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Dual Enrollment for Equitable Completion Research Webinar - Shared screen with speaker view
Scott Trippel
12:26
Good morning!
Cullen Fowler-Riggs
12:33
Good Morning!
Minda Stackelhouse Ed.D.
12:38
Good morning!
Michael Bagley
12:42
Happy to be here. Thank you.
Eliseo Gonzalez
13:24
good morning folks
Sara Clark
13:37
Good morning!
Dr. Rafe Edward Trickey, Jr.
14:32
Good morning!
Aurora Thompson
14:50
Good Morning
Nayeli Chaidez
14:55
Good morning everyone! Nayeli Chaidez here from Sacramento City's Early College Program
Yvonne Munoz
15:04
Hello Everyone!
Eliseo Gonzalez
15:21
Eliseo Gonzalez Oxnard College
Adam Gottlieb
15:25
Good morning! Adam Gottlieb, from UNITE-LA
Glenn Miller
15:26
California Dept. of Education
Adelfa Lorenzano
15:26
Good Morning from Reedley College
Aurora Thompson
15:26
Aurora Thompson, Nevada Joint Union High School District
Tanya Meyer
15:29
Good morning. Tanya Meyer, K14 Technical Assistance Provider, K12 SWP Program North Far North Region
Beth Kelly
15:30
Hello everyone! This is Beth Kelly from Kentucky Center for Statistics.
Michael Minnick
15:31
Here from Woodland Community College!
Wesley Whitaker
15:36
Wesley Whitaker, Asm. Jacqui Irwin
Elizabeth Loudon
15:37
Elizabeth Loudon Lake Tahoe Community College
Cecilia Morales
15:39
Good morning!Cecilia Morales, The San Diego Foundation
Liora Gubkin
15:40
Good morning. Logging in from CSU, Bakersfield.
Melissa Reeve
15:41
Hello! Melissa Reeve, Solano Community College English and ESL
Minda Stackelhouse Ed.D.
15:41
Minda Stackelhouse- Oro Grande School District (Southern Ca)
Naomi Castro
15:42
*waves* hello from Naomi Castro, Career Ladders Project
Dr. Rafe Edward Trickey, Jr.
15:43
Representing the North San Diego County Promise, from Oceanside. CA.
Joanna Mathias
15:43
Hi! Joanna Mathias UC Davis
Linda Collins
15:45
Good morning from Career Ladders Project
Carolynn Washington
15:46
Carolynn from Sacramento CA
Karri Hammerstrom
15:46
Good morning! Karri Hammerstrom, Fresno K-16 Collaborative
Chris Piercy
15:48
Good morning, Chris Piercy Victor Valley College
Diane Rodriguez
15:51
Good afternoon from Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Juan Alvarez
15:51
Good morning! Juan Alvarez - Norco College
Michael Bagley
15:58
Good morning from Yuba College
Alicia Caddell
16:00
Good Morning from the Folsom Cordova USD!
VICKY MARTINEZ
16:05
Good morning everyone. Victoria Martinez, Dual Enrollment Coordinator Fresno City College.
Albert Pando
16:05
Good Morning, Albert Pando, Liberty High School, Madera, CA
Rogeair Purnell
16:05
Hello all from Hayward, CA.
Elizabeth Zamora
16:12
Elizabeth Zamora from Bright Prospect in Pomona California.
Megan Lowery
16:13
Good morning. Megan Lowery, Stanislaus Cradle to Career Partnership/ Stanislaus County Office of Education
Yuri Goda
16:15
HI from San Mateo
Dan Chernow
16:19
From California Coalition for Public Higher Education
Shawnie Dockery
16:20
Good morning! Shawnie Dockery at Foundation for the Los Angeles Community Colleges (LACCD)
Davis Jenkins
16:30
Good Morning Davis Jenkins, CCRC.
Ginny Chung
16:31
Good morning! Ginny from Lemoore Middle College High School.
Maureen Sinclair
16:32
Good Morning! Maureen Sinclair from Norco College.
Laurencia Walker
16:34
Good morning! Laurencia Walker, Hartnell College
Lupita Alcala
16:35
Good morning from WestEd Sacramento!
