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Valley Alliance of Neighborhood Councils (VANC) Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Robert Rouge
23:11
Hello...I'm also from Arleta...Arleta was once "The Beverly Hills of Pacoima"
Glenn Bailey
23:46
Send to VANC@EmpowerLA.org
Jeffrey Mausner
27:27
Hi Everyone, I hope you’re doing well. If you missed the Animal Welfare workshop at the Congress of Neighborhoods on September 25th (it was at 8:00 in the morning on a Saturday), you can see it here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hvB2yI_ZHQ&list=PLKzMjIllOij1bsOaBcOHYx0aAspfOOzBv&index=19The workshop is entitled “What Neighborhood Councils Have Done and Can Do Regarding Animal Welfare.” It features Councilman Bob Blumenfield and Dana Stangel, with me as moderator.The written materials for the workshop are here: https://www.tarzananc.org/ncfiles/viewCommitteeFile/23491There is extensive discussion of the role of VANC in promoting animal welfare, in both the video of the workshop and in the written materials. Thank you all for your support for the animals!Best regards, Jeff
Glenn Bailey
31:00
Here is a link to tonight's VANC meeting agenda: http://www.lancc.org/resources/VANC%20agenda%202021.10.14.pdf
Robert Rouge
51:17
Council Districts & the City of Los AngelesThe City of LA is divided up into 15 council districts composed of multiple neighborhoods and each containing approximately between 200,000-300,000 residents.City of LA Overview — LA 101 Guide to Government and ...https://www.la101.guide › city-of-la-overview
Myrra Bolla
54:22
Mayor is busy packing
Tony Wilkinson
56:26
We also have the demonstrated result of the 'defund the police' movement -- nationwide -- of huge increases in urban gun violence and other violent crime in 2020 ans 2021. Police stand back, prosecutors don't prosecute, Criminals see there are few consequences and run wild.
Robert Rouge
01:01:30
Sec. 204. Election of City Council Members; Redistricting....Districts so formed shall each contain, as nearly as practicable, equal portions of the total population of the City as shown by the Federal Census immediately preceding the formation of districts....(d) Criteria for Redistricting. All districts shall be drawn in conformance with requirements of state and federal law and, to the extent feasible, shall keep neighborhoods and communities intact, utilize natural boundaries or street lines, and be geographically compact.
Cheri Derohanian
01:02:50
I totally agree with Jill and Mike B--YOU NEED TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THEM
CHRIS ROWE
01:02:50
I have an issue related to Neighborhood Council meetings and calling Special Meetings on a regular basis with what I consider inadequate notice to stakeholders. Is there a rule on posting agendas in time to get agendas out on time through the ENS?
Tony Wilkinson
01:02:56
All of the successful advocacy groups (environmental, bike rider) have unlimited persistence. Scott is right. WE do lots of complaining but then say it isn't worth it because no one listened the first time we asked. That's not how civics works. They will only listen to you when they realize that YOU ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
Tony Wilkinson
01:04:50
What Jill is talking about is why I suggested that if VANC takes a position, many NC leaders AS INDIVIDUALS (but indicating their NC for indentification) write supporting messages for t7he VANC action. What Corine is saying. We don't need to whole Board, only a few who agree with the VANC action.
Tony Wilkinson
01:05:15
Corinne
Cheri Derohanian
01:09:19
Jill, Mike B are spot-on... if we pick up the phone, call whatever elected official we need to, talk to their filed staff, WE GETT MUCH BETTER RESULTS. Time and time again this has been proven correct.
Tony Wilkinson
01:09:30
We also should not feel low on the system because of the BIG CITYWIDE issues we seem to have no influence on. We have many local wins that count. In Panorama City we are having great progress working with Nury Martinez to get sudwalks on Woodman Avenue North from Roscoe. Waiting now for federal funds through Tony Cardenas. District Director often attends our meetings and stays to end. Meanwhile, across the street, Arleta NC is having a war with the same councilmember and says that she ignores them.
