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Oliver (no pronouns)
39:08
oh! I spent some time digging around for potential roots to "Uri" (as in "arise Devorah")
Oliver (no pronouns)
40:52
the closest is likely ayin vav resh on p 1057 which lists to wake as well as to stir up, instigate, excite to lamentation, be lively, enjoy oneself, though there were a few similar ones on nearby pages
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
41:27
oooo love those (especially connect to Devorah as my namesake)
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
43:22
Both named Miriam - https://www.sefaria.org/Chagigah.4b.11
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
43:46
That's the Angel of Death story Virginia mentioned
Virginia (she)
44:37
yes, thx Olivia — that’s the story — Miriam raiser of babies vs. Miriam raiser of hair
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
49:24
yinz if you're in Pittsburgh :P
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
49:31
Philadelphish: youze
Virginia (she)
49:58
thx finnigan— that’s really helpful
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
50:09
spoken about
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
51:06
i
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
51:14
I/we
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
51:51
ani anochi?
finnigan (ze/hir, he/him)
52:01
ahhhh
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
52:16
you/youze
Sharon/Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
54:15
'you' being the most prescriptive option, and others being more descriptive! tho of course 'you' is also descriptive (going back to last class, talking about how we are focusing mostly on descriptive in this class)
Sharon/Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
54:50
and of course they/them can also be singular
Sharon/Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
56:33
(just since it wasn't said)
Oliver (no pronouns)
56:42
https://www.nonbinaryhebrew.com/
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
59:01
Just to step back a tad, I want to share an important comment anonymously: when we said "you and you to be super correct" it felt ouch for the validity of y'all and all other non-"normative" aka non-white supremacist american english
Oliver (no pronouns)
59:44
thank you for that comment! v appreciated
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
59:46
I appreciate that comment Olivia! that's a good thing to keep in mind. I was trying to address a similar thing with the comment about descriptive vs prescriptive
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
59:50
thanks for pointing that out. i meant it a bit ironically, but i recognize that if the irony doesn't go through, then what matters is how it's heard
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:00:04
my apologies :-)
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:02:19
chet
Joey C. he/him
01:02:21
chet
Sahar BH - they/them
01:05:17
Could the instructions be written down?
Sahar BH - they/them
01:05:23
Hard to remember
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:05:27
so I guess dont have the conjugation packet open haha
alex
01:07:39
you can find it in the portal!
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:08:51
https://svara.org/bm-portal-shared/hints-for-finding-the-root/
Amir Weg (he/him)
01:09:58
Looking at the Hints for finding the root sheet, fill out a paradigm table with the prefixes and suffixes associated with each subject and tense.
Amir Weg (he/him)
01:10:34
Use one table for each tense.
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:10:50
subject = singular/plural and m/f - yes?
alex
01:11:04
still working but mostly ok
Amir Weg (he/him)
01:11:26
yes, that's right
Ari Monts (they/them)
01:20:20
are the suffixes תם- and תן- like the pronouns אתם and אתן
Ari Monts (they/them)
01:20:47
(also can i get what page # we’re on in the workbook?
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:21:04
6 - but no present tense there?
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:21:31
yup, page 6
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:23:13
https://svara.org/program-portals/2021-summer-cfl-portal/guidebook/
Oliver (no pronouns)
01:28:55
thank you!
Beth (she/her)
01:31:18
probably good you didn’t call on me again because my whole screen froze for a minute lol
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:36:29
women collectively have no future?
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:37:09
OR women's future is so expansive it cant be concretely referred to
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:37:17
ha!
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:37:20
nice save
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:37:38
Ruth & Naomi - Biblical Bechdel-Wallace Test Pass
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:37:56
😂
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
01:39:53
Nonbinary Hebrew Project has offerings about Calling to the Torah here - https://www.nonbinaryhebrew.com/applied-uses
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
01:40:26
thx Olivia!
alex
01:46:22
isn’t there an infix for masc present? a vav in second position? or am i getting ahead of myself?
Leah Trachtenberg
01:47:22
@Alex, the infix is based on the binyan
alex
01:47:34
ahhh gotcha
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:48:50
i wonder if its phonological related to the preceding/following sound?
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
01:57:33
i forgot i was there for the first explanation haha
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:00:18
i like the level of agency we're putting in this story -- presumably these weren't real decisions, right? it was an evolution?
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:00:40
the book (future)
alex
02:02:04
gotta run friends! see you next week xx
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
02:02:29
Or committees get all prescriptive :-) eg in writing dictionaries or editors' style sheets
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:02:57
true! thinking about how modern Hebrew was created -- public competitions for how to name the planet Mars...
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
02:03:09
oooh cool example simchah!
Lisa Heineman (she/her)
02:03:16
thanks!!!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:03:58
i enjoyed it to! the charts are really helpful
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:06:55
page 15 at the top
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:07:53
https://svara.org/program-portals/2021-summer-cfl-portal/recordings/
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:07:54
what is on pg 15? i have diff page numbers
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:08:21
oh - kotaiv
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:08:57
thanks!!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:10:07
yeah im the same way amir, ive been trying to self-teach this grammar for a while now and its still sticky
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:10:09
im good!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:10:16
i really enjoy how this class is formatted
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:10:22
ive been having fun
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:11:53
repeating in different ways w different categorization styles really really helps. im excited!! i love tables!
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:12:26
ive been trying to help get stuff in by writing down pealim verb charts for words i find in the siddur
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:12:58
yes simchah that's what i found to!
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:17:43
i love tables tooo!!!
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:17:44
But it's ultimately out of the hands of "rule makers" b'h
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:18:00
amen it sure is, and i love that for us
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:18:27
amein and amein for the rule breakers!
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:20:23
i will admit - i reformatted the handbook so any one section is either one page, or one spread (two pages that are open at the same time) and it isn't really functional for the larger text, but for me, its way easier to use and understand (because i can see all the relevant info/charts on a topic at once
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:21:01
Feel free to send that to us to help with the future reformats~
Virginia Spatz
02:21:13
hmm, Simchah. Interesting. How things are laid out really matters to me, too,
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:21:28
i can do that olivia!!
Simchah [she/her] Hollenbach
02:21:43
if anyone else wants this version, i can email it
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:22:08
olivia@svara.org
Virginia Spatz
02:22:16
would love!! thanks vspatz@pobox.com
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:24:26
Jastrow marks these as "Part. Pass."
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:24:55
Part. pass. actually
Fairy Olivia (tech | they/them)
02:26:26
run a program
Oliver (no pronouns)
02:26:54
thank you very much for the grammar discussions!