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David Rockello(hey/you)LosAngeles
20:06
Hello everyone!!!
Jamie York
20:35
Hi on my phone so can’t rename
Liz Amsden
25:07
What do you think the Neighborhood Councils do well? What do you think you would like to see changed?
Jamie York
26:30
Its just not letting me use my rename function on the phone for some reason
Jamie York
26:38
Sorry that I was unclear
Lydia Grant STNC Primary
27:08
we see your name on the screen
Jamie York
27:19
Yes I just can’t add reseda
Glenn Bailey
29:00
DONE General Manager Raquel Beltran is in attendance. Thanks and welcome
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
29:37
What does the Word intensity mean ? Who created it.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
29:41
LOL
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
30:06
It came from the Department
Jamie York - Reseda NC
30:14
Link to the settlement agreement right here
Jamie York - Reseda NC
30:17
https://ia601508.us.archive.org/25/items/los-angeles-neighborhood-council-assignments-february-2021/Signed%20Writ%20Release%20-%2021STCP02993%20-%20DONE.pdf
Jamie York - Reseda NC
31:14
Link to the data
Jamie York - Reseda NC
31:16
https://ia601508.us.archive.org/25/items/los-angeles-neighborhood-council-assignments-february-2021/NC%20Assignments%20-%20February%202021.xlsx
Brad Kane - PICO NC
32:49
Will Ms. Beltran promise to get informed and return next month with answers?
carol hutchinson
33:00
Certain groups are saying the intensity scale means the higher the score, the more "Christofascist" the NC is-why?
Jamie York - Reseda NC
33:58
Cpra law doesn’t award damages but it does award attorney fees when one wins a case
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
34:05
The $15k wouldn't have had to have been paid if DONE had just complied with the records request in the first place
Lisa Kaye Pico NC
34:21
Who conducted the survey? Why was it conducted?
Jamie York - Reseda NC
42:07
This data is from February 2021
Lisa Kaye Pico NC
42:28
This sounds a bit like DONE looking for job justification? Does not seem like a very transparent process of NC conclusion. Would like Ms Beltran to justify purpose of this convoluted exercise? How was this conducted and who conducted this survey?
Bob Gelfand
43:13
Rather than speculating as to what “intensity" means, how about just asking?
carol hutchinson
43:21
How does DONE decide what is problemactic?
Doug Epperhart
43:24
My comment that was previous DONE management discussed a rating system and DID NOT think it was a good idea.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
44:26
Our neighborhood council really got running with cis filing post Feb 2021 so I don’t think it’s a data point about cis filing.
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
44:29
I would definitely like to know what the Intensity rating means and what considerations went into determining the Intensity.
Bob Gelfand
45:08
All of this speculation is just taking up time
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
45:33
Also, how it possible that some NC's have a rating above 100%?
Lisa Kaye Pico NC
45:56
Can we have Ms Beltran address this please?
Lauren Echo Park (she /they)
47:06
Thanks, Doug, for clarifying. And Carol I would suggest that there are many ways in which an NC could be problematic: like fiscal mismanagement, racist or sexist behavior on the part of Board members, failure to produce minutes, etc. Personally, I'd like to see examples of NCs that are exemplary in their Board management and service.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
47:23
I have a possible amendment for the motion after raquel soeaks
Nina Royal
48:39
This appears to me to be another way to divide NC’s against each other and not meant to help them in any way. How is this helping them in an6 way!!
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
49:14
How many other records requests are being mismanaged by the department, opening the City up to further suits? I find it very problematic that the Department refused to release this and then when asked about it directly the response was I don't know until pressed
carol hutchinson
49:38
Our NEA just shows up to the meeting-can't understand how that makes our NC "intense"
Lisa Kaye Pico NC
51:34
Maybe instead of intense they use fierce! This is ridiculous exercise and not how you justify additional staff resources or evaluative process of your staff.
Sharon Brewer
51:44
Please state the complete motion. Also what document are people talking about? Sorry, but I came late.
