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Wales Local Doughnut Workshop Series - Session 1 - Speaker view
Cherrie Bija
12:55
Hi - Cherrie from Faith in Families in Swansea and Brecon
Hayley
12:55
Hayley from Pontypridd - hello everyone, lovely to see you all
Aoife Blight
12:56
Hi I’m Aoife and I’m in Barry
Andrew Capel TripTo CarClubs
13:00
Andrew Capel from Llanidloes
Ben - Yr Orsaf
13:03
Ben, Yr Orsaf-Siop Griffiths, Penygroes
Mary Sherwood: Fairer Future
13:10
Good evening from Swansea
Sian Jones- WeAll
13:13
Sian Jones From Swansea- a WeAll volunteer
James Langridge-Thomas
13:17
Hi, I'm James Langridge-Thomas from Builth Wells :)
mair jones
13:24
Hia noswaith dda Mair Dinbych / Denbigh
Dawn Davies
13:28
I am Dawn Davies, coordinator for Renew Wales covering Bridgend, RCT and NPT
jo.hendy
13:30
Hi, I'm Jo from Pembrokeshire
Helen Lucocq
13:35
Hello everyone, Helen representing the Brecon Beacons but living outside in Ystradgynlais
Amy Greenfield [Awesome Wales]
13:36
Hi Everyone, I'm in Barry, Vale of Glamorgan
caitlyn
13:36
Caitlyn, WEALL volunteer, Swansea
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
13:42
Hello everyone I’m Stephen, a WEAll Cymru member based in Llanarth Monmouthshire
Alwen Williams - Ambition North Wales
13:42
Alwen Williams, work for Ambition North Wales joining from Yr Wuddgrug/Mold, North Wales
Kate Hawkins
13:54
Kate from Fishguard, a new ish member of Transition Bro Gwaun
ninafinnigan
14:02
Hi everyone. Great to be here. I'm Nina working in Ynysboeth RCT. I'm a coordinator for a loneliness and isolation project and mentor for Renew Wales.
Richard Luff, Black Mountains College, Talgarth
14:15
Greeting. Richard. Talgarth (from tomorrow) as part of Black Mountains College)
XR Cymru Political Engagement
14:31
Marcus Bailie - South Wales Valleys. WEAll Cymru/Wales member
Gethin Rhys Cytun Eglwysi Ynghyd
15:00
Noswaith dda. Gethin Rhys from Cytun (Eglwysi ynghyd yng Nghymru/Churches together in Wales). I live in Cardiff but here to provide information to member churches across Wales.
Kate Tiernan
16:07
Kate Tiernan here from Summit Good CIC in Dunvant but living in Burry Port
Debby Cobbett
17:53
Debby in Yorkshire hoping to learn from you
Jon Buckland
18:46
Jon in Guernsey, like Debby - so pleased to be on this learning journey - thank you for organising this!
Andrew Capel TripTo CarClubs
29:09
This reminds me of the Transition Network, https://transitionnetwork.org/
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
39:25
to Sarah Thomas contact me at margot.greer@ntlworld.com
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
39:26
Sorry Sian, Mair, Gethin - pressed the wrong button and left!
Mary Sherwood: Fairer Future
39:46
Apologies to my group too for the dodgy connection!
Caitlyn (WEALL/ YCA)
42:16
Thank you Dawn! Great to discuss!
Dawn Davies
43:11
Dawn.davies@timecentres.co.uk
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
43:28
LOCAL is where people have some power
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
43:43
Getting people to use the power they have more effectively
James Langridge-Thomas
44:18
I love that expression ...
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
45:10
Feelings that we want to DO something
Alwen Williams - Ambition North Wales
45:50
Congrats on finishing your Masters Rachel
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
47:00
More positive and empowered stories
Aoife Blight
47:35
Brilliant stuff Rachel. What a great way to engage.
