Math Fact Fluency and Families Part 1
- Shared screen with speaker view
Aleta
36:25
Dan and Aleta May are now home and signed in! :)
Angela Bennett
37:05
I don't have sound. can anyone hear her?
ekorenek
37:15
Audio good
Belinda
37:17
I can hear!
dianakurka
37:18
Yes Angela!
Heidi Wright
37:23
Yes Hearing you
Maria Gutleben
37:31
No sound
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
37:36
I can hear but sound cut out for me and then kicked me off so I had to log back in
kryno
37:39
Kaleigh Ryno
Angela Bennett
37:43
got it now thnks.
Maria Gutleben
37:44
I was wondering when she was going to talk
helen lee
37:50
Helen Lee, 9-12, 13 years
katelyn sloan
37:53
Katie Currier, I am in Eagle River, AK. I have taught 4 years. I taught first my first 3 years and this year I am teaching a 1/2 combo
kryno
37:54
Special Education K-12. 11th year of teaching
Angel Atkins
37:56
Angel Atkins, 5th-grade, 1st year
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
37:58
I teach k-5 in a 2 teacher school and this is my 8th year teaching
Jake Groll-Tununak
37:58
Jake Groll- LKSD 9 years
courtney scoby
37:59
Courtney Scoby, 5th grade and this is my 7th year teaching
Heidi Wright
38:05
Hello Heidi Wright - rural school K-12 grades and 35 years in education
morris white
38:09
Morris White, MS. Teaching 13 years, Teach secondary. Currently math specialist.
EJ Dorsey KWN
38:11
I’m EJ Dorsey, I teach 9-12 science, and this is my first year. And what a year it is!
Price_Krystal
38:12
Krystal Price, K-4, 14 years
ekorenek
38:16
Liz K-J (Elizabeth Korenek-Johnson) K-5 Principal, formerly 2-4 teacher (mostly 3)
Stephanie Brewer
38:18
I am in Fairbanks. Taught kindergarten for 7 years and now am a contact teacher with a homeschool program, so all ages
Angela Bennett
38:21
Angel Bennett 3rd grade 21 years teaching
lindsaysturm
38:22
Lindsay, K-2 in McGrath, teaching total 15 years, 2.5 in AK
Cara DeTurk
38:22
Hi, I’m Cara DeTurk. I live in Nuiqsut, AK. I teach 1st grade and this is my fifth year teaching.
joelle.gefre
38:22
Joelle, 5th grade, 7 years
Bonnie (Alaska)
38:24
Bonnie Franklin, 4/5th grades in Shaktoolik, 31 yearss
kfaulkner
38:24
Kimberly Faulkner, 3rd grade, 14th year teaching
Jamie Phan
38:25
Jamie phan…NSBSD for 3rd year; 10th year in education
Melissa
38:27
Melisa Zeltwanger from Wasilla. 10 years in first grade
Aleta
38:29
Presently teaching K-1 in Tuntutuliak. Been at LKSD almost 13 years. Taught in Oregon prior to coming to Bethel.
Gina St Clair
38:31
Gina St Clair Brevig Mission, 8 years teaching spread out since 1990
Dan May
38:31
Dan May Special Educator to Tuntutuliak
Belinda
38:35
Belinda Smith- I teach 3rd grade. This is my 11th year teaching.
Maria Gutleben
38:36
Got sound now.
Dan May
38:38
25 years
JENNIFER SCHMIDT-HUTCHINS
38:43
Hello & Happy Wednesday! Jennifer Schmidt-Hutchins 24 yrs. with Mat-Su School District 14 yrs in classroom, & 10 yrs. Administration K-8
sarahyates
38:45
Sarah. I have been teaching for 4 years. I teach 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
Frances Caole
38:54
Frances Caole in Quinhagak. I have taught 20 years. I am teaching 5th grade.
jerrihoward
38:55
Jerri Howard 5th grade Nunapitchuk 30 years teaching
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
38:58
Unalakleet AK. 7 years. K-12
Maria Gutleben
39:00
Maria /Gutleben- Going on 21 years with LKSD
Dan May
39:01
lol
Belinda
39:01
Val McLeod- teaches 3rd grade. This is her 13th year teaching.
Susanne
39:03
35 Years Teaching Special Education 3rd 4th 5th 27 Year. Preschool 6 Years.
Maria Gutleben
39:20
1/2 a year online
Angel Atkins
39:27
Yes, it is a big challenge for sure
Jacquie- Nunapitchuk
39:29
Jacquie Wood, LKSD- Nunapitchuk, My 18th year in LKSD-about 28 years altogether Special Education Teacher
Maria Gutleben
40:04
no
Dan May
40:04
Never before
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
40:06
never
EJ Dorsey KWN
40:07
Brand new
Susanne
40:08
no
Cara DeTurk
40:09
This is my first one.
ekorenek
40:09
None for me!
kfaulkner
40:10
No
katelyn sloan
40:10
Never before!
courtney scoby
40:10
No
Gina St Clair
40:11
never
Melissa
40:11
no
Angel Atkins
40:11
Brand new
kryno
40:12
I’ve not been in a session with you
Belinda
40:12
No for both of us.
