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Melvin Mackey
14:58
Melvin Mackey — Vashon, WA — Sqababsh Land
Kathleen Gallagher
17:36
Suquamish
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
17:38
If you don’t know the indigenous land where you live, you can look it up here: https://native-land.ca/
Roy Pardee
17:45
Suquamish, Coast Salish & Port Gamble S'Klallam
Desiree
17:45
Kizh/Tongva
Tish Levee
17:56
I live in Nisqually land gratefully
NORMAN MCLOUGHLIN
18:32
Norm McLoughlin Rockybay Salish
Linda Bock
18:40
Linda Bock from Sammamish former lands of the Stillaguamish, Duwamish, and Coast Salish
Bob Findlay
24:10
A lot of misinformation online esp. among young folks, vasectomies are NOT "easily reversible"
Roy Pardee
24:22
worst euphemism EVER
Bob Findlay
25:00
extreme though they are/have quickly taken over mainstream spaces
Roy Pardee
34:47
every accusation is a confession
Bob Findlay
35:19
DARVO=deny, attack, reverse victim and offender
Heidi Dragneff
36:28
projection
Carol Sullivan
36:41
It neutralizes any “argument”.
Roy Pardee
37:18
see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror
Bob Findlay
37:38
Elon Musk said to "wait" for an attack days before harassment allegations surfaced because he new the article was coming out having already declined to comment
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
44:14
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Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
46:04
Conservative is not the correct term
Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
46:24
Radical right
Kate Butt
46:40
Agreed, Dwight
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
51:56
States can deny funding ALL private schools including religious schools.
Kate Butt
52:32
From what I read it sounded as if Gorsuch did not read the evidence.
Daniel Lewinski
53:42
Maine anticipated the ruling and changed the funding of private schools to exclude those schools that discriminated against LGBTQ+ students.
Roy Pardee
53:57
Silver lining!
Arnold Byron
55:29
Is carrying a concealed weapon the same as carrying a gun in public?
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
55:33
How would the Court have ruled if a Muslim went to the midfield of a football field with a prayer rug and invited others to join?
Kate Butt
56:16
Carrying a gun in public doesn't have to be concealed.
Roy Pardee
56:20
@Arrnold I think there's a distinction between "open carry" (where gun is visible) and concealed carry
Daniel Lewinski
57:26
Koch Bros, while both were alive and continues with the surviving brother, heavily funded the Federalist Society that has ties to all six Republican appointed supreme court justices.
Daniel Lewinski
57:46
Trumps
Jackie Rivas
58:06
As Steve Bannon said, the objective is to destroy the administrative state.
Roy Pardee
58:20
@Jackie--bingo
Daniel Lewinski
58:24
Trump's three appointees were directly lifted from a lift of "appropriate" candidates provided by the Federalist Society.
Jackie Rivas
01:00:07
But will they apply it to interracial marriage¿????????
Roy Pardee
01:01:09
I do wonder whether modern state legislatures would really have an appetite to go after gay rights.
Roy Pardee
01:01:28
Contraception is an easy slippery slope from abortion tho.
Roy Pardee
01:02:02
(and I do not mean to minimize the danger to American liberty here)
Jackie Rivas
01:02:30
@Roy - they're undoing the 14th amendment
Beverly Cooper-Wiele
01:02:42
No, they can't, because the anti-history and anti-CRT folks keep quoting Dr. King's "...not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Based on their constantly employing that quotation, it would be difficult for them to claim that there is some "racial" difference that would disallow "inter-racial" marriage.
Roy Pardee
01:04:41
we'd need 60+ dem seats in the Senate to impeach anybody.
Daniel Lewinski
01:04:46
One Supreme Court Justice has been impeached, Samuel Chase in 1803, and he was aquitted.
Daniel Lewinski
01:04:54
acquitted
Roy Pardee
01:05:05
(or, to remove anybody I guess)
Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
01:05:45
perjury during senate confirmation hearings should be a basis for impeaching justices
Jackie Rivas
01:06:10
Congress can also eliminate certain jurisdictions for SCotus
Carol Sullivan
01:06:46
Republicans have ethics??? (just kidding)
Bob Findlay
01:06:58
I am open to term limits especially for appointed positions such as the court though a lot of the arguments feel like ageism
Daniel Lewinski
01:06:59
Yes, Jackie, Congress does have authority in that regard over SCOTUS.
