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BOTH/AND - Western North Carolina - Shared screen with speaker view
Luke Edwards
16:33
Welcome everyone! Please let us know here in the chat what church you are from and what your role is there!
Jackson Rose
18:03
First UMC Asheboro, NC.... I do whatever I'm asked to do but mostly audio/visual tasks
Luke Edwards
20:03
Welcome everyone! Please let us know here in the chat what church you are from and what your role is there!
Jason Moore
20:32
Download the handbook: https://bit.ly/BOTH_AND_HANDBOOK_DL
Matt Smith
21:21
Matt Smith, pastor of Faith Church in Indian Trail is with you
Mark Sills
24:12
Mark Sills, retired UMC pastor
Luke Edwards
24:47
Hi Everyone!
Luke Edwards
25:21
I’ll be watching the chat if y’all have any questions!
Rev. Cindy Lunsford
30:22
Cindy Lunsford, pastor rural church 2-point charge
Sarah Kalish
30:29
Sarah Kalish - Senior Pastor First UMC, Wadesboro
Nathan Webb
30:32
Good afternoon! Nathan Webb from Checkpoint Church - a church plant in the Western North Carolina Conference designed with nerds, geeks, and gamers in mind.
Covington
30:41
Carol Covington from Clemmons UMC
Tracy Schumpert
30:42
Tracy Schumpert - Madison UMC
Cashiers UMC
30:47
Aryn Williams-Ruebel- Cashiers UMC
Ezekiel Gillie
30:54
Jessie and Ezekiel Gillie - Contemporary Worship Leader and Children/Youth Director at Gibsonville UMC
Sylvia Casey
30:55
Hello. Sylvia Casey, Simpson-Gillespie UMC, Charlotte, Worship Co-Chair.
Fairview UMC
31:07
Duane Corle - Fairview UMC - Senior Pastor
Tricia Campbell
31:07
Tricia Campbell Mill Grove UMC Music Director
FUMC TWO
31:12
Karen Easter-Bayne, Hendersonville FUMC
Cassandra Rawls
31:17
Cassandra Rawls Hartzell Memorial - Hickory, NC and McQueen Chapel Conover, NC
Darryl Dayson
31:26
Darryl Dayson, Simpson-Gillespie (Charlotte), pastor.
Rob Hutchinson
31:27
Rob Hutchinson, from my couch.
Tom Boone
31:27
Tom Boone - Mount Tabor, UMC
Kaye Fry
31:31
Kaye Fry, Pastor, Stony Hill, Albemarle, NC
Debra
31:33
Debra Swing - First High Point
greg
31:39
Greg Hooper - Canton Central UMC
jbbrookshire
31:42
Jim Brookshire, Sedgefield UMC, Charlotte
Lisa Johnston
31:44
Lisa Johnston - Pastoral Intern - Mount Tabor UMC, WS
Kelli
31:46
stranger things!
Ashley Cyre
31:48
Ashley Cyre - Crews UMC Winston-Salem
P. D Shoff
31:51
Great to see you on with us Mark Sills! Awesome! Pam Shoffner (New Goshen-Greensboro)
Jae Lee
32:00
Jae Lee, pastor at Calvary in Charlotte
Allan Van Meter
32:28
Allan Van Meter - Archdale UMC, Archdale
Amy Spivey
32:34
Amy Spivey - Monticello UMC - Statesville
Beth and Kelly Crissman
33:15
Beth Crissman West Market Street and Kelly Crissman Sandy Ridge and Unity
Barry Lemons
33:33
Barry Lemons - Gibsonville UMC
Tracy Schumpert
33:44
I did - very good
Craig Sefa
33:46
yes
Beth and Kelly Crissman
33:46
Yes
Pat Dixon
33:50
Yes.
