Glen - Virginia Wei will be sharing her screen and I'll introduce her

Tonight's VANC agenda is linked here: http://www.lancc.org/resources/VANC%20agenda%202022.02.10.pdf

Can we find out if the plans for the Mayoral Forum will be remote please?

www.ladwp.com/remediation for the Well Field Projects

Operation NEXT! Recycle all of Hyperion wastewater and store it in the East Valley Aquifer.

Tonight's VANC agenda is linked here: http://www.lancc.org/resources/VANC%20agenda%202022.02.10.pdf

Even with Hyperion recycling, we will STILL need Sate Water Project water. That's why the Bay-Delta conveyance is essential.

Most Valley runoff (Pacoima Dam) is now captured and put into the East Valley Aquifer.

Thought: If the power system's pumped storage can pump valley-level water back up into the reservoir, way couldn't it ALSO pump valley well water back uphill into the reservoir?

Tony is correct !! But Brown had plan almost finished and Newsom cancelled it and wanted more studies after 30 years and LA politicians said nothing !!!!! We get what we deserve

The link to the Zoom recording of this presentation, and the entire VANC meeting will be posted tomorrow on the LANCC.org NC Alliances webpage: http://www.lancc.org/nc-alliances.php

No rebate for fake lawns. They prevent water reaching the aquifer.

The local militias are forming now. We are enlisting truckers to block the SB9 and SB10 projects. The more realistic option is there is (hopefully if gets signatures) measure on the November ballot to overturn state land use dictates.

Re: SB9, Does the elimination of CEQA remove developers from the water accesevaluation with DWP?

Speaking of secessions, VALLEY VOTE is back in person! Next meeting is Monday, February 21, at 7:00 p.m. at Galpin Ford's headquarters in North Hills, just East of the 405 Freeway.

SB9 does not remove CEQA because it was never in place for these small projects.

Don't take a bath for a month?

YES!! YES!! YES!!! and we have people in Southern Califonia who OPPOSE the Bay Delta project. Total insanity.

Large subdivisions need to get a water availability letter. (That is always given, anyway. It's a rubber stamp issue.) added dwelling units or lot splits have never had to do all that.

I hear Len fine!

Does anyone recommend a contractor for splitting your water system from the house for the stormwater part of the bills.

From Commissioner Shaffer (link at end): "An updated draft code of conduct was presented to the Commission by Commissioner Vo-Ramirez and me at the meeting on February 2nd. The Commission voted to accept our draft for the purpose of getting comment from NCs, DONE, the NCAD unit and commissioners. If you want to discuss the most current draft code of conduct, please send out this link:"https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkesjwyfvvayu2s/Red-lined%20Draft%20Code%20of%20Conduct%202-2-22.pdf?dl=0

Why can't non-board participants operate under the same rules? We have many persons attending meetings whom are disruptive.

The Commission previously indicated it would consider the Code of Conduct AFTER the action on the proposed revised Digital Communication Policy -- has that timeline changed?

Personal opinion, Richard, but I think the BOARD (*not* some person in DONE or BONC) needs to be responsible for the appropriate behavior of all of its participants, including committee members. We need to clean up our own messes. Asking 'Mother DONE' to fix our problems turns us all into little children/

Tony Wilkinson, Panorama City Neighborhood Council, tonyw.civic@gmail.com 818-212-5384 (mobile)

From Commissioner Shaffer (link at end): "An updated draft code of conduct was presented to the Commission by Commissioner Vo-Ramirez and me at the meeting on February 2nd. The Commission voted to accept our draft for the purpose of getting comment from NCs, DONE, the NCAD unit and commissioners. If you want to discuss the most current draft code of conduct, please send out this link:"https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkesjwyfvvayu2s/Red-lined%20Draft%20Code%20of%20Conduct%202-2-22.pdf?dl=0

I agree with Tony.

Stakeholder often have sharp touungge

People who come to our meetings have a right to be there. We need to preserve order, suspend meetings if needed, seek police presence if need be. But we also need to teach our members not to be snowflakes. Thick skin should come with public service.

