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Virtual forum: Privatization - A Dangerous Threat to Our Public Schools - Shared screen with speaker view
Lara Center
41:23
So sorry, my video is not working. Glad to be here!
Steve/Kristi Douglas
51:28
The Clinton-Gore Administration has worked to expand public school choice and to support the growth of public charter schools. In 1993, there was one charter school in the nation; today, there are more than 2,000.
Lara Center
52:19
The owner of the zoom can mute everyone
Steve/Kristi Douglas
01:02:14
Well $297,000,000 millions dollars later, and the testing is not for the children, its for separating the poor neighborhoods vs property rich district’s. They is no benefit for educational or academic experience towards secondary education. The redlining continues in a different way, the poor neighborhoods get railroaded with gentrification and the neighborhoods schools are getting taking over by for-profit charter schools.
Anna Noble
01:03:29
I would like to ask about the best way to approach enrollment declines in a portfolio district in which the central district can not include charters when assessing the criteria for school closures?
Steve/Kristi Douglas
01:06:58
This is Kristi - National Heritage Academies is here - they are for profit
Evie Hudak
01:08:11
Kristi - only the governing board of a charter school in Colorado is prohibited from being for-profit. The way they get around it is hiring a for-profit management company.
Evie Hudak
01:09:04
A4PEP had a forum on Dark Money - see our website.
Renee Lovato
01:17:41
Transform Education Now pretty much lives in Adams 14 promoting charters. One of their founders is even on a charter school board that just won it's appeal with the state board. :(
Anna Noble
01:19:28
Yes - it seems that Charters in CO can over-ride the local board and appeal to the state. Local school boards are basically forced to approve charter applications from large CMO’s because they know they will be over-ruled.
Evie Hudak
01:20:34
I tell people that charter schools are PUBLICLY FUNDED schools.
Anna Noble
01:20:52
Publicly funded, privately managed.
Anna Noble
01:21:48
I ask if they are ok with billionaires making decisions about “what’s best for kids”, or if we want democracy.
Callie Orgeron (she/her, JCEA)
01:22:09
we need to be careful to not blame teachers while framing the poor quality of those charters... they are set up to fail
Renee Lovato
01:22:13
And the lobbyists!
Anna Noble
01:22:19
and LOTS of lobbyists
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
01:22:28
Maybe drawing a connection with for-profit children health care crisis could help people see the danger of privatization of schools.
Anna Noble
01:23:15
and lucrative future careers for term-limited legislators
J.Grim
01:23:44
The Gov of TN, Bill Lee is giving Hillsdale College millions to open charter schools across the state.
Tammy Story-State Senator
01:25:13
Tragic story in TN!
Anna Noble
01:25:33
After Brown, parents in VA invented school choice to get around sending their kids to integrated schools (I think it is Swann v Macklenberg?)
Phil Sorensen he/him/his
01:26:13
Milton Friedman was a school choice guru as well
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
01:26:48
I think that happens because desegregation ended up being assimilation.
Callie Orgeron (she/her, JCEA)
01:29:25
school's will always be a microcosm of our society
Anna Noble
01:30:16
HBCUs have arguably provided access to a quality education for thousands students in spaces that honor their culture and identity.
Callie Orgeron (she/her, JCEA)
01:30:49
^^agreed
Ellen Pogemiller, OEA
01:31:48
Conservative organizations are pushing the idea that the "money should follow the child". Parents should choose what's best for their child not the government. Do you have thoughts on how you speak about this?
Jeannie Kaplan
01:32:17
Every school needs to be equitable - resources, staff, facilities. Education reform doesn’t really believe that. It believes in competition and winners and losers. DPS has never fully funded neighborhood schools equitably. Student Based Budgeting needs to go.
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
01:33:09
Agree Jeannie, as well as PTSA fundraisings.
Kallie Leyba, AFT CO
01:34:07
Yes, Nara. When some schools can fundraise $100k + it exacerbates inequity
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
01:34:57
120k at South and DPS fundation raises like 40k
Jeannie Kaplan
01:36:10
Agree totally. So inequitable
Paula Noonan
01:36:25
Every kid should take a sick day or week when the standardized tests are running
Anna Noble
01:36:27
@ Ellen - I would argue that we can’t pretend that our choices don’t affect others. We are a society, not a bunch of individuals - how do we know that the decisions we make for our own kid don’t create harm for other peoples children? Surely it is the governments responsibility to provide equal educational opportunities for ALL our nations children, and this should include ways for children from ALL backgrounds and identities to learn together.
