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COVID19 OSPI Guidance with Scott Raub - Shared screen with speaker view
Jay Chohan
22:52
TOPS K-8 8th Grade
Janis
22:57
I have kids at Garfield and Ingraham
Katie Weisend
22:58
Olympic Hills
Kate Harris
23:04
EEU - pre-K
Cherylynne Crowther
23:04
Roosevelt
Cindy Somers
23:10
Cindy Somers, Snohomish School District
Hodan M Special Ed Chair@SCPTSA
23:11
Rainier Beach
Dana Grant
23:16
Ellensburg
Heather Schwindt
23:17
Hamlin Robinson with and SPS service plan
Shawna Haller
23:18
we are in Onalaska Elementary school
Donna’s iPhone
23:24
Donna Erlandson Anacortes School District
Marcy
23:29
Hello! I have 2, 3rd graders at West Mercer in the Mercer Island School District
Noella Natalino
23:30
Genesee Hill Access program and Alki elementary.
Cheryl Jenrow
23:33
Hi I have one child at Salmon Bay K8 School
Jen T
23:33
Little Cedars Elementary in Snohomish School DIstrict
knelson39
23:40
Hi! Kristine Nelson - Sumner-Bonney Lake School District
KCL
23:42
NOVA
Yuki Sofronas
23:47
Lincoln High School, incoming 9th grader
Lori
23:56
Anacortes
Jacquie
24:03
Jacquie Van Patten-Teacher at John Muir Elementary
Marianne Bryan
24:12
West Woodland Elem / NPA @ YWA
Alki Mothership
24:22
Alki Elementary - Mel S
Rich C
24:37
Highline SD, Beverly Park Elementary
Jeremy
24:40
Olympic View
Julie Gunter
25:41
One full-time student at Eckstein, one part-time enrolled at Eckstein and Assumption St Bridget
Suzanne Bilesky
25:42
Suzanne Bilesky Para, Balboa Elementary Spokane Wa.
Sherry Mashburn
27:08
Sherry M Sunnyside SD
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
28:09
We will post presentation slides on our website
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
32:35
Here is the link to the presentation slide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/187p9UsVufrN7bzXaQUTfkH7eBr2v66zh/view?usp=sharing
Jacquie
35:46
Thank you for the link :)
Penny Willoughby
36:00
Aki Kurose, 6th grader
Julie Gunter
40:04
I would love to know if outdoor in-person education could ever be recommended, either for gen-ed or for SDI in small/group individualized formats.
Janis
42:53
What kind of training do you suggest that school districts should be providing for families of students who receive special education services?
Stacey Fischer
43:21
shouldn’t in person instructions requirements be determined by the parents instead of state? parents knows best what their students needs and how they benefit from in person setting, yes?
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
45:35
FAPE = Free Appropriate Public Education
Marianne Bryan
45:45
LRE question: If at home is all general education, then when is special education? I would think special education = primary SDI with special education teacher/assistant/specialist, general education = primary general education with classroom teacher. Is this correct?
Cheryl Jenrow
46:51
I second Marianne's question when will special ed happen?
Donna’s iPhone
49:05
how will progress be documented?
Rich C
49:37
If CLP (continuous learning plan) was NOT implemented during the Spring closure, are recovery services due to the student?
Marianne Bryan
49:48
This IEP implementation means General Education becomes special education minutes? That seems really far from reality.
Alki Mothership
50:16
I also had no CLP in play this spring. compensatory services.
Alki Mothership
50:17
?
Cheryl Jenrow
51:16
I agree Marianne it seems like Special ed min is really not going to happen it is lumped into gened.
Cheryl Jenrow
51:32
?
Noella Natalino
51:42
I have to run to another school meeting but I’m hoping that staff will be trained on how to get kids like mine to actually tolerate Teams meetings. right now he runs away or gets angry and hits me.
Janis
52:10
Is OSPI providing districts with technical assistance for how to provide push-in support or push-in SDI during general education? Is OSPI providing technical assistance to district with specific suggestions of how maintain inclusive settings for remote learning?
Marcy
54:14
If a school or district isn't following the OSPI guidelines what is the best way to bring that to OSPI's attention? Citizen's complaint or is there something more simple?