Robert Rouge
01:11:16
https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/los_angeles/latest/laac/0-0-0-406#JD_Ch204.
CHRIS ROWE
01:11:47
Our Police resources are taken from the Valley to go downtown for various issues.
Kathleen Edwards
01:14:07
The City does NOT HAVE and DID NOT the social workers to take over the duties that the Police were doing...it was another “feel good,” lean to the social activists, without the resources to do so.
John and Michele Hales: Northridge South
01:14:34
The Save Balboa and Devonshire Group has gotten Council District 12 to help with the unhoused situation there. It’s not perfect, but that corner has improved greatly. This group has meetings once a month on Zoom and it has support from many city agencies and the county including Sheriff Villanueva. Council Member Lee attended once.
Margaret Shoemaker
01:15:47
I never said that Arleta is at war with Council District 6. My statement was regarding Community Impact Statements. Arleta has always worked well with our CD 6 representative, Lorena Bernal. The ANC has partnered multiple times with CD 6 on community beautification and we continue to communicate with them on issues concerning our community. Our concern is with the votes taken at City Hall that affects us.
Tony Wilkinson
01:17:30
For Jeffrey, it is futile to fight with the "true believers". The current social justice movement has deep political roots in the universities. In a society that has forgotten religion, the young people who support the "defund" movement and racial conflict theories have adopted the social justice movement as their religion substitute. You will never reach true believers with logic. Their philosophy hold that all logic and reason, even science, only represents the power on white men to assert those rules. Their objective is to destroy existing systems. It is NOT a debate over rationality of the defund movement. Normal people are terrified of standing up and calling out the truth.
Myrra Bolla
01:20:37
where they sell dog meat?
Tony Wilkinson
01:20:56
Many Asian countries, notably Korea.
Tony Wilkinson
01:21:42
The process of slaughter is also terribly inhumane. Deliberate stress on the animals before killing to "make the meat taste better".
Tony Wilkinson
01:22:53
Toni Atkins would be my vote. I hear she is brutally vindictive.
Corinne Ho
01:23:37
Thank you Jeffrey for your work!
Myrra Bolla
01:24:02
I would not be surprised if it also somewhere in our markets.
Tony Wilkinson
01:26:07
I have been asking both United Neighbors and Livable California to do just what Jill is asking -- put all of the state legislators who did NOT vote NO on SB9 and SB10 on a target list (including No Vote Recorded, NVRs).
Corinne Ho
01:26:19
We should all have the 'Mike Syndrome'
Cheri Derohanian
01:29:19
Does anyone know the cell phone number of Senator Stern's Field Director, Jeremy Wolf? I lost my iPhone 2 days ago with all contact numbers or I would be calling Jeremy to see if Sen Stern is actually coming tonight.
CHRIS ROWE
01:30:22
I think that some Neighborhood Councils are more receptive to stakeholder voices than others. And some NCs are more effective than others - some function better than others.
Cheri Derohanian
01:32:24
Chris -- so true. In my experience we need to build a good rapore with our respective Council member -- whether or not we agree with their view/track record...at least we have the ear of the City Council member.
Tony Wilkinson
01:34:30
One of our challenges is UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. (1) We *CAN* affect LOCAL issues if we play our cards right. (Stopping development not included in that.) (2) We often speak in an echo chamber like this and do not realize that WE are NOT in the majority. For example, the entire county voter base voted for Gascon for District Attorney.) (3) We don't have the understanding about how to play the insider game, not the tenacity to KEEP GOING after we are initially rejected.
CHRIS ROWE
01:35:47
This is why Redistricting is so important. In my opinion, Redistricting should not be about who your Councilmember is now - it is about what your "Community of Interest is". When an NC takes a position on Redistricting without outreach to the whole community that they represent, then it becomes just their voices v the residents. This is why I have a problem with NCs having seats that are not residents only.