Glenn Bailey
52:13
Can we ask DONE to advise as to the dates of the Commission meeting(s) during which this Intensity rating was discussed? Thanks.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
52:13
Sharon: https://ia601508.us.archive.org/25/items/los-angeles-neighborhood-council-assignments-february-2021/NC%20Assignments%20-%20February%202021.xlsx
Jamie York - Reseda NC
52:20
It makes literally no sense that this is about personnel
Jamie York - Reseda NC
52:33
It’s a rating of our neighborhood councils. We are not personnel
Glenn Bailey
54:05
Once we have the date(s) of the BONC meetings during which this Intensity Rating was discussed, we can listen to the meeting recordings....
Nina Royal
54:51
She did not speak to the issue and she didn’t’t make any sense. She was very evasive and for forthcoming with a valid reason.
Nina Royal
55:26
That should be NOT forthcoming.
Raquel Beltran
55:57
recommend sending inquiries about CPRA process be sent to the City Attorney's office. they review our documents before responding
Lydia Grant STNC Primary
56:35
I would like the PRA issue separated, so the issues are addressed.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
57:15
I'll second Glenn's ammendment
Bob Gelfand
58:59
Is the chat now a lawful way of introducing motions and amendments?
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
59:11
My understanding is Glenn wants receipts
Glenn Bailey
59:48
…...and that LANCC request the date(s) that this topic was discussed during previous BONC meetings.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:01:14
I support the request for receipts
Bob Gelfand
01:01:39
Let
Bob Gelfand
01:02:31
s Let's consider the PRA issue in the committee for constructive change, and we can also make a separate motion
Sharon Brewer
01:03:18
report item requested when discussed and/or agendized at any BONC meetings.
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
01:09:04
Make the motion. Thanks.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:12:14
I have filed a handful and they are frequently pushed back multiple times Even when I’m just asking for one-two documents
Lydia Grant STNC Primary
01:12:17
Motion to ask BONC to address the issues with the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment failing to follow State law in regards to PRA Requests.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
01:14:44
Par for the course with BONC
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
01:16:24
should WE ASK FOR THE STUDY REPORT BY A CERTAIL DATE?
vic christensen (nwspnc)
01:17:04
yes, always need to specify a deadline for a request
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
01:17:23
45 days?
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:18:21
I agree with doug
vic christensen (nwspnc)
01:28:58
fire grazers
vic christensen (nwspnc)
01:30:56
fire grazers http://goatsrock.com/index.html
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
01:32:53
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eFhsmXp5APPowBBAqmeQv7K83SvqXGoPIxj1mxsGVnM/edit?usp=sharing
David Uebersax - Winnetka NC President, LANCC Vice Chair
01:41:11
I would hope their job is not to buffer
Tony Wilkinson
01:42:22
The department under the previous problematic General Manager was a key part of the problems we are still experiencing. In relation to DONE doing anything useful, I'd rather hope that they address their own challenges in providing basis services TO US before they start going after other departments (which is a problemat9ic ask) on our behalf.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:43:06
It’s both an ordinance and council policy
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:44:45
I just shot you an email
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:44:50
But I’ll send an attachment
Tony Wilkinson
01:44:57
If we vote for this motion at LANCC, the letter becomes our motion. Terrence could send it out as a press release noting that it was adopted as recommended language for individual NCs to consider.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:45:57
There’s three council files that this letter addresses
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:46:16
So the motion would be to adopt this letter for those three council file with the positions listed
Tony Wilkinson
01:46:36
I agree with Sid. I think the motion should be to refer the letter to NCs for their own action, expressing LANCC's vote supporting the concerns. I though that was the intended effect of the motion.
Tony Wilkinson
01:46:52
I thiought
Dave Brown
01:47:02
Tony, yes
Lauren Echo Park (she /they)
01:47:19
A copy of this letter / motion broadly to the press, is important. I can assist with this if needed. Let's make some noise!