Roy Pardee
01:07:19
if only we had a functioning Congress...
Daniel Lewinski
01:07:20
(I think but not certain)
Jackie Rivas
01:07:46
Term limits won't save democracy now
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
01:08:04
I think it is true — The constitution has appointments to the Supreme Court for life.
Aruna Bhuta
01:08:05
State elections are all the more important in light of all that’s happening
Jason Sears
01:08:33
From supremecourt.gov: The Constitution states that Justices "shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour." This means that the Justices hold office as long as they choose and can only be removed from office by impeachment.
Roy Pardee
01:09:02
Hah--good one Ken!
Bob Findlay
01:09:47
Many other thing "Criminal Legal System" with the understanding there is no justice for many
Roy Pardee
01:10:10
Sotomayor's dissent included a photo directly disproving Alito's assertion!
Joanna Cullen
01:12:01
I don't see where terms could be changed by congress. It seems like they srerve as long as they chose.
Roy Pardee
01:12:05
(ahem--I mean Gorsuch's assertion (that the prayer was 'private'))
Joanna Cullen
01:12:43
I don't see where congress could impose terms. It seemed that they serve as long as they chose in good behavior
Bob Findlay
01:13:11
Also seen actions planned Saturday July 9th 5 pm Westlake & Wednesday July 13th, 4pm not sure where meeting up
Catherine D
01:13:20
How long did they strike?
Roy Pardee
01:13:51
just a day? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Icelandic_women%27s_strike
Bob Findlay
01:14:05
Just one day!
Jackie Rivas
01:14:35
How about Ireland? The most Catholic country legalized abortion thanks to the women
Roy Pardee
01:16:20
I think the fed gov't could pass an affirmative law guaranteeing a right to abortion tho, couldn't they?
Daniel Lewinski
01:16:31
Relative to Congress regulating the Supreme Court Article III Section 2 of the constitution states "the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."
Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
01:17:41
https://legalknowledgebase.com/can-congress-reject-a-supreme-court-ruling
Jackie Rivas
01:18:42
How about criminalizing the contributors to unwantwd pregancies? Where are the men?
Catherine D
01:20:10
@Jackie - I agree, time to get all rape kits processed within 24 hours (rather than never!), and to get 100% of noncustodial parents paying mandatory child support (rather than only 50% of them)
Joanna Cullen
01:21:11
I would like to know more about n United States law, jurisdiction-stripping (also called court-stripping or curtailment-of-jurisdiction), is the limiting or reducing of a court's jurisdiction by Congress through its constitutional authority to determine the jurisdiction of federal and state courts. How much of a majority is needed.
USAIVA, Rich Stevenson
01:21:31
Storms again here in KY. Missed a lot tonight. Look forward to seeing references to catch up.
Janine
01:21:51
Totally agree with Daniel! The only disruptions which Republicans and the establishment Dems (which is most of them) pay any attention to are economic and industrial ones. We MUST disrupt the economic system to have any power.
Carol Butterfield
01:22:25
I agree that we are getting into the territory of general strikes and civil disobedience. Re gun violence: at some level, all of us Americans are ACCEPTING the status quo of weekly mass shootings if we do NOT challenge the status quo engaging in general strikes, civil disobedience.
Janine
01:22:49
We must always support PROTEST....but let's face it, that doesn't do enough disruption to be taken seriously.
Jackie Rivas
01:24:49
Clarence Thomas in 2015 wrote a dissent to allowing Highland Park to Ban assault rifles. Small world. How bout them apples?
Janine
01:26:17
I don't think there's any question that the destruction of private property (which I call mostly economic disruption, not violence--as a general rule) during the Black Lives Matter and George Floyd, etc protests had more effect on legislative and legal changes than anything else.
Bob Findlay
01:27:48
Right now both leg and judicial branches are dysfunctional though good points Melvin
Jackie Rivas
01:28:52
But the federal agencias have the expertise that Congress does not have and have delegated authorirty.