Tony Wilkinson
01:37:08
The reality is that VANC is NOT a substitute for the votes of Neighborhood Councils. We do NOT speak for 34 Neighborhoods. We are a pressure group composed on Neighborhood Council leaders. That is NOT the same a the official spokes-group for all 34 city agencies.
Tony Wilkinson
01:38:40
STILL IS!!!!
CHRIS ROWE
01:41:19
I have spoken to one reporter for the Daily News, and I feel that reporter is getting misinformation on a number of issues. I have written for the Daily News back around 2007 - 2008 when Ron Kaye was the Editor there. It is not the same publication that it used to be.
Myrra Bolla
01:42:56
in some council, the information not distributed to Board members. Please send to all BOARD MEMBERS!
monica Vacas
01:44:24
We have already submitted a CIS from our Board, are you asking to do this again?
monica Vacas
01:45:11
Can you tell me where we are on the agenda items for this evening?
Tony Wilkinson
01:45:54
Monica, this is a request for INDIVIDUAL letters / messages of support for the VANC action. As noted earlier in this meeting, submitting a CIS by itself is INVISIBLE, from a practical politics standpoint.
Tony Wilkinson
01:50:11
Being a cool block leader sure sound to me like free volunteer work on behalf of the Mayor's agenda, rather than for local issues WE may choose. The 'cost' to volunteer for this position is significant. Doubt that many of us who are already over-committed will volunteer to be a cool block leader. If you can find true believer youth to volunteer, great. Just trying to be practical about getting the volunteers. Lisa NCSA would probably be best at getting volunteers.
Corinne Ho
01:50:54
Thank you Mike!
Robert Rouge
01:51:50
Good subjects and topics youall, BUT, shouldn't we be focusing on redistricting tonight???
CHRIS ROWE
01:52:26
I agree with Mike.
Tony Wilkinson
01:52:54
Who gets the #1 million, who decides how it will be used, and what are the limits of the use?
Heath Kline
01:53:09
A too agree with Mike, we must talk about redistricting, then time permitting we can circle bacl
Tony Wilkinson
01:53:17
$1million
Lisa Hart
01:53:32
https://www.ncsa.la/cool_blocks_la
Kathleen Edwards
01:54:14
Environmentalists used to talk on overpopulation being a strain on our natural resources. Not any more, as it seems to go against political agendas. What is your take on this, Lisa and Mike?
Myrra Bolla
01:54:17
I read that climate will change due to the Japan's earthquake and Indonesian tsunami because the axis of earth tilted by almost 6 inches or maybe more. Therefore Northern states will warm up, while countries below equator most probably will get even colder. Especially in Antarctica
Heath Kline
01:55:33
Correction: We must deal with Redistricting tonight, then circle back to other topics.
Robert Rouge
01:55:56
replace Aliso Canyon with human flatulence LOL
Tony Wilkinson
01:56:18
In my mother's era (1920s and 1930s) the world was coming to the end of its ability to FEED the world population. The disaster did not come to pass. Same will be true with global warming. It's already happened. Will cost us trillions. We should do our best to mitigate it, worldwide. Civilization will continue.
CHRIS ROWE
01:57:21
I have written articles on the AQMD for CityWatch.
Susan Collins
01:57:29
Thank you Chris! Great comments!
CHRIS ROWE
01:58:22
I would like Jeffrey Brown's contact information please.
Tony Wilkinson
01:59:07
And we still have southern Californians pressuring us NOT to do a Bay Delta Fix, which is the only way we can assure our water supply. Even with recycling ALL of the wastewater from Hyperion, we cannot survive without the water from the Bay Delta.
Lisa Hart
02:00:27
Please do help with outreach if you can! And feel free to email me at lisahart@ncsa.la or call me at 323.660.2780
Tony Wilkinson
02:01:06
Closing Aliso Canyon is indeed making natural gas use in the Valley impractical. Where else are you going to put the supply?
Tony Wilkinson
02:13:03
The effort to make the KOREAN community "whole" in downtown, IS being treated as the objective by redistricting, rather than the traditional neighborhoods.