Jae Lee
33:52
yes
Kelli
34:03
Kelli Mullinix First Hendersonville UMC
Lynda Ferguson
34:04
Lynda Ferguson First UMC Asheboro
Harrisburg UMC
34:29
Toni Ruth Smith - Harrisburg UMC
Sybil Perrell
35:21
Hello - Sybil Perrell - Pastor at Lilesville Charge
Cheryl
35:25
Cheryl Barker - Salem UMC Denver NC Dir. of Music and Arts
Jackson Rose
36:24
JP Rose - First UMC Asheboro
Tracy Schumpert
38:45
Will there be a handout for this Webinar? I am unable to take notes and watch at the same time on my iPad
Jason Moore
38:56
Download the handbook: https://bit.ly/BOTH_AND_HANDBOOK_DL
Rev. Cindy Lunsford
40:10
Tracy—The handout was sent with the email that had our link after we registered
Tracy Schumpert
40:51
Thanks!
Covington
40:56
yes
Ashley Cyre
40:58
yes!
Jim Parsons
40:58
yep
Jackson Rose
40:59
oh yes
Sue Hudson
41:00
yes
Tracy Schumpert
41:00
Absolutely!
Kaye Fry
41:00
yes
Tom Boone
41:00
Yes!!
Debbie
41:02
yes
Pat Dixon
41:03
Mostly
Sylvia Casey
41:04
yes
Sybil Perrell
41:05
yep
Allan Van Meter
41:05
Yes
Rob Hutchinson
41:06
yup
Kathey Hollifield
41:07
yes
Marilyn Weiler
41:15
Yes
sonny reavis
41:30
Films are always better ;-)
Tracy Schumpert
42:34
Yes
Pat Dixon
42:36
Yes
Kaye Fry
42:38
yes
jbbrookshire
42:38
yes
Debbie
42:39
yes
Sybil Perrell
42:39
yes
Mary Kay
42:40
Yed
Rev. Cindy Lunsford
42:40
yes
Sarah Kalish
42:41
Yes
Ashley Cyre
42:41
yes
Cashiers UMC
42:43
yes
Johnny Lord
42:45
Yes
Wayner Dickert
42:46
Up and down
melissa
42:50
Yes
Lynda Ferguson
42:51
yes
Nathan Webb
44:48
Absolutely!
Ashley Cyre
44:48
yes!
Tracy Schumpert
44:53
Saw the movie
Tom Boone
45:00
They made a book out of that movie??
Tracy Schumpert
45:08
Yep
Nathan Webb
45:10
Technically had Wil Wheaton read it to me
Dustin
45:12
To prove your previous point, I saw the movie but haven’t read the book
Jim Parsons
46:14
1 hour
Johnny Lord
46:15
1 hour
Cashiers UMC
46:16
One hour ish
Danny Buckner
46:16
hour
Pat Dixon
46:17
1 hour
Tracy Schumpert
46:17
1 hour
Allan Van Meter
46:19
60 minutes
FUMC TWO
46:19
1 hour
Ashley Cyre
46:19
1:15 hr
Kaye Fry
46:20
1hour
Sylvia Casey
46:23
1 hour 45 minutes
Mary Kay
46:23
45 mins to 1hr
Rob Hutchinson
46:25
75 min
Covington
46:26
one hourish
Sue Hudson
46:26
hour
Dustin
46:27
1 hour
Anita
46:27
Hour ish
Harrisburg UMC
48:57
Facebook analytics are helpful... viewing numbers drop pretty consistently after the sermon is over maybe around 35 minutes.
Cashiers UMC
51:16
nope
Covington
51:17
No
Tracy Schumpert
51:19
Nope
Sue Hudson
51:19
no
Kaye Fry
51:19
no
Mary Kay
51:22
some
Johnny Lord
51:24
Sometimes.
Pat Dixon
51:24
I'm weird. YES
Anita
51:26
Nope
Lisa Johnston
51:30
yes
Mark Sills
51:33
yes
McKenzie Sefa, Spencer NC
56:54
Can you repost the handbook?