Heather Schwindt
55:14
Gen Ed, Small group targeted instruction sound like Tier 2. This can be part of a student's plan and noted in the IEP if needed. Often it is a gen ed service and would not be listed as SDI and in the service matrix.
Wendy Hirata
55:19
If the home setting is the general ed setting than most IEPs are not being followed unless the IEP states special education is to be done 100% in Gen Ed. ??? Our IEP states that my child is to have a 1-to1 para in the Gen Ed setting and to be trained. How is that to be fulfilled???
Alki Mothership
55:25
our Spring IEP Progress report from June had minimal comment related to goals. entries from teachers did not reflect the measurements mentioned in the IEP (8 out of 10 or a percentage) instead entries included vague observations like "most of the time" or "has improved a little" ..can you please advise how I would go about getting data that is clear and related to the goals we set so we can plan where to go from here
Alki Mothership
56:01
we also have a 1:1 push into gen ed in our IEP, how is that going to happen
Dana Grant
56:53
Will parents be compensated for becoming the in person educator? Data collection, training, etc?
Alki Mothership
01:00:02
direct insturction is differnet than 1:1
Alki Mothership
01:00:27
my son has a body next to him in gen ed so he can access curriculum
Alki Mothership
01:00:35
a para educator
Marcy
01:01:02
I think one challenge that parents and students are facing is that we aren't getting clear answers or guidance. Districts say they are waiting for guidance from OSPI, but Chris Reykel and others say that parents have to talk to their district or school because each district is responsible. The answer to every question seems to be, "it depends on the student, or situation," "The answer is individual, just like an IEP." How can we as parents know what our children are obligated to receive if there isn't a baseline to reference?
Hodan M Special Ed Chair@SCPTSA
01:01:35
In your powerpoint, so far you did not talk about families who have language barrier. What is the plan for getting information to them? Will this be discussed later?
Alki Mothership
01:02:05
thank you so much for being here scott, i apprciate you. but ugggh this is so frustrating no real answers
Cheryl Jenrow
01:02:21
My son had minutes in the resource room for extra support and work on goals. How is that going to happen in home/now the gened setting?
Alki Mothership
01:02:49
and get a lawyer or obsuds
Alki Mothership
01:03:06
ombuds
Jeremy
01:04:30
Our daughter is 7, non-verbal, and in focus. In person one on one service is the only type of learning that is effective. How can this support be given for kids where remote learning isn’t effective.
Rich C
01:04:41
Recovery Services: what is it, what does this look like, how/when/where can it be impemented?
Alki Mothership
01:05:26
thank you jana thank you
Alki Mothership
01:06:11
its a gap a BIG HUGE gap growing for most families...
Terrilynn’s iPhone
01:06:17
I’m very concerned about the amount of screen time being for all students, neurotypical and non neurotypical. When neuroscientist are talking, American Academy of Pediatrics and Association Optometrist. Nearsightedness has increased by 55% they say because of our screen time. What has been the climate at OSPI regarding this? My son has neuro and vision disabilities.
Terrilynn’s iPhone
01:07:18
Also, I have friends with children with both gen ed and special
Alki Mothership
01:07:21
no its not jappenoing
Marianne Bryan
01:07:50
Thanks Pam
Jacquie
01:07:51
Sounds good!
Jeremy
01:08:11
Thanks Pam …. This meeting could have easily been several hours of Q&A.
Jacquie
01:09:20
Does OSPI have any guidance for helping teachers schedule SDI during the the virtual school day? It's so different from in-person and I don't want my kids to miss general education learning opportunities.
Marianne Bryan
01:10:05
So, parents could get trained in how to provide evidence based methodology for SDI since we’re expected to provide SDI and track data for it?
Terrilynn’s iPhone
01:10:38
Ed students. Is there special consideration for these parents? Trying to motivate and monitor more than one student is hard. Can’t we just concentrate on the Three R’s so time is limited or is OSPI concerned about getting enough FTE’s or a law suit?