Myrra Bolla
02:14:39
their focus in getting as many young minorities, who age-vice are eligible to vote, in each area.
Tony Wilkinson
02:15:30
The folks in Agoura Hills don't even have or use their 'wire' anymore. Whoever is making this argument is out of touch.
CHRIS ROWE
02:16:14
I reference map 57666 in my article on the top of this string.
CHRIS ROWE
02:16:33
https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/neighborhood-politics-hidden/22774-message-to-the-la-city-council-redistricting-commission-keep-us-whole
CHRIS ROWE
02:17:14
"Keep Us Whole". Keep us "Contiguous, Compact, Communities of Interest"
Corinne Ho
02:21:39
This is a decision that's going to affect us for the next 10 years.
Tony Wilkinson
02:22:44
The whole 57666 issue is NOT a single map. At the TOP of the article is the BAD 57666 with the center island map for Paul Krekorian. At the END of the City Watch article is the proposed COMMUNITY VERSION of 57666, which Heath is arguing for. scroll down to see the MUCH BETTER (my opinion) community version of the map.
Asaad Alnajjar
02:24:05
Map at https://www.citywatchla.com/images/stories/Oct-2021/082m.png
Tony Wilkinson
02:26:01
The good think is that the proposed community version of the map STILL probably assures that Nithya will not be reelected. She loses East Hollywood (lots of supporters) and gets more hostile Valley areas.
Tony Wilkinson
02:29:33
The map that got shown is the BAED map, NOT the good one. Scroll to the bottom of the CityWatch article tp see the GOOD map!!
Tony Wilkinson
02:29:41
the BAD map
Jeffrey Brown
02:31:42
Is there a link to these maps?
Tony Wilkinson
02:33:32
In the chat there are two links. SAVE THE CHAT (three littke dots, bopttom right). Fist link is to the CityWatch article with the BAD map on top and the GOOD map (proposal) at the end. The second link is to ONLY the GOOD map.
Tony Wilkinson
02:35:07
Tony supports the new map proposal. therefore "everyone" supports the new proposed map. :))
Corinne Ho
02:35:18
this map has already been submitted before
Tony Wilkinson
02:35:47
The proposal for an "island" district in the center of the Valley is just dumb. Is no such "community" there.
Robert Rouge
02:36:06
(d) Criteria for Redistricting. All districts shall be drawn in conformance with requirements of state and federal law and, to the extent feasible, shall keep neighborhoods and communities intact, utilize natural boundaries or street lines, and be geographically compact......https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/los_angeles/latest/laac/0-0-0-406#JD_Ch204.
Corinne Ho
02:37:24
this "Island" district in the center of the Valley is the concern we have. This #57666 has already been submitted before.
Glenn Bailey
02:38:15
Instead of 2 or 4, why not push for CD 3???
Corinne Ho
02:39:00
We could ask for the moon but we have to be all UNITED to ask for the moon.
Tony Wilkinson
02:39:03
The NEW proposed map solves the problems. No island district, keeps West Valley together, AND assures that Nithya (who has the overlap with Hollywood District) will NOT be reelected because she loses her East Hollywood base.
CHRIS ROWE
02:40:09
I believe that the new District will require a Special Election next year because the CD 2 or CD 4 Councilmember will not live in the District.
Jamie York
02:40:29
It won’t chris. They can finish out the term without moving
Tony Wilkinson
02:40:35
Too bad. They need to move.
Corinne Ho
02:41:21
Thanks so much to VANC for facilitating this conversation that was so much needed though knowing that there is a time restraint. This is the topic of everyone's mind right now in the Valley.
Jamie York
02:41:25
We have no assets!
Jamie York
02:41:44
How is this supposed to be an opportunity zone when there are no assets
Jamie York
02:42:02
We already are park poor
Heath Kline
02:42:03
Simple solution for basin: give Everything South of Burbank to Encino and North of Burbank or the River to Lake Balboa. Its a regional resource.