The whole idea for the workplace equity amendment was from Garcetti’s executive directive 27. However, nowhere in Directive 27 does it state that City Employees, Neighborhood Council board members or Stakeholder Committee members should be immediately suspended, thus being judged “guilty until proven innocent.

The NC Bylaws Template is partially deficient in its wording. One Valley NC is considering a recommendation to ADD the following to the template wording: “Board members and Alternates not completing all mandatory trainings required by the City withinforty-five (45) days of being seated, or upon expiration of their current training(s), shall lose theirCouncil voting rights on all items before the board, including the ability to make or secondmotions, until they have successfully taken or renewed such training(s). For continuing Boardmembers, there is no grace period upon the expiration of any mandatory training.”

There are separate issues here. (1) Suspension and removal for failure to acknowledge the C of C Policy. That is as old as the original BONC policy. (2) Suspension and removal for a *violation* of the provisions of the CofC policy, It is #2 that many of us though should not immediately run to the action of the DONE G.M. (3) The feeling of many of us (including Commissioner Len in his remarks) that the BOARD needs to take more responsibility to act quickly to solve its own problems.

Thank you Glenn! There should be a provision for covering all mandated training,. I have wasted god knows how much time on this and it needs to be fixed . Also as noted, the consequences of violation need to be defined.

The issue of NC Board Members are not employees is RESOLVED by the proposal from Comms Shaffer and Vo-Ramirez. Rather than referring to the city's EMPLOYEE Equity policy, it says that we will DO OUR OWN rules. That reinforces the special nature of NC participants, versus employees or volunteers.

And, by the way that directive was written by the Mayor in his effort to support the repeal Prop 209. California voters did not agree, and the repeal failed. Yet, NCs are to be subject to the arbitrary dictates and recommendations as that directive was interpreted by DONE.

Personal opinion is that the objection in the draft motion to the use of the city (employee/volunteer) Equity Policy has been resolved. I suggest we not do a motion today.

There are SIX Raised Hands in queue -- when will WE have an opportunity to speak???

This proposal is a VAST improvement over the proposed use of the city draft Equity Policy. Think GM had no option, as a Mayor-appointed Dept Head, other than to try first to use that employee policy. We objected, Comm. Shaffer listened. Now we have work to do to set up OUR OWN EQUIVALENT.

From Commissioner Shaffer (link at end): "An updated draft code of conduct was presented to the Commission by Commissioner Vo-Ramirez and me at the meeting on February 2nd. The Commission voted to accept our draft for the purpose of getting comment from NCs, DONE, the NCAD unit and commissioners. If you want to discuss the most current draft code of conduct, please send out this link:"https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkesjwyfvvayu2s/Red-lined%20Draft%20Code%20of%20Conduct%202-2-22.pdf?dl=0

Agree with Glenn. The suspension for non taking/signing the CofC goes back to the original BONC policy. As noted earlier, that is DIFFERENT from a suspension for VIOLATIONS of the provisions of the Code of Conduct.

There will probably always be a great divide between people who want every NC to be cookie cutter identical and those of us who value and embrace our differences. Personally, I am all for differences in HOW we get things done, and believe that we all need to have the SAME values in the behaviors we need to encourage and enforce on our own turfs.

What Lydia is describing is the circular firing squad that (unfortunately) the mandatory censure provisions have only encouraged. (We could always censure, but if the tool is not in the bylaws, fewer people wanted to go pick up that gun.)

The penalties for ABUSING the censure process needs to be recognized. Too many are using the censure process against individuals based upon perceived political agendas. Those who abuse the process, who bring the censure against individuals should be held to the same level of violation and exposure as the accused.

The bylaws template should not become the way the city enforces standard bylaws. I strongly oppose the tendency to make the bylaws template a rule book instead of a thoughtful and probably wise suggestion PLUS several elements that are required by ordinance, etc.

Agree with Tony.

Problem with Bylaws template is 2020 which is reflected in most current bylaws , 2022 is more or less OK ...

