
48:06
Yes, will a recording be availableble later?

48:09
Thanks!

48:34
Shalom! Todah for including the CA in this important webinar!

49:28
Can you turn off the chines when people join?

49:47
Can you give us all permission to record this?

50:34
David Goldstein is the executive producer and founder of Smash Productions. Since 2006, Smash Productions has been helping clients produce conferences, galas, and special events. From content creation to content delivery, smash productions focuses on every technical aspect of an event and delivers content in the most engaging fashion on the proper platform.Moving to the virtual events world was seamless, as David has been live streaming since before it was “cool”

50:37
Not to jump the gun, but I hope you can address how to feed a live stream into Zoom

50:49
Will this session be about one-way streaming only, or will two-way like Zoom be discussed?

50:55
This is being recorded and will be sent out.

52:04
We're using Zoom so we can have interaction

52:41
Bruce Berkowitz - you just share you screen if you want the stream to show on Zoom.

52:50
RTMP = Real Time Messaging Protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-Time_Messaging_Protocol#:~:text=Real%2DTime%20Messaging%20Protocol%20(RTMP,the%20protocol%20for%20public%20use.)

53:38
How do we leverage our Zoom needs? As individual synagogues, we are too small for them to pay attention to us individually.

55:49
Blackmagic Design Atem Mini or Mini Pro is a good choice for a switcher

55:51
How do you do the separate zoom meeting if people aren't supposed to touch their computer on Shabbat?

55:59
In order to incorporate Zoom into our live stream so that congregants can participate from home, must we always have a TV in the sanctuary (live attendance + live stream + zoom)?

56:07
Zoom can stream to Facebook or Youtube

56:22
This means that people with aliyot would need to go between two different zooms.

56:22
Are you suggesting putting the zoom as an input into the switcher and then the output of the switcher?

56:25
A tablet will work

56:30
Similar question - are these suggestions in keeping with the Heller teshuva?

56:31
USCJ has an agreement with zoom for discounts for our synagogues regardless of size.

56:35
Integrating multiple Zoom feeds - are you talking about using something like OBS (Open Broadcast Studio Software) to consolidate the multiple feeds?

56:54
Good question, Richard.

57:03
To restate: What is the "switcher" you're describing?

57:04
But how do you get that TV to run the real time video feed and not the 1 min delayed broadcast feed, and view that within the sanctuary?

57:11
switcher types config/models.etc

57:29
Can you talk a little bit more about the idea of a switcher for multiple cameras and then being broadcast into Zoom?

57:36
Don’t have a building or will be hiring outside person.

57:45
Budget?

58:26
We are lay-led and way too small to hire a production company. We'll be using Zoom without any external stream joining into zoom.

58:40
does someone have to do it in real time or is it preset?

58:43
Once it is set up is it easy to switch cameras (one click)

59:04
What is the relationship of the switcher to the encoder?

59:05
so this allows people to be shilach zebu from home?

59:28
To clarify, is this webinar entirely about livestreaming technology?

59:37
What is an example of a switcher to buy?

59:47
Perhaps a running chiron with the current page numbers?

59:49
David mentioned Blackmagic

01:00:02
Is the titling done as a separate input source?

01:00:09
There are lots of USCJ congs. in the “Small” and “Very Small” categories which cannot afford to bring in an outside company, even for the HHD.

01:00:15
BlackMagic Design ATEM mini or ATEM Mini Pro

01:00:15
We just installed a livestream camera in the sanctuary. Are you saying that with additional computers in the sanctuary we could have multiple views streamed out together?

01:00:43
Important - they are backordered these days - everyone is looking for them

01:01:02
The ATEM Mini (and Pro) supports 4 HDMI inputs

01:01:05
any suggestions for doing service with no one in the sanctuary, all from our homes?

01:01:07
Is your current screen setup done via OBS or are you using a different platform

01:01:25
If we hire a company, wouldn't they have their own switchers?

01:01:30
It might be helpful to at the end list some of these items (ie switchers, software switchers, etc)

01:01:39
How about some advice for smaller congregations that plan to Zoom with one or two laptops or tablets?