Corinne Ho
02:42:21
2- or 4 does not have any assets.
Tony Wilkinson
02:42:33
Pacoima has no assets and is an opportunity zone. (We in Panorama City wonder why WE are not an opportunity zone.)
CHRIS ROWE
02:42:42
Reseda has Reseda Park and they have been working on revitalization at Sherman Way in Reseda. My son went to Reseda High, and I lived in Reseda in the past, so I know the area very well.
Glenn Bailey
02:43:15
The Sepulveda Basin was created as a flood control dam and the land is owned by the federal Army Corps of Engineers.
Jamie York
02:43:22
Chris I suggest you look at the parks needs assessment study by the county
Jamie York
02:43:38
We have near 80000 residents using those two small parks
Tony Wilkinson
02:45:05
Rather than declaring what the city redistricting commission will or will not do, suggest people go the Council President and explain why the new proposal (without the island district) is in her and the city's interest. That message will magically get back to the redistricting commission.
LEE
02:46:41
thanks for trying to split my District in Encino in half, your burbank idea is ludicrous. Encino wants to stay together. my residents are tired of crime and evac orders bc nury only shows up for photo ops
CHRIS ROWE
02:46:54
80% of the Chatsworth Nature Preserve is in West Hills per the NC maps. Judi - you know that. I took you there with the LADWP about a decade ago with the WHNC.
Heath Kline
02:47:12
Not True everything north of Roscoe accessed residential should stay in CD12
LEE
02:47:23
long live Camelot
Heath Kline
02:47:41
We in south valley acknowledge the preserve belongs in 12!
Glenn Bailey
02:49:25
Code of Conduct Policy Workshops being held Tuesday, Oct. 19 at 6:30 pm and Saturday, Nov. 6 at 1 pm. Please try to attend one if you haven't already done so
Heath Kline
02:49:39
GARY, we support you and the N Valley
CHRIS ROWE
02:50:00
Heath - 80% of the Chatsworth Nature Preserve is in the West Hills NC's boundaries. This came up when the LAFD went to Chatsworth about the helipad. Chatsworth said the helipad was in the West Hills portion, and we voted to support it. The helipad access is through West Hills.
Heath Kline
02:51:23
Thats wrong. It should go to CD-12. The people who live between Roscoe and the preserve should stay in West Hills unless they feel otherwise.
Jeffrey Mausner
02:52:06
Just to let everyone know, there is a very severe outbreak of Upper Resperatory Infection, kennel cough, among the dogs at the West Valley Shelter, the worst outbreak I’ve ever seen. So be careful if you go there.
Cindy Cleghorn
02:53:17
Thank you Kathleen !
Myrra Bolla
02:53:34
this is a way to control people in city council
Tony Wilkinson
02:54:02
And beware of all of the REVISIONS (deletions) that Raquel Beltran made in the original Code of Conduct proposal. They all APPEAR to be "improvements". BEWARE that every one of the objectionable sections that were removed can COME BACK under DONE's power under the Plan for Neighborhood Councils.
Robert Rouge
02:54:04
WHAT ABOUT THE CODE OF CIVILITY? SHOULDNT BOTH CODE OF'S BE DISCUSSED?
Corinne Ho
02:54:35
Thank you Kathleen Edwards for bringing that up.
Tony Wilkinson
02:57:45
Look, let's not beat around the bush. The city, under the current administration, is TOTALLY under the spell of the current Social Justice movement. Our challenge is how to keep those politics from doing much damage until the inevitable rise of common sense average people rising up to do away with these new impractical and divisive theories.
CHRIS ROWE
02:58:02
Heath Kline - Your NC is divided into areas. The WHNC is all open seats. A number of the WHNC Board members live north of Roscoe, and they control the greater population to the South of Roscoe. Since most residents are not engaged in Redistricting - there is no real outreach, most of West Hills has no voice in the WHNC's vote on the Redistricting issue.