Price_Krystal
40:13
no
pam wellspeters
40:14
No sessions.
Frances Caole
40:14
First time
Bonnie (Alaska)
40:14
No
JENNIFER SCHMIDT-HUTCHINS
40:14
My first webinar with you
Karry Betson
40:15
new
lindsaysturm
40:17
I did the fall fluency webinar
helen lee
40:19
new
Stephanie Brewer
40:20
new
Aleta
40:20
I have learned to teach online via Instructional Design and Technology, MA, Ed.
Heidi Wright
40:21
First time for me
Jacquie- Nunapitchuk
40:38
New to you
Aleta
40:43
Need math fluency!! Games for K-1 at home and at school
Susan
41:23
We are
Dan May
41:26
Great day being busy at school today
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
41:29
Students WANT to be better
pam wellspeters
41:34
I like using dice or cards.
ekorenek
41:39
Math fact fluency as daily warm-up
Cara DeTurk
41:44
My classes are smaller so I get more one on one time to work with my kiddos
Karry Betson
41:45
Some of my students no longer use their fingers for addition within 10!
Jamie Phan
41:46
Students love practicing in a variety of ways
Frances Caole
41:48
I use dice and cards also
Maria Gutleben
41:56
Paper rock math is fun
Heidi Wright
41:58
Fluency makes all math processes faster and less frustrating
kryno
41:58
5 min warm up and roll and records
Jacquie- Nunapitchuk
42:00
To help make things easier for the students in the upper math classes
Price_Krystal
42:02
xtraMath
EJ Dorsey KWN
42:02
High schoolers are totally willing to do elementary brush-up as long as I do it with them. It helps immensely!
joelle.gefre
42:09
Progress since school started - confidence I see growing
Stephanie Brewer
42:10
Daily warm up with fluency
Angel Atkins
42:11
Different options on how to learn the facts because not all students learn one way
kfaulkner
42:12
There are lots of way to practice
Susanne
42:12
I am going to teach our afterschool tutoring program. Need some fluency ideas.
Melissa
42:13
students are engaged and excited practice facts and playing games
Susan
42:14
Playing anagrams for adding point values to letters, and a new game (to me Roku Rum- adding tiles triplets and making runs as in Rummy.
Aleta
42:16
We really got into adding fluency for 1st grade just prior to that Covid nightmare
lindsaysturm
42:17
we play lots of quick little games
Belinda
42:33
Everyone can grow no matter where they are with fluency. Practice!
Aleta
42:45
Need a really good play dough recipie
Jamie Phan
43:16
providing more than one way to show mastery
Jamie Phan
43:29
No more “kill and drill” as the sole way
Maria Gutleben
43:30
Like what we did in the past or currently?
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
43:31
trying to make them fun to learn for students
pam wellspeters
43:34
using manipulatives
Aleta
43:43
With so much emphasis on math concepts, fluency seems to have fallen away
Gina St Clair
43:50
games
Melissa
44:01
setting time aside everyday to practice
Susanne
44:05
social games or game boards
Frances Caole
44:12
Timed math- competition!
Pamella Simpson
44:15
fractions
lindsaysturm
44:15
Fluency takes so much of the “work” or struggle out of the math concepts
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
44:24
Using manipulative and relating to seeing math everyday in the world
Gina St Clair
44:25
kids aren’t getting it.
Karry Betson
44:32
Helping kids understand why it’s important
Jamie Phan
44:32
taking the time to consistently build in to the schedule
kfaulkner
44:35
Making sure kids know thier basic facts
Maria Gutleben
44:37
Less hands on and more pushing concepts without mastery
Susan
44:47
expecting kids to learn multiplication in a month, in 3rd grade…it takes longer than that!
helen lee
44:47
Can you define ‘basic facts,’ for me please?
Dan May
44:52
Curriculum forcing teachers to “Hurry UP!”
Maria Gutleben
44:55
“They’ll get it later in the 2nd to zillionth time
Heidi Wright
44:56
Many students learn differently and some curriculums do no address this diversity in learning style
Susanne
45:16
Too many worksheets
Jamie Phan
45:29
sharing tutorials with parents on different ways to demonstrate fluency
Pamella Simpson
45:37
But don’t you need basic facts for fractions?
EJ Dorsey KWN
45:40
No allowances for student frustrations in the curriculum
Aleta
45:54
10 plus … 1-9 concept leading to fluency
Pamella Simpson
45:55
I’m not a math teacher. Trying to learn.
jerrihoward
46:32
Multiplication basic facts too?
Dan May
47:33
How to make 10
Maria Gutleben
47:34
yes
Jamie Phan
47:59
YES! Seriously the biggest hindrance when trying to do more complicated math…they are stuck on forgetting to borrow or still having to use fingers in upper elementary
Angel Atkins
48:24
Agree with you Jamie
Aleta
54:44
Yes, to me when someone says “Research says” it often means “I am right, arguably, because the research says”
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
55:28
A) Parents value their students’ self-image and ability to succeed post-graduation.