01:01:42
one of the inputs can be used as power point input from a separate PC. This can provide overlays

01:01:43
Have you been able to send Zoom conferences to OBS to then stream out / achieve to Vimeo, Youtube and Facebook at the same time?

01:01:44
If we use a software switcher, how do we connect the multiple cameras to the main computer that the switcher is on?

01:01:51
IF you have less than 100 screens and a low budget, you can do an awful lot with zoom and a good camera hooked up to a laptop.

01:02:02
Are you going to show us examples of how some synagogues are using these tools in shabbat or holiday programming?

01:02:13
can we get this information after the meeting

01:02:20
combine this with chroma keying - green screen

01:02:25
What is a ball-park price to hire a production person?

01:02:38
what about not accessing electricity during High Holidays or Shabbat?

01:02:57
We're being quoted about $25K for three day production with multiple items

01:02:59
Is your default working assumption that someone is in the synagogue? How many (raise of hands?) are planning to have nobody actually in the shul and everyone remote?

01:03:03
Karl - depending on what you want and where you are in the country 5K

01:03:08
Are you familiar with the Live Control service which provides remote directing of services?

01:03:17
That is for HH

01:03:32
will this work if noone is allowed into the synagogue and rabbi and cantor (and participants) are in different locations?

01:03:55
Yes, you can stream Zoom via OBS. You set up a window source for the Zoom meeting, plus an audio source from your machine or external microphone.

01:03:56
Blackmagic Atem Mini and Mini pro in stock at B&H Photo

01:04:06
How do you manage congregational singing (if at all) since the Zooms I have experienced with smaller size <30 congregants is pretty much a “balagan”.

01:04:18
Right now we think our Cantor may be in the sanctuary, everyone else remote

01:04:43
Arlene Bryer- that is insane! (I'm in the wrong business apparently...)

01:04:44
@Reuben - we have our gabbai mute participants outside of the Amidah and the kaddishes,.

01:05:01
I imagine that many of us will have the clergy and perhaps just a few others in the sanctuary - assuming for now that most of the congregation is going to be home.

01:06:08
Playing a video of the choir singing - or recording different kids leading verses of a piyut, so that more people can be involved - will obviously look pre-recorded, but will be heartening

01:06:23
how do you create a live Switched production?

01:06:35
That sounds similar to TouchCast

01:06:44
What makes you think it’s going to be boring?

01:06:45
how about fixed camera Rabbi May not like the idea of someone electronically

01:06:45
Our congregation decided not to do a choir

01:06:50
how do you do the Popout streams?

01:07:07
How do you add the pop up video like you mentioned at adas?

01:07:30
When you say pop up, is that similar to an overlay?

01:07:35
can you mention the discount program from USCJ for Streamspot?

01:07:37
software switch will be able to do this or specific hardware>

01:08:05
Pop-Ups seem like a very confusing add-on to the stream.

01:08:18
If you livestream from the sanctuary onto YouTube/FAcebook,, not via zoom, can you say again how you incorporate people speaking/singing/reading Torah from their homes?

01:08:20
What is the maximum video resolution quality Zoom allows? 1080p?

01:08:22
Can you have multiple Zoom accounts on the same computer so you can switch between Zoom windows?

01:08:24
You're talking about a lot of interaction with tech on a Yontif

01:08:34
Seems like a lot of these ideas require a lot of individual usage of the computer.

01:08:46
We have a PTZ camera and a robust laptop. What else do we need for livestreaming?

01:08:47
The RA is pretty strict about minimal usage.

01:08:58
Contact your Synagogue Consultant for StreamSpot discounts

01:09:01
Hard Wired = No Wireless Devices!

01:09:07
We even had issues on Shavuot because we needed a meeting longer than 24 hours.

01:09:12
We want to stick to the letter of the teshuvah as much as possible, so how much of this can you automate (turning cameras on automatically, etc.) so we need as little human intervention on Shabbat and yom tov?

01:09:44
PTZ Camera plus good laptop are enough for streaming - we’re doing it now.

01:10:11
I have a high end SLR Canon camera with software to connect to computer. Haven’t actually used it yet. Your opinion as to this option in conjunction with live-streaming with a livestream service? Thanks.

