Welcome! We'll be starting on the hour.

Big thanks to everyone for joining today!

Peg Olsen, Saratoga Springs

Peter Reed, Copake, NY

Brookhaven, Long Island, NY

Zachary Ashbrook, Buffalo, NY

High Falls, NY

Really looking forward to this session from up in Vermont!

Beacon, NY

Thanks Meme! Artis Freye, Fairfield CA

Joanne, Brooklyn NY

Medford, NY (Long Island)

Andy Ramsgard from CNY Land Trust

Jeff Mapes - Saratoga Springs, NY

Kevin Munroe, Long Island, NY

Mary Hadley - Genesee Land Trust

Tilton, NH

Nate Nardi-Cyrus - Rosendale, NY

Max Heitner - Finger Lakes Land Trust

Laura Heady, Rosendale, NY (Ulster County)

Renee Bouplon - Greenwich, NY - Agricultural Stewardship Association

Gretchen Reed - Mohonk Preserve, Ulster County

Eric Mastroberti - Finger Lakes Land Trust

Paul Tankel - Genesee Land Trust

Christine Vanderlan, Columbia Land Conservancy

Olivia Green, Syracuse TNC

Matt Decker, currently in Wappinger, NY on the land of the Wappinger Lenape

Mary Ripka, Pulaski, NY-TNC

Riley Johndonnell— Scenic Hudson, Kingston/Poughkeepsie, NY

Serena Orleski - Watershed Agricultural Council - Catskills

Good morning! Celia from Rensselaer Youth Outdoors, Averill Park, NY - Stockbridge-Munsee and Schaghticoke's people's land.

Good morning All! I'm Shaniqua Bowden from the Kingston Land Trust.

Jim Bonesteel - Rensselaer Plateau Alliance, Stephentown, NY - Stockbridge-Munsee and Schaghticoke's people's land.

Grace Murphy - Woodstock Land Conservancy

Terra Bach - Thousand Islands Land Trust

Greg Shaheen - Kingston Land Trust from Esopus / Lenape land

Tela Troge- Shinnecock Nation

Melanie Cirillo - Peconic Land Trust

How do Native peoples feel when called Indians? I thought that the Indian name came from Columbus' intention to get to India and unintentionally got to this hemisphere. How do we all feel about that? Should this matter and should we look for the most sensible language to use?

Abdiel, I was under a similar impression, although I’m sure preference depends on the person. An interesting thought: A coworker of mine is Navajo and prefers “Indigenous” because she believes you are “native” to the place you were born. Hence referring to “Native American “ could mean anyone born in America

Can you provide an example of a collaboration where the land trust retains ownership in fee while granting cultural access to the property for a local tribal interest.?

can you clarify language? Should we be using the term "Indian" land or "Native Peoples" land--or does it matter?

https://nefoclandtrust.org/

Thanks for questions and comments! Keep them coming. We will address towards end of session.

Do you have examples where it didn't go well; where the transfer of fee to a tribal nation with restrictions for conservation purposes that the tribe did not abide by once they held fee? This is a concern I have heard when considering such a transfer.

I am also interested in hearing more about appropriate name usage - have heard there is not a consensus

Cultural Respect Easement (example) - https://www.soulfirefarm.org/love-notes-finding-hope-resilience-during-challenging-times/"As people not indigenous to the land we steward it has been integral that we also explore the ways we can be accountable to the land’s original stewards, the Stockbridge-Munsee Band of the Mohican Nation who were forcibly displaced to a reservation in northern Wisconsin in the 1800s. Part of our relationship building process has been establishing a cultural respect easement that would allow Mohican citizens to use the Soul Fire Land for ceremonies and wildcrafting in perpetuity, and we are pleased to announce that the Tribal Council recently passed and signed the easement! We hope that the models we are developing reflect our ongoing commitment and accountability to the land and its original stewards."

A local example (Stockbridge-Munsee and OSI) along the Hudson River: https://www.openspaceinstitute.org/news/papscanee-island-nature-preserve-returned-to-the-stockbridge-munsee-community

I'm interested in the conservation easement terms and how they differ from an easement with another nonprofit, town, or other public (not private landowner as in a family, etc.)

I am interested in understanding the nexus of IRC 170(h) with granting of a CE to an Indian Nation. Does our IRS consider an Indian Nation a "qualified conservation easement grantee", and could a private landowner donate a CE and qualify for all of the same tax benefits that they would if they donated the CE to a land trust or govt entity.

