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NWOTIC Sarah Buffie & Amy Chavez #2 - Shared screen with speaker view
Delores Williams
15:18
Good morning
Jennifer Kinney
16:05
Jennifer Kinney , CTRS #20696 jkinney@lucasdd.org
Beth Boyle
16:57
survey link for CEUs/CPD. Reminder, you can only get credit if you are logged on online. No phone participants will receive credit. please also consider joining our collaborative! If you are interested in receiving more information about the NW TIC Collaborative, please indicate that in the chat box with your name & email.
Beth Boyle
17:01
https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surveymonkey.com%2Fr%2FKGQ7Y9R&data=04%7C01%7CHolly.Jones%40dodd.ohio.gov%7C5c9d4be5b8c746db681808d94865ace7%7C50f8fcc494d84f0784eb36ed57c7c8a2%7C0%7C0%7C637620423784422055%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=gXrCt6ndiw37Lb1F%2F41hExE2PzrbSfooH%2FlHna1xYK0%3D&reserved=0
kathy okuley
17:30
Kathy Okuley,LSW, Kathleen_okuley@mercy.com, S.0020170
Michael Werner
17:50
AWESOME!
James Mallory
17:55
James Mallory
Heidi Neace
18:04
If we completed the survey online from last week's class, will that show up in our training list or will we receive an email confirmation?
Angela Mierzejewski
18:19
Angela Mierzejewski, SSA, amierz@wycbdd.org.
Isabella Schmidt
18:21
Hi, I would love more information about the NW TIC Collaborative - Isabella Schmidt - ischmidt@welcomehouseinc.org
Leslie Ryan
18:41
Leslie Ryan, Leslie.Ryan@mhscc.org, RN273030
Angela Ahlers
18:43
Angela Ahlersaahlers@auglaizedd.org
James Mallory
20:49
James Mallory CDCA.173647 jmallory@mcbdds.org
Diane Parrott
23:04
I would like more information on the NW TIC Collaborative please: Diane Parrott dparrott@wmsco.org
Brianna Bush
23:44
Brianna Bush
Brianna Bush
23:58
Brianna Bush - bsbush@fccs.us
Amy Sullivan
25:16
Amy Stenger-Sullivan amy@rootedcompassion.com #E.1901406-SUPV.
Stacy Shaw
26:48
Note I logged in last time but I did not have a link for the survey last meeting and I did not receive the slides as a follow up from the last meeting am I still able to take the survey and receive credit from the last session
Emily Ribnik
27:28
Same as Stacy - I had to come a little late and leave right at the end time and didn't do a survey or get slides :(
Elaine Dowdell
28:06
Me either
Barbara Cline
29:21
Me either
Billie Jo Bunting
30:39
Are you aware Amy That people who talk about what you are talking about right now are known to the department of justice as delusional individuals and some mental health providers in Ohio feel the same way. So why teach this stuff to patients when this is how they are judged amongst the community and health professions? Speaking on experience myself of what I was told when using this tactics for my own recovery of complex ptsd
Dawn Raypole-Ottawa
32:02
Dawn Raypole, SSA
Dawn Raypole-Ottawa
32:32
Oops - Dawn Raypole, SSA.....draypole@ocbdd.org
Dawn Raypole-Ottawa
33:45
I wanted to nap
Tonia Byron
33:55
I felt like I could now face my stressful day.
Kim Hines
34:14
I also did not receive the power point or confirmation I attended the last training
Tonya Hinke
34:26
I am working from home so I find it harder to focus as my children are home as well and there are more distractions
Kelly Sowder
34:34
I felt a little too relaxed. I didn't get much sleep last night so it made me want to nap too.
Walter Stahl
36:20
I have fallen asleep doing relaxing techniques. When the system resets you body tells you what really is going on.
Billie Jo Bunting
38:51
What do you recommend when you live in a community that makes people relive the trauma of their past? How would you deal with these types of situations even when your local mental health providers are the ones doing the "relive your trauma" Strategies?
Billie Jo Bunting
40:10
No need to answer back just some things for you all to investigate for future tactics for patients that are forced to "relive their past trauma"
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
46:14
Engaged, invested, caring,
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
46:39
Kindness, courteous, respect dignity
Jewell Good
51:18
what is at risk when we use our voice to tell the truth...can you put the rest in here?