Angel Atkins
55:43
A
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
55:44
Sorry, I was composing and didn’t mean to send that/
Maria Gutleben
56:04
Family: A. Success and retaining of materials because they understand it. Mostly the feeling of success in the child.
Dan May
56:08
To hear how well they are doing. I’t just how I learned it. My kids will do better than we did growing up.
Aleta
56:28
b). When kids went home during Covid last spring, I was able to get a grandpa onboard with helping his grandson with math because it included a lot of fluency, and the concepts taught led toward fluency.
Jamie Phan
56:34
1.) That they get the right answer. 2.) that it is taught how they learned it because the new ways are too confusing/hard. 3.) most basic facts were taught through timed drills
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
56:44
career opportunities afforded to math professions, to teach with relation to STEM and apply to life, parents learned facts through drills and memorization
ekorenek
56:50
a) parents value their child’s success.
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
56:51
A) Parents value their students’ self-image and their ability to succeed post-graduation.
lindsaysturm
56:51
a) parents want kids to get it without struggling b)they expect them to learn the facts how they learned them c) memorization
katelyn sloan
56:55
success!
Angel Atkins
56:55
A) They value their students success and hearing how well they are doing
pam wellspeters
56:56
Their child is having fun doing their math.
Stephanie Brewer
57:01
Parents value their students enjoying math as many parents did not
Jamie Phan
57:04
They want their kid to get the right answer
Heidi Wright
57:05
Parents most value their children getting good grades and/or feeling successful
helen lee
57:07
Their child having a positive learning experience
Jake Groll-Tununak
57:08
A. math is essential skill it teaches problem solving
courtney scoby
57:09
That their child is learning and growing
Maria Gutleben
57:10
B. I think my parents were just happy that their kid was learning math and happy. C. I think parents struggle with math and didn’t have a good experience nor think the need to math
Karry Betson
57:10
Math that will help their child in the future & to have the future career they choose.
katelyn sloan
57:11
Their child being profecient and successful
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
57:13
1. That their student is going to use math in their every day life as adults
joelle.gefre
57:13
student success and their confidence
EJ Dorsey KWN
57:22
In my classes, the parents I hear from seem to be more worried about my performance than their students. It’s the grades they want, not the skills, I guess?
morris white
57:24
Parents most value that their children can do math successfully now and in subsequent years and in adulthood.
Susanne
57:28
That their child is able to compute math problems and word problems.
kfaulkner
57:29
Their child is not falling behind
kryno
57:29
a. with my parents I think that parents most value that their children are being taught successfully and in an engaging way. b. Parents don’t like the common core way c parents were drill and kill memorizing etc
Frances Caole
57:40
The child being able to apply what they learned to real life situations
Belinda
57:42
a) value a teacher who looks at math as a life long process and doesn't give up on a kiddo who doesn't get it
Susan
57:47
kids learn it better than they ddi when it was too hard…many ways to teach it
Mary Tester
57:52
Understanding math concepts vs. frustration
Melissa
57:54
Parents value their children understanding the problem and solving it successfully
Susan
58:35
Do not speed ahead if they cannot get it
Frances Caole
58:36
child being able to apply what they know to real lie situations
Pamella Simpson
58:37
I want my grandchildren to enjoy math
Angel Atkins
58:37
B) The way they learned math in school worked for them so it will work for their child as well. The common core way is not needed.
ekorenek
58:38
b. parents expect math is taught the way they learned. They struggle with multiple methods/processes/strategies.
Jamie Phan
58:41
It seems as if parents want math taught how they were taught—they don’t like the new ways.
katelyn sloan
58:48
Families want math to be hands on - I’m a primary teacher
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
58:48
B) Families expect math homework to be routine and to reflect what students have already learned.
helen lee
58:50
They expect it not to be fun
Pamella Simpson
58:51
I expect it to be taught the way I learned
Stephanie Brewer
58:52
They expect that students learn what they need to be successful later on
Karry Betson
58:55
They want it to be fun & hands on and something they can understand well enough to help with.
courtney scoby
59:02
They want it taught the way they learned it
Jamie Phan
59:05
Yes! I chuckle at that statement!!!
Frances Caole
59:10
Basic math- straight to the point - how they are taught
kfaulkner
59:15
Families want to understand how we teach math now compared to how they learned it
Heidi Wright
59:20
Math was hard for them so they expect it to be hard for their children
joelle.gefre
59:21
in a familiar way so they don’t feel out of the loop
EJ Dorsey KWN
59:26
“You can’t just CHANGE MATH”
Gina St Clair
59:30
They want to understand it.
morris white
59:34
They expect some memorization, they expect students to have homework to complete at home for them to see they are doing it, they expect their results to some home for they to see
Belinda
59:36
Our answer is exactly what everyone else said. :)
Melissa
59:42
Some parents think this is a "new kind of math"
Jamie Phan
59:56
Parents are boggled when they hear from their kids about playing grudge ball and other games and how much fun math can be
Pamella Simpson
59:58
BAD!
katelyn sloan
59:59
timed drills
Susan
01:00:02
lots of skill and drill
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:00:03
Traumatic - drill and kill
courtney scoby
01:00:06
Timed drill
Karry Betson
01:00:07
Boring, flashcards
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:00:09
Memorization, drills
Angel Atkins
01:00:09
C) It was memorization for them, or learn with flashcards
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:00:11
Rote memorization without understanding
Stephanie Brewer
01:00:12
Boring and timed and stressful
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:00:18
C) many parents real route memorization of both fluency and algorithms.