Janine
01:30:17
The problem Jeremy is that they'll be coming after contraception as well. Abortion is not where they will stop
Kate Butt
01:30:27
If one takes antibiotics, it may disrupt the efficacy of birth control meds.
Julie Martinson
01:30:34
It's called CHOICE.
Jackie Rivas
01:31:22
Most abortions today are through pills.
Kate Butt
01:32:22
@Jackie, to my point, if one is taking birth control and then is placed on antibiotics, the birth control may fail.
Daniel Lewinski
01:32:27
This Supreme Court has pretty much universally denied any human rights except to carry weapons in public.
Bob Findlay
01:32:55
It would seem these laws will have economic consequences esp in state's where laws are most restrictive. They don't seem too concerned about that, though. Enough dark money to compensate? 🤨🤷🏾‍♀️
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
01:32:57
Post carding to Get Out the Vote is OK.
Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
01:33:25
Minority rule is an after-effect of unlimited big money supporting a minority
Jeremy Street
01:33:53
Please sign up as election observers, Spokane had 30 Repubs and no Dem in a recent election.
Elisa Cohen
01:35:10
this is a great organization that funds grassroots organizers on a local level - look inot it and give to them if you canhttps://movement.vote/about/?fbclid=IwAR1SBbJNDbOpK5ltzyRhpmrASlQiApzglPOLQ0Z1iUZm01cuHFbK-9wHBSc#our-mission
Elisa Cohen
01:35:22
https://movement.vote/about/?fbclid=IwAR1SBbJNDbOpK5ltzyRhpmrASlQiApzglPOLQ0Z1iUZm01cuHFbK-9wHBSc#our-mission
Janine
01:36:03
The very vagueness of that point Ken, is what makes the Republicans so able to win elections based on it. They've framed the argument so that individuals (especially religious ones), feel no choice but to vote against all the rest of their best interests (which would hit many Dems positions), only for that one issue.
Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
01:36:11
And abortions are often for the health of the mother and for malformed fetuses that could not live after birth
Jackie Rivas
01:36:19
@Kate - true but most abortions are not surgery but through two pills.
Joanna Cullen
01:37:23
The Pursuit of Happiness. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness: these are among the unalienable rights of all people, according the American Declaration of Independence.
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
01:37:51
I love it — Life begins at incorporation!
Betsy Robins
01:38:32
Washington state is not safe for reproductive rights. I tuned in late so you may have discussed this. Politically, whichever side you are on, the other side needs to worry about the possibility!
Catherine D
01:38:42
Seattle Supports Democracy is having two events. GOTV letter writing at Gas Works Park on Sat, July 16th 11a-1p. And Action Hour on July 20, 7-8p, on zoom. https://seattledemocracy.wixsite.com/website
Jackie Rivas
01:39:13
Pregancies can occur in 10 year olds who could not adopt if they wanted to.
Jackie Rivas
01:40:54
Repulicans focuse on the ends not the means. They are undterred by hypocracy.
Elisa Cohen
01:40:55
it's about control and power
Heather Halpin
01:41:00
Absolutely
Daniel Lewinski
01:41:13
The other divisions are Guns and Voter Suppression to cobble together a "Majority" in the least populated states.
Carol Butterfield
01:41:29
Janine - I agree. I don't want to cheat, but I am tired of Democrats not fighting back adequately. We need to be much more aggressive and proactive.
Joanna Cullen
01:42:11
https://news.gallup.com/poll/313316/one-four-americans-consider-abortion-key-voting-issue.aspx
Jackie Rivas
01:43:41
The problem is that non-progressive Democrats are beholden to the same interests are Republicans.
Joanna Cullen
01:44:18
If the right drives the narrative then their issues will rise to the top.
Kate Butt
01:44:25
Here's a FB group that teaches and discusses how we approach these conversations peacefully. https://www.facebook.com/SmarterPolitics
Janine
01:44:36
So Bob, what do we do INSTEAD???
Dwight Rousu, Redmond, Coastal Salish
01:44:57
Many current conservative "Democrats" would have been republicans 20 years ago, but have left that party
Joanna Cullen
01:45:14
Thank you for the discussion.
Elisa Cohen
01:45:32
thank you!
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
01:45:32
Thank you Cindy
Janine
01:45:36
write postcards!!