Wonderful to hear!

Thank you for joining us Deldi! Looking forward to working with you.

good afternoon! Welcome Deldi!

You're doing great Skott!

you'll be great, Skott! As always

Happy to meet you all today. deldi.reyes@arb.ca.gov / cell: 279 203 7477

Thanks for that Deldi. :-)

I'd like to echo that

Great point, Matt. Stockton is always at the bottom of the list, it seems.

For those who are coming in later in the agenda, we are just doing public comments

DTSC?

Department of Toxic Substance and Control maybe?

Yes, DTSC is Dept of Toxic Substances Control

I meant if they would be the agency that would provide more insight

So it is the Air District? I know CPUC has regulated fugitive dust in many instances. The Port is a Public Owned Utility.

Jeff has his hand up

Depending on who owns the operation would determine who would be required to potentially obtain an operating permit from the District

You got it, Skott!

In regards to dust, the company handling cargo has a requirement to utilize mist systems or other practice to reduce dust.

@Ryan would you be able to explain what steps are needed to start an evaluation to see if a permit is warranted?

We have staff that oversees and enforces those requirements.

Thanks Jeff

@Christal, typically, new businesses or businesses modifying operations that will either generate air pollutants or control air pollutants submit permit applications to the Air District, the District reviews the applications and makes a determination on whether a permit is needed.

Can I address Catherine’s concern?

Do I understand Angela correctly that CA allows dirtier vessels than those allowed at other Pacific Ports?

@Ryan~Thanks for the info!

No Matt, that’s not correct

Ok I heard that we get Tier 2 & 3 and Tier 1 are more modern

We all get the same vessels pretty much

We being CA or "Pacific Ports"

So Jeff to clarify are you suggesting the bonnet is good for all ships, or for the non dry bulk vessels? What I heard during the presentation was that because they need to load and move that bonnets don’t work well?

Well let me back track a little. Some of the newer vessels that come to the container ports might burn a little better but they all use the same fuels.

Matt, Tier 3 are the cleanest ships. There are not many Tier 3 vessels visiting the United States yet. We get a lot of Tier 1 and 2 ships. Would be happy to discuss more, if needed.

My understanding is that the bonnets work for all vessel types

Cool I got it backwards. But the concept that nice ships go to Europe and old ships come to us because we have a more lax regulatory environment still seems to hold up.

We’ve been pushing IMO to regulate all ships to even the playing field but they have not yet done so.

no doubt

Would it be correct to say that ports that accommodate cruise ships would generate less pollution then, since those ships have the newer technology to plug in?

landing page for statewide strategies.

Catherine, it is difficult to move the bonnet while the vessel is line hauled and we have not yet worked out that challenge. That is true…a lot of this is very new to us and we are still trying to figure it out!

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/ab-617-statewide-strategy-summary

On the topic of demonstration projects for CHC or CHE, I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of everything that has been done, but I do know of some projects for CHE that have been done at the Port of Oakland, specifically for hybrid equipment. On the CHC side, I don't know of any recent projects but I know that one project we would love to see happen is to get a project funded (possibly through CERPs) to test out Level 3 diesel particulate filters (DPF). I would be happy to talk more about this with anyone interested to hear more also.

Matt, I also wanted to mention that we have found that a lot of older ships come to California not because of a lax regulatory environment, but because of global trade patterns. Newer vessels tend to be cleaner and larger, and larger ships trade on the Asia-Europe routes. California typically receives cargo coming from Asia, with lower volumes than what is traded from Asia to Europe's largest ports.

Keep in mind these are CERPs that were drafted without basic cost benefit analyses...and both communities have deep concerns about them that they address by requiring long term community oversight, cerp implementation flexibility and carb timetable felxibility

If anyone has more questions or interest in discussing demonstration projects, my email is Melissa.houchin@arb.ca.gov

Thanks Nicole

Will there be time for CARB to share what BNSF just got awarded for? Ed just shared it with me through email

Warren Buffet's got his pockets pulled out again.

Jeff, can you forecast ship traffic to the POS and estimate how many emissions 1 bonnet could address? Not sure I have seen that data, if it has been shared.

Matt - In regards to your last question, we are able to track the number of times vessels visit our ports here in California. The difference is that bulk and tanker ships usually operate as "tramp ships", meaning that they tend to visit ports in California maybe once or twice a year (or maybe once or twice ever). Separately, container, auto, and cruise ships are on "liner schedule". This means they come back to the same ports over and over again. I believe there are a handful of bulk vessels that come back on a routine basis to a few ports in California, but the vast majority will only come 1-2 times.