Jamie Phan
01:00:19
anxiety-riddled timed tests
pam wellspeters
01:00:28
Parents often let me know if they are good or bad at math.
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:00:29
Drill and practice
kfaulkner
01:00:32
They were not good at math
ekorenek
01:00:34
c) mad minute, flash cards, competitions were likely their experiences.
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:00:36
Drill facts
Mary Tester
01:00:55
Memorization drill work vs. understanding strategies
Susanne
01:00:56
Parents Math Worksheet - Timed Tests
Heidi Wright
01:00:58
Drill drill drill….. until you get it.
morris white
01:00:59
Parents experienced a search for the right answer and on average, their experiences were not good.
Belinda
01:01:29
drill and kill; I do remember having a lot of time to learn. I remember songs that made learning somewhat fun, and helped some facts to stick. :)
Susan
01:01:33
We had a really fun book in the 60’s that had windows you flip up for drawings and we had to tel the math. Idea…I loved it so much when I found the book I bought it
jerrihoward
01:01:52
I believe that when parents state they ‘were not good in math” they are referring to algebra, geometry, etc…Not elementary
Susan
01:02:13
12,45,15,48,21
Maria Gutleben
01:02:14
done
Jamie Phan
01:02:14
12 45 15 48 21
helen lee
01:02:15
12,45,15,48,21
kryno
01:02:16
13,45,15,48,21
Angel Atkins
01:02:24
12, 45, 15, 48, 21
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:02:25
12, 45, 15, 32, 21
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:02:26
12, 45, 15, 48, 21
Heidi Wright
01:02:26
12 45 15 48 21
kryno
01:02:27
ahaha 12.
Susan
01:02:47
Good on you Kryno to edit yours!
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:02:55
Good catch Kryno!
Susanne
01:03:05
12: 45: 15: 48: 21
Susan
01:03:14
done
Heidi Wright
01:03:34
done
Dan May
01:03:52
like it was a race!
ekorenek
01:04:10
Def. have some competitive types!
Maria Gutleben
01:04:23
I was thinking how I could group them to make me faster
Jamie Phan
01:04:52
I did partial products
Angel Atkins
01:04:53
Different methods
ekorenek
01:04:54
12 +90
Susan
01:04:54
5 X 49 is 5X 50-5
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:04:57
I regroup
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:04:57
I thought of 7 as 5 and 2,
lindsaysturm
01:05:00
Strategies to manipulate the numbers
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:05:02
I saved 2 for last
Jamie Phan
01:05:02
Repeated addition for 35x3
Dan May
01:05:04
Old school
joelle.gefre
01:05:04
different methods 8 x 10 plus 8 x 5
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:05:13
I thought of time with 4
Gina St Clair
01:05:16
95+5+2
morris white
01:05:19
I used different methods. I used the standard algorithm for #3.
Jamie Phan
01:05:27
I thought of it as time, too
joelle.gefre
01:05:28
different methods 8 x 10 plus 8 x 5
Susan
01:05:31
I’m teaching a bunch of this now so it is rote!
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:05:33
4: time
Gina St Clair
01:05:35
4 x 15 twice
Belinda
01:05:36
If not memorized, I'm always thinking about easy numbers.
Dan May
01:05:36
40 carry the 4
Maria Gutleben
01:05:37
8x10 +8x5
Aleta
01:05:38
95 + 7 really is 95 + 5 + 2=102
pam wellspeters
01:05:42
10x15 -30
Jamie Phan
01:05:47
Also thought 15x10 - 30
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:05:49
8*15 = 2 hours = 120 minutes
Angel Atkins
01:05:56
#4 I thought about a clock, each section is 15 min, 4 sections is 60 min double is 120
Susan
01:06:20
I like that one Angel
ekorenek
01:06:23
Yes! I’m only okay with the timer because I already know I can do it.
ekorenek
01:06:33
It still adds an edge
morris white
01:08:22
When you learn CORRECT strategies in K-3, you can grow FASTER and HIGHER in 3-6, IMHO.
Aleta
01:10:27
Timer is okay if some kids are not pushed to being timed until they feel more ready.
Jennifer Bay-Williams
01:10:30
Yes, Morris White!
Aleta
01:10:44
Teach me :). K-1
lindsaysturm
01:11:02
I like it :)
ekorenek
01:11:03
yes
Angel Atkins
01:11:04
Yes
Susan
01:11:04
yes
Belinda
01:11:05
yes
joelle.gefre
01:11:06
yes
courtney scoby
01:11:06
yes
Susan
01:11:09
Huge ones..
katelyn sloan
01:11:09
yes
Heidi Wright
01:11:12
No cards
Susanne
01:11:12
Yes
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:11:15
I like silent timers (like those little sand ones) because then you can say “if you feel ready, try to beat the timer!” Without being stressful to the less-confident learners
Susanne
01:11:21
no
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:11:21
…slow typist. I have cards though
Maria Gutleben
01:12:01
So all face cards are 0?
