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SCALE Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Corrinne Scieszka- Sierra Institute
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Allison Jolley (she/her), Watershed Center
Suzanne- what a fascinating and important job you have. Do you know if other California counties have a position like yours? And/or any Incident Management Teams?
Suzanne Grimmesey
As we are formalizing the position and the work I do, I have been in communication with many others counties and have not yet found another county that has a dedicated position. Hopes that many will in time!
Allison Jolley (she/her), Watershed Center
Very cool!
Jonathan Long
For Joe, does the Tribe (and other Tribes) have sufficient access to training to develop staff capacity to project smoke impacts from intentional burns as well as from wildfires (for public health and permitting)? The Forest Service has a lot of useful tools and expertise that might be helpful, but I don't know whether the Tribe have sufficient access to those resources.
Jonathan Long
As Suzanne suggests, it is important to use Air Resource Advisors more widely on prescribed burns, especially as we try to burn larger areas, and not just for wildfires.
Edward Smith
The Nature Conservancy is working with Stanford Medical School to delineate the differences in prescribed fire smoke and wildfire smoke, both in what is in the smoke and peoples' health response. If people would like to participate in a new study, including use of home AQ monitors, and mail-in sampling pre and post fire events, please visit: https://studypages.com/s/wildfires-and-health-406033/?ref=gallery
Allison Jolley (she/her), Watershed Center
As Public Information Office who facilitates public meetings during wildfire, having someone with your skillset able to speak to that each and every public meeting would be a dream come true Suzanne. Information shops usually have a handful of residents who call daily really just looking for emotional support. While PIOs try our best, being able to refer them to a specialist would be fantastic. I hope more counties follow what Santa Barbara is investing in!
Suzanne Grimmesey
I am the PIO for my department and for the county during crisis events, so I hear you! Thank you so much for your support
Joe Hostler
Don Great Presentation. I admire your work. Can you share the barriers to Rx burning document you helped write? it has great info and ways that others can help
Don Hankins
For those interested in learning more about some of the barriers to cultural and Rx fire, here is a report I contributed to on the topic: https://karuktribeclimatechangeprojects.com/good-fire/
Allison Jolley (she/her), Watershed Center
It is common that BIPOC organizations who offer quality employment for their employees cost more than predominately white organizations. It is my opinion that funders and agencies need to accommodate for this and not expect lower, "more competitive" pricing from tribes and tribal crews. It reminds me of something I read recently about different ways White Supremacy shows up in many organizations. "Your [funding organization] capacity building recommendations are based on having communities-of-color-led organizations operate more like white-led organizations; that’s white supremacy." In your example Irvin, I think this expectation that your prices be lower is a form of white supremacy. As someone who review budget proposals often, I am pushing myself to get more comfortable paying more for BIPOC contractors. Here is a link to the article in case others are interested: https://nonprofitaf.com/2021/06/20-subtle-ways-white-supremacy-manifests-in-nonprofit-and-philanthropy/
Joe Hostler
I think having Local Tribal people working on implementing prescriptions on their lands they are connected to in invaluable. I'm sure it takes less training and familiarity for their crews. I also expect the local workers to better meet prescriptions also
Joe Hostler
Great meeting I look forward to future meetings. I have another one I have to get to. thanks
Allison Jolley (she/her), Watershed Center
Amen Steve. Some of your questions about relate to why non-indigenous funders, agencies, and project managers must be willing to pay more for BIPOC work. For example, one group we are working with pays their staff for 5 days of work a week, while they only work on billable projects 4 days a week. On that fifth day, their staff works on their continuing education, primarily obtaining their GEDs. If people want to claim that they care about equity and promoting just workforce development, they need to stop scoffing at higher overhead rates and costs for organizations who are saddled with additional expenses as a result of systemic, intergenerational racism. Ex: WRTC (where I work) doesn't have to pay for our staff to spend time getting their high school degrees, largely because most of our (predominately white) staff have those degrees. Thanks for your points.
Edward Smith
Steve and others, I support and am interested in your ideas on starting re-matriation of land to indigenous peoples.
Corrinne Scieszka- Sierra Institute
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Craig Christensen
Absolutely great subject matter! Thank you all for sharing!
Taylor Miller
Who tracks restoration work done and how is such data accessed?
Kelly Sheen ~ Trinity County RCD
Actually, for the Trinity County Collaborative Group we get a lot participation from both the USFS and BLM, but almost no participation from CalFire or State agencies.
Kelly Sheen ~ Trinity County RCD
Same with Trinity County FSC
Randy Hanvelt
Patrick is right on here with long term planning and commitments
Chantz Joyce
Are you working beyond USFS ownership - ie - including small private landowners into potential projects?
David Zelinsky Mother Lode Sierra Club
Please comment on the lack of appropriate windows for prescribed burns.
Randy Hanvelt
How do you plan to deal with the Fuel density and stand densities in Southern CA
Taylor Miller
General NEPA/CEQA question— to what extent is NEPA/CEQA compliance an obstacle to project implementation. More specific Yuba question- Is each project a discrete NEPA decision subject to judicial challenge or would such challenge be foreclosed after the final decision on the landscape scale plan is adopted?
Jonathan Kusel - Sierra Institute
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David Zelinsky Mother Lode Sierra Club
Not hearing working with Fire safe councils
David Zelinsky Mother Lode Sierra Club
Sounds like Jessica is too busy to climb Round Top again!
Taylor Miller
Limitations on spending state dollars on federal land?
David Zelinsky Mother Lode Sierra Club
We are thinking a small loss from biomass plants but cheaper than wildfire
David Zelinsky Mother Lode Sierra Club
Come speak to SOFAR Cohesive Strategy of El Dorado County Fire Safe Council