Kathleen, censures are not solving the problem at all and if you revisit all of the previous ones they are mostly about bullying and has nothing to do with politics at all. censure is a relief for injustice.

Agree with Tony

Abuses of the Censure process are quite prevalent, and have less to do with “bullying,” than what you may be aware of or experiencing in your NC.

Personally, I have never seen a successful censure (successful meaning that it did not create even more drama than was there before it happened). My objection to rush to censure is that I don't think it is an effective tool. Censures tend to divide boards and have people line up on 'sides' when everyone should be on the save 'civility' side.

Right on the dot Tony. It is a big mess now in many NCs as it stands.

Honestly, Chris, I don't think there is anything we can do about 'unfriendly' communications. This is not a church society.

This amendment allows INDIVIDUAL board members to be falsely accused by anyone, anonymously, in order to further their intent to have that board member removed to eliminate debate or obstruction of their personal political agendas.

Let me pay devil's advocate. Whose fault is it if I get "triggered" by a public comment? (I think mine.)

Censure and removal are LEGISLATIVE acts. In themselvs that indicates we are not employees.

The proposed wording appears to be vague as it relates to continuing (re-elected) Board members. There should be NO grace period for them. Here is the proposed relevant wording: Newly elected, selected, appointed, or re-elected Neighborhood Council BoardMembers and Committee Members shall have a grace period of 30 days from the date theboard member or committee member begins assumingtheir duties and responsibilities tocomply with this policy as indicated in Item #1.

"purports to be acting or appears tobe acting in their official capacity as a Board or committee member; or when interactingwith City employees, contractors, and Neighborhood Council Board Members,Committee Members, and volunteers."

if you say something that offends a department ythat they find offensive you gone

I think we should all develop our own opinions on what Glenn is suggesting. We may not all want to have the NC Board become the executioner on behalf of DONE or BONC, which is what I *think* Glenn may be suggesting.

the Board is elected by the people, GM nor BONC is in no way accountable, that's the difference

Since I love creating trouble, I don't see why you guys can't just go ahead with putting a censure motion on an egenda and see what happes. WHAY WAIT FOR PERMISSION?

and my point is made

Raquel is not being courteous either

Isn’t BONC voting on this next month???

As a VANC participant, I strongly agree with the General Manager.

he made a comment about lack of efficacy of a department

Who's the executioner? The NC boards need the right tools, badly worded bylaws are not helpful. Plus if the city Council wants something to be mandatory they should just say so, and put it in an ordinance. A vaguely worded thing that NC members should be trained on something and then tell DONE to figure out how to make it mandatory is just bizarre.

Personal view is we can all talk about all the things that some current social justice folks take strongly as long as our co0mments are respectful and do not personally attack others who may have different opinions.

That BONC meeting is Monday, March 21 is at 1:00 p.m.

If DONE responded quickly, and/or the City attorney, perhaps people would trust them to effectively and fairly be trusted to judge what is an actual violation. Without that, the bar should be high for judging what is or isn’t a violation worthy of immediate suspension under this Amendment: Threats of violence and/or bodily harm with the credible proof, thereof. Aside from that, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me.”

When someone files a complaint with the DFEH they can obtain a right to sue letter and hire a lawyer.

DFEH = California Department of Fair Employment and Housing

Thanks Glenn

Are we going to vote to submit a CIS to BONC affirming the ad Hoc suggested amendment to the COC that Len Schaffer submitted?

In RE: Conduct of Conduct(s) People should exhaust their administrative remedies before proceeding. The problem is that there is not a published procedure as how to do so and maintain the peace.

The non-profit is talking about the airport as an air pollution source, and IGNORING THE FRE%EWAY

Only NCs may file a CIS....VANC may send a letter

*ALL* of us can file a PUBLIC COMMENT on the appropriate Council File. Same effect as a CIS from an NC. Would be great to get LOTS of them.

Whiteman CF = Council File 20-1538

The committee formed a group of pre-selected advocates. It is hardle non-partisan.

Pat will vote for Encino

Need to put my little one to bed. Thanks everyone. Look forward to continuing dialogue.