Aleta
01:12:09
Thank you EJ Dorsey! Our SA just ordered 1’ timers
Susanne
01:12:11
Cribbage??
Maria Gutleben
01:12:35
The 13 solitaire game
Aleta
01:13:04
Cribbage: 9 + 6 = 15; 10 + 5=15;
Heidi Wright
01:13:48
5 6
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:13:51
6/5
Angel Atkins
01:13:52
King is 13
lindsaysturm
01:13:54
6/5
Frances Caole
01:13:55
I can’t see your hand
Angela Bennett
01:14:07
cool game! I don't have cards, but I am going make some out of construction paper for the kids to play. :-)
Heidi Wright
01:15:03
8-1
lindsaysturm
01:15:08
8-1
Angel Atkins
01:15:34
I drew all queens LOL
Heidi Wright
01:15:41
6 2
Karry Betson
01:15:44
6+2
Maria Gutleben
01:15:55
6x2=12+1=13
Susan
01:16:07
3
Jamie Phan
01:16:11
Me: 3
ekorenek
01:16:21
9 points
katelyn sloan
01:16:26
7 points
Gina St Clair
01:16:29
6
Stephanie Brewer
01:16:31
3 points!
Melissa
01:16:32
10
ekorenek
01:16:32
OH! I did 5 rounds...
pam wellspeters
01:16:35
10
Maria Gutleben
01:16:53
This is cool. Share site?
Susan
01:17:19
I’ll bet people would donate cards to you OR write donors choose project to get them…
Maria Gutleben
01:17:22
The fire alarms are going off. I have to evacuate the building. I’’ll be back
Jamie Phan
01:17:42
What skills did you have to use?
helen lee
01:17:45
ASk them how they felt during the game?
Dan May
01:18:12
Feel better knowing you but ME!
Heidi Wright
01:18:13
How did you feel while playing the game?
kryno
01:18:16
aaask students for feedback what worked/didn’t work
lindsaysturm
01:18:16
Did it feel like you were doing math facts?
Gina St Clair
01:18:17
Did the symbols on the cards help you figure out the answers?
Jamie Phan
01:18:18
Ask how many facts were being learned?
courtney scoby
01:18:19
Did you change your strategy while playing the game
Angel Atkins
01:18:20
What strategies did they use when deciding on their 2 careds
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:18:20
Ask to name facts that add up to 13
Susan
01:18:20
What facts do you think your child(ren) now know they didn’t know before playing this game?
ekorenek
01:18:29
What thinking did you find yourself using?
morris white
01:18:36
How did the game make you feel?
Melissa
01:18:36
What did you observe or notice about math while playing the game?
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:18:45
Do you and your child approach this the same way?
Jamie Phan
01:18:48
What else besides just math is being learned?
pam wellspeters
01:19:17
What strategies did your child use the determine the cards to choose.
morris white
01:19:44
Comparing the worksheet and the game, which make you feel better, and which game made using math more interesting and engaging to you?
Susan
01:20:19
Frustrating if kids just cannot get it or if parents are pushing them to win
Jamie Phan
01:20:26
Takes more time, explanation
Susan
01:21:02
We’re playing this on Friday! Changing plans on the fly..
Maria Gutleben
01:23:57
Casinos sell cards for $1
Dan May
01:25:17
When my sister went to school, she had to memorize and I’ve seen K students memorize entire chapters from the Bible in a month’s worth of school, bu reciting 3 times a day: Morning, Lunch, before they go home.
lindsaysturm
01:26:18
we sing to memorize facts all the time in my K-2 class…the information sticks!
katelyn sloan
01:27:40
Because our district makes us
Karry Betson
01:27:41
I don’t use them but think it is an old habit
ekorenek
01:27:42
We don’t
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:27:43
Because they were used on us, so we assume they’re the best way
morris white
01:27:45
As all tests are timed, what are you referring to specifically?
Jamie Phan
01:27:45
Easy to administer, not a lot of time to explain directions or deal with kid shenanigans in a game
Angel Atkins
01:27:45
Because that is what has always been done
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:27:46
Creatures of habit and believe it builds fluency
Frances Caole
01:27:47
It is not all bad.
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:27:48
(I don’t use them)
courtney scoby
01:27:53
I don’t use them
kfaulkner
01:27:58
I don’t use them
lindsaysturm
01:27:58
I don’t either
pam wellspeters
01:27:59
don’t use them
helen lee
01:28:00
Know better than to stress my life skills students!
Susanne
01:28:02
I do not use time tests.
Maria Gutleben
01:28:05
Fluency test
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
01:28:08
Because we think it makes better use of classroom time. Worried about using up every second of the day.
Susan
01:28:10
Because some administrators demand to se results so we will understand where kids are…I do not use them because I know where they are since I’m in the room all day with them.
