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100 car pileup this morning

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Yes Dale, please print what you need

drivers were actually driving SLOWLY this morning. It's a miracle!

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So great to see all of your names - glad you are here everyone!

Good morning, thank you for providing this for us!

Right now, I’m preaching to a “safely distanced” live congregation, and to a live stream audience, and to a FM radio audience . . . eager for all the advice I can get.

Book is always better!

All the timne

Sure

🙌🏼

Yes

yes!

99 percent of the time

Yes!

lol almost everytime

Book is always better

Oh, yes!

Every time

Book is always better!!!

oh yes!

yes. Color Purple

Good Morning all. Nelda Murraine

Yes!

Book is better

Hunt for Red October . . . book much better

yes

Boook is always better

Duh!

Absolutely

almost always

yes

yes

OH YES!

Ready player two is out

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Stay safe Beverly!

Praying for power, electrical and spiritual, for Hewitt!

Yes, prayers for all.

Thank-you!

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One hour-1.25 hours

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1 hourish

one hour

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60 mins

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Amen! We should always be doing worship to reach new people!

I do a shorter 20 minute Wednesday service online only

GOOD MORNING

nope

in person for disciple making, worship, and building relationships, online for evangelism and reaching new people and maintaining connections

No

No

i very rarely sing at all

No.

yup

No

No

No

Not all

no

no

no

NO

nope, 1st & last

No

Nope, not at all

2VS

usually 2

Not outloud

no

nope

My senior adults at home tell me that they sing every verse!

i “sing” with the react button

No

first verse

3 or 4

Gut punch. They're not singing.

We sing in-person, just shorter

no; but we’re not yet singing in the Sanctuary

Oops! Misunderstood the question.

One of my congregants sent me an audio text so I could hear her singing outloud.

we don’t sing all verses

That’s sweet Marilyn! :)

We have lyrics as an overlay bottom 3rd

lower thirds online, full screen in person

Same here Jeff

We use two computers networked together. ProPresenter output goes to screen and as an overlay to the PC running OBS

ProPresenter...output...overlay....running OBS....If you don't know what this means....It must be time to re-retire!!!..lol Glad you are all here. Your lea]

says a lot about your leadership THANK YOU!!

Nope

We are. We use Vanco.

text to give

Pushpay

We use Tithely.

Shelby online

vanco

Tithely

VNCO

clover

Elexio

Vanco

Vanco

vanco

Shelby

Yes - Vanco

Yes, Realm

give plus

giveplus

Dogecoin

paypal

Yes - Vanco, Text giving

Cashapp and Faithlife

Vanco

Gively

Shelby online, text to give

We use our chms Breeze giving

Yes. PayPal

dogecoin? alan?

vanco give+ app

Nelda nurraine - Vanco

Clover Give

An older adult suggested Zelle but we haven't gone there yet.

fax a picture of cash

Many older members still bringing hardcopy checks to our new dropbox outside of the office.

Venmo

Yes. Can't remember the name of our service

amen

good stuff!

Truth - my adult kids don't carry cash or checks.

increase in giving

I don't carry a checkbook, Mark! LOL

I'm 58 and I don't carry cash or checks!!

Guess I just dated myself....

What's a checkbook?

Amen!

Jannette - I don’t carry cash or checkbook either. Guess that makes me young!? LOL

LOL

LOL, Kim!🤗

We have been doing "Guest Giver" videos of worshipers saying a word about giving since March. Not fancy AT ALL, but usually a lot of fun!

that’s a really cool ministry

so inspiring!

Is the length of the video an issue?

Amen, Jason. The why is so important!

Sure you can…

We all have huge TV studios in our phones

Agree on the 2-2.5 min video length

I think we suffered from creativity fatigue…

Also, we have thrown a LOT of change at our people, maybe times of slowing that down can help keep some of them along

Online and live we should be careful repeating.

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Yes!

Yep!

raising hand

ME!!

Yep!

yes!!!

It is the way

Double yes

It is the way

A fan

Who? :)

my kids are Mandalorian fans

"We have always done it that way" killer words in the church - and in ways of doing worship

Not that old!

Never saw the the Razor Crest being blown to shreds coming.

Cheers!!!

This is the way.

(spoiler alert)

Spoiler alert!

great point Jason

So true!!!! creating new experiences

Also needs to be sustainable, particularly in light of the layers of stress pastors and staff are feeling themselves

You can also bring in this guy I know who plays dress-up in church.

Early on, I preached from many locations, like my home, other places in our church building, our prayer garden, and even on a lake shore. Folks asked me to preach from boat at the lake

LOL

That's prime seating in the UMC

lol

lol

lol

Ha!

LOL

I think I know that guy

brilliant

wow, so close!

My wife grooms me Saturday night because of hi-def cameras. :)

Surveillance camera church LOL

lol!!

Been there..

