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NTAFN Learning Forum: Not Your Grandparents' Apprenticeship - Shared screen with gallery view
Annika Little
Leah Mayor
Question: With national reports of decreased and decreasing college applications are you seeing a related rise in apprenticeship applicants?
Leah Mayor
Question: One strategy that some of our regional partners are exploring, especially for targeted populations like opportunity youth, is a job guarantee linked to apprenticeship. Is this a model that you believe holds promise? Are their similar strategies and securities we could have on our radar?
Greg Mangum
As a funder that is looking to increase equitable opportunities for people of color, how can philanthropy help leverage DOL funding, and/or support better access to appreticeships for these populations?
Eric M. Seleznow
Diversity in apprenticeship is one thing, equity is another. Diversity brings in more groups of people which is nice, but insufficient — but equity speaks to wages, advancement opportunities, and pathways into management.
Jennifer Carlson
There is a lot of misinformation about a Registered Apprenticeship vs. Pre-Apprenticeship. If they participate in an RA, the job is there. If they are in classroom without a job guarantee, then it is a Pre-Apprenticeship - not an Apprenticeship. RA is the best path we have to getting people into jobs. Employers have to commit the jobs. It’s employer driven, education is a component.
Jennifer Carlson
Hi Leah, yes, we are, but I would add that we have an abundance of applicants that turn out to have a college degree from smaller college, online school, for profit schools, that didn’t lead to a career. They are turning to Apprenticeship for a better outcome that doesn’t require them to start over. We don’t prequalify on any education, but we find out that information when they are accepted. It’s about 50/50
Jennifer Carlson
Leah, short answer, capacity building. Federal funds, while we have them, are highly prescriptive and limiting.
Tania Curry
This bill was passed in signed into law during the 87th Texas Legislature. https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1247
Eric M. Seleznow
Average age of US apprentices is 30, in Europe it’s 17. As for the great resignation, career changes, dislocated workers, yes— apprenticeship is a pathway better careers - which leads us to providing support services to ensure persistence and completion.
Norman Henry
Seems like funders can help facilitate building apprenticeship opportunities in partnership with community based nonprofits and community colleges in serving young men with prior criminal record.
Annika Little
NELP resource Andrea mentioned … chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/viewer.html?pdfurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nelp.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FNELP-Safer-Toolkit-Healthcare-Employer-Guide-Hiring-People-with-Arrest-Conviction-Records.pdf&clen=7694241&chunk=true
Leah Mayor
Great program. Excited to see and share in this converesastion.
Eric M. Seleznow
@Norman - yes you can. With men and women. I wouldn’t start out with this population - suggest figuring out the right industry, occupation, barriers and requirements for entry. Also important to understand the program and the demands on worker so we don’t them set up failure.
Jennifer Carlson
Totally agree Eric
Michael Iyescas
Jennifer and Patricia, are you doing any work with WFSDallas currently around opportunity youth? My apologies if this question has already been answered.
Jennifer Carlson
Jennifer Carlson
Leah Mayor
Eric M. Seleznow
Happy Apprenticeship Week!
Eric M. Seleznow