Anna Noble
01:38:01
and what our children learn in PUBLIC schools should be decided collectively BY THE PEOPLE through our democratic process.
Ellen Pogemiller, OEA
01:38:50
Thanks!
Jeannie Kaplan
01:38:56
The charter school law here needs to be revisited. Things have changed since 1993. DPS isn’t even looking at how to make changes. How do we as citizens lobby the legislature especially when our legislature is heavily funded by reformer money.
Phil Sorensen he/him/his
01:39:11
Now "innovation" means the flexibility to not meet requirements and still maintain operation.
Kallie Leyba, AFT CO
01:41:40
Thank you Phil!
Lara Center
01:43:23
I thought the new state board is more favorable to striking down charter appeals.
Evie Hudak
01:43:41
The new state board hasn't been sworn in yet
Lara Center
01:43:50
Gotcha!
Renee Lovato
01:46:54
Charter funders have their hands in our local news channels as well.
Renee Lovato
01:46:59
$$$$ spent!
Evie Hudak
01:47:29
The charter funders have their hands in the online news services, like Chalkbeat
Kallie Leyba, AFT CO
01:49:42
Paula is a phenomenal writer - lucky to have her on our side.
Renee Lovato
01:50:13
YES! Thank you Paula for your wonderful work! Thank you for sharing the TRUTH.
Anna Noble
01:51:14
The privatizers have a new candidate training program to recruit people to run for school boards.
Callie Orgeron (she/her, JCEA)
01:51:41
PLEASE get CASE and CASB on board with that
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
01:52:18
Phil, not meet requirements and still look good on accountability framework. That framework needs to change because it doesn’t reflect school quality.
Renee Lovato
01:52:21
Had to...even during COVID when our schools were closed (ACCESS testing).
Callie Orgeron (she/her, JCEA)
01:53:46
Steve & Kristi, Jeffco teachers are screaming with you!!!
Phil Sorensen he/him/his
01:54:22
Nara, agreed. The current framework is designed to allow charters and innovation schools to operate this way.
Kallie Leyba, AFT CO
01:55:06
Adriana can you mute please
Evie Hudak
01:58:25
Clinton was a leader in the DLC (Democratic Leadership Council) that put forward conservative policies like "welfare reform"
Renee Lovato
02:00:15
It would be interesting to see the data on how many charter school students transfer from a charter school to their local public school AFTER October count.
Don Perl
02:01:15
Would it be worth the time and effort to develop a resolution for a moratorium on establishing any further charter schools during which time the vulnerabilities of the charter school programs can be explored and vetted?
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
02:01:20
Give me my hospital
Kallie Leyba, AFT CO
02:02:02
Sure Nara. But you might have to drive on my highway to get there.
Renee Lovato
02:02:30
@Don, I think so, but their dug so deeply into Colorado legislation. They're listed as an option for accountability (external management, charterization…)!
Nara Altmann, PhD (she/her)
02:02:31
Ha ha!
Renee Lovato
02:03:10
Humanize the data - YES!!!
Steve/Kristi Douglas
02:03:45
We did a moratorium on Metro Districts in Commerce City - so, why not Charters, so I say yes - Kristi
Steve/Kristi Douglas
02:04:42
The Clinton Presidency:Expanding Education Opportunity: https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-05.html
Eliza Hamrick HD 61
02:05:27
Thank you so very much for this !
Kallie Leyba, AFT CO
02:05:39
Thank you so much for putting this together! Really informative
Renee Lovato
02:05:43
Thank you so much for bringing this opportunity to us!
Evie Hudak
02:05:58
see our website: www.A4PEP.org
Kathy Plomer
02:06:21
Thank you!
Don Perl
02:06:24
Thank you so much! Yes we have to emphasize the human stories. Gratefully, Don Perl
Charles - Agave Strategy
02:06:26
I encourage everyone to look for NPE's new report coming out within the next week or so which really dives into the problems with for-profit and profit-run charters, especially virtual charters as well as the real estate issue
Steve/Kristi Douglas
02:06:28
Can you save the chat?
J.Grim
02:06:30
Thank-you all!
Tammy Story-State Senator
02:06:43
Thank you, Charles and A4PEP!
leslieburton
02:06:48
Can we get access to this recording?
Phil Sorensen he/him/his
02:06:50
networkforpubliceducation.org
Evie Hudak
02:07:06
A4PEP is hoping to post this recording on our website.