Angel Atkins
01:28:12
I don’t use them and my students thank me for it. I have been showing different straggles this week
Heidi Wright
01:28:13
To measure individual progress in math facts - not using anymore
Jamie Phan
01:28:18
(Don’t use) lol
Belinda
01:28:21
It's a change that needs to happen at the district level. Many of us our required to use the tests and use the data.
Gina St Clair
01:28:48
It is a part of our curriculum-Sprints.
Angela Bennett
01:29:10
I don't time them, not even on the math sprints
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:29:15
I don’t use them.
Dan May
01:32:31
how is fluency not directly related to rote memorization?
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:32:36
“I don’t care how fast they do them, I care that they understand *why* and *how* they do them.”
Susan
01:32:40
Do the speed facts papers, then play a fact game and ask parents which was more productive for them? Ask how did you feel for each? Does your child seem to do better with math when it is a game?
Heidi Wright
01:32:42
It equates to learning a skill like casting a fishing pole - the more you practice the better you get at casting
lindsaysturm
01:32:47
I think they are related
ekorenek
01:32:51
Explain what fluency is, and how it is different from memorizing.
courtney scoby
01:32:56
I care about they why and how of them learning their facts and their background understanding
Gina St Clair
01:33:04
Fluency included strategies while rote memorization is just numbers.
Jamie Phan
01:33:20
Modeling number talks being done how there are many strategies being used
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:33:22
Kids don't have to be fast to be fluent
kfaulkner
01:33:35
Teach families different strategies too
Maria Gutleben
01:33:37
So are we equalling fluency with automaticity?
lindsaysturm
01:33:45
I would compare it to building a muscle…the muscle needs to be useful in various situations, not just one movement
pam wellspeters
01:33:50
Give an example say what makes it hard to get 8X7? What are strategies to allow you to think of the answer?
Stephanie Brewer
01:33:51
Once students have fluency and can understand ways to get answers, they don’t rely only on memorization and can use their fluency in many more situations
Susanne
01:33:59
Have a discussion about strategies instead of memorization.
Maria Gutleben
01:34:43
So when we time students, we are testing automaticity and not fluency
Frances Caole
01:34:56
The students know and understand the why and not jus the how
Jamie Phan
01:37:31
If I could clap 1000x I would for that statement.
Jennifer Bay-Williams
01:41:20
Yes, Maria - exactly. If that is our only goal, then a test can do it…but we miss out on learning about their strategies
Gina St Clair
01:41:26
Ask parents if they have strategies that help them remember certain facts.
Jamie Phan
01:41:29
Create mini tutorials; juxtapose work from students who use strategies and how they apply their understanding to more rigorous work compared to students who use memorization
lindsaysturm
01:41:29
Modeling how I myself use strategies, I don’t have every fact memorized, but I can quickly manipulate the numbers
Belinda
01:41:30
The value of being able to solve problems in different ways in math, but also as a life long skill in other areas.
ekorenek
01:41:32
Because children learn differently, it’s important to know the different strategies. Two kids in the same house may have different strategies that they go to, and parents want to be able to support each of them as individuals.
kfaulkner
01:41:49
Share the strategies with families
Jamie Phan
01:41:55
We are recording lessons for laptops for distance learning and parents have loved it!
Susanne
01:42:29
Fun Math Nights for the community.
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:42:29
So kids learn the strategies and have them in their "toolbox" as they continue through their education and the problems become more challenging
Jennifer Bay-Williams
01:44:42
Yes, Val!
Jamie Phan
01:45:02
I think having them ask their child which they prefer and have them explain why…that is more powerful than me telling them
Frances Caole
01:45:14
I need to take into consideration how each child learns best-
Heidi Wright
01:45:14
Show their children using strategies and being successful in learning facts
Angel Atkins
01:45:16
YES Jamie
Dan May
01:45:43
Simple problems turn into Algebraic concepts when changed out: 3 + __ = 12
Aleta
01:45:48
In reading, students get more fluent by becoming engaged in what they are reading (instructional level with challenge) and WANT to know what this awesome story is about.
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:46:12
I give my high schoolers crosswords and other non-number puzzles to get them familiar with the vocabulary (science teacher here), so that when I start throwing numbers at them they’re fluent in the words already. It’s working so far!
Heidi Wright
01:46:20
Remind parents that the more a person likes doing something the more often they will engage in it
Aleta
01:46:21
Awesome—that’s what I was wondering!
Frances Caole
01:47:18
Awesome strategy, EJ!
ekorenek
01:48:27
Yes, PLEASE!
Angel Atkins
01:48:33
That would be great.
courtney scoby
01:48:40
That would be awesome!