Cristine Tapia
16:35
Cristine Tapia, Napa Valley College
Stephen Bass
16:35
Good morning! Stephen Bass, District Office Institutional Effectiveness and Research, San Diego Community College Office (SDCCD)
Sarah Hooker
16:40
Good morning everyone, Sarah Hooker from JFF
Simon Sultana
16:41
Hello. Simon Sultana, Reedley College
Teala Daniels-Cabral
16:47
Teala Daniels-Cabral, University of California, Office of the President
Mitchell Booz
16:51
Good Morning. Mitch Booz... East Village MCHS @ San Diego City College
Sarah White
16:53
Sarah White, Madera Unified School District
Sarah Gonzales
17:14
Sarah Gonzales, Orenda Education
Adrienne Grayson
17:17
Greetings! Adrienne Grayson from Riverside City College
Yvette Gullatt
17:40
Good morning - Yvette Gullatt, University of California Office of the President
Heather Fontanilla
17:43
Heather Fontanilla, Mt. Diablo Unified School District, Administrator, Career Pathways & Middle College Program
Jhenai Chandler
17:45
Jhenai Chandler, Education Strategy Group
alice montes
18:17
Good morning everyone! Alice Montes Senior Legislative Aide for Assemblywoman Aguiar-Curry
Neal Finkelstein
18:18
Good morning - Neal Finkelstein from WestEd.
Darriya Starr
18:19
Good morning! (Darriya Starr, Public Policy Institute of California)
Claudia Morales
18:49
Good morning! Claudia Morales from the UC Berkeley Center for Educational Partnerships
Roneeta Guha
18:52
Good morning! Roneeta Guha, Linked Learning Alliance
Abel Guzman
18:57
Good morning- Abel Guzman with Wonderful Education (The Wonderful Company)
Anna Alvarado
18:58
Good Morning - Sebastien Chaubard from the California EDGE Coalition
Janice Sewell
19:02
Janice Dominguez-Sewell, HS Dual Enrollment & Work-based Learning, Chaffey College
Allie Carreon
19:15
Happy Tuesday! Allie Carreon with the Pasadena Community Foundation
Carlos Arredondo
19:39
Good Morning! Carlos Arredondo, Fresno Unified School District
Leslie Wisdom
19:42
Good morning! Leslie Wisdom, K14 TAP, San Diego Imperial Regional Consortium.
Sorrel Stielstra
19:57
Hi, Sorrel Stielstra--Growing Inland Achievement
Suzanne Lyons
20:06
Hi everyone! Suzanne Lyons, New York University Doctoral Fellow
Tanna Neilsen
20:21
Good morning! Tanna Neilsen, Butte College Dual Enrollment Program Administrator
Cynthia Holmsky
20:33
Hi everyone, Cynthia Holmsky, the Bright Futures Education Partnership, a cradle to career partnership in Monterey County.
Rona Zollinger
20:50
Dr. Rona Zollinger - Bay Area Community College Consortium K12 Pathway Coordinator
Dan Storz
20:56
Good morning. Dan Storz, Linked Learning Alliance
Josh Hagen
21:11
Good morning everyone! Josh Hagen with the Campaign for College Opportunity
Alecia Eugene-Chasten
22:24
Good Morning Everyone, Urban Advocates & Achievers "Stop" the School-to-Prison-Pipeline and the Pipeline-to-Education-Opportunities! We support dual enrollment and want to partner. Alecia K. Eugene-Chasten, Founder/CEO www.theurbanadvocates.org (916) 644-2994 We Education First Responders in the field.
Angelica Moore
23:26
Good morning All! Angelica Moore, UC Office of the President, Admissions
Alison De Lucca
24:00
Good morning, all! Alison De Lucca with the Southern California College Access Network (SoCal CAN)
andrew avila
29:25
Andrew Avila, Improve Your Tomorrow
Sherrie Reed
29:50
Wheelhouse DE Report: Appendix of County-level Stats: https://education.ucdavis.edu/sites/main/files/file-attachments/a_rising_tide_county_appendix_final_2_1.pdf
Ria Bhatt (she/her)
32:11
Please enter any questions you have for our panelists into the chat. We will address them toward the end of the webinar.
John Hadad
32:58
What is the difference between HS-CCC Mixed and Combination?
Dante Golden
33:35
Dantè Golden, Legislative Aide, office of Senator John Laird
Melissa Reeve
34:17
Are the "HS Only" courses typically offered on HS campuses, or on CC campuses in "middle college" type programs? Or both?
John Stark
35:44
Why is there a push for the "high school only" DE classes? Doesn't this limit the benefit of the students truly identifying as college students?