Is there any additional info on the pending NYS legislation regarding indigenous hunting and fishing rights? I'd like to reach out to my legislators to support this effort.

Thank you for this excellent session! I'm sorry I need to leave for an 11am meeting and hope to catch the Q&A via the recording.

Thank you so much. This was amazing - the relationships and knowledge shared - so grateful <3

I am working on a property that involves NY SHPO and a pre contact nexus which is resulting in a voluntary deed restriction - my interactions have only been with non native state employees, how can I confirm that the restrictions proposed reflect the priorities and wishes of the Lenape tribe relevant to the property in question

That is what I think we should learn!

Information regarding NYS legislation on treaty rights to hunt/fish: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/s5266

Thanks!

This was presented at Rally a few years back: https://www.capenews.net/mashpee/news/native-conservancy-signs-land-access-agreement/article_ed9b4b44-898d-58c2-a43c-4c59d66904c8.html

Why would it be appropriate to convey lands to Indigenous groups with restrictions? I would think they would define "conservation" as they see fit.

good point Tom

Tom, that's why I'm curious about the conservation easement terms...

Regarding question re work with SHPO and how to ensure Indian nation with interest in the area (Lenape was mentioned) approves of deed restrictions: do you have access to CRIS, and if so are Lenape representatives listed as contacts for your project? If yes, you may be able to reach an appropriate contact at Lenape that way

Sometimes relationship building, that process of being in touch with an Indian Nation, conflicts with the pace at which a land acquisition (or potentially a legal battle) is moving/moves. Advice for how to balance that?

if there were one book to read on the legal history of indian nations and the united state what would it be?

what is local property tax status for lands held by First Nations?

re book, try "Exiled in the Land of the Free," by John Mohawk, Oren Lyons, and Daniel Inouye

Thank you Alex I will access CRIS and look into that.

Yes, Chris. Re: cultural use agreements, First Light Learning Journey has some resources here: https://firstlightlearningjourney.net/resources/cultural-easements-and-culture-use-agreements/ and includes that cultural respect access agreement you referenced from Rally between the Native Land Conservancy and Dennis Conservation Trust in MA.

I am working on a few different projects at this time to create a relationship between the local Indian Nations and the land in the Thousand Islands. I have begun this journey and am in the research phase to figure out how to make these connections respectively and depict the cultural history between the Indian Nations and this land. In addition, TILT owns Fort Haldimand on Carleton Island and I look forward to working to restore relationships, learn more and provide this information to the public. This is important to us and I look forward to reaching out to the presenters here today! Thank you for this impactful presentation.

Great session - thanks to all of the presenters!

Thank you to all the presenters for sharing today and to LTA for hosting! I wish I could stay longer to hear more of the questions and answers. Looking forward to the recording of the event. Thanks again!

I have found that European concepts of "conservation" that land trusts have are not always appropriate for Indigenous concepts

What did CRIS and SHPO stand for again??

Cultural Resource Information System and State Historic Preservation Office - hope that helps - both NY state offices

@Catherine Landis, Thank you!!

Thank you all for this thoughtful discussion! Looking forward to watching the rest of the recording.

fabulous presentation. Thank you to the presenters and Land Trust Alliance!

Thanks for that answer - I'm also curious how land trusts can support the time-sensitive legislative fights even when they aren't necessarily in relationship with that Indian Nation (or as much as they'd like to be). @Alex, your website was helpful but also, are there organizations that are advocating for that bill?

Check out This Land Pod Cast: https://crooked.com/podcast-series/this-land/

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How long is access to the conference hub available to attendees after the conference is over?

Neighbors of Onondaga Nation is a local ally group for the Onondagas with some great information -has a listserv as well https://www.peacecouncil.net/programs/neighbors-of-the-onondaga-nation

Such a wonderful presentation! I've learned a lot, I appreciated this conference and all the wonderful resources presented!

https://www.albanyproper.com/troy-neighbors-fight-to-save-historic-mohican-site-from-development/

Thank you. Appreciate the thoughts and insights

Such a deep and rich discussion and excellent panel. I am so happy that we are having these conservations. Thank you all!

Thank you so much . I will share resources. Mary Garsia

Great discussion and presentations. Thank you.

Thank you!

Excellent discussion! Thank you to all for sharing your knowledge and insights.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you - great presentation!

Thanks!

Thank you and lets keep it going!

from the Bang land trust in Brooklyn

thank you all for hosting this, it's energizing to find so many fellow settlers and settler institutions engaged in Indigenous solidarity / land return

Thank you for a thoughtful and helpful presentation