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
47:42
Current work feels too TOP DOWN not community led
Rachel Knox
49:36
For a storyteller that wasn’t terribly articulate sorry😂 but if anyone wants to know more or see the stories just email me Rachel.knox@outlook.com or see biosphere designs on Instagram
Rhiannon Raftery
49:36
Flatpack democracy is useful for imcreasing local democrac- the independent group in Frome Peter Macfadyen is the source
Rachel Knox
52:14
Dawn Lyle, rob Hopkins wrote about it, “the importance of just doing something “
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
52:16
andrew - good to hear about the car club. we need that for e-vehicles
Debby Cobbett
52:36
Andrew can you share more about car clubs? Where I live the posher folk have put solar panels on their roofs and now want charging points and think I;m bonkers for talking about other ways of travel and sharing just a few cars
Jon Buckland
53:01
Well done Aofie
Andrew Capel TripTo CarClubs
53:06
Thank you Margot, yes we do have ev too
Rhiannon Raftery
53:19
stories are really impotant especially in communicating to diverse audiences about climate and all the crises we are facing.
Andrew Capel TripTo CarClubs
54:10
I can talk for a long time about car clubs, have a look at www.tripto.org.uk and www.llanicarclub.co.uk
Jon Buckland
54:22
Exactly - we have to go beyond preaching to the converted
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
54:40
Thanks Andrew, I will
Debby Cobbett
54:54
ta Andrew
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
54:56
well done Aoife - I’m standing in Abergavenny as a green too - happy to chat
Aoife Blight
55:30
Thanks Stephen. Yes lets connect!
Rhiannon Raftery
56:26
engaging and converting for want of a bette word is probably the hardest and most important action we need to take a focus e.g food because everybody eats is useful
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
56:48
Kate and I met in a women’s shed at a local CSA farm - great networking and support place
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
57:00
Asking the right QUESTIONS!!
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
57:13
Success looks like.... lots of people sharing their opinions!
Jon Buckland
57:21
I would really like help to use the four lens in a local context. I ran an eight week course on creating a wellbeing economy - through a charity organisation. It was based on WeALL / Kate’s work / Tim Jackson - Post Growth / DEAL etc - I came up with the content each week shaped to the discussions which took place. One week was the four lens but I would love some training on how to use it.
Rhiannon Raftery
57:47
Margot women's shed sounds good I've heard of the Menns ones be interested to know more.
Kate Tiernan
58:25
https://www.dosummitgood.co.uk/indexdo
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
58:51
Rhiannon - the women’s shed is at Summit Good near Swansea. there is a website with contact details
Rhiannon Raftery
59:12
thanks Margot
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
59:27
and see Kate’s link
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
59:42
Food can be a great point of connection
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:00:16
Jon Buckland - maybe you could join Welbeing Economy Wales and come and help us
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:02:10
Aoife - do you know Stephen Priestnall here tonight? he is also running for Greens
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:02:23
Jon B would be good to get your views on developing wellbeing economy index… we have ongoing plans if you’re interested
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:03:06
Thanks Margot Aoife and I are connecting!
Jon Buckland
01:03:11
My mum is an Evans so half Welsh! V happy to share the material I used if anyone wants to use it - we need to mobilise our communities and spread the message. Four of those on the course thought they had signed up to a wellbeing course - but they stayed for the full eight weeks! It was interactive and discursive - not a stale, pale male talking at them ( I can say that as a pale, male!)
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:04:06
*existing networks, people we've met through various activities
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:05:05
Hayley’s networking sounds like building a mycorrhizal network, as in Finding the Mother Tree
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:05:16
*12-15 people in an initial conversation
ninafinnigan
01:05:33
It would be really good to connect Hayley. ninafinnigan@bryncynonstrategy.org.uk / 07719621997
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:06:05
Civic Square in Birmingham > creative approaches
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:07:29
Miro board
Debby Cobbett
01:08:26
Another technique is going for a walk with post it notes and stopping now and then for people to scribble on the notes and post them for the facilitators to share later
Sian Jones- WeAll
01:08:30
what is Miro?
Jon Buckland
01:08:32
Training on how to use tech would be good!