Lori
01:12:03
So when both parents are essential workers (medical) how are we to teach our special when we cannot be at home as we work the same hours that school is going on? My child can not get on the computer without some assistance, start his lessons on his own, make his lunch everyday etc. Our district states there is no outside resources to help us with one on one in our home. He needs to be in school for the social aspect alone and definitely the learning portion. Can't we sign waivers to allow us to put our children in school? What difference is there if I have to bring my child to my clinic vrs going to a school?
Holly Zenz
01:12:16
transition services that couldn’t take place due to Covid - like DVR and district graduated student. can families go back to the school to seek services?
Marcy
01:12:47
If a request has been made for an IEP evaluation, but the student has one or more recent private evaluations showing diagnosis and how they would be adversely affected by their disability, can and should the district implement an IEP without having to do a school evaluation since we are not in school and are avoiding in person contact?
Cheryl Jenrow
01:16:13
My son has co teaching in his IEP so technically it could still happen,Correct?
Alki Mothership
01:16:50
we should all have within the IEP who is responsible for collecting and reporting the data relating to any of the individual goals
Marcy
01:19:56
Scott, can you share any good examples of what some schools or districts are doing to modify services that seem to be meeting student needs? Are some districts sending services to peoples homes? Are some offering services remotely (similarly to private OT, SLP)? Using adaptive technology? If there are some districts that are doing things that are proving successful, is there a way that OSPI can share that information or recommendation for districts who seem to be struggling to come up with successful solutions?
Cherylynne Crowther
01:20:07
@Lori are you SPS? The agreement the teachers are voting on this weekend says the IEP team will determine the In-class. What's interesting is how does the parents' ability to be part of the "professional" staff will impact the placement issue?
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:21:09
Scott Michael RaubSpecial Education Parent & Community LiaisonOffice of Superintendent of Public Instruction (OSPI)Ph: 360-725-6075scott.raub@k12.wa.us
Rich C
01:25:16
If a CLP was not implemented last Spring during closure . . my school district Superintendent said the responsibility of the parent to notify them of this lack of service (as they do not track who is NOT receiving CLP).
Alki Mothership
01:25:46
rich, notify who? district, IEP team, principal/
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:26:07
Rich, can you share what school district this was?
Rich C
01:26:10
notify the district special needs superintendent
Rich C
01:26:18
Highline SD
Alki Mothership
01:26:27
thanks
Donna’s iPhone
01:31:15
what would be a valid reason for a student to have to wait for compensatory/recovery services?
Alki Mothership
01:33:34
i would imagine everyone's child has been negatively impacted and mostly all IEPs should be re evaluated and re assessed
Alki Mothership
01:35:25
has ombuds office contracted out with a third party to handle the flux of families asking for the services
Jacquie
01:35:32
Are special education teachers paid to plan and provide compensatory services?
Hodan M SCPTSA
01:35:51
Do you have the powerpoint in different languages? Thank you for your support
Jacquie
01:36:07
good question Janis!
Marianne Bryan
01:36:22
Are there any criteria from OSPI on how to determine recovery services or is it completely a local IEP team decision? What happens if there is no data on which to base decisions?
Heather Schwindt
01:36:40
Can a district arbitrarily decide to wait on all recovery services until classroom instruction resumes? Or is recovery services an IEP level decision?
Cheryl Jenrow
01:37:23
If recovery services are needed and it happens during the day. As a parent now repsonsible for teaching am I also doing the Recovery services or would that be more a seperate Zoom meeting with teacher?
Kelly Zenz
01:38:06
My child was a June graduate, although I am waiting for an IEP team meeting to request she be back in school for Transition Services. I am in the process of obtaining an outside EEA evaluation and Transition evaluation for this meeting. My question is that she did not receive her IEP minutes during Covid, she did not get services with DVR due to Covid, nor did she have a Continuous Learning Plan. So many issues are wrong how do I learn what Transition Services they can provide as they are not sharing that information with me?
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:41:31
When asking a question, please try to be succinct. Thank you!
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:42:34
Would attendance be part of data collection?
