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Session 3: Trends in the Genealogy of Crypto-Judaic Studies - Shared screen with speaker view
Rick Fernandez
29:48
My mom grew up on a farm in Arizona, her father was from Zacatecas. When it was time to slaughter the animals for food, she tells me that her father would spend the day before sharpening the knife, then on slaughter day he'd hang the animals upside down and slice the throat very fast till all the blood drained from the animals. I asked her why they didn't catch and use it, as Mexicans do, and she said, with horror, that you couldn't eat the blood because it would make you sick. You had to let it drain into the ground and then cover it with dirt. My mom was totally unaware of any Jewish heritage when she told me this.
Libny Ventura
34:44
Good afternoon everyone, I want to know wich average percentage is necesary in the DNA for considerate someone biologically Jew?
Rosa Marina Siegel
37:42
My mother said her Honduran family would put a vessel with water and ruda (ruta) plant branch in the room of the deceased
Diane Mock
39:37
My family took food and sat with family of deceased.
Rick Fernandez
42:53
This is amazing. My dad's mother in New Mexico told me that her favorite holiday was the day of Santa Ester, when all the females in the family gathered, dressed in white, and ate special foods. She said it was only for the women and they always had a great time.
Genie Milgrom
43:42
In Portugal the Holiday of Santa Ester was the Fast Day that substituted Yom Kipur
Libny Ventura
44:23
My mother still believes that sweep to outside is bad luck.
Genie Milgrom
44:27
They would fast until Sunday and then eat a typical dish called an Hornazo.
Genie Milgrom
44:44
They would fast until Sun down. Not Sunday
Rick Fernandez
46:11
my family went to church semi-regularly but we never had any statues, crucifixes, holy water, or any catholic devotional items at our home.
kevin martin
52:47
new christian
Libny Ventura
57:00
But not everyone can follow his genealogy across 500 years, for example here in Central America we mostly of the time just can go back to the end of Spanish Colonial time.
kevin martin
57:05
Iberian naming conventions (Castilian) are very very confusing
Isabelle Sandoval
01:01:33
Question for Adam: Can you share some Portuguese and Spanish Sephardic surname findings of your research of genealogy and DNA found in Mexico and New Mexico/Colorado? Thank you!
Cindy Seton-Rogers
01:06:11
Genie’s handout is an AMAZING resource!
Rick Fernandez
01:07:09
I missed that - how can we get a copy of her handout?
Cindy Seton-Rogers
01:07:57
Email me at Cynthia.rogers@utdallas.edu and I will forward to you.
Rick Fernandez
01:08:23
will do - thanks!
Cengiz Sisman
01:08:39
I would love to get that handout too.
kevin martin
01:09:17
A Star of David as Genie says is a recent symbol of Judaism
Rachel Unkefer
01:10:36
I know false purity of blood documents were sometimes sold — is there any clue to determine which were real and which were fake?
Rick Fernandez
01:11:22
where on your website can we find the list of passengers from Spain to Indias?
kevin martin
01:12:02
The intent of most New Christians was to become Old Christians and games were played to reach that Goal
Genie Milgrom
01:12:55
Please e mail me through my website and I will be happy to send you the file .It is huge. Must go via wetransfer
Genie Milgrom
01:14:03
Yes Kevin thank you. The one symbol that I do find again and again in the stones of these villages is the menorah or hanukiah as well the letters.
kevin martin
01:22:35
Even North Africa was very very dangerous, Ferdinand even told those that left if you return within 6 years you can regain your property at the same price which you received
kevin martin
01:31:41
Brilliant Adam
kevin martin
01:35:30
500 AD Spain ! aha
Isabelle Sandoval
01:44:24
Super genetic presentation Adam!
Diane Mock
01:46:58
Have you finished testing San Luis Valley, Colorado?
Francine Gaillour
01:47:01
What comparator populations (communities) have you evaluated? i.e. do you random towns in the US that have not identified as having crypto-Jew families that you have evaluated?