Kate Tiernan
01:09:03
https://miro.com/?utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dcpc%26utm_campaign%3DS|GOO|BRN|UK|EN-EN|Brand|Exact%26utm_adgroup=%26utm_custom%3D14921046688%26utm_content%3D552241369403%26utm_term%3Dmiro%20board%26matchtype=e%26device=c%26location=9045888&gclid=Cj0KCQiAuP-OBhDqARIsAD4XHpfxUkTFPuAIcjkm5piNapukeKQhRqKbCeo271HL8ii4apk0OzQuAMIaAuVXEALw_wcB
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:09:18
It’s a virtual whiteboard for workshops Sian
Richard Luff, Black Mountains College, Talgarth
01:10:51
Though theoretical at one level, I am wondering about relationship of WBFG, Doughnut and WeAll and their respective frameworks. Its helpful so everyone can see how it all work together rather than confuse people or contradict. Of course there are other processes such as Bioregional, Transition network stuff and citizens assemblies. So bit of a question here about coordination, coherence and as people have limited amount of time they cant be going to multiple parallel forums. Something to think about perhaps?
Jon Buckland
01:11:42
This is great and would love help in learning how to use this - the groups chose energy and transport as topics to apply the lens
Alwen Williams - Ambition North Wales
01:13:11
Hayley - I think you underestimate your tech ability. That looked like a great set of data collected using Miro
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:13:33
i bet you learned a lot by learning Miro together
Jon Buckland
01:13:45
Brilliant!
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:13:45
It’s an important thought for us at WEAll Richard. Trying to get everyone on the same page with parallel great intentions is a challenge!
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:17:46
What is the starting point
Rhiannon Raftery
01:18:38
Just do it make a start Hayley thanks
Jon Buckland
01:19:00
Definitely Alwen - and Rhiannon - just do it and learn and improve
Rhiannon Raftery
01:19:55
Agree Jon an imperfect something is better than a perfect nothing you can always improv and change
Mary Sherwood: Fairer Future
01:20:58
Anyone thinking of going into politics please contact me for a frank discussion about the potential for burn-out and frustration in a system forged in and of the very problems we're all now trying to address, so you can really give informed attention to thoughts about where you want to use your energy. THANKS.
Jane Henshaw
01:21:09
Im a councillor in Cardiff. Really enthusiastic about Doughnut Economics. I suspect it will become the norm in the future, as we respond to a Carbon Neutral future.
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:21:10
"We're not waiting for politicians, we are developing our own vision / plan - involving everyone we can find - so politicians will have to take notice. But its also about what WE can do."
Mary Sherwood: Fairer Future
01:21:29
Hi Jane!!! <3
Jane Henshaw
01:23:50
Hi Mary
Rhiannon Raftery
01:24:24
Yes definitely recommend watching the recording of Helen's presentation
James Langridge-Thomas
01:24:27
I really like your use of the doughnut in the BBNP plans Helen, part of my inspiration within PCC :-)
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:24:33
https://wellbeingeconomy.wales/local-doughnuts/ here is the recording
Jon Buckland
01:24:42
Thanks Margot!
Kate Tiernan
01:28:02
https://www.consultationinstitute.org/members/knowledgebase/toolkits-strategies-codes/page/2/
Jon Buckland
01:28:07
Focus on young people and make sure they register and vote
Kate Tiernan
01:28:22
some useful links here about consultation and engagement toolkits
Jon Buckland
01:28:56
Kate - will the chat be shared afterwards - so many great links
Rhiannon Raftery
01:29:37
Agree with Hayley our crises are interconnected and Doughnut makes it easier and visual to look at the whole picture joined up- connected
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:31:12
https://wellbeingeconomy.wales this is our working website for Wellbeing Economy Wales.
Dawn Davies
01:31:19
Hearing about peoples direct experience would be useful for me
Ben - Yr Orsaf
01:31:27
Mae rhaid i mi fynd - diddorol iawn - diolch yn fawr - edrych ymlaen i'r un nesaf/Have to go - many thanks - look forward to the next one - this time in the evenings is fine for me. Ben, Penygroes.