Gilbert Dillard
55:26
The risk for me is not to cause more harm and am I creating trust.
Billie Jo Bunting
56:27
In this community that I live in telling the truth gets you killed or they at least intimidate you to the point to where you kill yourself... and local police and the local mental health providers are involved in these types of strategies to the people of the community.
Billie Jo Bunting
57:15
I've seen these strategies many times with a bunch in my community.
Gilbert Dillard
57:56
Knowing this how does this affect the way you work with others?
Walter Stahl
58:46
When we are young and we use our voice. We are typically corrected in a harsh way producing the trauma response that stays in our nervous system. From there as adults when we want to use our voice the nervous system remembers. Causing pain and preventing us from using our voice.
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
58:49
The Risk of going public and using our-voice is REJECTION, Negative Judgement , our reputation is at risk if we are perceived as wrong or not in agreement with the existing leadership’s point of view. Others may not support you or come along side to at least say they heard you, they validate your right to speak out with your view and your voice.
Billie Jo Bunting
59:22
I become more viligent and more protective not just for myself but for the other then when I am this way they attack even more. So how would you deal with a community that is like this including the mental health providers. I live in a military environment.
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
59:52
Not being believed also.
Billie Jo Bunting
01:00:23
Exactly I have patients who won't talk because people tell them that they are crazy.
Billie Jo Bunting
01:00:49
or delusional
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:01:42
YAY ANDREA!
Billie Jo Bunting
01:01:52
but these people who are calling people crazy and delusional once investigated are the person of interest of these peoples trauma.
Kelly Sowder
01:01:54
i agree with Andrea
Kelly Sowder
01:05:55
I agree. I was raised the same way- not to share things.
Walter Stahl
01:06:16
"Children should be seen and not heard" This is what was said in my household many of times.
Crystal Pickus
01:06:22
i find people can be really hurt by constructive feedback. how to balance personal feelings with organizational imperatives.
Crystal Pickus
01:06:50
so it has to be really worthwhile to disrupt that homeostasis to make change
Kelly Sowder
01:07:14
I think I have struggled with all three of these issues
Walter Stahl
01:11:15
Thank you
Andrea Turner
01:12:16
What an ah ha moment
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:13:38
The Global High HYPERVIGILANCE is a Surgical Trauma Nurse’s state of mind and PSYCH NURSE working in PSYCH ICU
Nicole Estle
01:13:46
Crystal Feeney's internet went out but is back now. Could you let her in the course again??????
Walter Stahl
01:14:28
So what can we do to avoid it? The global high functioning? I have it all the time. Panic Attacks, Anxiety. What are things can we do to prevent being in it. As opposed to the strategies after the fact?
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:14:51
IT’s a survivor functioning as well as food binges, self soothing with THINGS, versus relationships
Billie Jo Bunting
01:15:01
My father who is a army personnel that is recent deceased mysteriously got ALS and died rapidly of it. and prior to his death he was having ptsd situations in his sleep. And he was very suicidal back in 2000 when he lost his father and his wife left him after a month of his father dying. ALS is a nerve situation is that due to not being treated for his depression and PTSD?
Andrea Jaworski
01:15:11
Can we receive a copy of this powerpoint?
Billie Jo Bunting
01:17:13
And I been serving along with my father and Army for 43 years now and I'm seeing this pattern a lot in our American soldiers.
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:17:25
DISEASE BEGINS USUALLY IN VISCERAL NEUROLOGICAL ASSAULTSTHAT your immune system responds to.
Crystal Pickus
01:20:03
I don't want to be a burden if I can figure out a way to internally resource
michelle litton-betts
01:20:27
being seen as weak/vulnerable/perhaps not a good choice for a leader. Not receiving the support needed.
Pam Wheeler
01:20:33
You are the one who is supposed to be providing help to others. I think many allow their pride to get in the way...
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:21:03
The risk remain the same- and now we have DIVERSITY, EQUITABILITY, and Inclusion committee to help identify who is at risk and how to deal with systemic changes to improve.The Risk of going public and using our-voice is REJECTION, Negative Judgement , our reputation is at risk if we are perceived as wrong or not in agreement with the existing leadership’s point of view. Others may not support you or come along side to at least say they heard you, they validate your right to speak out with your view and your voice.