Thanks Nicole. "Tramp Ships" wins for the night.

Here is the BNSF resource from Ed

What a timeline lol

Impressive timeline

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2019/09/12/bnsf-wabtec-battery-locomotive.html

This was back in 2019

https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2021/01/05/wabtec-bnsf-pilot-battery-electric-locomotive.html

Pittsburgh-based Wabtec partnered with BNSF Railway Co. to pilot battery-electric locomotive technology on a route between Barstow and Stockton, California, this week.Tim Bader, senior business communications leader at Wabtec, said the locomotive technology was designed and manufactured at Wabtec’s Erie, Pennsylvania, facility.Bader said the pilot, set to run from January through the end of March, marks part of Wabtec’s sustainability efforts. The program is part of a $22.6 million grant that BNSF received from the Zero and Near Zero- Emission Freight Facilities project by the California Air Resource Board.

This is 2021

https://www.bnsf.com/news-media/railtalk/service/battery-electric-locomotive.html

Catherine - I'm a little behind on this, but I also wanted to make sure we answered your question on the At Berth remediation fund. The remediation fund is something that vessel or terminal operators can pay if they have invested in reducing emissions but are unable to reduce emissions at berth (for example, if the equipment breaks). The remediation fund will be administered by a third party, like an Air District, that will then work with the ports and public to decide how best to use that money to get the emissions reductions needed. Please feel free to reach out to me at nicole.lightdensberger@arb.ca.gov if you want to discuss further, we are happy to talk more on this subject

CARB is funding a pilot electric locomotive which is testing the route from Stockton to Barstow. Pretty cool! https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/01/20210105-bnsf.html

Thanks Nicole.

@Jonathan it take awhile to build the locomotive and there are quite a few companies involved

@Espe it would be great for this info be shared lol

https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/lct/pdfs/flexiblesolutions.pdf

I'd like to see the locomotive

I'll take CARBs spot lol

I am aware of BNSF Pilot Locomotive Project and wish to be included in any visit! Nate Knodt

electric locomotive is impressive.

tha h it

Ill let you go first Jonathan, but I want to be in-line... LOL

thank you for informative presentations tonight

These locomotives are a step beyond "Gen-Set" Locomotives that were used in Southern California switching yards by both BNSF and UP that ultimately were not considered successful. These newer locomotives are more pure battery and regenerative braking and more geared to mainline "road freight" service.

If there are still a lot of pilots and not enough full scaled locomotive projects, it's not worth to put AB 617 funds into it

I should add that the Gen-Set locomotives used "sets of engines and battery packs and pioneered about 10 years ago, but not continued in service.

Matt what smaller rail utilities are you speaking of?

Seems like a long time to wait

switcher engines

Great tip

@nate yep you got it !!! and BNSF and all companies have to put in their part of the monies it’s a matching grant not fully funded so they have to pay. The locomotive is in stockton and goes to Barstow

And the federal gov't relation ship with them has deemed rail communities as disposable

If there are residents that need more clarification on things, please let me know. You can send me a message if you'd like to stay anonymous

Tough call Thanks.

Need a New CA AG yesterday.

beside BNSF and Union Pacific who owns switcher engines that can be targeted?

Central California

How many classes are there for locomotives?

Is there a link to find this?

Happy to learn more Ed :-)

Central California Traction Co. is the official railroad of the Port of Stockton owned and working in coordination with BNSF and UP. Its mainline operates between Stockton and Lodi with an "embargoed mainline" that is still in place between Lodi - Sheldon - and Sacramento, but has not been operated since about 1998.

how is the rail car replacement enforced if no authority to comply?

Thanks Nate

Great questions and comments!

Nate is a Railroad historian:) See ya soon Nate!

Nate is a transportation expert!

All Aboard!

Railyard Session coming up March 4th? You can provide a link to the meeting notice on CARB’s website: CARB Railyard Emissions “Virtual” Listening Session | California Air Resources BoardThere is a survey link in the calendar description that we would like those attending to take so that they can help design the meeting as well.Hi Everyone!

@Christina for sure!

Identify theft is not a joke Jim- the Office

Thank you Jen for your presentation

oops my Railyard Listening session chat went over too quickly! Here's the info with an actual web address this time: Railyard Session coming up March 4th. Link to the meeting notice on CARB’s website: https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/events/carb-railyard-emissions-virtual-listening-sessionThere is a survey link in the calendar description that we would like those attending to take so that you can help design the meeting as well.

thank you.