01:10:17
Important about bandwidth - focus on *uplink* 5Mbps is minimum for 720p (Facebook) - for 1080p (YouTube) - you need about 10Mbps

01:10:38
Yes we want to stick to the letter of the teshuvah. So our Rabbi said no zoom.

01:10:41
I would think the SLR would be a great option. Far better than most other cameras.

01:10:44
How would we have a bonded connection from a residence?

01:10:53
what is the preferred method of providing audio for a live service?

01:11:03
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01:11:15
Canon just issued new drivers to use DSLR as webcams - no audio but video is good.

01:11:31
Some questions have come up about halachic implications. I’m watching to see the technical suggestions being made, and happy to have a follow-up session on halachic implications.

01:11:40
Note that StreamSpot is way behind on providing equipment.

01:11:40
is anyone planning in synagogue services

01:12:00
will production companies be able to max the bandwidth

01:12:00
We might have the Rabbi and Cantor in the shul only.

01:12:18
StreamSpot told us we would have to find outside solution for multiple cameras, switcher etc that they don't provide.

01:12:21
you will need to get the Rabbi’s on board with this!!

01:12:45
does this only work if everyone is in the sanctuary? we are not permitted in building at all. we are planning to have rabbi and cantor at different locations. we have been zooming Shabbat services.

01:12:52
Why would you need a bonded cellular unit if you're using Ethernet?

01:12:54
production company will tell you minimum speed/bond you will need from provider

01:12:56
Your opinion on best practice for audio- for voice and instruments

01:13:11
Guitars sound wonky on Zoom- any thoughts?

01:13:25
Shai Weis- you would need bonded cellular because even if you have ethernet, if the connection from your building to the world is down, ethernet won’t help

01:13:46
Re: Halachic considerations - Here's the RA's response to Covid and streaming practices: https://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/story/high-holiday-guidance-communities-affected-covid-19

01:13:55
StreamSpot encoders back ordered but they will provide their encoder software for PCs as part of COVID-19 DIY solution.

01:14:03
Not using the soul’s system, rather using our own mics, and stuff

01:14:30
Audio on Zoom - There's a Facebook group "Zoom for Musicians" that covers how to optimize audio for that platform.

01:14:45
Thank you Stephen Saxon!

01:14:46
Does zoom take in a stereo input?

01:14:49
Does that eliminate the latency issue?

01:14:54
If I have an audio interface?

01:15:04
How best to secure stream to members and ticketholders only?

01:15:37
Thank you Shai. Even if the $3K video cameras were available now, I wouldn’t spend that kind of money on it. I think those of us with small congregations and small budgets should be careful not to panic by this (very informative) presentation. We will use what we have to make the best possible experience for everyone in terms of content and try our best to make the video and audio attractive.

01:15:52
output from Blackmagic Atem is seen by computer as a webcam

01:15:54
Zoom is generally limited to monophonic sound. "Zoom for Musicians" has some hacks for stereo. Shared Screen mode streams in stereo.

01:16:09
What is zoom for musicians?

01:16:10
Im curious how many Rabbis permit offsite aliyot during the Torah readings?

01:16:47
We do not. We just use לעסוק בדברי תורה

01:16:53
our congregants are planning for at least some in person component of the service. As soon as we’re talking about online video production, why wouldn’t people just watch central synagogue or park avenue synagogue, which will obviously have the best looking and sounding service?

01:17:10
People do want to see their own rabbi/congregants.

01:17:15
Ditto

01:17:22
will the production company be doing this in real time, ie a shabbas got, or can this all be set up beforehand? the Ra reference is not about production companies

01:17:44
which is why I want to learn more about best ways to integrate multiple zoom participants into our streamed service

01:18:16
You can do Zoom registration ...

01:18:30
Couldn't you put the stream embed on a password protected page on your shul website, such as in the area used for personal account info, etc.?

01:18:33
If services are streamed on Zoom via 2 laptops, one focused on the Rabbi and the upper bema, and the other focused on the Cantor and Torah readings at a lower bema, If everyone is muted except the two "hosts", wouldn't the speakers view feature of zoom automatically switch the focus to the view whichever one is producing audio?