Sharon Brewer
01:47:54
Can a motion to discuss the limited public comment allowed by Animal Services Commission suddenly being imposed--(1) general public and up to (3) minutes are agenda items including "Oral Reports". Larry Gross states the limited time for public comment is the same as City Council allows. Public comment is limited when the" body" does not want to hear from he public especially if public comment is being made talking about problems with the "body" example Animal Services Commission meetings.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:47:56
Glenn is correct. They didn’t express any of the concerns noted in the letter re the budget process
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
01:51:38
Sharon is right re public comment. I've got a huge bee in my bonnet regarding our voices being silenced.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:52:06
There’s so many issues with contracts and contract fulfillment throughout department
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
01:52:13
We will address this next month.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
01:52:34
And yes I also agree with sharon
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
01:52:58
This is my favorite LANCC meeting in forever
Tony Wilkinson
01:53:09
Sharon, I think that NCs need to focus less on their minutes of public speaking in front of the mic and instead focus on getting opinions incorporated into the public record IN WRITING. For example. making individual public comment on Council Fines, which has the same permanent record effect as a CIS, although it is just "from the public" and does not show your name on the file. If a committee has a method for contacting commissioners through email, we should be using that. I am concerned that too many people prioritize being seen in public over truly influencing decisions. STAFF is also as important as appearances at committee of commission meetings.
Tony Wilkinson
01:53:32
Council Files
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
01:54:42
I spent 5.5 hours yesterday going to City Hall and sitting in chambers waiting for my 1 minute to speak and was denied. When I called it out Nury refused me my minute. I spent 5.5 hours, would giving me 1 minute have killed her?
Lauren Echo Park (she /they)
01:55:04
You could higher upteen staffers, with full benefits, for less!
Lauren Echo Park (she /they)
01:56:38
Nury is too thin skinned to be in politics, let alone heading a City Council sinking into the quicksand of rampant corruption every.where.we. turn!
Tony Wilkinson
01:57:59
That is NOT what we discussed in chat. WE are not the acting party, accept for the support of the letter and recommendation that NCs consider a motion on the same. For that reason I will be voting no.
Tony Wilkinson
01:58:27
except for the
vic christensen (nwspnc)
02:00:41
where is this data available?
Glenn Bailey
02:02:30
This is an update as the LANCC survey is still open for NC Board members who haven't yet responded
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
02:02:53
@Tony Wilkinson — DONE should get back to connecting City Departments with NCs and I’ll add Councilmembers too. This has been disconnected in recent years. Pandemic only enhanced the disconnect. NCs are to improve the quality of life in their neighborhoods. LADBS excuse is no staff. DOT no $$ but $$ are spent on other areas, intersections. Examples.
Sharon Brewer
02:03:06
Maybe we need to let Koretz's committee know about Animal Services looking at giving away (2) of the (7) Animal Shelters that the City is looking to find more money to fund?
Pastor R Mammon
02:04:55
Even us novices can see the waste and collusion with developers
Pastor R Mammon
02:05:33
It is time for LANCC to ask the FBI for a full investigation of the City CouncilIt is time for LANCC to ask the FBI for a full investigation of the City Council
carol hutchinson
02:05:51
If you are unhappy with DONE you are a "malcontent"?
vic christensen (nwspnc)
02:05:51
where can we get these data and results?
Karen Perdue
02:06:02
DONE clearly elevates ones freedom of speech over another’s.
Tony Wilkinson
02:07:10
There is a text question at the end that allows you to write in comments, so you are not limited only to the multiple choice questions.
Sidney Gold
02:07:15
all outsourced contacts greater than $50,000 approved by a council or department should have a reason why the work could not be done in house.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:08:08
Shawna (from the City Clerk, not DONE) is fantastic!
Pastor R Mammon
02:09:47
Shawna: Are you quoting?
Tony Wilkinson
02:09:58
While BONC doe NOT manage DONE (rather it manages NCs), BONC does have authority to approve DINE contracts of $25,000 or more. A smart and active BONC could use that power of the purse string to ask (as Sid suggests) why the work cannot be done in-house. A classic case is all of the contractor election "outreach" money that was wasted in the last election.