Tinisha Davis
35:51
What has been the barrier to getting more formal dual enrollment opportunities?
Allie Carreon
36:12
Are there any capacity issues for community colleges to add high school students to enrollment?
Eliseo Gonzalez
36:20
Is there a system where we can track students from HS through college?
gary yee
36:31
Why is the success marker comm college transfer? Why not terminal comm college degrees, esp. CTE?
John Hadad
37:06
Yes
Naomi Castro
38:54
@Tinihsa and @Alle - there are a number of barriers, and many partnerships are working through those - instructor and support staff capacity, misunderstandings about compliance issues, a cumbersome enrollment process …. but there are amazing partnerships who are providing creative ways to minimize or eliminate barriers
Mitchell Booz
40:54
Is a link to this slide presentation available?
Olga Rodriguez
42:25
PPIC report is available here: https://www.ppic.org/publication/dual-enrollment-in-california/
Michal Kurlaender
43:07
@johnhadad Combination means students are enrolled in both HS Only courses AND courses that have that HS-CC mix.
John Hadad
43:31
TY!
Mitchell Booz
44:34
Non-transferrable courses can also include pre-recs required by the partner college in Math and English pathways
Cecelia Danielsen
44:45
do we know why latinos and blacks do not enroll in college as much as Asians and whites
Michal Kurlaender
44:59
@JohnStark, it’s not either/or, it’s that these HS Only courses could expand access to DE for students who may not be participating independently
Tanya Meyer
45:01
Unfortunately, I have to go right now, but would love the recording!
Sherrie Reed
45:10
Wheelhouse Full Set of Dual Enrollment reports can be found here: https://education.ucdavis.edu/leg-college-0
Susanna Cooper
46:02
@Mitchell Booz: Wheelhouse will post the presentation here sometime in the next few days on this page: https://education.ucdavis.edu/leg-college-0
Mitchell Booz
47:00
Vocational/CCTE programs often sponsored by industry partners specifically due to a lack of trained professionals in that industry and access to high paying vocations
Melissa Reeve
48:27
Don't ECHS & MCHS students complete AA degrees concurrently to HS diploma? If so, is it surprising that nearly half of them would still enroll in 2-year colleges after graduation?
Naomi Castro
48:28
There is such a wide range in CTE/CE careers, degrees and certificates - from very high wage to very low wage - and of course many CTE/CE courses are transferable
Naomi Castro
51:43
Such a good point PPIC! CCAP should be in alignment with AB 705
Wesley Whitaker
51:47
thank you for the highlighting the intersection with AB 705!
Mitchell Booz
51:59
@ Melissa Reeve Not all ECHS/MCHS students are AA completers at time of graduation
Joanna Mathias
52:31
Do instructors on HS campuses have to have K12 teaching credentials as well as the masters required for community colleges?
Mitchell Booz
53:00
@ Joann Mathias... No
Elizabeth Loudon
53:24
Not Joann unless it's specifically a condition in the CCAP MOU.
Stephen Bass
53:26
Does the idea that AB705 and CCAP should be aligned mean that community colleges are completely out of the business of remediation? Apologies if that question is a bit roughly worded. I think AB705 means one thing for students who have graduated high school, not sure if it should or does mean the same thing for current high school students
Cynthia Herrera
54:12
Great point Stephen!
Eva Blanco
54:15
Olga, great presentation. Can you make your presentation available?
John Stark
55:08
I see and understand the large role of community colleges in the DE efforts. Is there a coordinated effort for the CSUs and UCs to join in this work?
Wesley Whitaker
56:07
@Stephen, data from AB 705 implementation so far has found that traditional remediation courses do not lead to increased success in gateway Math & English courses for any student groups, including DSPS, ESL, and others. Enrollment directly in credit-bearing courses with corequisite supports will be the default placement policy under full AB 705 implementation.
Noah Levinson
58:30
I see Stephen's point. Those classes wouldn't necessarily be remediation for high school students (i.e. students wouldn't be behind if they were taking an "Algebra 2"-level college course in 9th or 10th grade).
Noah Levinson
58:45
Or even 11th or 12th grade
Mitchell Booz
59:42
@ Tressa Overstreet & Robert Pimentel... do the Fresno K12 district and CC district have shared positions such as a college counselor funded by both institutions?
