbat Shalom to all!
Nachama/Chumi Kanner
02:17:49
Many groups in many countries/societies have become more extreme ...fundamentalists...etc
Michal
02:19:36
America jews have difficulty as immigrants to Israel!
iPad (106)Helene Rosenberg
02:19:42
The author is Ayelet Tsabari. Her first book of short stories won a number of awards; The Best Place on Earth. I recommend reading the short stories before reading her memoir!
iPad (106)Helene Rosenberg
02:20:47
The name of her memoir is The Art of Leaving.
Paul Corwin
02:21:27
Interesting...the immigrant experience is very hard...it was hard for my grandparents who came to US in or about 1900...The differnce was that the could NOT go back...Today’s Hungarian or Russian immigrant experience is different. How interesting!
Ed Grossman
02:23:06
Maybe the ultra-orthodox haven't heard the poem, or don't listen to it.
Lynnie Mirvis
02:24:05
this group like all groups is so much more diverse than you can imagine—as a santa with grandchildren in Tsfat —Breslover—I two grandsons in the army —believe me—
Lynnie Mirvis
02:24:20
savta lol
Erica Sokoloff
02:25:03
]Love that it came up as Santa:)
Paul Corwin
02:25:05
I always observed that the experience of the immigrant to America was hard. Their children did better at blending in, speaking the accent, becoming educated, being economically successful. But our immigrant ancestors could not leave and go back...Today, the experiences of different immigrant groups are different, and one big different
Paul Corwin
02:25:31
difference is in the “option” to go back to the Motherland!
Michal
02:25:40
Lynnie, Thank you for your comment. There are so many nuances and differences in the Orthodox societies.
stanleykay
02:26:16
Isrelis not speaking! unexpected! Unless non-Israelis are self conscious re their Hebrew
Dorothea Dorenz
02:26:27
thanks again fro wonderful teaching!
Ed Grossman
02:33:14
Another challenging session; Shabbat shalom!