Tony Wilkinson
02:10:15
does NOT manage DONE
Pastor R Mammon
02:12:12
Why they are not done inhouse? Because DONE staff is incompetint
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:12:45
We're 2 months into this fiscal year LOL
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:13:38
that attempt to deflect on DONE's part is so transparent it's laughable
Tony Wilkinson
02:14:00
I do give Thomas Soong credit for one of the few HONEST AND TRANSPARENT admissions that the department and commission portal was DONE's responsibility (not the Clerk's) and that DONE would work to fix the issues. Let's give DONE credit for being hones (and to Jamie for bringing up the issue).
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:14:50
Tony, they only sent something out because I got tired of begging them to and did it on my own and the statement Tom sent out was full of mistruths
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:14:54
It was major commissions. City planning. Police. Ethics. transportation. South valley area planning.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:15:00
Rec and parks
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:15:23
And those were only the ones I could independently confirm through my own labor
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
02:15:27
@Jamie — and this is why we have people attack us, drag on our energy when the CISs don’t get where they should.
Sharon Brewer
02:15:27
Can DONE survey be e-mailed to those people attending this meeting? Also is the DONE survey still open?
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:15:39
And if anyone wants the email thread between me, Jamie, and Tom, I'll forward it
Tony Wilkinson
02:15:57
Sorry, JENNIFER for bringing up the issue. :))
Nina Royal
02:16:10
I strongly agree with Lydia regarding CIS’s
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:16:18
It was actually the ethics dept who helped us learn that our statements went no where. So shout out to ethics.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:16:45
No, Jamie is the one that found the issue. I'm just the big mouth that got fed up about the response (or lack there of)
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
02:16:59
Survey link: https://forms.gle/qusbQWqg9gdUF1rE7
Tony Wilkinson
02:17:39
Thanks to both of you (Jamie and Jennifer) and to Ethics Department. STAFF in Ethics is a good example of the power I think we can have of we use staff more than perhaps we do today.
Tony Wilkinson
02:17:50
if we use
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:17:53
The issue was also brought up at BONC and characterized as a "glitch" by DONE
Bob Gelfand
02:18:36
How about a request to BONC for a complete report on the so called glitch
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:18:51
I have sent BONC 5 emails requesting
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:19:09
I have requested a full root cause analysis
Karen Perdue
02:19:10
Yes, what Bob said ^^
Nina Royal
02:19:18
A “glitch”? More like a travesty!!!
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:19:31
I can forward the emails I sent to BONC to anyone that wants them too
Valerie Contreras WNC
02:19:37
Valerie Contreras, Wilmington Neighborhood Council, Chair - Thank you
Karen Perdue
02:19:54
A known travesty 😡
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
02:20:06
We will need the emails for the motion for next month.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:20:28
I'll forward everything to you Terrence and feel free to post them on the website if you want
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:20:32
they are public record
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
02:20:45
Thank you!
Karen Perdue
02:20:49
Put DONE in “exhaustive efforts.”
Bob Gelfand
02:21:10
Great suggestion!
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:22:03
Hi Jennifer, could I also have a copy of the materials that you so kindly offered before? Tony Wilkinson, Panorama City NC (and WG4CC), tonyw.civic@gmail.com, 818-212-5384 (mobile)
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
02:24:11
Hi Jennifer, I would like the materials you presented as well. steve,randall@westhillsnc.org or stevekr2000@aol.com.
Valerie Contreras WNC
02:24:22
But that doesn’t confirm that it went to all commission and committees or even city hall. it doesn’t list all.
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
02:25:06
Jennifer: steve.randall@westhillsnc.org
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:27:26
1000% agree with Doug. The best thing we could get would be a BONC that knows and uses the power of the bully pulpit to advocate FOR the Neighborhood Council system, rather than seeking personal importance as a "policy-maker".
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:28:04
BONC is pretty useless and just serves as a mouthpiece for the Dept at this point
Pastor R Mammon
02:28:06
it is time for a recall petition
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:29:21
First, we should ask the next Mayor, whomever she or he may be, to appoint BONC members who are active advocates FOR the Neighborhood Council system, rather than people who love to pass unlimited numbers of "policies' (= rules and regulations).