Stephen Bass
01:00:00
@Wesley - absolutely. All that data (or most) is for first-time to college students who are working towards transfer or a degree. In my mind, the same premise may not directly apply to high school students who are also working towards a high school diploma. On one hand, maybe it does because they're taking college level courses. On the other, as Noah indicated, are we certain there is no benefit to instruction from the colleges at the high school level to high schoolers? Maybe we are, but I don't know that we've established that premise in the legislation.
Ria Bhatt (she/her)
01:00:57
Hi everyone, we will send a follow up to registrants with the publications and recording.
andrew avila
01:01:06
Thank you Ria!
Dr. Rafe Edward Trickey, Jr.
01:01:44
Thank you so much (rtrickey@nsdcpromise.org)!
gary yee
01:02:08
Naomi! Nice to be here with you and so many other DE practitioners and re-designers. We’ve moved systematically toward including DE in nearly every Career Academy in OUSD; it’s a concrete evidence of college and career readiness. Yes! Green Soup! I have a secret spot in Oakland, where I am happy to slurp with you!!
Wesley Whitaker
01:02:33
@Stephen, ah I understand now. That's a good point and I will need to look into it further. Feel free to email me at wesley.whitaker@asm.ca.gov if you'd like to discuss further!
Robbie Kunkel
01:02:47
Thank you; much appreciated, Ria.
Sarah Hooker
01:03:30
So excited by the innovative work happening in Fresno! Kudos to Tressa, Robert, and their teams.
Noah Levinson
01:03:45
Great discussion and presentations. Thanks, all.
Naomi Castro
01:05:48
Very clear vision - that you @DrLowe
Robert Pimentel
01:06:20
@Mitchell Booz, hi there... We currently don't have a liaison that goes back and forth but it has been in our plans to have someone. We wrote a grant through college futures and a position was a part of this plan. COVID did not allow us to make that hire but we have done some similar things though the k-16 collaborative
Linda Collins
01:07:02
yes, we need to integrate dual enrollment within an overall equity-minded college completion strategy. thankyou Dr, Lowe
Tinisha Davis
01:07:19
Guided Pathways and structure really helps students of color and parents understand the dual enrollment process
Mitchell Booz
01:07:38
@Robert P. Thank you. Yes, I met Tressa at a conference and had a conversation about that effort a while back
Mitchell Booz
01:08:38
Is the K16 Collaborative a joint K12/CC district group that connects regularly?
Cecelia Danielsen
01:11:31
how new is the dual enrollment program and do we know if this program is working
Melissa Reeve
01:12:10
Building on Stephen Bass's earlier question: have "remedial" (from college standpoint) math and English classes as well as ESL classes offered at dual enrollment NOT been found to increase later college enrollment among the students who participate?
gary yee
01:12:44
Please balance explicit project goals of four year transfer with CTE completion. For us in k-12, it’s not just 4 year college ready, but career and community ready
gary yee
01:13:08
Nice to see Career Ladders Project here too!
Elizabeth Loudon
01:13:47
YES. Access with success in order to ensure academic harm is avoided and academic confidence is built!
Wesley Whitaker
01:14:02
great point, Tressa! Especially in Math where confidence is everything
John Stark
01:14:05
Yes, DE has great promise, but in getting the cart behind the horse, how do we supply the qualified teachers - especially at the high schools. "Qualified" goes beyond just having the right masters degree. Research has shown that allowing students to see "like others" as their teachers is critical in career choice - for example, females enroll in and pass STEM DE courses at the same rate as males, but three months later, when it comes to college enrollment, they are far less than half of the STEM degree seekers. So, how do we get qualified, female, and people of color into programs to create qualified teachers?
Naomi Castro
01:14:36
@john +1
Tressa Overstreet
01:14:51
The food pantry feeds our students
Sarah Hooker
01:15:16
Thanks Dr. Lowe, that’s a huge opportunity to bring in dual enrollment students to the full set of supports embedded in the Guided Pathways reform agenda
Linda Collins
01:15:26
@john+2
gary yee
01:16:18
Where is the explicit consideration of Linked Learning initiatives, does Fresno USD use Linked Learning? DE is an important component of LL in Oakland, not the other way around. It’s an important k-12 ally in this work.
Naomi Castro
01:17:40
@serene - California Community Colleges transfer students to 4 years, and also offer certificates and degrees in the trades - including medical trades
Naomi Castro
01:18:00
And also have 2 year degrees - we do it all!