Jason Moore
57:01
Download the handbook: https://bit.ly/BOTH_AND_HANDBOOK_DL
McKenzie Sefa, Spencer NC
57:12
Thanks1
Harrisburg UMC
57:40
yes, vanco
Darryl Dayson
57:41
Vanco
Jim Parsons
57:43
Tithe.;y
Cashiers UMC
57:45
Vanco
Kaye Fry
57:45
Conference
Dustin
57:45
Tithely
Ezekiel Gillie
57:47
Yes tithe.ly
Wayner Dickert
57:48
tithe.ly
Amy Spivey
57:50
Yes Vanco
Rob Hutchinson
57:51
YEs, Breeze
FUMC TWO
57:51
Pushpay
Allan Van Meter
57:52
Yes we are, Conference
Mary Kay
57:53
We are tythly?
Marilyn Weiler
58:00
Vanco
Barry Lemons
58:06
tithe.ly
Mary Kay
58:09
tithe.ly
Luke Edwards
58:47
A link to conference giving mechanism: https://www.wnccumc.org/online-donations-to-churches
Kaye Fry
59:14
also have a link on our website
Mary Kay
01:02:42
That is so cool!
Barry Lemons
01:06:05
You are cracking me up!
Ashley Cyre
01:06:35
I start with checkin gin with people via their comments in the feed
Ashley Cyre
01:07:55
PREAC!
Tracy Schumpert
01:08:27
I greet but I tell them to go our link that shows in the comments so they can find the bulletin
Johnny Lord
01:09:52
Announcements as action steps, great idea and not boring!!!
Mary Kay
01:10:46
Yay!
Jackson Rose
01:10:53
Can you leave the lower 3rd up a little longer so we can write it down?
Tracy Schumpert
01:11:00
I’m always stuck on how to introduce offering or talking about offering
Tracy Schumpert
01:13:36
Yes
Luke Edwards
01:13:37
Yes!
Rob Hutchinson
01:13:37
woot
Kelli
01:13:37
me
Ashley Cyre
01:13:38
YES
Kelly Shrader
01:13:38
yes
Nathan Webb
01:13:39
This is the way!
McKenzie Sefa, Spencer NC
01:13:39
yep!
Pat Dixon
01:13:40
yES
Harrisburg UMC
01:13:40
Wes is
Cheryl
01:13:41
yes!
Denise Kilgo
01:13:41
Me
Mary Kay
01:13:42
yes
Wayner Dickert
01:14:20
No spoilers!!!
Rob Hutchinson
01:14:22
indeed
Tracy Schumpert
01:14:29
Yep
Tracy Schumpert
01:16:23
😂
Jackson Rose
01:16:24
hahahahahahahahaha
Mary Kay
01:16:27
Oh my
Mary Kay
01:16:43
LOL!
Covington
01:16:44
That's great! :-)
Tracy Schumpert
01:16:44
Looks like a 48 hours episode
Lisa Johnston
01:17:18
lol
Mary Kay
01:17:18
HaHa
Rob Hutchinson
01:17:24
meow
Sue Hudson
01:17:26
lol
Liz Shifflette-Slate
01:17:28
hahahahahaha
Mary Kay
01:20:07
That is so sweet!
Pat Dixon
01:21:26
Like my knocking over the altar table decorations today???
Pat Dixon
01:22:33
Music is more subtle
Cheryl
01:22:47
more relaxed
Covington
01:22:55
more casual, more personal
Jackson Rose
01:23:12
Empathetic towards the audience at home. We feel the pain
McKenzie Sefa, Spencer NC
01:23:21
no grand entrance
Sylvia Casey
01:23:24
Less people on the NY Streets
Johnny Lord
01:23:25
He acknowleged the at home audience.
Amy Spivey
01:23:32
Contextual with mask
Kelli
01:23:33
more relatable
Cashiers UMC
01:23:48
Behind the scene insight
FUMC TWO
01:23:50
shows the changes made because of the pandemic -- masks, distancing in the band, moving seats
Johnny Lord
01:25:14
YES!!!
Mary Kay
01:25:25
I would love for us to do this! change is good!
Tom Boone
01:28:08
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Jackson Rose
01:28:13
Booorrrrrring
Tracy Schumpert
01:28:14
I would because I love the music
Covington
01:28:22
On no, this is so painful.
Jackson Rose
01:28:26
yikes!