01:18:46
Israel Gordon - we stream a Zoom meeting with 2-3 participants. Took some work to get the audio right, but it works. Streaming is via StreamSpot

01:19:10
Simply managing identity and access management for a medium to large congregation (let alone informing them of the login procedures) is a huge uplift (a lot of work).

01:19:20
David Proser- yes, but need to watch out for cross-contamination of sound feedback between the two laptops

01:19:41
Do you need a website for this?

01:21:28
does the professional provide the website?

01:22:53
what kind of switcher do you need to do this? bring in multiple Zoom contributors

01:22:54
r this people in synagogue for honors

01:23:02
Synagogues across the country will be doing this...what provisions do we or the professional companies need to think thru, in order to be ready for the possibility of anti-semitic attempt to disrupt services?

01:23:53
David Proser- I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate multiple zooms as well. The spotlight video feature would help with that.

01:23:59
ask for a production manager to work with the ritual committee to create a script and working production sheet

01:24:07
Weaponized youtube copyright takedowns are something i’m looking out for.

01:24:10
If I have an audio interface with more than two audio channels, is there a video recording software for Mac which can take multiple audio inputs?

01:24:13
Do you have names of production companies?

01:24:34
what software or HW do you use to bring people in?

01:24:54
What is the best software/hardware for a virtual choir production?

01:24:56
How do you feed the multiple zoom rooms into the production switcher?

01:25:11
Yes

01:25:27
Pre-recorded choirs or Torah readings can easily be dropped into the livestream

01:26:03
It would be helpful to have a demo / instructional session on some of these specific topics. 1) Multiple Zoom room integration; 2) Optimizing audio with multiple sources; 3) Optimizing switching from multiple sources; etc...

01:26:04
Does original audio use much more bandwidth?

01:26:05
If you're in a zoom room, you don't get to hear everything else going on.

01:26:12
Will you send the chat after the meeting as well? We can learn a lot from the questions.

01:26:25
Use an external microphone with Zoom if you can at all. For those who are hard of hearing it makes an IMMENSE difference.

01:26:25
Could you use 3 laptops each with external cameras in the sanctuary and use one as the host to pin and switch from one viewer to another?

01:26:28
Do you need to be host to use original audio? Or, where do you find the original audio control?

01:26:34
JLicense must be acquired by EVERY congregation! Reasonably priced and the right way to do it.

01:26:42
The other thing is that someone could file a fake copyright claim to take down your stream on youtube.

01:27:07
Not sure how to protect against it.

01:27:11
You can broadcast music that is copyrighted as long as you obtain the right kind of license.

01:27:18
Copyright = Anything published after 1928 would be under copyright, by default. Even older works (J.S. Bach, for example) have been flagged and blocked as "copyrighted material" by streaming services.

01:27:22
can you set up a livestream to go for more than 24 hours? Ex. Rosh Hashana is two days...how does this work?

01:27:23
can you discuss syncing the video and audio sends so there's no delay?

01:27:56
@Sari, you can. The problem is Zoom. They only allow a 24 hour meeting.

01:28:22
Can people log on to Zoom before the holidays begin?

01:28:43
What is a JLicense? What does it cover and what is its purpose?

01:28:43
@Judy - yes. We do this, but once the meeting starts, they can only be in a waiting room for 30 minutes.

01:28:52
thanks. yes, I know Zoom only stays open for 24 hours

01:28:54
This means that you can't put everyone in a waiting room in between services.

01:29:22
Facebook Live is an 8-12 hour time limit.

01:29:33
Youtube can be as long as you want, but stops recording after 12 hours.

01:29:41
Streamspot has unlimited streaming

01:29:56
Streamspot can do it, but it will eat a lot of storage on your subscription

01:29:57
Though streamspot may stop recording at some point.

01:30:00
https://jlicense.com/ All very clear and important to do.

01:30:00
Can you talk about video production planning ?

01:30:17
Do you need a paid service like Streamspot to feed into Facebook Live or YouTube Live?

01:30:23
Stramspot will not archive more than about 4 hours

01:30:43
Streamspot is working on fixing that.

01:31:11
You can feed directly into FB live or youtube live without a paid service. (zoom will do either)

01:31:12
What was that called?

01:31:30
Imstillgraduating can be used as a platform for non-graduating purposes?

