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Caroline Benn Memorial Lecture - Shared screen with speaker view
Frank Newhofer
35:28
yep - not many people with that name Ian- how are you
Penny Hay
35:54
Such a moving and powerful introduction, thank you. Melissa you must come back to Bath Spa University again next year, your creative education debate was just brilliant!
Terry Wrigley
48:06
Really stimulating. Not just collective structures, this regime is removing children in all their material and social being - leaving just data and alienated labour for teachers and students
penelope jane Shallice
01:02:13
In 1982 the ILEA had established a multi ethnic inspectorate in 1979, and following the uprisings in 1981, called on all schools - with support, to produce antiracist policies. This when the GLC under Livingstone had been focussing on a response to the black population of Londoners and when ALTARF and other organisations were becoming increasingly important and the NUT responding to concerns of members.
Penny Hay
01:07:24
Yes to creativity, wellbeing, care, compassion, collaboration and community .. hope for a different kind of educational future.
Gemma Moss
01:08:35
That's absolutely right, Ken, an ethics of care has been front and centre during the pandemic for teachers, because at the local level it must be. Blogposts and direction from the DfE can't hide this or sweep it out of sight
Daniel Reilly
01:17:35
Are we being driven to locate more strongly our fight for ‘decolonising the history curriculum’ by the hostility from the establishment and central government, in local groups coming together?
Daniel Reilly
01:18:52
From Danny Reilly NEU Plymouth: Are we being driven to locate more strongly our fight for ‘decolonising the history curriculum’ by the hostility from the establishment and central government, in local groups coming together?
Penny Hay
01:19:31
QUESTION, Ken that was so brilliant, please can you expand on the importance of creativity, wellbeing, care, compassion, collaboration and community .. hope for a different kind of educational future - so needed now, not later.
Graham Mellors
01:20:07
I have come to the SEA partly through parent activism. I think there is a lot of support among parents for the kind of education system you describe because of their experience in COVID. How do you think we can better mobilise the voices of parents particularly from working class and other communities that generally get the worst deal?
Ruth Knox
01:21:00
How can we deal with the complete hollowing out of Local Authorities? They seem powerless at present.
Alasdair Smith
01:21:28
why won’t head teachers confront the government? why is it left to Marcus Rashford to lead the fight?
Naomi Burgess
01:22:11
be interested in your comments on the developments in inclusion of children with learning differences and disabilities who have been and continue to be effectively excluded from education and from mainstream education. It is an aspect of equalities in education that is generally neglected. whilst the children and families act did extend ‘entitlement’ to age 25, it nevertheless made entitlement harder to access and removed many national entitlements. thankyou
Gemma Moss
01:22:13
Marcus Rashford's campaign got huge public traction - it's led a reluctant government to have to row back on a line it thought it would hold
Nuala Burgess
01:23:41
Good point about Marcus Rashford - amazing how a public figure can bring people together with a very a simply message about free school meals and hungry children.
Terry Wrigley
01:23:42
Thanks for such a thoughtful perspective Ken. “Blight and revelation” I like that. Government without credibility. But how do we assist that collective process of rethinking schools?
penelope jane Shallice
01:24:53
Given that we are facing huge economic consequences of C19 and Brexit and a huge economic crisis - today the FT ’s front cover is warning of the crisis in public expenditure like in 45 - school funding will be substantially eroded … how can we prepare for such an onslaught whilst not giving upon on radical demands for educational change .
Alasdair Smith
01:25:08
Does Keir Starmer leadership mean Labour will retreat to Blairite education policy
karen wespieser
01:25:54
What impact could / should parents have in this argument? Does the risk of teachers and academics leading this call risk the Govian "blob" attack resurfacing?
Alyson Malach
01:27:29
Statistics around governance and teaching/principalship (individuals who are racially diverse) is poor in schools, colleges and universities. How can we address this?
Penny Hay
01:29:06
A creative oppositional movement sounds good
Gemma Moss
01:29:07
I wonder if finding a way of rebuilding a middle tier matters - and if so on what terms it could happen
Pippa Dowswell
01:29:15
Thank you very much Ken - I feel very inspired! I am a union rep and am working in an institution where the managers are very much going for business as usual. The staff are desperate to be treated with compassion and respect and we are very concerned about our current generation and the impact of COVID 19 on them. We are fed up with top down initiatives that are not consulted and inevitably don't work. The problems that we are facing sometimes seem to be completely overwhelming. So I'll just pick one issue - that is the 2021 A Level exams. It is a disgrace that our government has not yet made any move to change the plans for these exams - what can be done to increase the pressure on government to change their minds and develop a fair plan for this summer - a mix of teacher assessment, coursework, short exam with options and funding for students to retake the year if they wish to! (for example - my thoughts)? The NEU are putting pressure on - how about some from the Labour Party?