Kelli
01:28:29
stop
Tracy Schumpert
01:28:32
Oh my!!! now not so much
Tom Boone
01:28:33
Oh my!!
FUMC TWO
01:28:34
yikes!!! no way.
Jim Parsons
01:28:35
hahaha
Sue Hudson
01:28:40
not
Denise Kilgo
01:28:41
Nope
Larry Gleason
01:28:42
Practice in same key
Lisa Johnston
01:28:46
oh my!!!
Wayner Dickert
01:28:48
Turn it off!!!
Rob Hutchinson
01:28:48
is this your daughter's concert?
Tom Boone
01:28:52
Make it stop!!!
Jackson Rose
01:28:57
*pianist* don't laugh, don't laugh, don't laugh
Johnny Lord
01:28:59
Uhhhhh!
Mary Kay
01:29:00
I would had gone and got another cup of coffe after turning the sound down.
Tracy Schumpert
01:29:01
Painful!!
Liz Shifflette-Slate
01:29:05
Please make it stop!!
Tom Boone
01:29:11
I'm out!!
Dustin
01:29:12
Is there a link to this.
Suzanne Schilling
01:29:19
Kenny "G" ma- nee- Christmas!
Jae Lee
01:29:23
Lord, have mercy!
Tracy Schumpert
01:30:34
We use music at the beginning so people can get logged on
Jim Parsons
01:30:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-sYfNGsv8
Denise Kilgo
01:35:28
Me!
Nathan Webb
01:35:28
Yes!
Ashley Cyre
01:35:29
yes
Kelli
01:35:29
!!!!!
Rev. Cindy Lunsford
01:35:30
yes
Tracy Schumpert
01:35:30
Yep
Rev. Cindy Lunsford
01:35:43
yes
Ashley Cyre
01:36:09
Marbled rye bread
Luke Edwards
01:37:31
4 KEY QUESTIONS TO ASK:1. What’s your driving scripture and what big idea does it present?2. What felt need are people walking in with that relates to this scripture?3. What’s your hook? What does it look like (metaphor, story)?4. What’s the goal of your worship experience?
Luke Edwards
01:37:55
Handbook link: https://midnightoilproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/624/2021/01/BOTH-AND-HANDBOOK.pdf
Covington
01:43:59
Here! Hanging on your every word
Ashley Cyre
01:44:00
still here
Tracy Schumpert
01:44:02
Yes, still here
Cheryl
01:44:02
absolutely
Tracy Schumpert
01:44:10
Nope, that would be quite a mess
Johnny Lord
01:44:11
Don't you know the Holy Spirit only shows up on Sunday morning?
Harrisburg UMC
01:44:17
you're making us think. That's good.
Mary Kay
01:44:20
We are soaking this in!
Tracy Schumpert
01:44:47
We are buying equipment to do better live when we come back in-person
Ashley Cyre
01:44:56
I have
Tracy Schumpert
01:44:56
Yes
FUMC TWO
01:45:00
yep
Wayner Dickert
01:45:01
Since we started livestreaming
Cashiers UMC
01:45:01
I like the shorter service
Marilyn Weiler
01:45:01
Yes
Kaye Fry
01:45:10
yes. we've shortened
Wayner Dickert
01:46:12
but no congregational singing right now
Pat Dixon
01:46:23
it is not OK to sing during COVID...
Kaye Fry
01:47:23
Often I just post links on our FB page for songs when I post scripture, and sermon title.
Sue Hudson
01:47:39
good music idea
Tracy Schumpert
01:47:55
Yes
Nathan Webb
01:47:56
Yep!
Ashley Cyre
01:47:58
yes
Kaye Fry
01:48:00
yes
David
01:48:00
Yes
Johnny Lord
01:48:00
Yes
Allan Van Meter
01:48:01
Yes
Pat Dixon
01:48:02
TED are great
Jackson Rose
01:48:02
I LOVE Ted
Debra
01:48:03
yes love them
Covington
01:48:04
yes
Tom Boone
01:48:04
Yes
Mary Kay
01:48:12
Love Ted Talks
Lisa Johnston
01:48:15
yes
Mary Kay
01:48:26
Faith Talks are good too
Mary Kay
01:49:22
Faith Talks are on UMW site
Nathan Webb
01:49:30
I'm doing this with my current 'sermons.' My situation is a bit different, but I am producing weekly sermon-like videos on nerd culture and scripture. Longest one is maybe 14 minutes? Most are around 9 minutes.