David Uebersax - Winnetka NC President, LANCC Vice Chair
02:30:04
Agreed Tony
Pastor R Mammon
02:30:46
Can we wait for the new mayor tony?
Glenn Bailey
02:31:05
There is a DONE staffer who is the point person for filing Community Impact Statements and related matters....
Nina Royal
02:31:06
I agree with Tony!
Nina Royal
02:31:31
Who is the DO E staffer?
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
02:31:53
I'll be meeting personally with candidate Caruso soon and will promote this idea.
Pastor R Mammon
02:33:40
here is the real reason the City Council wants the NC system to fail: NC's have become too empowered for them.
Doug Epperhart
02:33:48
The link to the recording of this meeting should be sent to every member of BONC, none of whom are here today.
Glenn Bailey
02:33:51
@Nina: Last I heard Lorenzo Briceno was DONE's CIS point person....
David Uebersax - Winnetka NC President, LANCC Vice Chair
02:34:28
They were gauging severity to determine prioritization?
Nina Royal
02:34:39
T.U.
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:34:43
👍to discussing with Caruso. I think we also need to treat Bass as a potential "new road" candidate, so she has that push behind her should she win. I don't know any 'normal' people who don't want CHANGE in City Hall. It is just that some people have blind faith that an established politician will necessarily be a change-maker.
Pastor R Mammon
02:35:39
Yeah Tony
Sharon Brewer
02:37:04
state the motion
Pastor R Mammon
02:38:04
Do you people really think a CIS can abolish curruption?
Linda Gravani Lake Balboa NC
02:38:25
I'm wondering WHY City Clerk is not handling ALL CIS. It could appears that DONE is filtering CIS. Why the middleman?
Pastor R Mammon
02:38:27
And incompetitence/
Liz Amsden
02:38:30
Motion that LANCC communicate to all incoming and continuing elected officials to not prioritize the concerns of DONE & BONC and focus instead on the priorities of the NCs.
Glenn Bailey
02:38:46
Jacob Wexler = from CAO
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:38:59
I mean we took funding responsibilities away from them why not the cis system too
Glenn Bailey
02:39:07
Budget Advocates website: www.BudgetAdvocates.org
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:39:46
I don't think a CIS 9s that answer to real power at City Hall. The CIS was pushed as the "measure of NC effectiveness" by the current Mayor, who has not demonstrated true love or affection for the Neighborhood Council system. If anything, our fixation on filing CISs *slows down"
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:40:07
slows down our response to developing legislation
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:40:16
I think it’s sept 12
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:40:31
is the answer
Glenn Bailey
02:40:51
Monday, October 3 at 6pm for Budget Training Part 2 focused on expenditures (revenues were covered during Part 1)
Pastor R Mammon
02:42:26
Public demonstrations do get the attention of local press
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
02:42:38
You are invited to provide your input at the Budget and Finance Committee on the Department’s proposedamendments to the Funding Ordinance. There have been numerous questions regarding the Department’sefforts to propose corrective changes to the Los Angeles Administrative Code relative to the 2011 budgetadvocacy special fund account. Please review this comprehensive statement to learn more.
Sharon Brewer
02:43:08
Is there a list of departments that will be covered by the Budget Advocates for next fiscal year?
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:43:30
We are still signing up, but we will be prioritizing
Pastor R Mammon
02:45:04
OMG Planning Committee! Take your meds first LOL
Glenn Bailey
02:45:53
But we do have two FORMER BONC Commissioners in attendance....
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
02:46:35
Today's Congress of NC's meeting at 1:30 PM link: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZMocuGvrT0rE9YAxJ7FDjtRKF8Ouh98kk77
Terrence Gomes SORO NC
02:46:51
Thank you Steve.
