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AEROx Virtual Conference - 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Fiona M
29:22:45
wow so fantastic....
Zineb Mouhyi
29:32:57
👏👏👏
Taryn Helper
29:33:06
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Taryn Helper
29:33:17
So brilliant Heather!!
Raj K
29:33:20
👏👏👏
Andrea Barrientos, PhD.
29:33:38
Very good. It would be great to have in Spanish...
Raj K
29:33:56
@Andrea - I was thinking the same thing! I'd love this in Spanish!
Erin
29:35:06
Is the idea that there should not be schools?
Carl Unschooling School
29:35:38
No it is that schools should provide the learning environment that works for all learners
Judy Arnall-Unschooling STEM
29:35:43
Schools get great equipment that my kids would have loved to use.
Ellen Cool
29:35:43
Bravo! Unschooling school has come so far so fast! Thank you all for this important work.
Erin
29:35:57
So school choice not actually unschooling.
Carl Unschooling School
29:36:18
https://www.unschoolingschool.com/index.html
Liz Campbell
29:36:19
The main idea is that we should be able to use the schools and all the resources to support the needs and interests of all learners. The schools stay but the structure changes.
Stephanie Sewell
29:36:26
Unschooling as a concept, but within the school building/system
Taryn Helper
29:36:59
Brilliant!!!!
Peter Berg
29:38:11
Everyone can go to view at top of screen
Peter Berg
29:38:17
and readjust the size
Erynn Albert
29:39:57
It seems that the idea is that “schools” and all their resources, buildings, workshops, darkrooms, etc.. should work for and adjust to families rights and needs instead of the other way around… We should be able to choose and use what we want and need and be able to say “No thank you” to the rest. Without negative consequesnces . Freedom to use and choose.
Lynne
29:40:16
How can we use the schools as resource centers without the children taking on the negativity from the pushback they will get from the administrators in the school?
Stephanie Sewell
29:40:20
@Erynn. Yes. We do pay for them after all :)
Liz Campbell
29:40:25
@Erynn, exactly!
Carl Unschooling School
29:40:25
@erynn yes absolutely
Naim Sanders
29:40:36
Love it!
Peter Berg
29:40:43
School buildings as resource/community centers
Stephanie Sewell
29:41:00
@lynne - that is the question! We have examples of this happening, and need to raise those voices so that more examples can happen
Learn Beyond The Book/Elmarie Hyman
29:41:32
Do schools already accept this IEP?
Carl Unschooling School
29:41:36
we have weekly zoom meetings at noon on Tuesdays on a variety of subjects.
Liz Campbell
29:41:44
@Lynne, great question and that is why we have an educators section and offer support and sessions to guide educators. There are many educators in the system who want to change and just don’t know where to start.
Stephanie Sewell
29:41:57
Not formally. However, it is offered as a tool for those who want to explore this for and with their kids.
Zineb Mouhyi
29:42:58
Those are amazing resources and such a great project, Heather!!
Taryn Helper
29:42:59
plz post a link to ur Tuesday chat. can any of us join?
Erin
29:43:11
Unschooling is expensive. I don’t think my local schools could afford the concept. I spent $32K on my classroom to be the unschooling teacher resource that my students needed.
Jimmy
29:43:57
@Erin I don't see why it would be expensive. You're not required to buy anything. Just let the kids be free.
Carl Unschooling School
29:44:02
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88543239258
Carl Unschooling School
29:44:12
that is the link to the Tuesday zoom call
Erin
29:44:12
In BC, many parents become “businesses” in order to write off the cost of unschooling when a learner is interested in traveling, and 3D printing, and laser cutting, and other passions that can be supported at a school.
Peter Berg
29:44:17
Could we use the money that already goes through the system
Peter Berg
29:44:32
there’s billions of dollars
Ellen Cool
29:44:56
Are the Tuesday meetings at noon eastern time?
Liz Campbell
29:44:58
@Peter, exactly!
Stephanie Sewell
29:45:03
@ellen. Yes
Liz Campbell
29:45:09
Yes ET and open to all
Erin
29:45:10
Our classrooms get $100/year for supplies, resources. We barely bought stickers. ;)
Taryn Helper
29:45:46
This is GENIUS!!!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Zineb Mouhyi
29:45:54
That’s an incredible proposal!!