Susanne
01:48:44
Hi, How may I review this webinar at a later time?
ekorenek
01:49:46
On the participants page
Angel Atkins
01:50:27
yes
ekorenek
01:50:30
oh, yes
Frances Caole
01:50:34
yup
Dan May
01:51:38
Make 24, mixes up the basic skills to make “24”
Dan May
01:51:41
https://www.coolmathgames.com/0-make-24
dianakurka
01:53:44
Susanne, within 24 hours the webinar recording will be posted on the Resource page. You will also find all of the handouts there.
dianakurka
01:55:13
https://asdn.org/webinar-resource-page-math-fact-fluency-and-families-fall-2020/
Dan May
01:56:14
Yes
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:56:21
myth
ekorenek
01:56:21
Truth
Angel Atkins
01:56:21
Truth
Melissa
01:56:22
myth
Stephanie Brewer
01:56:23
myth
Pamella Simpson
01:56:23
false
Heidi Wright
01:56:23
Truth
Jamie Phan
01:56:24
Myth
JENNIFER SCHMIDT-HUTCHINS
01:56:24
myth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:56:24
myth
kfaulkner
01:56:26
myth
Gina St Clair
01:56:26
Truth
lindsaysturm
01:56:28
truth
Belinda
01:56:30
myth
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:56:30
myth
Susanne
01:56:32
myth
Jamie Phan
01:56:44
truth
ekorenek
01:56:44
truth
Belinda
01:56:45
myth
Angel Atkins
01:56:45
Truth
Dan May
01:56:45
false
Heidi Wright
01:56:46
Truth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:56:46
truth
Stephanie Brewer
01:56:46
truth
kfaulkner
01:56:47
truth
Pamella Simpson
01:56:49
truth
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:56:49
truth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:56:50
truth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:56:51
true
Susanne
01:56:51
truth
Pamella Simpson
01:56:57
myth
Jamie Phan
01:56:57
Myth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:56:57
false
Heidi Wright
01:56:58
myth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:56:58
myth
Angel Atkins
01:56:58
Myth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:56:59
myth
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:56:59
myth
Dan May
01:56:59
false
kfaulkner
01:56:59
false
Stephanie Brewer
01:57:00
myth
Susanne
01:57:00
myth
ekorenek
01:57:00
myth
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:57:01
myth
Melissa
01:57:02
myth
Gina St Clair
01:57:03
myth
pam wellspeters
01:57:04
myth
Dan May
01:57:15
true
Jamie Phan
01:57:16
truth
pam wellspeters
01:57:16
truth
Gina St Clair
01:57:17
yes
ekorenek
01:57:18
truth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:57:18
true
Stephanie Brewer
01:57:18
truth
Pamella Simpson
01:57:18
truth
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:57:18
truth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:57:20
truth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:57:20
myth
Susanne
01:57:22
truth
Angel Atkins
01:57:24
myth
helen lee
01:57:26
yes
Pamella Simpson
01:57:26
myth
kfaulkner
01:57:26
truth
ekorenek
01:57:27
truth
Gina St Clair
01:57:27
yes
Jamie Phan
01:57:27
Myth
Heidi Wright
01:57:28
True
Dan May
01:57:28
hmmmm
Melissa
01:57:29
myth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:57:29
myth
Karry Betson
01:57:30
truth
Belinda
01:57:30
truth
Susanne
01:57:31
truth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:57:31
true
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:57:31
truth
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:57:31
myth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:57:50
myth
ekorenek
01:57:50
myth
Pamella Simpson
01:57:51
myth
Jamie Phan
01:57:52
MYTH
pam wellspeters
01:57:52
myth
Stephanie Brewer
01:57:53
Myth!!
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:57:53
myth
Frances Caole
01:57:53
false
Gina St Clair
01:57:53
myth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:57:53
no
kfaulkner
01:57:54
myth
helen lee
01:57:55
FALSE
Angel Atkins
01:57:55
myth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:57:55
myth
ekorenek
01:57:56
myth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:57:56
myth
Angel Atkins
01:57:56
myth
Jamie Phan
01:57:57
MYTH
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:57:57
no
Susanne
01:57:57
myth
Stephanie Brewer
01:57:58
Myth!!!
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:57:58
myth
kfaulkner
01:57:58
myth
Gina St Clair
01:57:58
myth
pam wellspeters
01:57:59
myth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:57:59
myth
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:58:00
myth
Susanne
01:58:00
myth
Karry Betson
01:58:02
myth
ekorenek
01:58:06
truth
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:58:07
truth
Frances Caole
01:58:07
fact
Karry Betson
01:58:07
truth
Belinda
01:58:07
truth
Jamie Phan
01:58:08
Truth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:58:08
yes
Jake Groll-Tununak
01:58:09
truth
Susanne
01:58:09
truth
Stephanie Brewer
01:58:09
truth
kfaulkner
01:58:09
fact
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:58:09
truth
Pamella Simpson
01:58:09
truth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:58:10
truth
pam wellspeters
01:58:10
truth
Angel Atkins
01:58:12
truth
Gina St Clair
01:58:12
truth
Jamie Phan
01:58:21
truth
ekorenek
01:58:21
myth
Gina St Clair
01:58:24
truth
Pamella Simpson
01:58:24
mth
Bonnie (Alaska)
01:58:24
yes
Stephanie Brewer
01:58:25
myth
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
01:58:26
truth
pam wellspeters
01:58:26
truth
Pamella Simpson
01:58:27
myth
Frances Caole
01:58:28
fact
Maria Gutleben
01:58:28
myth
Belinda
01:58:30
truth
Susanne
01:58:30
truth
Angel Atkins
01:58:31
truth
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
01:58:35
myth
Jamie Phan
01:58:52
You can’t have fun doing math
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:59:04
Changing the way we teach math changes the math itself
Heidi Wright
01:59:07
How you learn math is genetic
ekorenek
01:59:10
There is only one way to do math!