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:47:27
The list of workshops has been posted on the Congress website. (Last minute changes are possible.) https://www.neighborhoodcongress.la/
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:47:37
The requested $30k wouldn't fix DONE's lack of handling the issue appropriately
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:48:10
How did the lack of funding mean that no one could check ~50 emails quarterly
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:48:22
Maybe the $37k spent on DONE website updates that went no where could have been spent on the CIS system?
Glenn Bailey
02:48:51
VANC = Valley Alliance of NCs
Bob Gelfand
02:49:12
How much NC input was there in the choice of the new BONC commissioner?
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
02:50:21
Congress workshop list (last minute changes may happen) is on this page: https://www.neighborhoodcongress.la/2022-congress
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
02:52:55
Yes. Interim report now, good. Thx.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:53:06
Ohhhhh so now we want raw data
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:53:15
And transparrncy
David Uebersax - Winnetka NC President, LANCC Vice Chair
02:54:07
And INTENSITY!
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:54:27
Every time I ask for raw data it gets pushed back multiple times
Sharon Brewer
02:55:12
Can the meeting ZOOM ID for Congress Planning meeting at 1:30 p.m. be provided for those people who do not use the link that was provided in chat?
Glenn Bailey
02:55:24
Any delays in the posting our of our NC meeting agendas via ENS is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE.....instead it should be ALL HANDS ON DECK, including the NEAs and supervisors, to make certain all agendas are posted timely. Thank you.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
02:56:05
Agree with glenn
Steve Randall-WHNC Alt
02:56:26
To join the meeting, dial +1 669 900 6833 and enter Meeting ID 875 5873 6192 and then press # or clickhttps://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZMocuGvrT0rE9YAxJ7FDjtRKF8Ouh98kk77
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:59:38
Was this before or after you dismissed her request in a BONC meeting?
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
02:59:59
Because there's a recording of you dismissing her
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:00:07
I received no email
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:00:20
From you nor was I I formed
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:00:21
and then you agendized the written disclosure
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:00:51
If you sent checks asking for a response you could then follow up on those that did not respond
Karen Perdue
03:00:57
Everyone should have been alerted immediately once it was known the portal wasn’t working!! A slap in the face to all NC’s. No excuses!!
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:01:50
I would like a chance to respond
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:02:51
The lack of facts directly correspond to DONE's lack of communication
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:04:10
We shouldn't have to attend BONC for information. That's 8 hours of my month I'd like to reclaim.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:04:54
Keeping us informed would have included sending out a notice
Bob Gelfand
03:05:48
It seems to me that the CIS problem is a matter of priorities. If it were the highest, it would have been solved. Instead, the DONE is spending its time and effort being authoritarian and fighting for power
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:06:29
This is a systematic issue, it isn't a "Jennifer filed X CISes that went no where" issue
Sidney Gold
03:06:52
appears resources at DONE are a priority to develop all sorts of mandatory trainings
Bob Gelfand
03:10:00
Sid is right. Let's ask how much city budget is being used to develop more useless trainings
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:10:32
I suggest everyone look at the raw data for all of these surveys as the comments are illuminating
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:10:51
And the slide shows that DONE produces do not tell the whole story
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:11:14
The raw data is not included as an attachment for the presentation and it should be in the interest of transparency
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:12:09
Only keeping the ENS postings for 3 months is a grave disservice to NCs. Data storage is cheap and these PDFs are not huge.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:12:28
It also hurts us when doing historical research
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
03:13:12
By the way (a personal pet peeve about BONC), it was BPONC that decided to demand that DONE do the ENS agenda posting for all the NCs without ever considering the staff cost of doing so. Until DONE got it streamlined, it took 3 full time equivalent employees to run the system after the *BONC* decision to dump thw work on DONE.
David Uebersax - Winnetka NC President, LANCC Vice Chair
03:14:01
Our fellow Elected Officials (paid), Commissioners, and the staff they appoint/oversee would benefit from a mindset that NC's are not burdensome gadflies that must be limited at meetings, but a valuable extension: 99 (+ alliances and coalitions) that absorb, vet, and convey massive input that would otherwise be limited in their opportunities to give feedback at meetings downtown.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:14:06
I think that DONE run ENS is actually in the Charter or Code
Valerie Contreras WNC
03:15:02
Thanks for being here Raquel. These are important topics.