Rosa Marina Siegel
01:47:10
Hi Adam can you please tell us what are the origin of Y DNA lineages that you found in Honduras? Are from Ottoman Turkey or North Africa? Anything from Braganca, Portugal?
kevin martin
01:47:29
Brilliant Adam
stephanie Sofie Shefia
01:48:05
Thank you all, excellent presentations
Marcy Hundley
01:48:43
Excellent presentation, Mr. Brown. Thank you!
Isaac Amon
01:48:47
Was the epidermolysis bullosa primarily first cousins or could autosomal recessive disease extend to fourth or fifth cousins in your case studies?
Rosa Marina Siegel
01:49:26
Hi Adam can you please tell us what are the origin of Y DNA lineages that you found in Honduras? Are from Ottoman Turkey or North Africa? Anything from Braganca, Portugal?
Dione Pereira and Bob Feron
01:49:46
Are the Y-chromosomes of descendants of Crypto-Jews distinctive in any way, or they typical of Sephardi lineages?
Rosa Marina Siegel
01:50:07
Thank you Adam
Andrea Vasconcelos
01:50:42
Thank you!
Francine Gaillour
01:51:26
For Adam (repeat of my question above): What comparator populations (communities) have you DNA evaluated? i.e. did you visit random towns in the US that have not identified as having crypto-Jew families that you have evaluated?
Diane Mock
01:51:33
Are you finished testing in San Luis Colorado?
Andrea Vasconcelos
01:52:16
It was a wonderful programming, very educational. Thanks again!
Patti Jo Streltzer
01:57:41
Thank you to the speakers, Very informative!
Isaac Amon
02:01:04
I’m also a descendant of Istanbul community (my dad was born there) from Exiles who left Spain in 1492
Dione Pereira and Bob Feron
02:02:37
How many "Cohen" genes have been identified through your Y chromosome study?
Dione Pereira and Bob Feron
02:04:34
Is there a counterpart "Levi" gene on the Y chromosome?
Francine Gaillour
02:05:16
For Shelly: Are you aware of the (anthropologic) research and approach of Dr. Shulamith Halevy, who conducted a lot of the original interviews of families in Mexico and New Mexico. Her opinion (when I spoke with her in 2011) is that any new anthropologic research in New Mexico would be “contaminated” by the fact that there is now too much popular lore about crypto-Jewish customs to make any contemporary research valid.
kevin martin
02:06:20
Is it right to name it Cohen did someone take Arons dna swab
stephanie Sofie Shefia
02:06:54
Yup
yitzchaak kerem
02:12:44
If you tested Indian and Ethiopian Jews in Israel, a study could be on its way. \don't need to go into Central Africa per se
Cengiz Sisman
02:13:21
To Adam: As a historian I am still a bit skeptical about the way the dna studies is used in historical studies. you are already made differences btw biologial and sosyologoical/historical/political questions, but at a popular level people are using it to prove that they are coming from this or that community. for example, if someone has a 20% connection to any race, would that make them Jewish, Turkish etc. Are we expecting a bit too much from DNA research? Also is there any danger that these studies could be used for possible anti-Semitic arguments in the future?
kevin martin
02:14:11
Do they consider themselves Jewish, I am confused
Cengiz Sisman
02:15:08
to Genie: I am just wondering whether you used any family trees for your research? how common, if any, the marranos kept family trees?
Marcy Hundley
02:16:09
Eloquently stated, Shelley!
Diane Mock
02:18:55
My gf was Seventh Day Adventist in Alamosa. His DNA (old code E1B1B1)
kevin martin
02:19:35
A question there are millions and millions of people out there with Jewish ancestry and are happily non Jewish, what makes New Mexico different
Lauren McElroy
02:20:10
Wonderful session — thank you.
stephanie Sofie Shefia
02:20:16
That’s an interesting question
Rick Fernandez
02:20:34
wonderful conference today!