Eva Blanco
01:19:07
Are there any models of dual- or planned concurrent enrollment with 4-year colleges aimed at college completion?
Diane Hollems
01:19:11
It will also be important to consider the K12 Strong Workforce Program grants. Grantees are encouraged to offer Dual Enrollment. These grants are targeted toward Career Education.
Naomi Castro
01:19:33
@Eva - yes - many!
Eva Blanco
01:20:33
@Naomi can you send me info./links. I'd like to learn more. eblanco@scu.edu
gary yee
01:20:51
Diane: one of the pioneers of high quality, systematically implemented DE at Santa Barbara CC!!!!
Kim Harrell
01:22:03
Thank you for saying that!
Claudia Morales
01:22:18
+1 Dr. Lowe
Arika Spencer-Brown
01:22:27
Yes! A “NATURAL PART”!
Naomi Castro
01:23:17
Student Voices Video:https://youtu.be/TJetXENHf7g
Naomi Castro
01:25:39
Resources: more California research, case studies and a board game!https://www.careerladdersproject.org/areas-of-focus/dualenrollment/
Adrienne Grayson
01:25:43
Thank you for the link to the video, Naomi. CLP has been a great dot connector in dual enrollment work throughout the state.
Eliseo Gonzalez
01:33:32
cora training?
Adelfa Lorenzano
01:34:21
Reedley College partner, Sanger High School is very strategic in hiring of faculty who meet MQ's for the courses offered onsite.
Adrienne Grayson
01:35:04
@Eliseo - CORA (Center for Organizational Responsibility and Advancement) through San Diego State University
Robert Pimentel
01:35:14
https://coralearning.org/
Robert Pimentel
01:35:56
thank you Adrienne we use UCS for other things so i get them mixed up!
Adrienne Grayson
01:37:04
Yes, both institutions are great resources. https://race.usc.edu/
Tressa Overstreet
01:37:07
K-16 is supporting advanced degrees and out district is also supporting teachers earning advanced degrees.
Tressa Overstreet
01:38:57
We are collaborating with our CC to ensure advanced courses of study will meet minimum quals. Our CC Deans are great at reviewing graduate programs of study and the alignment with the CC academic departments
Tressa Overstreet
01:40:30
yes-Robert... some independent colleges do not accept DuE courses. Private/Independent colleges are all a bit different.
Robert Pimentel
01:41:37
My contact info in case anyone wants to reach out with any questions:
Robert Pimentel
01:41:43
Robert Pimentel
Robert Pimentel
01:41:52
robert.pimentel@fresnocitycollege.edu
Tressa Overstreet
01:43:26
We have developed a matrix of a-g with identified CC courses
Ria Bhatt (she/her)
01:43:41
Thank you all for joining in today. We will follow up with links, contact information, and the webinar recording.
Elizabeth Loudon
01:43:53
Tressa- I would love to see that. I've been developing something similar. Loudon@ltcc.edu
Naomi Castro
01:44:09
In terms of types of dual enrollment - we can think of them working together to provide scaffolded transitions. For example starting with a course taught at the HS by a HS teacher who is a college adjunct, then a course at the HS taught by a visiting professor from the college, then students can move to taking courses independently at the college
Michael Minnick
01:44:11
Thank you all so much. This was such great info and an amazing discussion.
Claudia Morales
01:44:20
@Tressa I would love to see the matrix as well. Can that be included in what you all share with us after the webinar?
Liz Cabeza
01:44:36
Thank you.
Naomi Castro
01:44:38
Thanks os much Wheelhouse and PPIC for such great work
Darriya Starr
01:44:41
Thank you!
Carolynn Washington
01:44:42
This was great, lots of useful information. I so appreciate the passion and commitment of all the presenters. I would also love to hear more from the students. Thanks so much.
Robert Frakes
01:44:43
Thanks!
Diane Hollems
01:44:43
Thanks to all!
Elizabeth Loudon
01:44:44
thanks so much
John Stark
01:44:47
Thank you to all for the presentations and information. The questions and responses were also very helpful!
Arika Spencer-Brown
01:44:47
Thank you!
Scott Trippel
01:44:50
Thanks!
Eva Blanco
01:44:51
thank you!
Mitchell Booz
01:44:52
Thanks
Darin Soukup
01:44:53
Thank you!
Tressa Overstreet
01:44:54
tressa.overstreet@fresnounified.org