Wayner Dickert
01:49:57
YouTube lets you share from a specific point in the video
Mary Kay
01:50:49
I like having a Call to Action! Yes!
Denise Kilgo
01:51:45
I have had less engagement in the comment section over time as people are using their TVs, rather than other devices. Are there other means to receive live responses?
Cashiers UMC
01:51:49
YouTube makes is difficult to “engage in the chat” online. Several of my folks have expressed not being able to add a comment on youtube
Pat Dixon
01:52:29
I was dreading doing this workshop for 2 hours, but the time is passing quickly! THANKS!
Ezekiel Gillie
01:53:11
We use the church online platform….its great and prayer requests are private
Cashiers UMC
01:53:21
yes
Ashley Cyre
01:53:21
yep
Tom Boone
01:53:22
Yes!
Kaye Fry
01:53:31
yes
Allan Van Meter
01:53:32
Yes
Rob Hutchinson
01:53:32
indeed
Tracy Schumpert
01:53:33
Definitely
Pat Dixon
01:53:34
Absolutely!
Ashley Cyre
01:55:16
oops
Cashiers UMC
01:56:06
The church secretary will be very upset if we don’t include the date…
Sue Hudson
01:57:22
good concept
Suzanne Schilling
01:57:43
Add "cards" on your pre-recorded videos that point to your previous sermons you are mentioning.
Jim Parsons
01:57:56
Dates can be added in the description area.
FUMC TWO
01:58:00
what about naming members' names in prayers?
Tracy Schumpert
01:58:39
Does anyone know of a service to text prayers or do you use your phone number?
Wayner Dickert
01:58:39
We have someone that engages everyone online
Kaye Fry
02:01:24
One Call Now allows you to record voicemail, email or text messages
Mary Kay
02:01:39
I like that.
Suzanne Schilling
02:04:33
Bear in mind that not all of us are live streaming. You keep referring to a "chat" during online service. How does this happen?
Kaye Fry
02:04:45
We cannot use Zoom for worship at our facility because of poor internet service. other options?
Tracy Schumpert
02:04:55
We use Facebook Live
Kaye Fry
02:05:20
do you participate in chat during worship
Suzanne Schilling
02:05:37
We also have spotty internet. That's why we pre record
Lisa Johnston
02:06:05
we have been utilizing chat hosts.
Tracy Schumpert
02:06:10
I have my worship team engage with those in the chat box since both of my devices are being used for Facebook Live and Zoom for some of our members
Sue Hudson
02:07:13
I like that idea
Stephen Smith
02:07:22
I engage during service in chat. I comment back a short response to prayer concerns
Denise Kilgo
02:08:11
We tried a question at the beginning that was fun to get people more comfortable using the comments. For Thanksgiving it was “what is your favorite dish for Thanksgiving?”
Suzanne Schilling
02:08:20
Reflection questions need to include in person people as well. Bc most worshippers in person are not participating
Mary Kay
02:13:40
Yay
Cashiers UMC
02:14:53
I doubt many in-person worshipers would complain if worship was shorter… add a fellowship time or musical extension
Tracy Schumpert
02:15:06
True!
McKenzie Sefa, Spencer NC
02:16:40
YOu can multi-task at home
Covington
02:19:40
ha ha!!
Sue Hudson
02:19:50
lol
Kaye Fry
02:19:51
As the pastor I have to put on clothes. lol
Larry Gleason
02:19:51
Sorry, went to put my pjs on
Ashley Cyre
02:19:51
Still here :)
Mary Kay
02:19:53
ok
Tracy Schumpert
02:19:55
I’m wearing sweatpants to church and covering with my robe.