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:31:30
In our chat earlier there was another request for connections - how to connect back with attendees - especially in close geographies
Rachel Knox
01:32:00
How can we bring our ideas to the wider community
Rachel Knox
01:32:36
Can we work together to create events with activities and community action
Sarah.Thomas
01:32:51
I appreciate the examples and would welcome the opportunity to co-create an ideas toolkit
Kate Hawkins
01:33:13
Early evening is good for me. Group sharing is important for insights. I would like to hear more on social justice issues too, I latched on to one person's point that social care is not working for people and maybe health is not either.
Rhiannon Raftery
01:33:16
Evening works for time for me breakouts are valuable People's experience of applying it is valuable
Rachel Knox
01:33:35
This time is good in the week as I’m cooking earlier
Jon Buckland
01:33:37
Agree with Rachel, plus learning from experiences and what is working and what isn’t (so we don’t make the same mistakes), plus communication training we need to spread the conversation. Evenings are good
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:34:07
Locations as a chat intro for everyone would be great
James Langridge-Thomas
01:34:13
Similarly Amy if not local, possibly similar demographics e.g. rural areas :)
Aoife Blight
01:34:23
This time in the evening is good for me or during the day also works for me.
Rhiannon Raftery
01:34:42
Mapping is important but very time consuming I tried to map initiatives across Wales and it's a huge task so if lots of people provide input even on something simple like google maps could b a valuable resource
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:34:45
Dummy's guide
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:35:05
there are some great short introductions to the Doughnut on the WEAll website
Rachel Knox
01:35:21
Amy, Maybe we need to tell them a story 😊
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:35:47
Short survey summary of attendees
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:35:51
Great idea
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:35:54
Online survey
Debby Cobbett
01:35:55
MAybe one of Kate's TED talks would help introduce people and follow with discussion - tonight's break-out time was helpful
Dawn Lyle, Wellbeing Economy Wales
01:36:01
https://forms.gle/DwoRHtakXh8jKnRJ6
Amy Greenfield [Awesome Wales]
01:36:12
Early evening is great for me. Obviously zoom is really convenient and safe right now. But some physical meetings would be excellent to share ideas for the extroverts and creative communications among us :)
Rhiannon Raftery
01:37:26
face to face would probably need to cover small areas Wales covers a big sparse areas and zoom is great fro bringing people tgether across wider areas mix and match
Margot Greer, WEAll Wales, in Swansea
01:37:44
true Rhiannon
Richard Luff, Black Mountains College, Talgarth
01:38:00
Re monitoring also good to link to SDGs where relevant!
Rachel Knox
01:39:35
Thanks all. Really interesting
James Langridge-Thomas
01:39:44
Absolutely - very interesting
Stephen Priestnall (WEAll Cymru)
01:39:45
Thank you everyone - really engaging and great stories
Debby Cobbett
01:39:50
yes and will search for Yorkshire WEALL
Kate Hawkins
01:39:52
Thanks Dawn and everyone
jo.hendy
01:39:57
Thank you, very interesting.
Richard Luff, Black Mountains College, Talgarth
01:40:05
Thank you so much.
Amy Greenfield [Awesome Wales]
01:40:07
Thank you everyone!
Jon Buckland
01:40:08
Thank you
Rhiannon Raftery
01:40:10
thanks Dawn
Caitlyn (WEAll/ YCA)
01:40:15
Thank you everyone! Great meeting
Amanda Smith CAT
01:40:16
Thank you, great session
Aoife Blight
01:40:16
Really enjoyed this workshop. Looking forward to the next one. Thanks for organising
Helen Lucocq
01:40:20
Happy to share my learning
Jane Henshaw
01:40:24
Thank you Dawn. V Interesting and encouraging.
Kate Tiernan
01:40:26
Thanks everyone great to meet you all
Cari Jones
01:40:28
Thank you Dawn