I wish these incentives were in a graph or some design

Thanks Matt. for helping us stay focused on that. point.

I'll let Skott talk of course but I just wanted to say, GREAT QUESTION Matt

Thanks Regina/Skott

https://fundingwizard.arb.ca.gov/web/

Thank you Cristina. Great Description.

California Climate Investments Webinar Page:http://www.caclimateinvestments.ca.gov/webinarsYou can also access the presentation slides directly:->For Land Conservancies: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55a6b117e4b002796fd89798/t/5fb2d093e1274067eb45a655/1605554339495/LC+Webinar+Slides_Final_for+ADA+v2.pdf->For NonProfits: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55a6b117e4b002796fd89798/t/5fbc4af645ca4f7902504a8c/1606175496334/NP+Webinar+Slides_Final.pdf->For Local Governments: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55a6b117e4b002796fd89798/t/5fdba8e7462ff57564b2ddab/1608231147118/LG+Webinar+Slides_final.pdfSign up to be kept up to date on our upcoming webinars:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScW8MX0nN6nxxNET1c1j5P9PFPX2QLl3P97bmXE2l2vZmfIjw/viewformLastly, please feel free to reach out to us!info@caclimateinvestments.ca.gov

thank you Cristina ! your website is very helpful

Kyle - can their CAP funds supplement the Clean Mobility in Schools grant?

@Doug here are the CCI programs for individuals http://www.caclimateinvestments.ca.gov/funding-for-individuals

Heather: That's definitely a possibility -- if the steering committee and the air district draft up a community-identified project to combine efforts and funds from CAP funds alongside Clean Mobility in Schools money, that could work. It'd take some deliberate coordination from your folks and our folks, the air district, and the community, but we could make it work!

As with everything around community-identified projects, the key is showing strong support from the community -- which is to say community members at-large but also the actual members of the steering committee.

Community members please follow EJCW on Facebook as we usually post and relay information on all of these programs.

https://www.facebook.com/ejcwater/

Thank you CARB staff for all attending to answer potential questions!

Thank you Aria I'm happy to answer any questions about the District's grant programs including our Drive Clean in the San Joaquin replacement program. Please feel to reach me at brian.dodds@valleyair.org

Does anyone from SUSD attend our meetings?

Maria Mendez and Silvia Cantu are on the steering committee

I haven't seen Maria in awhile. I understand she's busy. But I'd like for her to be aware of this

Maria Mendez is the Board of Trustee for parts of the Stockton AB 617 boundary zone

Thanks Jonathan

I'd like for the newly elected Board of Trustees to be part of this conversation

Maria Mendez is also a member of the Boggs Tract Community Advisory Board

https://www.grants.ca.gov/

https://www.grants.ca.gov/site-statistics-dashboard/

Thanks Shivani!

Are we able to get some notes to give a brief overview on this meeting?

Thank you Trish!

Thanks everyone. Thanks Skott. Great Start.

Great job tonight Skott

Thank you everyone for attending. If you have any light-duty incentive related questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. My email address is aria.berliner@arb.ca.gov

Thank you CARB team for all the information.

Herculean effort getting all this organized, Skott!

Skott, your hard work doesn't go unnoticed. I appreciate all CARB and VAD staff here to answer questions

Thank you Trish and everyone else. If you are interested in learning more about the grants.ca.gov. Please feel free to contact us at CAGrantsPortal@library.ca.gov

Lots of good information thank you

Clean Mobility in Schools project at SUSD is amazing. Here is my email heather.choi@arb.ca.gov.

Skott muchísimas gracias to you , your team and the air district staff !!

Thank you Community members!!

thanks for reaching out

sounds great - I’ll email you

yes thank you Joanthan

I'll try to get some notes to help out lol

You can always subscribe to daily/weekly subscription for the Grants Portal to see all the newest grant opportunities posted by the state agencies. https://www.grants.ca.gov/subscribe-to-updates/

Matt are you familiar with Tree Plotter? We are considering signing up and possibly sharing with the AB 617 group if it would be used to track our tree planting.

So glad I was able to listen in to this great discussion--thanks all.

Yeha I looked at htat

there's a few

Thank you Deldi for joining!

I settles on Forest Metrix In Richmond Jeff

But they all do the same thing. GPs tree tracking.

Great Job Skott!

goos stuff

good*

Ok I’ll look into that one as well!

See you all on Wednesday!

Thanks all