01:31:34
StreamSpot says that they break out the streaming into appx 4Gb chunks - but haven’t tested yet.

01:31:46
https://www.imstillgraduating.com/to-the-class-of-2020/

01:33:54
Sorry, came in late. Presumably you need a video capture card to grab HDMI input from a production switcher?

01:34:16
What assumptions are you making about using all this on Shabbat or holidays that normally would not allow the use of electronics. Does this all fit under the guidance published by Rabbi Heller

01:35:07
It would be wonderful to redo this entire presentation specifically for small congs. which cannot afford to hire outside help.

01:35:28
Steven- some yes, some no.

01:36:04
Yes, please. Geared to smaller congregation

01:36:05
can we get a copy of this meeting. I was not able to get in timely

01:36:06
Did he create this #imstillgraduating and may it be used for other custom uses? How?

01:36:06
A lot depends on how much you are willing to have a non-Jewish person do on your behalf on shabbat.

01:36:41
Yes, plz, for smaller congregations!

01:36:57
How about lighting?How about backgrounds?How about handing group mute?

01:37:07
Linda, can you do a "raise your hands" poll to see how many here 1) Have already hired a production specialist; 2) Plan to hire a production specialist; 3) Considering hiring a production specialist; 4) Might have someone who can manage this; 5) Absolutely can't hire anyone to do this and don't have anyone in the congregation who's qualified to do it.

01:37:15
1) Have already hired a production specialist; 2) Plan to hire a production specialist; 3) Considering hiring a production specialist; 4) Might have someone who can manage this; 5) Absolutely can't hire anyone to do this and don't have anyone in the congregation who's qualified to do it.

01:37:17
if Rabbi and Cantor want to be in separate rooms what is best way for them to communicate with each other?

01:37:26
another big question is: are there enough production companies for places that are looking (considering the HHDs are the same dates for everyone!)

01:38:05
you have to remember some production companies have hundreds of employees. Your production may only take 1 or 2

01:38:09
Israel Gordan: Assume the answer is No... :-)

01:38:12
For those wanting to include higher quality music options, these Jewish musicians are working to create usable files for synagogues: ArielWyner.com and BenRob Music. They are trying to make this affordable for all.

01:38:16
can you give us the presenter contact info?

01:38:20
Even medium sized shuls can’t afford production companies.

01:38:24
There are literally 10,000s of production people out of work right now.

01:38:27
Also helpful have a session geared towards congregations not willing to staff the streaming due to halactic issues

01:38:30
Please.

01:38:47
Thank you. How do we reach you? You will be inundated!!

01:38:55
How do we contact you?

01:40:21
So put in the chat which option you are considering1) Have already hired a production specialist; 2) Plan to hire a production specialist; 3) Considering hiring a production specialist; 4) Might have someone who can manage this; 5) Absolutely can't hire anyone to do this and don't have anyone in the congregation who's qualified to do it.

01:40:23
Do you have a "FAQ" or "How to" on your companies website?

01:40:28
Cost of production companies?

01:40:54
3 or 4

01:41:02
3 or 4

01:41:04
4 or 5

01:41:05
option 5

01:41:06
3 and 4

01:41:10
Graduation site can be customized?

01:41:12
thank you, very helpful to see bullet points as we share this video

01:41:14
4

01:41:14
After this, for sure #2.

01:41:19
3

01:41:22
Tooting my synagogue's horn- we've done some unique interactive Kabbalat Shabbat services on Zoom/FB. Check out facebook.com/ShirChadash

01:41:26
4

01:41:30
5

01:41:33
can we get a copy of the chats on this webinar

01:41:35
5

01:41:41
is it pre-set or with a live person?

01:41:42
3 or 4

01:41:45
3 or 4

01:41:46
3

01:41:49
2

01:41:50
Is this an opportunity for you to train more unemployed Jewish production folks? We need them!

01:41:51
1

01:41:53
4

01:41:54
3? 4? 5?

01:41:55
3-4

01:41:55
4

01:41:56
This is being recorded & will be sent out

01:41:58
2 and have been interviewing companies this week

01:41:59
4

01:41:59
Restate your company name?