Jackson Rose
02:19:57
took note.... get dressed, comb hair
Lisa Johnston
02:20:00
pj's rock!!!
Covington
02:20:04
Always in pajamas
Mary Kay
02:20:09
In jamas all the time!
Deborah Daniels
02:20:30
Eat breakfast too!
Mark Sills
02:20:50
We worship via ZOOM so virtually everyone is on camera! (no pjs)
Jennifer Orr
02:21:08
drive-in is about 45min worship
Mary Kay
02:21:19
You are good! We have been with you longer than 40 mins!
Jackson Rose
02:26:40
Mary Kay- exactly what I was thinking. lol
Mary Kay
02:27:30
We do zoom worship but I just put on my top. I still have my jamie bottoms on. Lol!
Mary Kay
02:29:34
Smooth!
Larry Gleason
02:34:05
NICE!!!!
Sybil Perrell
02:37:50
that's what I'm doing now. I do 2 services, recording 1. then I load it after I get home from worship
Jason Moore
02:38:54
Text in Church free 60 day Pro account: http://bit.ly/TextInChurchFreeOffer
Mary Kay
02:40:13
Cool!
Jason Moore
02:42:08
Impressions Unlimited: http://ImpressionsUnlimited.org/midnightoil/
Johnny Lord
02:44:24
It was worth it, thanks!
Mary Kay
02:44:25
It's all good!
Jason Moore
02:45:11
The Church Co website in 7 days 20% off:https://bit.ly/3atAg8l
Stephen Smith
02:46:43
what do you think of live streaming the morning service as is then having an online evening service which is edited to stand alone
Tracy Schumpert
02:46:54
We have a worship warm up about an hour before worship on Zoom
Nathan Webb
02:48:37
Plenty to chew on - thanks!
Cashiers UMC
02:49:47
We stream to YouTube… lots of people now worship from their tv- chatting is not really an option. I’m wondering if the text to church is better
Wayner Dickert
02:50:09
We use OBS
Nathan Webb
02:50:09
Love OBS!
Larry Gleason
02:50:50
YEA!!!!!!!
Covington
02:51:21
Thanks, all! This has been very helpful.
Luke Edwards
02:51:23
https://www.wnccumc.org/bothandworship
Mary Kay
02:51:28
Wow!
Sue Hudson
02:51:45
Thanks Jason. Great job.
Jackson Rose
02:51:47
Hey, that's better than a car or my cat!
Jason Moore
02:51:51
Survey for this session: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8DV9C8Q
Luke Edwards
02:52:00
Here is the grant link: https://www.wnccumc.org/bothandworship
Dan Pezet
02:56:50
https://www.wnccumc.org/bothandworship
Jackson Rose
02:56:58
Wow, Dan, look at all those open tabs! haha. Love the folder labeled "Mine"
Rev. Cindy Lunsford
02:57:48
Where do we find the recorded webinars?
Jim Parsons
02:57:55
Thank you, Jason, Dan, and Luke. This is incredibly helpful.
Stephen Smith
02:58:00
thanks Jason and Dan Hay! to Luke!
Suzanne Schilling
02:58:01
Thank you all!
Bruce Ikard
02:58:07
Thank You all.... Excellent Info!
Mary Kay
02:58:15
Thank you all so much!
Luke Edwards
02:58:24
We will post this replay on the same link once it is available.
Allan Van Meter
02:58:30
Thank you all for providing this to all of us. Blessings to you all.
Kathey Hollifield
02:58:30
Thank you so much for the information.
P. D Shoff
02:58:35
Thanks Dan, Luke and Jason. Both workshops have been great! Pam Shoffner
Cashiers UMC
02:58:50
Thanks everyone!
Luke Edwards
02:59:08
Thanks everyone!
Sybil Perrell
02:59:09
thanks fir your help excellent as always - good ideas god bless
Cassandra Rawls
02:59:19
Thank you for today
Nathan Webb
02:59:31
Thank you!
David
02:59:41
Thank you!
Sylvia Casey
02:59:45
Thank you all