Amen!!!

Low-budget options for the offering - We do a video like this every week - try to show the congregation how we are currently active in mission/discipleship, or do a throwback/feel good video or slideshow - trying to help folks at home feel connected to the people and the mission: https://vimeo.com/479359949

Cat Filter? Worship. It went viral.

yes

YES!!!!!!

YES!!!

nearly double

yes

yes

truth

yep

yes

yes

By a wide margin.

yes

yep

Triple!

I have.

Nelda Murraine YES!

Whole new group of people

yes

My video team told me to wear makeup to cut the forehead shine.

Yes

yes

We have become a national church.

once we restarted in-person worship, our online attendance plummeted

Yes Art!!!!

Our attendance is pretty equal right now between outdoor worship, in-person worship, and online.

I open our streaming service on all my devices to jack our numbers

TOOOOO Cute!!!!

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Compelling at first but got annoying quickly...not Jimmie's prob

Ah, yes…video with small children. I feel that pain…

Praying for Travis?

The other piece of that is that it’s Jimmy Fallon. People are going to watch no matter what.

People love to see the REAL US!!!!

He has a third iteration now that he’s back in studio without an audience

\Sorry. My cat walked across the keyboard and laid down on the enter button.

lol I was just too quick

LOL Travis

Acknowledging things aren't the same, but same story

low energy

A little lower energy

Less slick than first one

Distancing

no more crowds

Intro music is more chill

Laid back, casual opening. Somewhere between the previous two

more casual

More down home feeling - still authentic

Low energy!!!

Caaual

more relational

uses band for interaction

fewer crew

Casual more mics were open

Still love 2nd one.....

Showing social distancing

shows where we are really at today

Reflecting the feelings of the viewers

More relaxed than Colbert.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel but it is a different color

So, you are not suggesting that we "Make Worship Great Again"?

Amen

Yes!!!

100% right

Amen!! we will never be the same again. And that exciting to me

online worship is here to stay

People will attend for months online before they ever will darken our doors with their presence.

I really appreciate this webinar!

Oh, they judge harshly in person too. :)

We place Video Cues now in Planning Center and print a run sheet each week for media team and “celebrants"

The Holy Spirit is not an excuse for poor planning.

No no no…

painful

Kenny G?

lol

I know this clip. Horrible

ouch

OH GOD

I’m out...

Oh gosh, nope. I’m out.

Oh nooo

😢

Ugh...

Good Lord

Ooooooooooooooooooo

Probably not

maybe…but just cause its a trainwreck

Yikes!

Make it stop

Whoa!

ouch

Well, it's real!

ouch

I love when keyboard guy looks over, ????

Don't laugh....don't laugh.....

Even the piano player is cringing

Yikes!

I want to turn it off now!

Fired

Sorry!

Make it stopppppp

Fix it Jesus

I'd totally do this to go viral.

Now I can die . . .

I’m tempted to leave now…LOL

My ears

Where is the sound team when you need them?

Seriously, make it stop

kind of like my singing

Maybe just mute?

what happened?

IF that was my boy playing, yes

PLEASE stop

What a great example!

Frightening

Bless his heart….

Give Thanks…. it stopped

My cat is cringing.

Percy Grainger wrote that specially for worship.

I WOULD hand around, because if it gets worse than that, even better.

He made me laugh!

Haha, Jon!

click away!!

“Good enough for Church” ain’t good enough anymore.

shorten those hymns, don't sing all six verses

Same thing with modern worship songs… 6 minute songs become 3 max

To highlight Jason’s point - step away and come back if you need to, we’ll send out the recording. We will have a live Q&A at the end of this webinar (around 12:15) if you want to take part. We’ll also have a Zoom follow up with Jason in about a month - will send you all the date of that when we schedule it.

Thank you Estee

Thanks Estee.

amen

the goal is to make disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world.

Point people to your website or social media with the announcements of the day

Announcements don’t work in person either

High-Coo

HIGH Co

Co

We do a 5 minute clock before the service starts with any upcoming missions that people can connect in meaningful ways.

:)

I never read the thing after I say "I can just read this."

LOL

LOL

That’s funny

🤣

preach!!

Methodeze

And all too real

We do "Next Steps" at the end.

We run rotating slides pre-worship onlilne

The UMW and the SPR will gladly welcome our new pastor and pound their family this week.

Clint, LOL!!!

almost too true to be funny

Action steps would work well both online and live.

yes

I like the “next steps” at the end of worship - ways to live into what worship just emphasized. But I’m going to name it: Are they still watching online? I am sure we have more people at the beginning of the service than the end.

You're telling a story -

dang even i want to go to ump now

Yes Clint!

umw*

Our guests were tuning out until we moved the sermon closer to the beginning.

good point mary

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There is a theological and spiritual beauty to being live, together and praying at the same time.