01:42:00
Thank you so much David

01:42:02
4

01:42:09
4

01:42:13
3 or 5

01:42:14
4/5

01:42:16
4

01:42:19
1

01:42:24
4

01:42:24
4

01:42:27
1

01:42:29
David - how proficient are you at OBS?

01:42:35
2 or 3

01:42:36
OBS is rather confusing for a first time user. Do you have resources on flattening that learning curve?

01:42:49
4-5

01:42:59
should I go NDI or hdmi with my cameras

01:43:11
Some of us are not seeing the Poll so that we might participate.

01:43:13
3

01:43:21
4/5

01:43:24
2

01:43:51
5

01:43:55
ANY wireless connections will add latency (delay) and instability.

01:43:56
What about SDI vs HDMI?

01:43:58
Does choosing the original audio option on zoom address the latency issue?

01:44:02
3 to 4

01:44:06
Ethernet connected camera with POE injector allows long run of cable.

01:44:12
David, what is your contact information?

01:44:20
To use cellular bonding, do you need accounts on multiple ISPs?

01:44:21
Ellen Arad - No, it doesn't.

01:44:30
HDMI can only be sent up to 50ft - but may not be reliable to all switchers

01:44:37
So put in the chat which option you are considering1) Have already hired a production specialist; 2) Plan to hire a production specialist; 3) Considering hiring a production specialist; 4) Might have someone who can manage this; 5) Absolutely can't hire anyone to do this and don't have anyone in the congregation who's qualified to do it.

01:44:42
So put in the chat which option you are considering1) Have already hired a production specialist; 2) Plan to hire a production specialist; 3) Considering hiring a production specialist; 4) Might have someone who can manage this; 5) Absolutely can't hire anyone to do this and don't have anyone in the congregation who's qualified to do it.

01:44:45
1

01:44:52
4

01:44:55
use SDI for the “long haul” - and convert to HDMI by the switcher

01:45:03
2/4

01:45:05
2

01:45:07
4/5

01:45:08
4-5

01:45:10
4

01:45:29
4 or 5

01:45:36
We do it ourselves: PTZ camera + OBS + Boxcast.com for streaming outward to our website & Facebook

01:45:50
If the Cantor is livestreaming from the sanctuary, is there a way to get the voices of a few congregants who are not in the room onto the stream, so people hear back-and-forth with the cantor?

01:46:08
David's company name again?

01:46:22
smash productions

01:46:27
I'll be sending that info

01:46:42
can we get a copy of the chats from this webinar

01:46:43
Thank You...drinking from the fire hose!

01:46:46
https://www.smashproductions.com/

01:46:51
or pre-recorded and pre-mixed

01:47:10
OBS as Zoom virtual cam?

01:47:13
Seth, are you happy with Boxcast?

01:47:14
david@smashproductions.com

01:47:23
thanks so much!

01:47:26
Thank you!

01:47:28
Thank you very much- this has been helpful.

01:47:34
You can get a small chorus to sing together but it will be difficult and require them to stream separately and then feed that into a stream separately. Very Very advanced stuff.

01:47:46
thank you!!!

01:47:56
Very helpful, thank you!

01:48:03
Yashar koach. Thank you.

01:48:03
Thank you very much!

01:48:03
Thank you!

01:48:07
Thanks David and Linda for putting this together!

01:48:08
Thanks very much

01:48:11
todah rabah

01:48:12
thank you

01:48:16
Thanks

01:48:16
Thank you for an outstanding presentation. Would love to have the recording

01:48:21
Superb - this recording needs to be sent to the entire USCJ/RA/CA list, together with the chat info. You taught us a great deal in a short time.

01:48:21
Thank you, David for a very informative presentation! Thank you Linda for organizing this.

01:48:23
Thank you

01:48:23
Thanks. Very useful information.

01:48:38
Thank You!

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01:48:47
Will this session be available

01:48:48
Thanks so much!

01:48:52
Thank you!

01:48:54
Thanks

01:48:55
Thank you DAvid

01:48:56
Linda what was that url?

01:48:57
Thank You!

01:48:59
thank you very much

01:49:00
Thank you

01:49:01
Thank you david

01:49:02
thank you

01:49:06
thankyou

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