Ellen Cool
29:47:17
Changing the system within the system
Peter Berg
29:48:15
It’s the future and Covid is going to accelerate this
Stephanie Sewell
29:48:17
I think that you have to do it in collaboration, with an agreement with the school setting. Not unilaterally. There will likely have to be compromises at least at first. @judy
Erin
29:49:17
I hope to create a vision of how this could happen where I live on $100/year/classroom funding. The first 25 students enrolled pay the teacher salary. So in K-3 where the class size is 22, there’s already a financial deficit just having a teacher. Is the idea that there do not need to be teachers?
Richard Fransham UCY
29:49:30
This video of Derry Hannam talking about “Responsible Subversives” helps to define the kinds of educators I would want my grandchildren to encounter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze_MrATumjI
Zineb Mouhyi
29:49:45
So sorry to have to leave. Such a fascinating talk and conversation and hoping to collaborate very soon!
Peter Berg
29:50:04
Thank you for coming ZIneb !
Peter Berg
29:50:10
abd presenting !
Jimmy
29:50:28
@Erin Why would there be only $100 per year per classroom?
Stephanie Sewell
29:50:58
@erin, there need to be teachers, but I think the costs could be similar or less than the current set-up.
randi she/her
29:51:08
free learner pods
Peter Berg
29:51:25
@ Diane that’s similar to what I do
Erin
29:51:26
@Jimmy, because schools are funded at $4K/kid. The $100 actually comes from parents fundraising.
Raj K
29:51:33
I was thinking the same thing, Diane....
Carl Unschooling School
29:52:15
this idea could funnel more money to public schools because some families that have left might return if their needs would be met at public schools
Marsha UnschoolingSchool.com
29:52:16
@Erin - where are you located that school per pupil rate is $4k/student?
Erin
29:52:42
British Columbia.
Raj K
29:53:01
This is a GREAT idea... I've always thought about how ideal it would be if SDE centers could use all the resources of the public schools... and this is getting there.. in that direction.. I think initially, it would be an experiment... how does it work out? Being the only child that is FL in a school or in a class... might not work like we think, because that child may feel isolated, may still be in same-age classrooms, etc.
Terry Stafford
29:53:05
That’s a major goal of my WIldwood Centre — to give homeschooling kids a community. Kids come to Wildwood only one day a week (I operate three days a week, with different kids each day) but they become a very cohesive learning community.
Marsha UnschoolingSchool.com
29:53:21
@Erin - that’s what I thought, but then I also thought you said Alberta.
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
29:53:52
more freelearners!
Carl Unschooling School
29:54:05
my experience is that younger people don't avoid difficulty - they pursue passions.
Liz Campbell
29:54:19
Yes, Carl!
Brigid she/her
29:54:27
NYC gives approx. 15k per child to private childcare providers of UPreK & U3K…
Terry Stafford
29:54:37
Which is exactly why I fear schools will not go for it — it would undermind the traditional classroom’s rules.
Carl Unschooling School
29:54:53
sometimes their choices are puzzling to olders but not easy
Sabrina
29:56:27
I imagine this idea will bump up with political realities of federal/ state funding. Is the push to establish these schools similar to publicly funded Montessori schools, where the full school is one pedagogy.
Carl Unschooling School
29:56:29
@Terry - we are hoping that schools will realize that they don't have a choice when enough people embrace the free learner desigation
Terry Stafford
29:56:57
I hope so, Carl!
Brigid she/her
29:57:00
Students today refer to knowing how to ‘Do School” How great to give them the legit opportunity to say “I don’t do school school does for me.”
Stephanie Sewell
29:57:01
With freedom comes responsibility. Responsibility creates structure of a kind that would be helpful for many.
Carl Unschooling School
29:57:06
We are not asking for new schools - we are asking for the schools that exist change
Gayle Hanlon
29:57:16
She says thank you for that answer because she wishes that could have been in a class with teachers and support staff who were able to reach her.
Peter Berg
29:57:26
@Carl what schools really should be
monica truong
29:58:21
@Richard. Great point about kids who need structure.
Peter Berg
29:59:05
When kids / humans are given they find natural structure
Lynne
29:59:11
Freedom does not mean no structure. It means the student has agency over the learning. There can be a great deal of structure.
Peter Berg
29:59:15
*given freedom
Brigid she/her
29:59:53
Yes Richard we need parents!