Gilbert Dillard
01:21:33
Don't want my co-workers to think I can't handle my job. So I don't ask for help.
Heidi Neace
01:22:24
Pride & being judged. Thinking that because we are asking for support, we can't handle the emotional / mental stress that comes with the job.
Billie Jo Bunting
01:22:26
I don't ask for support because in my research with the mental health around here for the 2 years I was court ordered to see a counselor the people in the community tried to kill me over intel that was shared in a confidentiality aspect . so how would you deal with this kind of situation especially when someone has a "silent voice" like telepathic communications formula going on as they claim instead of admitting they have schizophrenia?
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:22:32
The mind set that you’re the weakestlink
Billie Jo Bunting
01:23:19
Which is a violation to ones civil human rights under the guidelines of the untied states government
Angela Wheeler
01:23:54
Being viewed as weak! Asking for help allows others to cast judgment and question your abilities..
Walter Stahl
01:25:11
One thought to share.... I was at a family function over the weekend and it went really well. In the past I was always stressed and dreaded these but this time did not. And it all went well. My kids also did very well. I never got stressed or upset and had fun.I also did not need to eat a bunch of sugar and coffee and need to sleep when we got home. Though I did take a nap beforehand. But usually it's both before and after.
Billie Jo Bunting
01:25:27
With my research with schizophranics considering I was born with a silent voice that they hear... I have dealt with stalkers and psychopaths and serial killers because they{schizo's} want that voice out of their heads … Just something for you all to think about...
Billie Jo Bunting
01:27:05
And I just found out myself about having that "Silent voice" that the schizo's hear and some of them I can hold a normal conversation with like they are in person. we hear one another that clearly.
Billie Jo Bunting
01:27:52
So we would like to know how we would deal with this matter. Because it's not just happening to me it's happening to others.
Heidi Sanders
01:28:41
I have another meeting at 11....can you add the 2 links we need to complete please?
Sarah Spence
01:28:46
one thing to always remember is using people first language when discussing those with mental illness or any disability... Its a person suffering from schizophrenia. this helps show that there is more to their identity than that disorder.
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:29:11
Us nurses are useful!! Lol
Walter Stahl
01:29:30
Yes. Once I stated opening up I found that so many other people who don't show to have trauma and trauma related conditions have these. I was shocked. People that always appeared to be strong did like me - collapse when no one was watching.
Walter Stahl
01:29:47
I would be talking but have mic issues.
Kelly Sowder
01:30:21
Was the first session recorded and will the session this Wednesday being recorded? Wednesdays are bad for me but I would like to do those sessions as well.
Heidi Sanders
01:30:50
Surveys please?
Sarah Spence
01:30:51
yes the first one was recorded
Anita Sanders
01:31:12
Thank you. Last week it was put in the chat. If that helps.
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:32:02
Self acceptance such a journey of dealing and canceling the childhood lies,
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:32:50
It’s Becoming and embracing both strengths and weaknesses
Amy Chavez
01:33:07
Amybekah@yahoo.com
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:33:19
Thank you Amy
Amy Chavez
01:33:21
www.lovesomatics.org
Jewell Good
01:33:36
gotta go to the next meeting. TY
Donnie Cox
01:33:43
Thank you!!
Stephanie Shank
01:33:50
Survey link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/KGQ7Y9R
Louise wichmann
01:34:06
Thank you for your sharing
AMY ANNARINO RN- MEd
01:34:12
Sorry for a stuck button with a Raised Hand …such is life on Zoom
Tonya Hinke
01:34:21
Thank you
Reba Bishoff
01:34:32
Thank you!
Jennifer Ruetz
01:34:33
thank you !
Kelly Sowder
01:34:38
Thank you so much! This was very good
Anita Sanders
01:34:46
Thank you! Have a great day!
Angie Obenour
01:34:49
Thank you, Amy!
Tara Robertson
01:34:49
thank you
Delphine Cox
01:34:49
thank you!
Lisa Celek
01:35:02
thank you
Jacqueline Santiago
01:35:22
Thank you!
Susan Zirkel
01:35:30
Thank you!
Kristie Humbert
01:35:33
Thank you!
Heidi Neace
01:35:36
Thank you
Heidi Hull
01:35:46
Thank you!