Rural… if you have 4gLTE… tether to your phone

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

Yes - about 10 mins shorter

yes

yes

yes

Yes

yes

Not shorter

about the same

yes

Since we are live during in person, both are shorter

no

When getting internet packages for the church they always advertise the great download speeds. One will want to inquire as to the upload speeds with the Internet Service Provider as it isn’t always readily available.

Yes

Both shorter.

Our online only service on Wednesday is shorter

until we went back to in-person. We haven't doubled the work to produce 2 different things

Yes, look for good upload speeds

“Radio Edit” the hymns and songs.

TRUTH

YES!

yes

Praise God for shorter sermons!

can we play it at 1.2X?

LOL Steve

Yes

yes

yes

Yes

yes

Yes

yep

We've seen from our work meetings and our students learning online that folks just can't stay connected to a screen as long as they can in person. Gotta keep it tight

Yes

yep

yes

yes

yep

yes

Yes

yes

Of course!

oh yea

yes

of course

yes!

yes

yes

Ye[

Welcome to my Ted Talk

yes

yes

yes

They are great!!

Hello!

yes

Yes

yes

Yes!

Yes

In person needs to be shorter anyway according to the COVID practices.

Do we still offer Invitation to Christian Discipleship? I do!

I do too, Nelda.

In addition to watching TED Talks, this behind-the-scenes video is pretty compelling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0hhETbDBaY

We do too

We take prayer requests by text to a google number, real time but more private

I love these ideas! But I can’t imagine asking my tired staff and volunteers to come in on another day to pre-record. All of my staff and volunteers have full-time jobs elsewhere Something I will have to spend time thinking about.

Our folks are doing a great job of engaging with one another and praying for those concerns in real time.

First United Methodist Church Cleburne is an awesome church to study how prayer can invigorate a congregation. Wonderful ministry.

Thanks for naming that Kim....all of this takes additional time and effort, particularly for churches that don't have tech folks

Church online platform also has some options for private realtime prayer

yes

Yes

For sure!

On-demand is higher

Still growing… both

yes

Yes

yes

yes

yes

Yes

Yes

Yes, growing.

Yes

Yes!

I do

Some pastors are.

Me. It's one good thing of COVID. I'm able to experience several worship experiences during the week.

My cat zoom joke this week will be funny forever!

very good point

second only to Google

some of my folks are connected to several churches where they lived in the past are binge watching worship every Sunday morning

True Kory

Would love to explore what liturgical seasons have to do with evergreen

yes Kory

(funny, not funny) - members jumping on last week's service, commenting, and staying the whole service.

We have way more people that attend Family Style on Saturday night AND Sunday morning traditional worship online. It’s been very cool to witness and create connectional community.

Something I have thought about is thinking that a sermon may touch a heart six years from now when I am at a different church but providing a consistent contact method should they wish to receive Christ or request prayer.

Leaving a generic email from a church like info@coutsumc.org

Already do this!

We spend 5 minutes pre-service saying hi to each other, online and in-person to connect them together

We have lots of participation in the chat. But I also invite them to welcome one another each week. And I everyone who posts by name. (I'm exclusively online, not in the worship service other than a brief video.)

OBS rocks!

OBS can also be remote controlled from phone or iPad for those with less help

Definitely have an online worship host--great hospitality!

Yes!

Schooled just called to cancel, see you all later. Thank you Jason and Estee and team! Wonderful conversation.

I did "shout-outs" to people watching when I was doing Facebook Live from home. I haven't done that since being in the church building.

Great idea!

I’m here!

:)

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Hi, Travis' cat

Meow

Yes, to the reflection question as a means to engage and learn in community!

Sorry. Minnie, my cat, is most insistant when she wants attention. She is really enjoying this webin ar.

Yes! Thumbs up for live, real time for both / and.

Problem for us… knowing which camera is live.

This is what we’ve been doing at Keller. I call it “toggling our attention” when we try to talk to the room and the camera. It is challenging but we’re starting to get used to it.

You are doing great Jason and we are thankful

My oldest son’s name is Jason Moore… both are great

This is so practical. Thank you!

I prefer sports on TV

Are you saying we should offer $1 hotdog Sundays?

Jon…yessss!

Go Joe Burrow!

I hear Jason advocating for drone footage in worship.

Yes, Mary!!!

time

Took off like a drone.

We flew a drone very briefly once and it was fun! lol

An empty boxcar ran through your mind

Yep

Sadly yes

Now

No blended worship!

Blended never worked for us.

We are blending carefully and it’s working well

What if you did in person announcements and prayer concerns after online worship ended?

Can you repeat how you transitioned to online audience?

Thank you Jason!

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Hi, Minnie!

LOL

Minnie thinks the keyboard is a tummy warmer! Sorry!

She is great!

I second that!