Bob Gelfand
03:15:02
We didn’t do online agenda posting at the beginning. The posting rule at the time took the Brown Act requirement and multiplied it to 5 physical postings
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
03:15:23
Wow—- proud to hear the conversation and everyone’s emphasis ! Thank you!
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:15:26
@David, Monica made a comment in that vein and was very appreciative of the data that the Budget Advocates provided to Council as part of our budget report
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
03:16:21
If was a BONC POLICY in their new posting policy that contained the requirement for ENS posting. The only Brown Act requirement we have for posting is to physically post ONE agenda at a 24 hour location and to put it on our website if we have one. All the other "extra" posting rules (and minutes rules) are the result of BONC POLICIES.
Bob Gelfand
03:18:05
We dealt with departments by picking up the phone
David Rockello(hey/you)RVNC-Prime
03:18:50
It is the Steven Box hatred & revenge culture that's been brewing for years!!!
Sharon Brewer
03:19:59
Number of DONE staff is not as important as the quality and consistantacy of work (everyone on same page when responding to NCs questions) provided by the DONE staff.
Bob Gelfand
03:20:24
I would suspect that the CPRA request increase is due to widespread concern about what DONE is doing
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
03:20:33
Well, there are sadly many who are not good neighbors— they’re rude, don’t pull permits, leave their trash on the ground, dislike police, dislike trees. People are growing up differently.
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
03:20:40
David, although I do believe in ghosts, I personally doubt that the nice people who still live at DONE are still haunted with 'hatred and revenge' spirits from the past. We have more issues from resource scarcity than from bad faith.
David Uebersax - Winnetka NC President, LANCC Vice Chair
03:20:42
Sharon...maybe NC's need our own funding restored to be able to foster our own staff.
Sharon Brewer
03:21:41
What is the CPRA website referenced by GM?
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:21:55
That is not what you've always done. Lawsuits had to be threatened to get that data
Cindy Cleghorn -- STNC
03:23:32
Please let LAFD Captain Zipperman know we have “wind” in Sunland-Tujunga I Very High Fire Severity Zone area. FYI.
David Rockello(hey/you)RVNC-Prime
03:24:42
Steven Box dumped years of data so the department can say: 'We can't give you what we don't have! 'Public Records Act response given & end of debate no record exists... we're supposed to move on from that!?!
Brad Kane - PICO NC
03:24:59
Jamie, I totally agree with you.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:26:31
For the record. I am the one that very explicitly stated that I do not feel that I should have to do DONE's work. I am on the thread and I do not recall Jamie saying anything like that.
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:27:59
I resubmitted as tom requested thi
Jamie York - Reseda NC
03:28:18
Why are you impugning my character publicly when I didn’t even do the thing you suggest I did?
Sharon Brewer
03:29:04
David--DONE has staff that is paid very well that need to do their jobs. My comment about regarding quality being more important then numbers has nothing to do with NCs paying for people to do DONEs job.
Sharon Brewer
03:29:56
Raquel camera on--getting dizzy.
David Rockello(hey/you)RVNC-Prime
03:30:12
People in other Departments hold grudges against DONE & Steven Box! They don't care that Raquel is in charge now!
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:30:12
The email thread that includes Jamie has been posted in chat
Tony Wilk.., Panorama City
03:30:16
To Doug's point, we have department (like Transportation) that are notorious for their insularity and unavailability. Today, the Mayor has (I am sure) blessed the Planning Dept new policy of REMOVING the great outreach they briefly had.
Glenn Bailey
03:31:42
BONC: http://ens.lacity.org/done/agendas/doneagendas197164774_09062022.pdf
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:34:35
My previous posting missed the last response from Tom. I apologize. I have posted an updated PDF. Mistake was made due to haste, so sorry.
Jennifer Goodie - MINC
03:36:01
initial email sent to the commission
Sharon Brewer
03:36:20
Will VANC meeting next Thursday be sent out?