Susanne
01:59:15
think about their belief about math
pam wellspeters
01:59:16
you don’t need worksheets
helen lee
01:59:16
Boys are better at math
Jamie Phan
01:59:18
Knowing math is doing 30 problems a night
EJ Dorsey KWN
01:59:57
Kids with special learning needs can’t do math
EJ Dorsey KWN
02:00:16
(I feel gross even writing that. It’s false, I know you know but I have to say. Ugh)
Jamie Phan
02:00:17
There is only one way to solve a problem
dianakurka
02:00:21
This will be one of the Options for the assignment this week!
dianakurka
02:01:35
You would be able to explore and share your findings with others in the credit class.
Aleta
02:02:12
Dianakurka: please explain this a little more.
ekorenek
02:02:38
The site, you mean?
dianakurka
02:03:01
I’ll be speaking about all of this shortly.
pam wellspeters
02:03:04
Play math games with them.
kfaulkner
02:03:12
Share strategies with them
Heidi Wright
02:03:16
Play a games and discuss the stategy or practice involve
courtney scoby
02:03:17
Math games help support learning more then just memorization
JENNIFER SCHMIDT-HUTCHINS
02:03:18
create and send math flyer home with specific focus
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
02:03:19
Teach them math games and tell them not to stress
Gina St Clair
02:03:20
Send home math games for homework.
MirabelleNausialuataqblossom
02:03:24
Math game on back to school night
lindsaysturm
02:03:24
Replace a traditional lesson with a fun activity that has the same aim
Frances Caole
02:03:25
ask their child what it is they like or dislike about math
Karry Betson
02:03:27
Get their kids excited about it
helen lee
02:03:27
games=fun
Belinda
02:03:33
play games and be positive about math
Bonnie (Alaska)
02:03:33
More games
Pamella Simpson
02:03:34
I like the flyer idea!
EJ Dorsey KWN
02:03:38
Intergenerational collaboration by design
Aleta
02:03:39
Gaming: online and offline
Dan May
02:03:43
Good one Gina
Angel Atkins
02:03:44
Sharing the strategies you are teaching the children share with the families also so they know how their child is learning
Melissa
02:03:47
Pick one strategy, communicate why its important, and share one game to teach and reinforce that strategy
ekorenek
02:03:54
Please do share that flyer as a Word.doc, if you would?
Maria Gutleben
02:04:14
Playing games with students will help them in the long run.
ekorenek
02:04:21
ThankyoU!
dianakurka
02:04:24
Developing a flyer is another Option for assignment this week!
ekorenek
02:04:29
=)
Susanne
02:04:38
Have a Fun Family Night that the Parents will learn strategies to assist their child.
Mary Tester
02:04:44
Thank you Jennifer!
Karry Betson
02:04:52
Thank you!
pam wellspeters
02:04:56
Thank you!!
Dan May
02:04:57
Thank you
Susanne
02:04:59
Thank You!
Heidi Wright
02:05:00
Very interesting and see you in two
Belinda
02:05:00
Thank you!
Brianna (Blatchford) Wheeler
02:05:03
That has been very helpful
Val McLeod - 3rd grade
02:05:05
Thank you!
Melissa Crane
02:05:07
Survey 1 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2TLVX7S
Pamella Simpson
02:05:08
Thanks so very much!
Bonnie (Alaska)
02:05:11
THANK YOU
Melissa
02:05:17
Thank you!
Angela Bennett
02:05:20
info o this course for credit?
Gina St Clair
02:05:25
Awesome! Thank you! I am really focusing on facts this year in 4th grade.
JENNIFER SCHMIDT-HUTCHINS
02:05:27
Thank you Jennifer!
Jennifer Bay-Williams
02:06:19
Thank you, all!
Susanne
02:06:41
Hi, How much is the class..
Heidi Wright
02:07:46
Where do we sign up
Angel Atkins
02:07:59
Where do we sign up for the 1 credit course
Melissa Crane
02:08:03
• Course Registration https://www.cvent.com/d/g7qqnl– Registration closes: 10/16/20• Resource Page https://asdn.org/webinar-resource-page-math-fact-fluency-and-families-fall-2020/• Survey 1 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2TLVX7S
Angel Atkins
02:11:20
I found it, thank you so much Melissa
Maria Gutleben
02:11:47
I see the description but I don’t see where we actually sign up
Pamella Simpson
02:11:48
The registration link is not working to allow sign up.
Jennifer Bay-Williams
02:12:10
My email if you need it: j.baywilliams@louisville.edu
Angel Atkins
02:13:19
It says registration starts after the first webinar.
lindsaysturm
02:13:24
where do we find the assignment list
Angel Atkins
02:13:58
Thank you.
lindsaysturm
02:14:02
If we have registered under the grant are we already registered for credit