She is great! I raised my hands! LOL

Thanks

Me too Jannette

Like a golf announcer...

I remember Christmas Eve Holy Communion in a large church taking close to 30 minutes in person.It seemed awkwardly long in person. I can’t imagine watching it online.

Sometimes I have asked an at home person to participate and film their participation. It is powerful as an example.

Yes

Yes!

Good idea Clint. I have member record offertory prayers from home

Great information - a good use of my time. I’ve been wrestling with involving the on-line persons, and you’ve given us a vision for connecting on another. Much appreciated

chills

Wow!

Love that!

Yes Vance

LOVE

How do we get a copy of this video?

That was powerful!

That video was awesome!!!!

Very Powerful!.Being reminded again of the anxious, stressful time we live in still brings tears to my eyes.

http://bit.ly/TextInChurchFreeOffer

WOW. Thanks.

We used this at Smithfield. It's great!

NEW

Impressions Unlimited: http://ImpressionsUnlimited.org/midnightoil/

Text in Church is awesome.

I believe and my heart tells me that God is doing a new thing and we now get to be fishermen of men going to the deep. Fishing in the deep where others don't go but we can!

Great questions!

nice microphone

Survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FLWBLDK

So thankful for this!

Thanks Estee!!!!

Yes, thank you soooo much!

Excellent presentation.! Lots of very helpful information. Thanks!

Free Online Tech conference: https://engageconference.church?fpr=mop

Optical Zoom is important :) Digital Zoom pixelates.

go to youtube and search for "video framing basics"

PTZ cameras can zoom optically very well from the back of the room.

She Leads Church: https://pro.churchcommunications.com/a/40220/KHmqyzp2

In addition to Facebook and YouTube simultaneously, we stream audio only to our webpage with an easy to use player

We learned that with our older church. We had to email our pastors written sermon to them and/or record the service and put on youtube then text them the link because they don't have to download anything just click the link.

Missional Score: http://bit.ly/MissionalScoreOffer

I love the idea of the Staggered Approach for in-person and online. I'm just afraid my older members who will be worshiping online for awhile would really miss all of the elements we are currently doing.

Ben! Miss you buddy

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FLWBLDK

It would be helpful to have all these websites and links posted or in an email. Thanks.

Whazzup Matt!! :-D

we include a chance to share feedback in our online connect forms that says “comments on streaming quality”

Facebook Sound Collection is great and approved by Facebook as they are offering it. Not a lot of Christian Music but great tracks overall. Free Music: https://www.facebook.com/sound/collection/

We have 45 homes in our charge that do not have computers / internet. We mail them a printed copy of the newsletter that includes the sermon. Internet connectivity is a challenge in our area.

Great job, Jason! Thank you!

great idea! Thank you!

Fantastic, Jason - VERY helpful!!

my congregations are so small that we've been able to deliver tactile things, like self-contained communion elements, or children's activities, to every home during the week prior to worship

Way to go Kory

I’ve said Amen more in this presentation than I have in 50 worship services. This has been a Communicators dream presentation.

If anyone needs help with using OBS I would be glad to help. Amazing software and not really hard to use

Thanks Don!

Hico- We have our main camera that we use for 90% of our shots in the sermon. Another option is in your notes letting the camera operator know of spots that you want to connect with online audience so that they can have a certain camera queued up

Good idea, Josh!

Thanks Josh!

:et’s pray for churches that need volunteers to make all this work!

Thanks Jason! Thanks Estee! God bless.

Rick-Yes. Especially when we’ve relied on one set of volunteers that are getting tired!

Info-packed presentation - thanks!

Thank you so much Jason! Excellent webinar.

Thank you so much Jason! Really excellent! Very useful!

Yes, thank you so much!

Again thank you Jason! Very helpful insights

Great help! Great ideas!

The ctc communications team is available to counsel and advise on tech and production. Contact your district or email bradleyalexander@ctcumc.org or dustinkaps@ctcumc.org or vancemorton@ctcumc.org for help

Thanks, Jason!

Thank you Jason!

Great job, Jason! Thanks CTC!

Great information. Thanks Jason.

We hired an intern to help with tech at $50 per week. Best investment ever

Thanks Jason and Estee.

Thank you for this. It has been very helpful.

yes thank you so much!

Thank you for a good learning eent

Thanks Jason and Estee! This was helpful.

Thank you so much. Great webinar

Thank you so much for today!

Great info. Thanks !!!

Thank you Estee and Sharon

Thank you, BOM, for caring for our clergy.

Thank you, Estee & Jason!

Thanks to everyone to created this opportunity!

Thank you Estee!

Laity?????

Yes Mary! Thank you!

Very helpful

Thanks, Jason! This has been great! Very helpful!

Thank you, Estee and Jason!

Thank you, Jason and Estee!

Thank you Estee, Sharon and Jason

Lots of great insights! Thank you! :)