Alki Mothership
01:44:33
https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/bulletinsmemos/bulletins2020/B064-20_%20Emergency_Absence%20Rule_.pdf
Alki Mothership
01:44:46
OSPI guidance on attendance
Romel D. Mackelprang
01:46:05
Last Spring, the support we received from special ed was worksheets. So, we as parents had to spend many hours a day administering worksheets from special ed and worksheets from Gen Ed. It is not feasible for us to do this and our jobs, take care of our other children, etc. When virtual meetings were possible, we had to sit side by side with our son because he needs an IA to help him attend. How can we make sure we get that IA virtual support because we're going to lose our jobs if we have to go through the day sitting beside him, administering worksheets, essentially being the teacher? How do we ensure something better for the fall?
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:54:49
Updated guidance from OSPI on absence:https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/bulletinsmemos/bulletins2020/B064-20_%20Emergency_Absence%20Rule_.pdf
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:55:26
https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/bulletinsmemos/bulletins2020/B064-20_%20Emergency_Absence%20Rule_.pdf
Marianne Bryan
01:56:05
Data tracking — maybe PTSA can help develop some data collection tools. I have developed these for my children in the past. Here is a sample of what type of data I have tracked (duplicate/simplify as needed for specific time periods/synchronous learning, etc) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lvk24ukh3tpnbeJL8T0VIiTNcEjUbUkEH2czouXM0lc/edit?usp=sharing
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
01:56:14
SDI = Specifically Designed Instruction
Heather Schwindt
01:56:30
WSASP updated guidance: https://www.wsasp.org/resources/Documents/COVID-19/Revised%20WSASP%20Guidance%20for%20COVID-19%20Closure.pdf
Jacquie
01:56:51
Is evaluation testing not able to be conducted virtually? But progress monitoring data for any IEP goal is expected to be tested and collected? Am I understanding that correctly?
Pam Phillips
01:57:58
Thanks for sharing Marinne
Pam Phillips
01:58:08
Marianne*
Donna’s iPhone
01:59:30
can we somehow make sure that everyone has a chance to speak?
Heather Schwindt
02:00:31
Some nationally normed standardized tests are not considered valid administered remotely. These are what are often used for evaluation assessments. Progress monitoring is much more flexible and the data can be qualitative and quantitative.
Jacquie
02:02:54
Thanks Heather and Scott! That is really helpful. I'd be interested in seeing a list of which are and are not valid remotely.
Jen Hydrick (she/her)
02:08:48
just to clarify: the district must accept outside evaluations as info via parent input. but outside evaluations may *not* substitute for a district evaluation. correct?
Jen Hydrick (she/her)
02:11:29
But they are not required to adopt an outside evaluation?
Cherylynne Crowther
02:11:46
Marianne-- wow, that's quite helpful!
Jeremy
02:12:02
If the district isn’t following the state guidelines discussed in the meeting who should we contact to help resolve any issues.
Pam Phillips
02:13:14
yes hello
Pam Phillips
02:13:33
hello@SeattleSpecialEducationPTSA.org
Jeremy
02:14:02
Thanks Pam
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
02:15:12
You can email hello@SeattleSpecialEducationPTSA.orgto request remaining questions and answers to be emailed to you. Please put "Request for Q&As from C19 OSPI guidance" in the subject line.Thank you!
Jana Parker SSEPTSA
02:17:31
If you would like to join or even just support our advocacy work, you can join or donate at https://seattlespecialeducationptsa.org/
Cheryl Jenrow
02:18:23
Thank you so much Scott for talking with us.
Pam Phillips
02:18:33
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Romel D. Mackelprang
02:18:35
Thank you!!
Donna’s iPhone
02:19:02
Thank you Scott! You are a rock star!
Jacquie
02:19:09
Thank you so much Scott and everyone who helped organize!!!! This was really helpful!
Heather Schwindt
02:19:33
Thank you Scott! You are such a valuable resource for families in the Puget Sound area.
Sherry Mashburn
02:19:39
Please list Scott;s cell again, thank you
scott.raub
02:20:11
Cell phone: 360-819-7277
Penny Willoughby
02:20:21
Thank you, Scott! Always informative.
Julie Gunter
02:20:24
Thank you Scott. I'm so thankful for all your help
Hodan M SCPTSA
02:20:28
Thank you Scott!
Jen T
02:20:41
Thank you Scott! (And Jana and Pam <3 )
scott.raub
02:20:41
Email: scott.raub@k12.wa.us