Chris Vince
01:29:31
Really interesting and thought provoking. many thanks
Pam Tatlow
01:31:18
Penny - my constituency party agreed a motion last night re exams on lines that upo
Terry Wrigley
01:31:27
From Essex to Hartlepool, councils are telling schools don’t both with the DfE covid helpline go to our local public health team. Maybe the local debate has to be done outside of the Council chamber?
Alasdair Smith
01:32:19
so when are we going to build a creative oppositional movement in education? Many put their hope in Corbynism but that has appeared to fail?
Penny Hay
01:32:34
Thanks Pam, do send any details
Pam Tatlow
01:32:49
You have suggested. Passed by 58 votes, with 1 against and 1 abstention. The only real debate was that we should go further i.e. shouldn’t just be for 2021. Will go to the Labour frontbencher.
Pam Tatlow
01:33:54
Will make sure exams motion is circulated. Doesn’t include primary assessment. We need to do something more on that.
Julie Hilling
01:35:45
the demands of Marcus Rashford are simple - feed children. how do we make the changes we seek easy to understand and simple to get behind?
Socialist Educational Association (SEA)
01:36:49
Link to new SEA book
Socialist Educational Association (SEA)
01:37:24
Reimagining education https://home.mycloud.com/action/share/010fd94e-5b3b-4a20-b227-d6952454e054
Carole Clohesy
01:39:38
Our message for the public should be that we want to save our schools and improve the experience of learning for all children. The Junior Doctors gained more support for their action when they stressed that they were acting in order to save the NHS. Thanks for a wonderful evening.
Terry Wrigley
01:39:42
Since head of biggest exam board says it can’t be fair, shouldn’t we be asking university sector for an alternative access based on teachers’ recommendations for those who’ve faced too many barriers. Something like this happens in scotland where young people who’ve been in care have right to a place
Graham Mellors
01:40:13
Yes -pisses me off that suggestions about bringing academies back into some form of LA control are dismissed as ‘messing with structure’ by the LP shadow education team. Reforms are a vital part of a more democratic, community based education system
Ellie Wood
01:41:39
as someone working in university admissions we would very much also appreciate some clarity from government about next summer's exams... Absolute nightmare this summer.
Pippa Dowswell
01:41:50
Thankyou Ken. I hope you are right and there will be a move on this soon. Both students and staff feel in limbo at the moment
Carole Clohesy
01:42:59
Adults with Learning Disabilities are expected to be in school and yet their doctors are disagreeing with Gov't advice and sending them letters to warn them to stay at home.
Pippa Doran
01:43:26
private contractors setting up special schools in shop units and industrial estates - this is not education
Pam Tatlow
01:43:54
Some university vice-chancellors have said that next year’s exams shouldn’t proceed. Unis would accept gr
Pam Tatlow
01:44:08
Non-exam grades.
Terry Wrigley
01:45:14
Well they drove Rasputin out of Downing Street last week!
Gemma Moss
01:45:17
Ken Baker is calling for abolishing ebac and progress 8!
Pam Tatlow
01:45:20
Very many thanks Melissa, Ken, SEA and all. Need to leave for another zoom meeting!
Harry Madgwick
01:45:50
Harry Madgwick – EEF & NEU. Question: The attainment gap between FSM and non-FSM pupils is starting to widen, having somewhat closed since 2010. It’s likely this will be exacerbated by the current economic crisis. Clearly attainment outcomes should not dictate our work, but should we be being more bullish on pressing the government to invest more in the pupil premium, or are there other ways of funding support for disadvantaged pupils?
Nuala Burgess
01:46:57
An outstanding lecture from Ken Jones - one of the very best. What a wonderful tribute to Caroline Benn.
Terry Wrigley
01:47:09
Brilliant Ken, thanks you.
Naomi Burgess
01:47:28
thanks for your comment Ken. I am grateful for your observations, there is so much to do and to debate around Inclusion, what it means, and how we manage. It reflects our views about views about people and our narrow views of Equalities. Campaigning is zealous, but to little avail, partly because families are so bound up with caring and providing for their children. Further due to lack of proper training in education for SEN and disability
Carole Clohesy
01:47:55
Facing History and Ourselves in the US is very helpful
Ruth Knox
01:47:57
Thank you for a really inspiring lecture
Pippa Dowswell
01:48:15
Agreed Ken. All the centre does is put sticking plaster on the wounds of the right. We need a socialist government to ensure that there is a real equality of opportunity in society!
Thelma Walker
01:48:17
Thank you for an inspiring lecture Ken. Thanks too to you Melissa
Daniel Reilly
01:48:30
Thanks to SEA and Ken Jones for organising this excellent meeting Danny Plymouth NEU
Carole Clohesy
01:48:35
Thank you so much Melissa and Ken
Graham Mellors
01:49:32
Thanks Ken and everyone.
Jane Martin
01:49:40
Thank you so much Ken - that was so rich and interesting and inspirational in giving hope. A great lecture. Thank you to the SEA and to you Melissa.
Nuala Burgess
01:49:40
A great event. Thanks Melissa, James and Ken.
Harry Madgwick
01:50:27
Thank you Ken, very thought provoking